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R8 crash probe escalated

2013-01-16 14:39

Johannesburg - The investigation into the crash of an Audi R8, in which the driver and a police officer were killed, has been escalated to a provincial level, the police said on Wednesday.

This comes after reports that the docket concerning the case had gone missing, Eyewitness News reported.

The Independent Police Investigative Directorate is also investigating but has apparently battled to obtain the case docket.

The driver of the supercar and a Sandton police officer who was with him were killed when the car crashed in Oxford Road last week.

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  • typersa.baddy - 2013-01-16 14:43

    Typical SA police service. Something in that docket that you do not want the public to know about mr police officer sir? Scaley basterds!!

      derek.francois.3 - 2013-01-16 14:50

      And another docket goes missing exposing gross negligence of the S.A.P..........obviously trying to protect one of their own...............

      kalabafazi - 2013-01-16 14:53

      I have been away so I haven't read all the articles on this story. Has there been any mention of who the driver of the Audi was? It is most likely some well connected politician with numerous skeletons on the back seat. (I know the R8 only has two seats, before someone chooses to point it out:))

      johnny.better.12 - 2013-01-16 14:58

      @kalabafazi - No, that is just one of the very mysterious parts of this case.

      jono.qmann - 2013-01-16 14:59

      pretty sure driver and cop cut a deal and the cop told him to loose the other cop?!

      elgh.elgh - 2013-01-16 15:24

      This goverment/police can not even run a bath, no they want to do a probe. It's easy, cop corrupt and driver windgat, case solved.

      preshen.govender.12382 - 2013-01-17 08:14

      Docket are like connies at JZ house they always go missing

      jaco.skalkwyk.3 - 2013-01-17 08:49

      Didn't the cops learn from the Bees Roux incident? Its not safe to blackmail civilians anymore... Another bad cop got hit by kharma.

      marni.van.emmenis - 2013-01-17 10:04

      @kalabafazi, the article regarding this accident that was posted on Thursday read: "Motorist Areff Haffejee and a police officer were killed when Haffajee's Audi R8 hit a tree on Thursday." There was an article in the Sunday Times with comment from his wife - he wasn't a "well connected politician". A policeman is killed whilst in a civilian vehicle at 4am in the morning after which the docket regarding the incident disappears, and we are questioning whether the civilian is shady? No, my friend. We should be concerned about those who promised to serve and protect...

      janice.mcmaster.92 - 2013-01-17 11:36

      This is beyond hysterical!!! The dockets gone missing???!!!

      tracy.musto.7 - 2013-01-17 13:30

      As per eBlockWatch - The Independent Police Investigative Directorate says it has been unable to locate the police docket relating to the car crash that claimed the life of a policeman and a businessman during the early hours of Thursday on Oxford Road, Johannesburg . The police insist that the docket is being handled by a specialised provincial police investigative unit and is under lock and key - but the directorate, the police watchdog, says it has been unable to locate it. The directorate investigates high-profile crimes committed by the police, such as corruption. Its spokesman, Moses Dlamini, said: "Up to today we have not been given the docket. We have made inquiries but have not received it. We don't know where it is." The docket contains details of the mysterious car crash that killed Constable Goodman Lubisi and businessman Areff Haffejee. They were killed when Haffejee lost control of his Audi R8 supercar and crashed into a lamppost and a wall in Oxford Road. At the time, police claimed that Haffejee had tried to escape officers who had found dagga in his car when they stopped him at a roadblock in Sandton, northern Johannesburg. They allege that Haffejee, pursued by Lubisi's partner in a police van, crashed his car during a high-speed chase. But the police's version of events has been rubbished by witnesses, police officers close to the investigation and investigative directorate detectives.

      tracy.musto.7 - 2013-01-17 13:31

      Cont.... The police have failed to explain: Why Lubisi did not use his service pistol to force Haffejee to stop his car; Why the policemen did not call for backup; Why Lubisi's colleagues at the crash scene waited nearly 10 minutes before calling for ambulances; Why the police van's vehicle monitoring device shows that the vehicle was not speeding, braking hard or rapidly cornering, as it would in a high-speed chase; What happened to the dagga said to have been found in Haffejee's car; Why there was a delay in notifying the investigative directorate about the crash; and Why the statement of witness Selaelo Mannya, who was driving alongside the police van and the Audi, had not been taken. The police have yet to name a third policeman involved, who was travelling in the police van. An IPID investigator said there were "major" discrepancies between the police's version of events and what other evidence suggested. "There is no technical evidence to support the theory of a chase. If there was [a chase], why was the police van driving slowly - in some parts of the 'chase' no faster than 40km/h," the investigator said. "If Haffejee was not trying to get away, we need to know why the policeman was in his car. We need to know why it took so long for the police to contact the IPID." He said the investigation would look into the policemen's service records. "So far we have not been able to question the other policemen as they are on sick leave."

      tracy.musto.7 - 2013-01-17 13:34

      Cont further....Mannya said claims by the police that they were chasing Haffejee were rubbish. "When I stopped at a traffic light both the Audi and the police stopped next to me. Why would they do this if they were chasing?" Mannya said that though he had given the police all his contact details, he had not been asked to provide a statement. "What I saw happening was highly suspicious . those policemen were not chasing that car . they were not in a hurry to phone for help." Police spokesman Brigadier Neville Malila said the docket was not lost. "It is with the provincial investigative unit, which is tasked to investigate high-profile crimes," he said. "They are investigating this incident because one of our own died and because of the allegations.

  • pnondabula - 2013-01-16 14:45

    The docket missing so soon. Mzansi for sure.

      zip.reeper - 2013-01-16 16:44

      communist and criminal government. a cop gets killed and it is not even a national matter immediately? the cop in the car who survived should be cross-examined at the inquest, surely? and why has he not been presented to the media for a media conference?

  • andrew.arde - 2013-01-16 14:46

    "This comes after reports that the docket concerning the case had gone missing, Eyewitness News reported." Now there's a HUGE surprise........

  • james.malone.9066 - 2013-01-16 14:46

    Of course the docket went missing, isn't that how the cops always end investigations?

      Wayne - 2013-01-16 14:58

      Wahahahahahahah, now that was a good laugh, High Five James!

  • jackie.m.dickson - 2013-01-16 14:48

    How strange that such a suspicious case gets its file lost? Do they honestly think we are morons? There are very obvious lies being told by the police etc. Nothing makes any sense other than that it was a joy ride, or an escort to an ATM to collect a bribe! No ways was a cop sitting in a car he was searching with the driver still in the car. Let this be the first incident where the public dont give up until we hear the truth. The country cannot survive corruption.

      jackie.m.dickson - 2013-01-16 16:05

      We have to keep pushing this. Its the only way that we can turn this corruption around. The government sure as hell wont keep any story alive that shows them up. Its up to us as normal citizens to get together & make some noise. No more apathy. Including Juju etc.

  • marcus.vermaak - 2013-01-16 14:51

    Just a question, is it police protocol to enter a car with the driver? If so, why? Why did he get in the car in the first place?

      Sharon - 2013-01-16 15:11

      No. I was a Reservist for 10 years, and if they did it by the book, one would get the driver out of the car and stay with him, and the other cop would do the search. There are lots of weird things going on with this case.

      garth.cruickshank.3 - 2013-01-16 15:25

      The driver and the cop were in cahoots. With such an expensive car, expect drugs and drug money to be involved here

      jackie.m.dickson - 2013-01-16 16:00

      Exactly! And these procedures / rules are for the safety of the cop. Why would a cop ignore the rule & risk his life....ok well he died from a different than expected risk :) There is definitely a cover up here.

      sandra.j.rennie - 2013-01-17 13:15

      Because for starters the cop was in on the deal ! He was obviously getting his money that was owed to him !

  • shafique.patel - 2013-01-16 14:56

    Lets act surprised shall we.

  • heini.botes - 2013-01-16 15:07

    Check the covering ups starting right ...about...now!

  • gregory.jurgens - 2013-01-16 15:07

    The stench of corruption is so strong makes me want to puke.

  • dave.barnett.505 - 2013-01-16 15:10

    why is the docket system still in use, electronic reporting should be implemented, that way information can not be lost.

      typersa.baddy - 2013-01-16 15:24

      They will arrange for the server that stores this data to go "missing". Will always find a way to be corrupt

  • givenvon.baloyi - 2013-01-16 15:15

    The docket will resurface after an insurance payout for the driver and possible pension payout for the joyrider

  • veldt66 - 2013-01-16 15:15

    This was not just a crash, a policeman entered my new A4 on the 25th of Dec in Johannesburg. I can't go into details my comment will deleted.

      tersia.louw.12 - 2013-01-17 16:28

      So what if it's deleted? Some people WILL see it.

  • jus.manning - 2013-01-16 15:17

    It's pretty simple what happened... the cop was sitting in the car, sweating the driver for a bribe, planting the drugs on him.. driver panic and races off, killing them both... The last little piggy is stressing and has the docket destroyed.. we know you swine’s too well.. we are tired of your extortion. How do I know all of this??? Because you did the same thing to one of my friends.

  • richard.zanner - 2013-01-16 15:18

    This is a scam re the Policeman in the car. Witnesses say he was sitting in car relaxed with elbow out window. Now docket is missing. Another cover-up. I do not believe the drug story for one moment or certainly not that he was in car looking for drugs.

      zaid.suleman.14 - 2013-01-18 00:01

      I agree. All he wanted was a joyride, one which went pretty pear shaped. That's my 2c. Dunno what you guys make of it.

  • sam.karabo - 2013-01-16 15:18

    Damnit briberry went wrong

  • atta.asare - 2013-01-16 15:20

    joy ride on their way to the atm gone horrible wrong..... the truth will eventually come out....

      brian.connell.18 - 2013-01-16 15:48

      Oh I don't think so ..... it'll will simply disappear, never to be seen or heard from again. Welcome to Africa.

  • nigel.olifaunt - 2013-01-16 15:23

    Corrupt SA

  • Eterni80 - 2013-01-16 15:26

    the deeper they dig, the more 'dirt' they'll find..

  • karl.vanrooyen - 2013-01-16 15:26

    Moral of the story .. Don't trust a south African cop .

  • ohbizz.chabata - 2013-01-16 15:36

    So SAPS doesnt keep soft copies of dockets? In other countries soft copies have long ended the problems of disappearing dockets in possession of the police, prosecution or even the court. Easy solutions

  • matt.ward.14203 - 2013-01-16 15:45

    A Docket Goes Missing . . . Seriously . . Why are Dockets not scanned into a police database . . It can't be that difficult to implement ! ! !

      sibusiso.s.skosana.7 - 2013-01-16 16:39

      I work for state information technology agency. Surprisingly we do have that technology, dockets are scaned and saved into the database. This bull

      sibusiso.s.skosana.7 - 2013-01-16 16:39

      I work for state information technology agency. Surprisingly we do have that technology, dockets are scaned and saved into the database. This bull

      sibusiso.s.skosana.7 - 2013-01-16 16:39

      I work for state information technology agency. Surprisingly we do have that technology, dockets are scaned and saved into the database. This bull

  • flysouth - 2013-01-16 15:46

    This is most likely a case of extortion or demanding-money-with-menaces by the cops against the Audi owner. Hugely expensive car, the owner becomes a juicy target for eliciting bribes/payment under duress. The question to be asked of course is how high up the rotten ladder of the SAPS does this go - who shares in the spoils, there will be many taking their cut from the SAPS' main business these days? It is time to simply disband the criminal enterprise that SAPS has become - yes, shut it down! Then immediately set about rapidly re-hiring those who can be checked out thoroughly and who have nothing - absolutely nothing on record or even suspected - against them. On that nucleus of clean officers a new SAPS can be built. What about crime while this months-long process is handled - well what difference will it make? None whatever - and we would barely notice their absence, so useless in fighting crime has SAPS become.

  • gillian.louw2 - 2013-01-16 15:53

    I smell a rat and a fish here

  • arthur.salvado - 2013-01-16 15:55

    As expected. I'm not surprised. In fact I did predicted and it doesn't take a rocker scientist.

  • TheReal.EuanB - 2013-01-16 16:03

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

  • donald.perumal - 2013-01-16 16:37

    Hi All The public should demand that that particular police station be closed and all police officers transferred.The station is more of a menace than a service;close it down! A docket can't go missing just like that!

      Given Chauke - 2013-01-16 17:47

      dont write what u dont know, 1st go on the details of what cause the accident,why the police was inside the car than commenting rubbish

  • teaspooman - 2013-01-16 17:01

    Things went wrong from the robots. The R8 driver and the policeman were joyriding and the other two policemen were following behind. The driver launched that monster at high speed showing the police how it moves. The road curves to the left and he couldn't negotiate to avoid the island were the road curves to the left and he went over it. The impact indicates that he drove that thing at a very high speed. Layman investigation results.

      Joel Lutendo Ndadza - 2013-01-16 17:31

      My point exactly,and the bottom line is that they were friends...

  • adrienne.bateceruti - 2013-01-16 17:31

    This smacks of a hidden agenda of some sort - corrupt police perhaps?

  • godesha - 2013-01-16 18:40

    A missing docket! How convenient. I really hope the truth comes out, one way or another.

  • augusto.lugoboni - 2013-01-16 18:53

    SURPRISE!!! Not!

  • MJ.Maremane - 2013-01-16 18:54

    Guys the is 1 thing we all no we live in south africa a country of corruption so the is no such thing of a missing docket they no verey well where it is.

  • alan.ingram.355 - 2013-01-16 19:45

    SAPS like their bosses the ANC are the scum of the Earth !

  • monty.pulumo - 2013-01-16 20:55

    Ag nee wena! Docket so vinnig verloor?? Lord have mercy!! popcorn anyone??

      Erna - 2013-01-17 00:45

      They're not even discrete abov it any more.

  • dee.c.kidson - 2013-01-16 22:27

    I smell a big rat!!

  • janine.williams.5473 - 2013-01-16 23:53

    Wonder how much was paid for docket to go missing. We can trust no one in this country! It will come full circle, and when it does, I feel sorry for our justice system! Karma is a B-----. Maybe the R8 gentlemen's wive must take matters in her own hands, and get someone like Mike Bolhuis to investigate. The truth always come out, by then they will have dug such a deep whole for them self, there will be no going back

      Erna - 2013-01-17 00:43

      I think I read somewhere that there is a private investigator involved.

      janine.williams.5473 - 2013-01-17 00:53

      Hopefully an honest 1?! Someone who not hard up for money

  • janine.williams.5473 - 2013-01-17 00:54

    The going rate for a missing docket starts at R2500-00

  • christiana.vespucci - 2013-01-17 08:53

    I hate to say this. But I kind of feel more for the driver of the Audi. I doubt there was "marijuana/dagga" that they claim the victim had. This is maybe the story. The cops saw the nice flashy car and said to each other. "chief, we hitting the jackpot with this one". So the pulled him over. And saw maybe the guy didn't pay one or two of his fine. And they saw a great oppurtunity to exploit the situation. "sorry sir, er, we going to have to impound your car, cause you have outstanding traffic fines" the officer says. The driver than replies "okay, let me call My lawyer". "no no sir. You see we have been here all day. Sitting under the sun (tree). And our stomachs are empty. Maybe some Kentucky will get you to keep your car". the officer replies hastedly. "okay, I'll be glad to give you some cash. But I'll have to draw the money" the driver tells the officer. "O okay, we can drive now. And get some money. Me and you. Than you show me how fast this car can go". the officer tells the driver. The offer shouts out to his colleagues to follow. And so the accident happened either because the driver could not handle the speed of the car. Or instead of the officer didn't say anything about the joyride. But just said he'll go with to the ATM. And in the spur of the moment the driver thought of a plan of action. To speed, in hope it will catch people's attention. And at the same time scar the living daylight out of the officer.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2013-01-17 08:59

      Actually the story starts off as "Can I see you license?" and as you take out your license eyes look into the wallet. Then the question: "Do you have something for me" or if there is cash "Is that for me?" and then the rest of the story.

      christiana.vespucci - 2013-01-17 11:57

      Lol koos. I totally forgot that the beginning of the story starts with the asking for the license. And ends with the ATM. But I would like for the family of the driver to come forward and clear his name. Cause this Marijuana story sound like a huge lie to cover up their corrupt doings. So they try and make the driver look more corrupt. Now that he can't defend himself.

  • conquergp33 - 2013-01-17 08:56

    @toby.strong.9 Brilliant idea mate, the banking sektor and most of government has gone with paperless systems why not the police, scanners should be placed at the front desk so you as an individual can see the documents being scanned and confirm they are logged on the system with a digital signature or thumbprint scan.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2013-01-17 09:00

      Aaaa but that would mean that someone could be held accountable or responsible for those records and we would not want that.

      allan.rosenberg.752 - 2013-01-17 12:01

      Scanners and computers!!!! Ever heard the words.... The system is down

  • Blemz - 2013-01-17 09:17

    Conveniently "Missing"......How obvious that there is something they hiding. So typical of SA's untrustworthy cops. Why dont they interogate the cop that was behind the R8 in the cop van.....Surely he s the only witness to speak. Take him for hypnosis and make him take it out.

  • riad.mahomed - 2013-01-17 09:57

    Considering that this has become such a publicized case, I must say it must have taken one brazen individual to lose this docket; you don’t suppose David Blaine was in the country doing an act at the police station that held this docket? The other thing that I’m still trying to wrap my thought around, if this was a bribe that the cop was after, of course the ATM drive would make sense but if you or I were in that situation, to drive with the cop to an ATM to withdraw bribe money, why pass Rosebank that have so many ATM’s? Mind boggling if you ask me .

  • dave.ducker.3 - 2013-01-17 10:36

    the stench is getting stronger and stronger in this case going to be interesting where it ends up!

  • allan.rosenberg.752 - 2013-01-17 12:08

    Relax Max, they were all on their way to the ATM machine with a drunk driver. Nothing more to it

      sandra.j.rennie - 2013-01-17 13:32

      allen.rosenberg.752 - that sounds quite plausible actually. More than likely !

  • gladness - 2013-01-17 13:12

    Docket missing ?? That is strange - does it happen often.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2013-01-17 15:24

      Maybe they smoked it with the evidence...

  • Thimna - 2013-01-17 13:26

    Layita Yesu!!

  • vaughnvdm - 2013-01-17 13:36

    Can't believe in a world with the technology we have they haven't moved to an electronic form which could be called up at any point from any police station. In fact maybe they should move forward to engraving on stone, which are harder to steal due to the weight.

  • thaluki.malema - 2013-01-17 13:44

    Corrupt cops made the docket "gone missing"

  • sunshiny.day.1447 - 2013-01-17 14:55

    Polygraph the other cop, put him under oath and get a proper statement as to how the accident REALLY happened. He can thank his lucky stars no one else was injured, the least he can do is actually be honest.

  • Stu.Hellfire - 2013-01-18 07:26

    Wow, the docket went missing, so shocking!

  • maitseo.kola - 2013-01-18 08:52

    The corruption in this country is amazing.....

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