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Ramphele: Leaders failed SA

2012-08-24 07:33

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma, his ministers, union leaders, mining company Lonmin and the police all failed South Africa during the Marikana killings, anti-apartheid activist Mamphela Ramphele said.

Also, once these leaders tried to intervene, their actions were destructive, she said.

SABC radio news quoted her as saying the Marikana shooting, which left 34 miners dead last week, was a clear example of a monumental leadership failure in South Africa.

"The unions, Lonmin, the police, minister of mineral resources, minister of labour and of course the president - all were missing in action and when they did come to act, it was destructive," Ramphele said at a function in Cape Town on Thursday evening.

Ramphele, who resigned as a board member from mining group Anglo American earlier this year, said there was no guarantee that a similar incident would not occur elsewhere in the country.


Comments
  • greg.botha.75 - 2012-08-24 07:38

    Most things that happen in SA daily are indicative of the Government's failed leadership...time for a change!!

      anthonycharles.williams - 2012-08-24 08:07

      I think, to late for change far to much damage done

      scouter.fourone - 2012-08-24 08:12

      Agreed Leonard - this Lady deserves great respect & does not have to demand it. A very wise head on those shoulders, methinks.

      Daniel - 2012-08-24 08:21

      One only has to look at the failure of Zuma and his cabinet to act against his nephew and his shenanigans, to realize how the goverment thinks. How many lives have been affected there ? This is the way they operate !!

      colin.dovey - 2012-08-24 08:24

      If you continue voting, and then protesting against a useless, inept and corrupt regime, then it is like banging your head against a brick wall, and cannot understand why it hurts so badly. This regime must go, and cadre deployment must end. We need to vote directly for our own representatives - for people we honour and respect - a good start would be somebody like our current Public Protector - Thuli Madonsela. Zuma is a wimp of a politician and costing you and I a fortune - R517 million at the last count, and rising!

      alan.jerrold - 2012-08-24 08:53

      @LeonardB - spot on! I would estimate that at least 90% of Whities in SA - if not more - couldn't care less about the colour of people in governance. All we want is GOOD governance, NON-CORRUPT governance, EFFECTIVE governance, governance that doesn't waste and steal tens of billions of our hard-earned tax money annually. So a big up for Dr Mamphela Ramphele, Reuel Khoza, Moeletsi Mbeki etc who tell it like it really is. The only defence the proven-useless ANC and its supporters have is to cry 'apartheid', although the ANC has now been in power for nearly 20 years. It's like the Nats used 'Swart gevaar', only now in reverse. It's time for change for all our sakes, especially the poor who are being robbed by the ANC daily.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-24 12:38

      Leonardb1. You can't blame the usual bunch of ANC groupies for being quiet. Mrss Ramphele has a head full of brains and they don't like that.

      cleve.fletcher - 2012-11-01 11:01

      @Leonardb1: Thank you. I wish more black folks would realise that it's not that white people hate black people, it's that we hate the corruption and stupidity that is ruining our communal future. Sure, racism exists amongst blacks and whites and there always will be, but there is an incredible over-sensitivity amongst black people that the instant a white person criticises a politican who happens to be black, this is interpreted as racial assault. This is one of the perceptions that urgently needs to be replaced by one closer to the truth as stated above. Respect brother

      cleve.fletcher - 2012-11-01 11:05

      @Xavier7034: I think that you are a little bit light in your estimate there friend, after all, we still haven't had the breakdown of the kickbacks with R70bn arms deal.

  • Jason - 2012-08-24 07:40

    leadership has a massive role to play in this, but also the Miners themselves must be held responsible. They are adults and allow themselves to be used as pawns. Taking Muti so the bullets wont kill you?? Hacking police officers to death???? I think the rot goes all the way into our homes and the moral standards we live by.

      phillip.meyer.56 - 2012-08-24 08:17

      Amen Jason!!! Everyone is blaming each other but the miners started with the violence. They could have tried to resolve their issues in a more peaceful manner but violence is in-bedded in their culture and as long as they don't change that their will be still a lot of bloodshed in our country.

      VWhitepaw - 2012-08-24 08:27

      As so many reports asked. Why do you go to a pace full protests with weapons? And before someone say it's traditional weapons, since when is a panga and apparently guns traditional weapons? And a weapon is a weapon. 2 police was hacked to death. Yet the police is a fault when they shoot. From some articles, it was said the police tried water canons and teargas long before they used live ammo. Another thought. Did they not try an intimidate the police with their show of weapons and aggressiveness. Yet they are shocked that they got an aggressive response. I'm now just waiting for a call to make this a public holiday also...

      Klaus - 2012-08-24 08:31

      Jason, i would have thought School Teachers might be on hand, but seeing their behaviour as unionised Government Employees, what can one say?

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-24 08:43

      Well said Jason!

      themba.maseko.568 - 2012-08-24 09:14

      I would like to know what has Dr Ramphele done as a board member at Anglo, a mining company. You see it is very easy to talk and criticise but very difficult to show what you have done as an individual. I need more action from you Dr Ramphele!!!

      djgmaestro - 2012-08-24 10:59

      The Miners suffered loses, trying to voice out their concerns. The Police suffered loses, trying to protect the economy, Lohnmil property. Lohnmil is the giant that remain standing not with even a scratch. I pray that those who died, the Miner and Police should not die in vain.

  • JAbu.R15 - 2012-08-24 07:41

    Im amazed at all this. This woman is telling the truth! and when MAlema suggest change people say no because he is an idiot. but when an educated person like this woman talks noone will dare to argue. fact is, Zuma is destructive to our country and he failed to act in time only reacted so he must not go but leave!

      Jacques - 2012-08-24 08:09

      I agree with Malema on this- but you also need to ask yourself: why is Malema saying what he is, versus what Ramphele is saying it? Malema has shown his true colours: he wil do/say anything to gain popularity. (Think 'I will kill for Zuma' 'I love whites' etc.) That's why. Not because he's an idiot. Not because he's black. But because he's a kiniving political snake.

      abra.kadaver.1 - 2012-08-24 08:16

      The difference is that Juju wants to take control and dreams of being president , where Dr Mamphela Ramphele is just giving her educated opinion.

      alan.jerrold - 2012-08-24 08:58

      Jabu - the difference is that Malema is simply opportunistically using events like the Lonmin shooting to further his own political career. That's all. He has no clue how economics works and if put in power would destroy the economy of SA like Mugabe destroyed Zim or Idi Amin Uganda. If you trust Malema you are very foolish indeed. Dr Mamphela Ramphele, however, is a totally different case - she is someone who has proved by her actions that she is wise. Not involved in massive crooked Limpopo tenders like Juju.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-24 10:44

      Malema suggests change for selfish reasons only. He is the one who put Zuma in power as he knew he was weak and thought he could could manipulate him. Malema is merely another opportunist. This country needs leaders who actually care about something other then themselves - Malema is not one of these people.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-24 12:40

      JAbu.R15. I agree with Malema this time, but what are his reasons?.

  • allan.keyzer - 2012-08-24 07:48

    There are to many pigs at the feeding trough with each one only looking at how much they can get for themselves. We are directionless and really in need of new leadership that can lead without self interest.

      Klaus - 2012-08-24 08:34

      Look no further than Bloemfontein (Mangaung) were you will see 4500 appointed ANC cadres, responsible for the MESS we are in!

  • shimeAschendorf - 2012-08-24 07:48

    Give this woman a bells,we need change, Malema as roudy as he is,is also advocating for change, the leadership has failed, everything this ANC wants to do is fix,!

      JAbu.R15 - 2012-08-24 07:59

      my point exactly. MAlema was ruthless and follish but prior to his suspensionand dismisall he was speaking the truth, the truth the government couldnt handle. We need better leaders, less corrupt leaders who really care about us not bozuma who are in it for the money!

      Mike_or_Mpho - 2012-08-24 08:18

      @JAbu - you mean leaders like this intellectual Malema?

      Mike_or_Mpho - 2012-08-24 08:19

      In my humble opinion, we don't need more leaders, we need more SA citizens that are capable of thinking for themselves

  • fanie.brink.5 - 2012-08-24 07:48

    What's new????

  • kuschke1 - 2012-08-24 07:54

    At last! An honest opinion and a true reflection of what happened. The conditions were right for the "perfect storm". Greedy capitalists, power struggle between unions, ill-disciplined and poorly trained police force, crime intelligence failure, ANC power struggle and leadership vacuum, ANCYL fanning flames of intollerance and hatred. I hope the first order of business of the commission of enquiry is to find the witch doctor who performed the "invisible and invincible" magic spell on the miners

      PB - 2012-08-24 08:11

      It would not surprise me at all if this circus was orchestrated by the Tokyo-Winnie-Juliaaaaaaaaaaas conglomerate for maximum chaos ahead of Mangaun. They are either planning to convince the other hangers-on in the anc's top structures to allow them to take over the running of the anc, or they are going to start their own party. All of this works beautifully for the nationalisation ideals that they are so in favour of. And the idiotic pawns are following their lead. Dr Ramphele is the ideal person to take on the witch doctor who is seriously guilty of murder, or assisted suicide.

  • Jacques - 2012-08-24 07:58

    The sad thing is- the people who did fail aren't the ones suffering. The sufferers are the family members of the victims. At the end of the day, while this 'probe' is ongoing, these fatcats abd politically connected businessmen still pocket millions while they can't see over their boundary fences to notice the real world out there...

  • mike.dufham.7 - 2012-08-24 08:06

    Must find out if my dog also has something to say regarding this issue

      sarel.brits - 2012-08-24 11:46

      And? What does your prized pootch say? LOL

  • thabzmadi - 2012-08-24 08:07

    I vote Dr Mamphela Ramphele for President!!!

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-08-24 08:09

    You can not give these people the title of "Leaders" Pretenders maybe? The ANC has failed South Africa. They are the weakest link.

  • attie.gerber.1 - 2012-08-24 08:14

    it is easy for her to comment now. why did she not comment when she a board member at anglo, but no she was also creaming it then. this whole thing in south africa has gone to far and will never be resolved. fat cats getting richer all the corruption in govt departments, but still malema and company blames white people for this mess. this govt and it's allies will never admit that they are wrong,but blames other people for this mess. this what they call the africa agenda

  • SirFGrumpy - 2012-08-24 08:20

    Sorry dear, the only people to blame are the unions and labor themselves. The carrying of a weapon and inciting to violence will provoke a swift and harsh response. You do not kill innocent policemen and mine employees and not expect some retaliation. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. My only hope is that this is the final nail in the coffin of these whore unions. The union officials live the life of Larry while the employees get screwed. Who gets blamed, you guessed it, whites and big companies! "WE DEMAND" just does not cut it anymore.

  • phumi.ntlabati - 2012-08-24 08:24

    Look whose talking? After this neoliberal failed to make radical transforms in the mining industry where she was a leader, now she is pointing the finger! This charlatan has no moral standing on this issue because she was part of the problem that lead us to this stalemate. Ramphele should just shut-up and enjoy her shares that she got from the blood of the miners while they last!

      alan.jerrold - 2012-08-24 09:01

      Oh Phumi - enough of your ideological Communist-inspired 'neoliberal' crap. This is 2012. The Berlin Wall came down decades ago. Grow up.

  • deon.louw.7505 - 2012-08-24 08:25

    The miners had acted in a criminal way by killing and damaging property, this is why we had loss of life.

  • charles.kubhayi.9 - 2012-08-24 08:28

    I think Dr Ramphele has failed to reason around the tendency of capitalists to frustrate attempts by workers and their leaders to negotiate for wages.Everytime Unions try to calm down any violent action the capitalists do not come on board instead they want workers to earn far less than expected in life while they access huge profits for themselves.That in itself incite violence which results to what we have seen but the blame is now shifted to certain individuals in government which is opportunistic and factional.We must not use the Marikana incident to forward our narrow personal interests which do not build this Nation, plaese Dr Ramplele.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-24 10:51

      Capitalists? Ask communist block miners what they get paid. And they are not allowed to argue, the state has all the power. The biggest falacy on the planet is that communism empowers "the people". The exact opposite - all power is transferred to the rulers. I agree, capitalism needs a lot of tweaking, but it is far more "people freindly" than communism. Amazes me you don't know this ... where have you heard of a communist country there the riche's of mines are "shared amongst the workers". Amazing.

      Parys - 2012-08-24 12:34

      Charles, you need to wake up and see the truth. The current regime has only one plan and that is to move us all into communism and that my friend will make Marikana look like a Sunday school picnic. Our biggest problem lies with the masses ho keep voting for these very evil people and their outdated ideological ideas. It is time for change...now not later as it will be to late.

  • sarel.brits - 2012-08-24 08:30

    Ok this is for the benefit of previously disadvantaged masses who is still in the same situation. This is how democracy works, YOU vote for a government and if its leaders then drop the ball YOU suffer not them, you deserve the government you vote for, but you can change that, don't vote for them, this was not a leader failure but the failure of all South Africans that keep on voting for these “leaders”. The power is in your hands not Zuma or God forbid Malema or even Tannie Zille. Change the government and if you don't like you can always change it back again.

  • linds.ronhouse - 2012-08-24 08:43

    We need to be realistic. Mine management unilaterally decided to increase salaries of one group of employees and leave others. This created the neccessary conditions for violence. It is unfair to expect a state president to intervene in labour disputes. However, the National Intelligence Agency should have picked this up and advised the president accordingly. Finally, the mine CFO earns at least 155 times more than the striking employees. The increasing gap between salaries of workers and management will continue to lead into revolts like this.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-24 08:59

      We prefer to believe the myth that thousands of years of human social evolution has finally perfected the ideal economic system, rather than to face the fact we have merely bought into a false concept and accepted it as gospel. We have convinced ourselves that all economic growth benefits humankind, and that the greater the growth, the more widespread the benefits. We have persuaded one another that the corollary to this concept is valid and morally just: that people who excel at stoking the fires of economic growth should be exalted and rewarded, while those born at the fringes are available for exploitation. There's nothing frightening about everyone having the chance to work without exploitation, except for the types who think having the vulnerable work while you reap the rewards is "earning" money. And all the fear-laden, callous claims that "it's the best system we have" won't change the outcome of the moral test we are put to; it's time to make a better system. Of course the mine workers' behavior is inexcusable!

      linds.ronhouse - 2012-08-24 09:30

      The Shoprite/Checkers CEO earns at least 1600 times more than the cashier. I was rather surprised when the DA, at it's new alternative policy document discussion, quoted Brazil as a good example. Brazil took a conscious decision to grow lower end salaries 4 or 5 times faster than the top end salaries. This increased disposable income and buying power of the majority. This in turn increased demand for goods and services. Demand increased production and increased production created new jobs to meet the demand.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-24 09:43

      As long as we are complicit with the idea that one person's time and expertise is worth hundreds of times more than another's (we don't need parity, but nor do we need these kind of levels of disparity), this will continue. Since 1994, SA has become a paradise for profiteers, often those with ANC connections. A new class of black profiteer has sprung up, as greedy, ready and willing to exploit SA's black poor as ever existed in the white regime. Exploitative capitalism, is colour-blind, and knows no colour-consciousness South Africa will never move forward as long as this economic disparity continues, especially in its dangerously obvious racial form.

      linds.ronhouse - 2012-08-24 10:40

      "Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich by promising to protect each from the other" - Oscar Ameinger Poor people want protection from the exploitative capitalist. The rich want protection from poor people who demand higher wages and social welfare. The government must play a near impossibly balancing act. But what really baffles me is that economists tell us that lower end/entry level salaries are too high in South Africa. This is a textbook view, very far from reality.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-24 11:00

      fidel - I agree the system needs changing, but the racial form you quote is misleading. The biggest exploiters of the current situation seem to be black - instant billionaires, but very little happening on the ground. At least white people are providing employment. But ja, the current system is not balanced. Please don't suggest communism - the fat cat and peasant system, I'd rather see a socially responsible system. We do need a system that rewards those who offer the most valuable contribution to making things work. Pure equality is ludicrous ... we can't all do the same things, and some are better than others, some work harder than others. Communism kills the wills of competent people, as they are rewarded the same as the lazy and stupid, and the whole system starts collapsing. We are humans, not ants and bee's ...

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-24 11:03

      The trouble with economic orthodoxy is most economists seem to be employed either by the financial or corporate sector, and therefore say what their masters want to hear. Corporations fund educational institutions and influence the kind of economic theory taught at these institutions. It is almost impossible to make someone see something, when their pay cheques depends on them not seeing it.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-24 11:47

      @Chum I hold no brief for communists and their pervese and distorted economic theory or/and practice. Human beings are not homogeneous and will always want different things and will compete to have those things. I would be lying if I told you that I have alternatives but it is up to all of us to find a better "equitable" way of sharing our country's resources. "but the racial form you quote is misleading. The biggest exploiters of the current situation seem to be black" I have made reference to the black profiteers in my statement above, but the biggest employer in this country is still white people and this is where the biggest exploitation occurs. It is for this reason that most blacks refuse to vote for the so called white parties because of the economic treatment they receive from whites, whether this (mis)treatment is real or perceived is neither here nor there as perceptions are "real".

      Linds - 2012-08-24 14:42

      Chun, remember that the South African economy suffers from Irish Coffee Syndrome. Huge black majority at the bottom (poor black people) and white cream on top (rich white people) with a few sprinkles of chocolate (rich black people). We need to find a way to stir this up.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-24 14:55

      South Africa needs an educated black population, but how do you achieve this when the people entrusted with this task are incompetent fools. Conversely how do you convince the people that keep these incompetent fools in power to vote otherwise when they derive no meaningful benefit from the people that they are supposed to be voting for (whites or so called white parties). Blacdk people might be uneducated but they are no fools. They can see the flaunting of riches and wealth by their employers who pay them a pittance, who then turn around and say they should be voting this way or that way. White bosses who have the biggest level of interaction with blacks outside politics need to change their attitudes if they want to convince blacks to vote for an opposition party. They are the key in changing perceptions and reality in this country.

      Linds - 2012-08-24 15:04

      It's a tall order Fidel, one that might not happen in out lifetime. In fact, i do believe the biggest opposition needs to trnsform. I like Premier Zille, but I do not believe South Africa is ready for a white president again (in a country where whites account for no more than 10% of the population). And we must also reject the so received wisdom that black = incompetence.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-24 19:39

      It's been refreshing and educational to have a conversation with you but mostly these threads get hijacked by a horde of ranters who have no interest in debate other than spreading their inbred bigotry. Till we meet again!

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-08-24 08:44

    Why is nothing said about the government failing the SA farming community where farmers are being systematically culled and at the same time threatened by the government! Are they going to wait until there is no more food on the table before they wake up and say: "Eish, we have a problem!"

  • lenox.ntlantsana - 2012-08-24 08:50

    All the stake holders mentioned by the Dr are really for sure to be blamed. It goes back to the fact that SA is here to deal with the past and yet again.

  • jacyjays.letsoalo - 2012-08-24 08:50

    @ Times I fail to understand u Mrs. Ramphele, but where is the president coming into this because during strikes there are structures to address such issues. Did Zuma tell the miners to find the Inyanga who convinced the miners that they will be invincible when they \fight\ with the police? No! I don't condone the violence that occured there but sometimes we mustnt steal the limelight from other people's tragedy. All that is needed is sanity to prevail. Zuma, who is not my favourite person cannot be blamed for people who were looking for an impossible increase! Where in the world have u heard of such an exhobitant increase? South African Leaders let us stop seeking glory on other ppl's tragedy. It is quite unfortunate that all of us just watched when the events unfolded. There have been a lot of strikes in the country and we can't condone violence and the president can't always be there to monitor every little incident. The role of the police is to protect us from criminals. Dr. Ramphele, u are our icon but please don't join the bandwagon of those who thrive on other people's mercy. The Marikana incident is a disaster which only a judicial inquiry. May their souls rest in Peace

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-24 12:36

      The increase only looks exhorbitant because the miners are paid a pittance! What you should be asking is if these mining companies can afford such wages and salaries, and how much discomfort would this cause the already fat mining bosses and/or their shareholders. I do however agree with the rest of your post.

  • nathaniel.kgokong.3 - 2012-08-24 08:51

    we have been talking and talking and it waste time now we must act we know where the problem is so we must do something about it,it is now time to let them go and we get real leaders who are prepared to work we dont want promises this is not fairytales but real life with real gold and platinum and real money being made here it is now time

  • clive.kihn - 2012-08-24 08:55

    Once again this lady is right on the ball.

  • serame.seleki.3 - 2012-08-24 08:59

    The problem is at the top..Pres Zuma..These are the indications of youur weak leadership...come Mangaung..Zuma must GO..I mean there's crisis in almost every government dept..ie.Police brutality on Andries Tatane,now marikana,health dept collapsing,and of course the education dept on books being dumped everywhere,Municipalities under administration..Zuma must do this country a favour..JUST STEP DOWN..u're just a self serving leader.

  • diana.gill.18 - 2012-08-24 08:59

    Then why majority of SA population are still going and voting African Numerous Crooks? If people are so stupid do they think they deserve any better?

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-08-24 09:04

    Its not just now because of the shooting....they've been failing for a long time already. 18 year gravy train and stuff the people that voted them into power

  • ludlowdj - 2012-08-24 09:06

    All this proves is that the masses have simply exchanged one devil for another, Whites have been warning them of what will happen for years. You think you suffered under white rule, wait! you haven't seen anything yet!

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-24 14:15

      Yes black people did suffer under white rule, a lot. To relativise apartheid is filthy!

  • nukki.green - 2012-08-24 09:07

    Please Mrs. Ramphele, stand for President, we need someone like you to turn this Country around!!!

      ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-08-24 10:13

      Ramphele does not belong to any political party, so forget it.

      clive.kihn - 2012-08-24 11:42

      Unfortunately Nukki, with our current electoral system, this is not possible. Only about 4000 toyi-toying ANC cadres have a say in who the president is. Some democracy!

  • stefan.kruger.1297 - 2012-08-24 09:55

    We've said this now for years and years... we need change we need change, and what do we do... we always take in someone spelling the GOOD over us and without noticing it they control us... Look at Malema, he's people love him because they believe him, and so did everyone who voted for the ANC... they believed these people that lie and lie and lie... I personally think it would be a good thing if a female was in charge, throughout my relationship experience, they have the ability to have the coldest hearts, which could lead to death penalty and that can just be a good thing!! But at the very last end... Governments give false information, and they don't look out for the welfare of the people...

  • elvis.nkoana - 2012-08-24 09:58

    But she was a board member of Anglo American and Gold Fields. Now that she has made enough money through the exploitation of rock drillers she decides to speak out. Get a life old woman, frankly i am tired of your grand standing.

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2012-08-24 10:09

    The leaders of this country need to stand up and take responsibility and in particular for the government ministers to accept that they have not served the interests of the people. They are as publics servants and leader paid by the taxpayer must be held accountable for failing to protect the citizens of this country. Not as in the past lay the blame elsewhere.

  • joe.peters.56 - 2012-08-24 10:18

    Vote DA

  • harry.dewet.5 - 2012-08-24 10:22

    So next time when members of a heavily armed mob commit crimes by shooting, killing, and looting, the police must put down their weapons and surrender, because a competent leader will come forward to talk to the criminals? The police cannot let criminals do their own thing: if they do not want to listen, they must get it, otherwise there will be no ways to stop further criminal activities and restore order. The fact that the mob came with all their weapons, implies that they were ready for battle and they knew that some of them could die. Next time they will do the same and commit even more crimes, because they get the consent and sympathy from most people. This situation has become very dangerous and may snowball into total chaos, unless the message becomes clear that no criminal activities will be tolerated. There is no law and order in this country, because there is no respect or fear for either the police or the law systems. No one can get the death sentence anymore, which implies that the police may also not shoot to kill anymore? This has resulted in more than 20 000 people being murdered per year in SA - about the same amount of people that died in the civil war in Syria up to now! If the armed mobs get too big, no one will be able to stop them anymore... Will it help to talk to the mob if they believed the lies of Malema and insist to have ridiculous increases in salaries? Has Malema not become a warlord who promises his followers wealth, prosperity and victory?

  • norman.motlhabani - 2012-08-24 10:33

    Absolutely true. Illiteracy at the top, led by the blind….. Just a recipe for disaster. Drastic changes are needed in this country. Political appointments should come to an end.

  • firstseed.mbeva.9 - 2012-08-24 10:43

    She is paraphrasing Malema's words. The same difference

  • djgmaestro - 2012-08-24 11:08

    This is above Politics, it is a Humanity issue.

  • jeanpierre.vandervyver - 2012-08-24 11:09

    Blaming things, living in the Past, Apartheid and what not.. it will not improve anything in reality, Reality is, every human being on this earth made mistakes, no one is perfect, instead of looking to respond negatively on peoples historic mistakes, try to promote Righteous, Love, Positivity, Hope and to stand together to make this nation a better nation. Jews who went through the holocaust did not stop them from becoming succesful on rebuilding their country Israel, that is the point, stop looking back..look forward to making a better future. Peace.

  • kosmonooit - 2012-08-24 11:10

    By extrapolation one can say the ANC's policies have failed SA. After all, the leadership are 'deployed comrades', are they not?

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-08-24 11:12

    Cannot agree more. And yet, it is the "leadership" that takes vast amounts of money for themselves, on the grounds of their leadership "attributes" and "reponsibilities". Time for a change.

  • mark.partington.77 - 2012-08-24 12:10

    Can this wonderful lady please step forward and take up a leadership position with the DA, thereby giving the opposition more credibility than it currently enjoys and hopefully then garner so many votes as to become a real opposition and a government in waiting.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-24 12:35

    I am glad she woke up.

  • George - 2012-08-24 13:13

    We need to move to a situation defined in the constitution, non-racist, pro-life, pro-competence and service delivery. Outlaw AA, BE, BBEE and all other forms of deception. Vote DA, at least once to see how they perform.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-24 13:29

      Unfortunately we cannot dismiss the historical fact that this country was born out of a racial definition and has to be advanced with that racial definition rebalanced.

      sarel.brits - 2012-08-24 14:20

      BEE does not work when its aimed at a minority even if you give all the jobs from white people to blacks you will have gained only a few thousand jobs. What Mandela should have done is throw the gauntlet down and challenge white business people to create as much jobs as possible to correct the imbalance.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-24 15:04

      BEE as it stands is nothing but a cooption by corporate South Africa to buy influence in the ruling party even though it is touted as the empowering of Africans. The responsibility of creating jobs should never lie with one race group only. Whites should be willing to make some sacrifices as well, and some of these sacrifices will include some whites loosing out economically. That is where we are today and hopefully this doesn't last more than its necessary.

      Linds - 2012-08-24 15:16

      @George, take SAA for example. 90% of their pilots are white males. If they do not implement some form of an employment equity plan, this will continue. White females and all black people will continue to be excluded. These policies are great. It's implementation that is not so great sometimes. As a matter of fact and contrary to popular belief research has shown that the biggest beneficiaries of these policies are actually white. Remember that white females form part of the priviously disadvandaged groups. They're currently the biggest beneficiaries of EE, followed by Indians, then Africans and finally Coloureds.

  • nathaniel.kgokong.3 - 2012-08-24 16:17

    whatif this has been engineered to nationalize mines watch and see

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