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Public rejects e-tolls - Outa

2012-11-15 20:41

Johannesburg - Public meetings on Gauteng's e-tolls indicated the public was against the system, the Opposition To Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa) said on Thursday.

"Despite efforts by the department of transport to focus on discussing the proposed tariffs and exemptions at meetings, many expressed sheer anger at the lack of initial consultation," the organisation said in a statement.

Last month, the government and the SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) announced new tariffs for e-tolling the freeways.

The announcement, made on 26 October, marked the beginning of a 30-day public consultation process, after which Transport Minister Ben Martins would have a fortnight to "apply his mind, followed by another fortnight to gazette the tariffs.

The government should initially have been more open and accommodating in seeking public and business opinion, Outa said.

"Government should not be surprised by the uproar and backlash they are receiving from the public, who find it illogical to discuss tariffs they do not have confidence or support for in the first place."

There was a growing chorus and call by the public to simply not participate in e-tolls.

"We have been saying that the lack of public participation by the public in this irrational scheme will ultimately become Sanral's biggest hurdle and will make the system unworkable."

Comments
  • kim.buren - 2012-11-15 20:44

    Has Sanral not got the message yet? Do we have to s p e l l it out FFS

      jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-11-15 21:01

      Agreed Kim.

      guy.rice - 2012-11-15 21:23

      Our campaign for full disclosure on e-Toll continues. We presented the DOT with a petition of over 1,000 signatures at the DOT presentation in Sunninghill. Thank you! e-Tolling is not transparent and the public are unable to make any assessment until Sanral makes public the agreement with ETC. Sign at http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Freedom_of_access_to_information/ If you need wording to send to mphahlet@dot.gov.za Dear Sir, I wish to lodge my objection to e-Tolling: 1) SANRAL has spent a large amount of money advertising the registration process for e-Tolls but has spent very little on informing the public about where and when the public consultative processes would take place. In my opinion the pubic consultations are a sham and are too little too late. 2) I have no objection to paying for the upgrade to Gauteng roads. The method of collecting the money via e-Tolling is too expensive and the fuel levy should rather be used. 3) As a member of the public I would like to see the agreement with the Electronic Tolling Collection company made public. SANRAL committed on national television to make complete disclosure to COSATU and the DA. SANRAL handed over some of the contracts to COSATU only and had blanked out much of the information. As a member of the public, I cannot make an informed decision around the fairness of e-Tolling as SANRAL has not been transparent and has not communicated all relevant information on the matter to the public.

      christopher.shining - 2012-11-15 21:58

      They going to spend all the etolling money on admin/lawyers/letters/faxes/phone calls trying to get payment out of us, which they won't.How I should have studied law! Stop stealing our hard earened money you wank*rs.

      NickvanGraan - 2012-11-15 22:05

      The point of these public hearings was not to hear your point of view. That is irrelevant. It was to just "tick the public hearing box" that is required by law in order that they can move on and get the show on the road, so to speak.

      Mpotsiseng - 2012-11-16 09:22

      @Kim... They don't get it.. we don't want to be consulted or lower price. WE DONT WANT e-toll PERIOD!!!!!! I don't know why it's not sinking in

      KennySven - 2012-11-21 02:15

      If cANCer stopped the corruption/theft e-tolls would not be required

  • africanwolf - 2012-11-15 20:55

    Referendum now... it will be 100% NO E-TOLLS

  • ndzalamah - 2012-11-15 20:56

    Stealing tax is not good enough for u nee?

  • jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-11-15 20:56

    We out number them by millions. They need to see and feel its not going to happen.

  • John - 2012-11-15 21:02

    Stuff SANRAL and their corrupt cronies!

  • Jack - 2012-11-15 21:03

    The Rubicon has been crossed. People are VERY angry. Government has been seen to abuse its own population, willfully, brazenly, arrogantly with no respect for the law. Democracy lies in ruins...Something is going to break.

  • davlyn.brider - 2012-11-15 21:05

    It's to late now for discussion. The corrupt parlimentarians have recieved there million rand kick backs. The company has paid it's bribes to steal and pilfer on behalf of the great European union, who profited in the glorious days of so called white domination. Now "Joe idiot" the public must pay his dues. These tolls are going ahead and nothing is going to stop it. "A"lways "N"o "C"ompromise, who cares what the public thinks. Majority rules we are safe and no one can touch us.

  • ray.syst - 2012-11-15 21:08

    What kind of democracy do we have when so few disregard and tell so many what to do - the so many that voted the so few into positions of national leadership and public service?

      tw2066 - 2012-11-16 06:38

      We dont have a democracy. The ANC leadership vote system, BBBEE, AA, and Land Reform saw to that years ago.

  • lekgwakgwa.mohlatlole - 2012-11-15 21:39

    Gauteng government milking the poor but i thank the have massage from community of Gauteng

  • Jackie White - 2012-11-15 21:46

    As if the etolls isnt enough now they putting a levy on every new tyre you have fitted wtf!!!

      gesigboekie - 2012-11-16 00:12

      I thought this was an April fools' joke..only, it wasn't freakin' April! as far as I'm concerned, I pay my tax so my dues are paid, done and dusted. They won't get a cent from me for their 'jungle gyms'.

  • slikhethe33 - 2012-11-15 21:57

    I m not going to pay period.

  • Danie Gerber - 2012-11-15 22:04

    I refuse to pay for their stupid mistake. What they going to do if we dont pay for e-tag?

      willem.v.hoven - 2012-11-15 22:14

      probably bring back the death penalty????

  • jimi.vanderwesthuizen - 2012-11-15 22:06

    F.R.O Sanral

  • breinlekkasie.dodelikegif - 2012-11-16 06:40

    Strip the toll gates and sell the parts back to Sanral. Why should the public pay to use "public" roads if one can make money of it.

  • tw2066 - 2012-11-16 06:40

    Hey, didnt SCAMRAL go on nad on about how much money they would loose and the sky would fall in if they didnt start charging a few months ago? Well that didnt happen so its clear that SCAMRAL are bulls#1tters, just like the government they represent.

  • brionyl.french - 2012-11-16 07:02

    Of course yes, its daylight robbery and stinks of corruption!!! We are trying to be law abiding citezens in a gang country

  • warwick.railton.7 - 2012-11-16 07:04

    Get knotted sanral, we will never be tagged or gagged, you fail you lying scumbags. It's time to burn these structures down.

  • ken.koen - 2012-11-16 08:55

    The public have not rejected e-tolling, a hand full of ill mannered, badly behaved people at a couple of meetings have. 500 000 people have actively agreed by purchasing tags. The debt is not going to go away, and the sooner we start paying it the better. Half of the complaining sheep, probably never use the highway anyway or if they do, very seldom. And as for the roads, the R21 in particular, its an absolute pleasure to travel on.

      alan.jerrold - 2012-11-16 10:26

      Ken, you obviously work for Scamral. Tell me, is it OK for a company like Scamral to go ahead and spend a significant propoprtion of SA's budget - TWENTY ONE BILLION RANDS - with virtually no prior consultation? For the deal to be done with an overseas company formerly involved with the proven corrupt Armsgate scandal? For massive collection costs to be incurred when a simple rise in petrol levy would accomplish the same, with minimal chance of ANC theft? If you agree, then I am sorry for you my friend. You think corruption and maladministration is fine.

      my10cent - 2012-11-21 07:29

      @ken.koen, i agree with you 100%. Most idiots complaining are the same ones who complain about high fuel prices, yet they continue speeding - save on your fuel bill and you will have enough to pay for the tolls!!!

  • janet.tatalias - 2012-11-16 09:53

    Again if you feel strongly about this issue support OUTA. Go to their website and make a contribution. The more individuals who contribute the more OUTA can show that the public is with them. The court case takes place 26th Nov.Don't just complain do something.www.outa.co.za

  • davesheer - 2012-11-23 00:46

    ANC = ALL THE NATIONA CRIMINALS

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