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Ramaphosa urges crowd to show restraint

2013-12-10 13:30

Johannesburg - ANC deputy president Cyril Ramaphosa urged the crowd to show restraint and be disciplined during the memorial for former president Nelson Mandela at the FNB Stadium on Tuesday.

"We should show the same level of discipline as Madiba exuded," Ramaphosa said.

This was after the crowd booed President Jacob Zuma when his image appeared on the big screen.

US President Barack Obama had just received a rousing cheer.

Tributes by family members and Mandela's friends were interrupted by the crowd's cheers.

Crowd vocal

The crowd made no secret of its sentiments as images of politicians and others were shown on the big screen.

Every time Zuma's image was shown, he was booed. The crowd jeered even when Zuma was shown appeared during a tribute by Mandela family friend and struggle hero Andrew Mlangeni.

During the welcome address by ANC deputy president Cyril Ramaphosa, the crowd cheered Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe and former presidents FW De Klerk and Thabo Mbeki, but when they saw Zuma, a sustained boo echoed across the calabash-shaped stadium.

People watching the service on a big screen in Dobsonville, Soweto, also jeered when Zuma appeared.

Mandela's widow Graca Machel and his ex-wife Winnie Madikizela-Mandela were both loudly cheered each time they were shown on screen, as was former president Thabo Mbeki.

An image of a group wearing red Economic Freedom Fighters' berets prompted the crowd to boo.

As the rain came down in Soweto, people huddled under umbrellas trying to keep dry.

- Share your thoughts and photos of the Mandela memorial service

Friends, colleagues, comrades and family of Nelson Mandela are invited to share their memories and tributes, and to light a candle for him, on his profile at Remembered.co.za.

Comments
  • Lloyd Venske - 2013-12-10 13:34

    Well inappropriate, the voice of the people is indicative of their displeasure. Bye ANC thanks for nothing.

      Mike Heyns - 2013-12-10 13:42

      This event is seen by many as an anc arranged congregation. I just wonder how many were disappointed with the lack of T-shirts and food parcels?

      Franky Mark - 2013-12-10 14:02

      Now the dilemma - they love the ANC but hate Zuma. If they vote ANC we are stuck with that thieving Gupta lover. If they vote for anyone else it will most probably the halfwit effies.

      Eric Moneyvalu - 2013-12-10 14:10

      The People have spoken

      Marina Dc - 2013-12-10 14:12

      The people expressed their right to free expression, that which Mandela also fought for. It is time the government accept that the people are tired of their lies and they are giving voice to the standards of Mandela. Did the megalomaniac think Mandela s funeral will bring him honour? You can not name his name in the same sentence as Mandela, he has disgraced us and he got what he deserved.

      Gerald Nchabeleng - 2013-12-10 15:17

      Probably only you Mr Heyns, seeing as people didn't brave the weather to goto a cafeteria but to pay last respects to an African hero

      Mike Heyns - 2013-12-10 17:27

      Well Mr. Nchabeleng , I suppose the headline of: "Mandela mourners fight over food" an hour later does not assist in your statement?

      Jeremy Forbes - 2013-12-10 22:01

      This may well be the maturing of our democracy, having expressed their love and loyalty to Madiba, the crowd have refused to transfer this to our disreputable leader and his cronies.

  • Kevin Koekemoer - 2013-12-10 13:34

    Well that's what happens when you screw your country over

      Mike Heyns - 2013-12-10 13:39

      So they are not as stupid as what you thought?

      Jeremy Forbes - 2013-12-10 14:06

      Sadly, he won't go until he has immunity from prosecution, a president's pension for life including the costs of all his wives plus Nkandla as his retirement home. Sounds like a good deal to get rid of the corrupter in chief.

      Guy Mullins - 2013-12-10 14:07

      We will only know quite how stupid they are when we see whether they still vote for the person they dislike.

      Missmizz Sabath - 2013-12-10 14:09

      @ Mike, according to your 4 thumbs down, clearly there are at least 4 stupid people on this forum.

      Mike Heyns - 2013-12-10 14:51

      @Missmizz Sabath: LOL! Take the thumbs down by the thumbs up and see the voting anc percentage for next year!!??

      Seanred - 2013-12-10 16:05

      and AGAIN somebody has to help zuma out.

  • Gynormous Dixie - 2013-12-10 13:37

    Welocme to Africa. Where good manners and respect are non-existant.

      Joe Soapie - 2013-12-10 13:54

      Perhaps he should start being a real president then.

      Phillys Winterbottom - 2013-12-10 14:11

      at what other forum would you like the rank & file of this party to express their disgust with this corrupt lecher and thief?The poorest of the poor in SA have been profoundly affected by this dolt's uselessness during his term in office.

      MastersVoice - 2013-12-10 14:11

      Gynormous - are you referring to Zuma or the crowd?

      Marina Dc - 2013-12-10 14:48

      Yes, starting by some in positions of leadership. What do you expect? Get those out and you will see how this country will get back their manners and respect those that are deserving of them. Did he for one minute think about asking the people s permission to enrich himself. No, he disrespected a nation and trembled on the legacy of Mandela. How can you be respectful in the face of that. If the people pronounce their voices, they are disrespectful and must just keep quiet because his excellency is up there. When he steals, is that respectful and good manners? Get your priorities right! Ire! Let the people speak!!!!!!!

  • Nkosana Nks Buthelezi - 2013-12-10 13:38

    i foresee trouble,he musnt say his speech

      Dave Elmore - 2013-12-10 13:44

      Its too late now, but I also see trouble

      Andrew Terr - 2013-12-10 13:44

      He must give it.I think he is dreading that moment.Then again he is such a numb nut he won't care.

      MastersVoice - 2013-12-10 14:14

      I don't think he'll notice the booing, mainly because he is reading his speech and we all know reading is not really his thing, so he'll be concentrating very hard on what is written.

      Marina Dc - 2013-12-10 15:11

      I am sure while the president of India was speaking they have deployed police amongst the crowd to oppress once again the people s voice. Well there is a tomorrow and the people are taking that long walk to freedom.

      Marina Dc - 2013-12-10 16:34

      This funeral has had exactly the opposite effect of what they expected. What a shame he has put his party and the country through! Now they know the people will use their voice. There are strong winds of change on the horizon, Madiba s magic is still with us. Thank you Madiba, Thank you!

  • Jaap du Preez - 2013-12-10 13:38

    AT LAST !!!! the People have had ENOUGH of this CRIMINAL.

  • CraigJoseph - 2013-12-10 13:40

    Why should the crowd show restraint when they can clearly see the irony of letting Zuma pay respects to Mandela, when he is very much aware that almost everything he has done since taking presidency has been destroying much of Mandela's work and making a mockery of Mandela's sacrifice.

      Tshegofatso Kekana - 2013-12-10 14:05

      The timing is wrong...bt I thing the message actually went through jacob zuma should just step down!!!

  • duncan.chauke.7 - 2013-12-10 13:44

    This is the voice of the voiceless

      Gerhard Lombard - 2013-12-10 13:58

      You hit the nail on the head, very profound statement.

  • Thandeka Cele - 2013-12-10 13:45

    News24 Ramaphosa asked for discipline after Mr Mlangeni and Thanduxolo Mandela spoke, they were both booed, then the camera zoomed into Obama: cheers......then Zuma:booooo

  • Sbu J Ngcobo - 2013-12-10 13:57

    i think time 4 president zuma to resign as president of the republic of south africa !!

      John Stoltz - 2013-12-10 14:33

      Sbu that will be the honourable to do, rather then be recalled by the ANC NEC ! But then is he honourable ??

  • Deon Lemmer - 2013-12-10 14:01

    Bwhahahahahaha, mooi so. The people have spoken. Dis net jammer dat hulle steeds hulle kruisies trek langs President Nkandla

  • Mellissa Smith - 2013-12-10 14:06

    They said that the 2 December will be known as the day the Government stopped listening to their People, 10 December will not only be known as the day a great hero was remembered and honored but also as the day Zuma(anc) heard it's People.....Loud and clear...

  • Dave Ueckermann - 2013-12-10 14:06

    haa haa. Well if that isnt enough ammo for you to digest that you are not wanted prez zuma.goodby time to go

  • Missmizz Sabath - 2013-12-10 14:07

    Cyril, don't try and stop the people voicing their opinions about this hideous ANC and EFF, let the rest of this world know what an abomination the ANC has become!

  • Lemako Lemako - 2013-12-10 14:16

    I really disagree with those who booed the President at this occasion here we need to show respect to Madiba's family n Madiba this is not the platform to show our dissatisfactions about any person we miss the point.

      Theuns Jacobs - 2013-12-10 14:20

      @lemako...even wondered why madiba passed away in the same week as the e-tolls gone live, or when the nation asked for zuma to be fired.. he asked the family to switch the machines off to divert attention from him. An you want to show some respect for zuma, NEVER!!! BOOOOO Zuma showerhead!!

      Helen Grobbelaar - 2013-12-10 14:24

      And when was the nation ever going to get an opportunity to voice their disdain for this savage, corrupt thief. Zuma had to see and hear how his "sujects" feel about him. I think Mandela's memorial service was the perfect platform for the nation to speak....and in doing so, it has not disrespected Madiba in any way, but exposed a fool of the ANC. You can't hide this one ANC!!!! Zuma doesn't deserve to be afforded the opportunity to even mention the name of a legend like Mandela, because he has systematically and without any regard for the poor and loyal people of South Africa, torn down every good thing that Mandela and the ANC fought so hard to achieve

      LizK - 2013-12-10 14:35

      I actually feel that this is the perfect opportunity for South Africans to show Zuma how we really feel about him. Madiba used every opportunity to display his satisfaction with, and oppose, the then-current government. So should we.

      Gail Hayes-Bean - 2013-12-10 16:04

      I seem to remember there were a great many calls for Mbeki to be recalled from probably the same people that are now booing for Zuma. Beware who and what you ask for because I doubt Helen will ever be allowed to show what the DA could do and that rather sadly leaves us with Julius. Given a choice between Malema and Zuma I'd prefer the lover to the fighter. Kgalema seems sadly destined to be always the bridesmaid but never the bride. Ramaphosa has also lost favour due to Marikana so who do we have left willing to step into the kitchen of Presidency? It is an unenviable task.

      Seanred - 2013-12-10 16:13

      Madiba was getting back at zuma, hahahahahahahaha clap clap.

      Aslam Parker - 2013-12-10 17:53

      I agree that the timing of showing our displeasure was not ideal as the day was dedicated to the remembering the great man. I however support the crowds actions as the ANC, government and country needed to express its displeasure in order to effect change (The ANC and government has proved very effective at ignoring the people). I also believe that the Mandela family feels the support and love of the entire nation through the constant vigils throughout the country.

  • Theuns Jacobs - 2013-12-10 14:16

    AWSOME....now the whole world can see what of an idiot selfish bastard we've got, and he calls himself president!!

      Mthandazo Mk Nkiwane - 2013-12-10 15:08

      nt a presindent in n24 bt a presindet of s africa.

  • George Williams - 2013-12-10 14:20

    Not the right time but the people are speaking.

      John Smith - 2013-12-10 15:40

      Compared to what they are saying goodbye too - it's the perfect time to let Zuma know he is NOT what is expected, and I don't think Mandela would mind.

  • Winifred Watson - 2013-12-10 14:20

    You reap what you sow......now Zuma understands the people are gatvol of him, maybe she should go and fall on his sword. He was hoping to brainwash the people so that they would be faithful to the memory of Mandela and vote ANC. People are agry, they were hijacked along the road to freedom and bought with promises and they have another corrupt hijacker in waiting that is no better than the corrupt Zuma. Better the people keep to Mandela's road, go it alone and make something of yourselves, get a good education and do it for yourself, do it for Mandela do it in peace like the big man wanted. Dont take the short cut, look where you are now, the king has his Nkandla while many have shacks and some not even that. While his family are warm safe and secure, even his cattle are better protected than the people. Who really stays at Nkandla, seems no one is ever home, so how many homes to we pay for, ask yourself that.

  • Johan Schoeman - 2013-12-10 14:21

    If this is not a wake up call to the ANC to recall Jacob Zuma then i dont know. Better they recall him now and regain the lost ground the ANC has suffered at the hands of Jacob Zuma and his 40 ministers with the Nkndla and corruption tape scandal than loose ground in the upcoming election. I just trust that they will go further and not only remove him but charge him with the crimes that he has commited, try him and send him to prison where he belongs. I also hope that the state will then declare Nkandla forfeit to the state as it was built from the proceeds of criminal activity. Enough now!

  • Jake Phakoe - 2013-12-10 14:22

    I think people or the party who booed Mr Zuma shame on you,it is not all about ANC or President Zuma. Go back read your books or look back where South Africa & the Icon Nelson Mandela comes from. That is why we have the whole world in Means . You are disgrace minority. RIP TATA

      Aslam Parker - 2013-12-10 18:13

      I agree that the memorial is supposed to commemorate celebrate the life of the great man. I however feel that protecting his legacy is as important as remembering it. Is expressing our collective displeasure against the abuse of power not what Mr Mandela fourt for?

  • Pieter Gertenbach - 2013-12-10 14:24

    Slaan die spyker op sy (stort)kop!

  • Nthokolose Puleng Marope - 2013-12-10 14:27

    Its not the right place and time but I'm sure this is the wake up call for the Anc.

  • Rakesh Bugwandeen - 2013-12-10 14:28

    Cyril have to call the crowd to order again, how embarressing ...

  • King Koffi - 2013-12-10 14:29

    its better he face the masses,not only tv cameras where no one has a choice of expressing themselves.viva Madiba,the people are speaking with one voice to honour your principles.

  • Andrea Thompson - 2013-12-10 14:29

    I admire Ramaphosa's restraint that he is displaying at this difficult time.

  • John Stoltz - 2013-12-10 14:31

    Mr Prez, you can fool some people some time, but not all the people all the time ! Unfortunately you surrounded yourself with "yes men" who's luxury lifestyles now depend on you being there ! Cyril, maybe it is time for you to act, or go down with the captain of the ship !

  • marelize.pinto - 2013-12-10 14:32

    It is seriously embarrassing! The crowd are totally disrespectful! Never should have allowed vuvuzelas and other instruments in. Hang my head in shame!

      Andrea Thompson - 2013-12-10 14:41

      True, why were vuvuzela's allowed in? It's not a soccer match, it's not respectful at all.

      John Smith - 2013-12-10 15:41

      What did you expect.......... ?

  • Ben - 2013-12-10 14:35

    This whole Mandela scenario reminded a lot of people what a real leader is, and in turn put current leaders in a very contrasting light. Ouch...Speech should be interesting. hehe.

  • Pieter Van Zyl - 2013-12-10 14:37

    Cyril Ramaphosa you are making an ass of yourself and our nation speaking to adults as if they are small children , what are the rest of the world thinking about us . REMEMBER NEXT YEAR IS ELECTIONS GOOD LUCK.

      marelize.pinto - 2013-12-10 15:02

      At least they kept quiet when he treated them as children! Lol

  • Khuliso Mutsha - 2013-12-10 14:42

    I have been watching this live broadcast since 11am, the croud has been singing throughout and even while dignitaries are addressing the crowds, thats when Cyril called them to be silent, this forum and its journalists are telling lies...day light lies. Wow.

      Justice Shivambu - 2013-12-10 14:47

      no u are a liar, coz i'm @ stadium

      Makabongwe Ntinga - 2013-12-10 15:23

      justice u a a liar, all the cheers for Zuma. and remember the opposition parties are there. y would u find it strange when they boeid him

      Justice Shivambu - 2013-12-10 15:58

      I'm @ de stadium, even the ANC members are the 1 who doing this more than other people, and after Obama speech thousands of people leave the stadium.

  • Nhlanhla Leonard - 2013-12-10 14:44

    The people are speaking, they're tired of all this dictatorship# that's why they booed him

  • rory - 2013-12-10 15:01

    What a farce they praise Mr Mandela for his leadership knowing that they the current anc has been destroying all the good he has done over the years, it was music to the ears to listen to the booing of this man.

  • Tshegofatso Kekana - 2013-12-10 15:05

    Lol maara jacob zuma..let's be crus deep down u knew dis was gona happen I knw u nt educated and all maar dis was quite obvious I bet dos two heads tryed to warn u..mandela hard work cnt go down wif hm u da one that should!!

  • Maggie Cox - 2013-12-10 15:12

    It was a pleasure to listen to Barack Obama speak.

  • Molokoane Lebogang - 2013-12-10 15:20

    I dont think this is the place and time to show how unhappy we are with our current leader. When the time comes for people to show(during the elections)how unhappy they are they dont come to the party. I wonder what other leaders are thinking of the people of south africa...this is pure contempt.Zuma will reap what he sows at the ripe time and what will he have to show for it. His works shall follow him like our Dear Mandela, his works are showing. People should learn to know to discern the time and place- we are here to salute a great leader...

  • Ketso Malapane - 2013-12-10 15:40

    I think its easy to point fingers at zuma for obvious reasons but if have a good look at the situation then one will see that as much as mandela was under the command of the anc so is zuma so if u want to place the blame then blame anc nt zuma coz its pointless to boo zuma coz at the end of the day nothing will come from it

      Ntlahla Tiva - 2013-12-10 16:11

      that utter rubbish you are spewing ketso!who stole the tax payers money to build his home?

  • Lufuno Rasivhetshele - 2013-12-10 15:41

    A well organised occasion, the world is united respecting our Hero TATA MADIBA MANDELA.Proudly RSA moment.

  • David Nieuwenhuizen - 2013-12-10 16:29

    Wrong stage to show your displeasure, rather walk in Nelson's footprints at such a time. On a political stage the time will be right.

      Aslam Parker - 2013-12-10 18:29

      Illustrating that displeasure is walking in his footsteps. Is expressing our collective displeasure against the abuse of power not what Mr Mandela fourt for? The country has been showing its support and rememberance from the passing of Mr Mandela was announced, it has been a continuous memorial. The ANC has shown us that they can effectively ignore the people (They voted Mr Zuma back in at Mangaung. While unfortunate, this was necessary.

  • Rendani Kwinda - 2013-12-10 16:37

    i want anc not zuma, comfused

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