Refresher course for protest cops

2011-04-26 22:33

Durban - South Africa’s 8 500 crowd control police officers will get a refresher course in handling protests, national police commissioner General Bheki Cele said in Durban on Tuesday.

"The management took a decision in Kimberley last week to give them a refresher course on how to handle protests," he said while on a walkabout on a local beach.

The decision followed several recent incidents of police brutality that were reported to police watchdog, the Independent Complaints Directorate.

The most widely publicised one was the death of protester Andries Tatane, allegedly at the hands of eight police officers, during a service delivery protest in Ficksburg in the Free State on April 13.

"Protests should be handled properly. There should be no one who gets hurt. Protesters who become violent should be arrested," Cele said.

The 8 500 officers to be sent on the course worked on crowd control during the 2010 FIFA Soccer World Cup.

"They wont go for training all at once because there are too many."

On Tatane's death, Cele said: "The ICD is dealing with the issue. I believe there is progress."

The training would also remind officers how to use rubber bullets.

"There is a proper way of using rubber bullets. There has to be a certain distance [between the officer and the person being shot at],” he said.

There had been speculation that Tatane could have been killed by rubber bullets fired into his chest at close range.

Six police officers appeared in the Ficksburg Magistrate's Court on Tuesday in connection with Tatane's murder.

Olebogeng Mphirime, Tehedi Moeketsie, Jonas Skosana and Mphonyane Ntaje, face assault charges, and Israel Moiloa and Mothusi Maqana charges of murder.

Two more Bloemfontein public order policing unit officers, a lieutenant colonel and sergeant, would appear alongside them later after being arrested last Wednesday.

  • Dal68 - 2011-04-26 22:53

    Yes, why did you stop training the police in the first place...oh yes, because you have no clue what policing is about......

      golferspal - 2011-04-27 05:03

      How can you train people with no intelligence.They cannot rule a nation.

      Michael - 2011-04-27 06:40

      @Da168, a refresher course means you retrain based training originally received! What does "STOP" in your sentence mean, Sethotho towe?

      Dal68 - 2011-04-27 08:26

      @Michael, even self-study courses in policing ia better than the training the police is getting now. Most experts have already left the police due to no promotion, or the lack of a future in the police. The people giving the training is useless and have NO clue as to what is needed for a true crime prevention police "force". Some "instructors" even allow for self study, as they themselves haven't been trained in specific subjects. This is the legacy of the anc, education at no level is of importance, not even at this vital part - the police.

      Francois - 2011-04-27 10:31

      Don't worry - the next thing will be batteries instead of rubber bullets. Apartheid policing is cathcing on fast, because it is the same type of policing - they need to protect a minority elite whose idealogy could not deliver.

  • Brandon - 2011-04-26 22:57

    Isn't it simple logic and human decency to not kill a human being who is already being bludgeoned by numerous baton wielding cops? I wouldn't shoot another person who I knew was of no threat because I'm a reasonable individual...I require no training to know this already.

      Frungy - 2011-04-27 01:53

      Spot on Brandon. The problem wasn't that they didn't know the correct way to fire the rubber bullet, it was that they thought that shooting a guy who was clearly no threat and was already getting beaten on was an acceptable idea... so they're sending them off to learn the PROPER way to shoot a defenseless man with a rubber bullet. Way to miss the point General Cele. ... it's clear that the migration to military ranks has bought with it "military intelligence".

  • jock van wyk - 2011-04-26 23:13

    What about a refresher course on the shoot to kill system

  • NicBear - 2011-04-26 23:24

    "They wont go for training all at once because there are too many." Yes Mr Minister, that is obvious. Stupid Idiot!!!!!

  • brett.macdonald1 - 2011-04-26 23:36

    What in heavens name does an ANC political deployment like Beki Cele know about any sort of policework? Now he's making an announcement about something which is a manifestation of the same rot coming into the police that has crippled so many other state institutions.. No more cadre deployments!!

      Perfume - 2011-04-27 11:02

      Just curious was Cele a policeman before, how did he become General????

  • Gido - 2011-04-27 00:18

    Why don't you start with a minimum matric education.. bheki cele is a F@KING JOKE!! May the death of Andries Tatane bring freedom to this country..!!

      JWW - 2011-04-27 14:35

      By setting the standard that high our president will have to be replaced

  • Ivym - 2011-04-27 00:27

    what a crock of crap. last year they were all trained by the poms, the frogs and the krauts for the world cup. the crux of the matter is that these idiots are just untrainable and the sooner Cele the school teacher realizes this the better.

  • onetickie - 2011-04-27 00:28

    Didn't think you could qualify to do any public service without training first. Arse about face as usual and Cele is not a good example to any police officer or potential new recruits.

  • Tired - 2011-04-27 01:10

    Its good cause one of these days the masses will realize that the whites still rule the country and want to stop it so please fight it with good police....We order you!!! We don't need Mass disturbance we are happy with things! Whites rule and small boy Malema is still scared look at his army...hahahahahahaha.

  • U1 - 2011-04-27 02:06

    Seems to me that they are expecting more protests.......

  • Sword&Cross - 2011-04-27 05:41

    Appropriate to have a POLICE STATE look after everyone in SA for the next few hundred years while the Democracy matures and people are weaned away from customary tribal existence going shosholoza uguah uguh ooooooogah booogah all the way! I mean we are still at the stage where the minister must try and tell people not to drink so heavily and even how to wash their hands and backsides VIA NATIONAL TV. 5000 years should about do it.

      tryanything - 2011-04-27 07:36

      That Quick?

  • tryanything - 2011-04-27 07:35

    And who the hell is going to run these courses??

  • wheazel - 2011-04-27 08:00

    Personally I think they still need to attend the original course!!!

  • Gary - 2011-04-27 08:02

    There should be ongoing training, the cops should always be improving themselves. This is typical of "general" Cele.

  • Serias - 2011-04-27 08:04

    Think the Minister of Police needs a refresher. Fckn idiots.

      ALCAB - 2011-04-27 21:35

      Cele can give them d.v.ds and they can do the training at home.

  • Ho - 2011-04-27 08:06

    No doubt thee "tray neeng"will take place near to a KFC...and I would think that a tender for thee "tray neeng" will soon BEE awarded...

  • Zion - 2011-04-27 08:15

    Again all the gung-ho and big and bombastic talk from general Custer. Still one has the impression he does not really know how to us the gun firing rubber bullets. His only yardstick is the distance. Just another case of a flurry of big talk and big opinions and plans and promises which peters out to an end result of nothing, as usual.

  • James Joubert - 2011-04-27 08:27

    Oh isn't this the ultimate excuse ....I hear it all the time in my working environment - when somebody stuffs up ...."I need to be trained". Funny how the request never comes before the stuff-up. My point is, you should not be a policeman if you don't know how to do the job.

  • twolips - 2011-04-27 09:39

    But they are perfectly trained, Gen Cele! You did say "Shoot to kill" didn't you?

  • gizzy - 2011-04-27 09:42

    Refresher course? They should be starting from scratch! You can't refresh something that is rotten.

  • saliem - 2011-04-27 10:14

    "Protesters who become violent should be arrested" Ermmmmm so what do they do now? You said "shoot to kill" - remember? Would love to know who will do the training, seeing as they have retrenched many of those who are capable of doing the job.

  • puzafb - 2011-04-27 12:41

    there we go again,waste of people's money with reactive minds.when are these minds going to think proactively? must someone always die?

  • JWW - 2011-04-27 14:39

    While we are at it can't we train the ANC politicians on democracy, honesty, the difference between the government and the ANC party etc.

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