Root out drug dealers: Manuel

2012-07-10 15:32

Johannesburg - The "chemical warfare" waged in the country by drug dealers should stop, Minister in the Presidency Trevor Manuel said on Tuesday.

"Can we mobilise South Africans across the country... can we make a call on people to identify the drug dealers?" he said in Johannesburg.

Manuel, who heads the national planning commission, said drugs were causing the destruction of families and communities.

"What stands between many South Africans and a better life is the chemical warfare against our youngsters."

Manuel was speaking at an event to mark the fifth anniversary of the Crime Line SMS 32211 anonymous tip-off service, endorsed by the police and promoted by Primedia Broadcasting.

He said problems with drugs were not limited to their consumption and sale.


"It's about the destruction of families... theft in the street, theft in the neighbourhood. Nothing and nobody is allowed to have any possessions and everybody is caught in that downward spiral."

Drugs caused warfare against youths and gangsterism.

"We will fail unless we get to the root of it," he continued.

People spoke of crime affecting potential foreign direct investment, but the effects were closer to home.

"The first targets of the petty gangsters in townships are those who have pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and have invested in a small, medium or micro enterprise," he said.

To mark former president Nelson Mandela's birthday on July 18, people should disclose the names of drug dealers. The police could not be left to "fight the war" alone, he said.

Police killings

Western Cape provincial police commissioner Lieutenant General Arnold Lamoer said the recent confiscation by police of vast amounts of Mandrax tablets and the drug "tik" showed the extent of the problem in the country.

"The country must be rescued from drug dealers, criminals and gangsters."

National police commissioner Riah Phiyega lamented the slaying of five police officers since she took office less than a month ago.

"One slain police officer is one too many," she said.

She spent time over the past weekend with the family of Warrant Officer Mawethu Nelson Siganga in the Eastern Cape who was shot while he and three colleagues were trying to arrest six people - two of them escapees from jail.

"The experience was painful. It gave me a different picture of the seriousness the police are facing with police killings."

Fight against crime

Phiyega said she was convinced South Africans wanted to be part of the fight against crime and saw that people were willing to help the police.

Initiatives such as Crime Line, and the police's own Crime Stop 08600 10111 number, were ways people could help.

Phiyega was appointed on June 12, after her predecessor Bheki Cele was "released" during a controversy over a lease for new police office space.

Public Protector Thuli Madonsela, who found the lease to have been unlawful and improper, was at the function, but did not address guests.

Phiyega said the police had also recognised the value of social media and had set up a Twitter profile which had attracted 2 000 followers in two months.

Crime Line head Yusuf Abramjee, also group head for news and current affairs at Primedia Broadcasting, said Crime Line worked closely with Crime Stop to ensure police acted on information. It had led to over 3 000 arrests so far. Eighty percent of their tip-offs were drug-related.

He appealed to Phiyega to reintroduce specialised units to clamp down on drugs.

The function included a display by sniffer dogs Timmy and Lolita who demonstrated their skills by detecting a package of drugs, and a teddy bear containing rhino horn, planted in the vicinity of Manuel, Madonsela and Phiyega.

  • Henk - 2012-07-10 15:40

    Stop Corruption in government and then in the police and then maybe you can do the job we are paying you to do!

      daniel.jacobs.3766 - 2012-07-10 16:21

      Agreed! A Morrally bankrupt government who can't even safeguard its citizens against overtly corrupt government officials now wants to tackle a problem that the whole world has been trying for decades to do?! Smoking your socks again Trevor?

      david.b.mcfarlane - 2012-07-10 16:26

      How about a reward for reporting dealers? In the poorer communities a few thousand Rand could be the difference between seeing and reporting.

      freddy.vanwijk - 2012-07-10 16:53

      I fully agree Henk. But at the same time the penalties for drug dealers are way too light. We should follow the example of Muslim countries in general and sentence dealers to death. Unfortunately, our constitution is also way too soft in this regard.

      Cuteandbronzed - 2012-07-10 17:31

      You people dont get it, Nigerian peopel are havinga a field day, Black south africans have forgoten how they died, White South African's have forgotten how they feared and fought, for this country SOUTH AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE WAY TO SWEET!!! and your being used by the people your being kind to LETS HATE THE NIGERIAN PEOPLE!

      omo.naija.750 - 2012-07-10 19:19

      Luiza Mabaso(Blackyoungandangry) You hate Nigerians? Good for you.I am Nigerian so i guess you hate me too and all the 180 million Nigerians worldwide.What an achievement ,clap for yourself.

      sachasea - 2012-07-11 02:51

      Prohibitionists dance hand in hand with every possible type of criminal one can imagine. An unholy alliance of ignorance, greed and hate which works to destroy all our hard fought freedoms, wealth and security. We will always have adults who are too immature to responsibly deal with tobacco, alcohol, heroin, amphetamines, cocaine, various prescription drugs and even food. Our answer to them should always be: "Get a Nanny, and stop turning the government into one for the rest of us!" Many of us want to see an end to prohibition, but not necessarily because we want to use drugs (they are already available to us 24/7 on practically every street corner). No, we wish to see proper legalized regulation because we are witnessing, on a daily basis, the dangers and futility of prohibition. 'Legalized Regulation' won't be the complete answer to all our drug problems, but it'll greatly ameliorate the crime and violence on our streets, and only then can we provide effective education and treatment. The whole nonsense of 'a disaster will happen if we end prohibition' sentiment sums up the delusional 'chicken little' stance of those who foolishly insist on continuing down this blind alley. As if a disaster isn’t already happening? As if prohibition has ever worked?

      sachasea - 2012-07-11 10:46

  • bob.small.7547 - 2012-07-10 15:41

    Deport all Nigerians for a start!

      npretorius2 - 2012-07-10 15:50

      As soon as they get rid of all the Nigerians, the Zimbabweans will take over, after that the locals will take over the drug trade. As long as there is an easy way of making a buck, the problem will continue to exist. Drug dealing is about supply and demand. Unfortunately there is little that can be done to curb the demand. They should to stop the supply. Hit the producers and importers hard (Thailand,China as an example). As soon as the supply drops the price of drugs will go skyhigh and the demand will decrease gradually. At least that is what my common sense tells me

      npretorius2 - 2012-07-10 15:51

      But deport them anyway, might slow it down a bit

      sachasea - 2012-07-10 16:15

      npretorius2 - you will never reduce drug use through trying to lock up all of the dealers purely because as soon as one dealer goes away another two or three take his place and so it continues ad nauseum.

      serame.seleki.3 - 2012-07-10 16:58

      Get Rid of Pupil like GLEN AGLIOTTI first..they are publicly known lords that benefit from the control on the drug trade...a lot of nigerian dealers are on his payroll.first get him out then we could talk and move foward as a country..

      Cuteandbronzed - 2012-07-10 17:26

      You dont deserve a bells you deserve to own the company

      Cuteandbronzed - 2012-07-10 17:29

      Zimbabweans wouldnt do that, we cant hate Zim people thats weird, lets hate the Nigerians lets ahate hate and hate and lets see what happens when we hate them

      omo.naija.750 - 2012-07-10 19:41

      @bob.small.7547 & npretorius2 :Deport ALL Nigerians for a start!Wow you guys are very intelligent.As per your logic everyone who is a Nigerian national should be deported?? I guess the staff of the Nigerian embassy ,Legit Nigerian businessmen ,Nigerians with 9 to 5jobs,Nigerian children and exchange students should all be deported? So when you deport all of us what happens to our assets?You confisticate them as well just because we are Nigerians? Can you please show me where it is stated in the Constitution of South Africa or that being a Nigerian is a crime? You see i do my best not to hate you South Africans but your continued and unjust discrimination against Nigerians is just getting too unbearable for me to keep my cool.There are over 1 million Nigerians currently in SA,are you saying all 1 million Nigerians are drug dealers?You people should seek physiological help because the legacy of apartheid has severely affected your ability to reason intelligently. How come you guys don't talk about the users? The users are as guilty as the dealers because some users introduce their relatives to drugs and get them hooked.As a drug dealer ever knocked on your door to advertise drugs to you? The answer is NO.It is you junkies who drive your fancy cars to these underworld neighborhoods to seek out drugs dealers and patronize them.If you raise your children the right way they will not mingle with the wrong. Always blame others for your problems.That is the motto of South Africans.

      omo.naija.750 - 2012-07-10 19:57

      Until you South Africans stop looking for scapegoats to blame and wake up to the reality that charity begins at home,your problems will never go away.Take a look at Nigeria ,yes there are a lot of Nigerian immigrants who deal in drugs but even with those huge number of drugs being trafficked via Nigerian ,Nigerian youths do not use take drugs.Nigerian youths mainly focus on their studies and business. Many of you here know nothing about the real Nigeria and real Nigerians ,you just base your perceptions on media reports which have been tailored to project a negative image of Nigerians.Anyone with an IQ above 50 knows that Nigeria and Nigerians are not a problem to anyone. If South Africans raise their children in a decent manner and teach them to mingle with a the right people,to monitor their activities and ensure that they focus on their studies you will not have so many addicts. Instead what you find in the South African soicety are parents who share alcohol , cigarettes and weed with their children at a lekker braai.Parents who teach their kids from a young age to be racist and xenophobic to towards children of other nationalities and races.You see the reality is that the South African society is a society populated mostly by mental degenerates who have been brainwashed by Apartheid to think in the discriminatory manner some of you are thinking right now.

      Clayton Richard Delport - 2012-07-11 07:48

      @omo you make a valid point, yet white people con

      Clayton Richard Delport - 2012-07-11 07:50

      @omo you make a valid point, white people hate being treated less black people from south africa people hate it Indians hate it so why treat other people so badly?

  • Mhlonso - 2012-07-10 15:43

    Stupid Manuel. He seat in the hoiuse of power. HE is tasked with planning the future of the country... and now he sounds helpless? He must be joking. What is he gonna do?

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-07-10 16:41

      smoke a nice blunt when he gets home...

      Cuteandbronzed - 2012-07-10 17:28

      Like seriously his being democratic we dont need to be

  • felix.feline.3 - 2012-07-10 15:46

    Ask the minister of state security. I'm sure he has a good idea how the drugs are getting into SA.

  • mart.botha - 2012-07-10 15:48

    Absolutely right ....this poisen is destroying the very fabric of society. An apparently good piece of advice from many in the know, when asked what a parent should do if their kid becomes addicted to TIK, is....get them out of your life as quickly as possible, they will destroy you, your family and every value you ever held dear. Considering that addiction can occur from very little usage this is frightening enough to mobilise communities to destroy the drug trade and traders.

  • - 2012-07-10 15:49

    Root out the corrupt police guys, and goverment officials, than go further to the correctional service, a lot of this drugdealers are controlled out of the inmates bosses, after that go further into the families of the gangmembers, change the law and and root out the gangs!! Control the schooles and take tuffer actions against them who does'nt obey the rules of the sociaty. I mean not the little pitty once go on to the roots of the big once on top of the chane!! That would be a start.

  • stompies.hattingh.5 - 2012-07-10 15:49

    Manuel for Prez

  • jake.neumann.35 - 2012-07-10 15:53

    So why then is Helen Zille accused of polticising the fight against gangsterism when she asks for the SANDF to be deployed in specific townships where drugs are the main cause for so much misery? Please make up your bloody minds mr Manual & co.

      fussed.anderson - 2012-07-10 17:00

      The SADF would have done a better job

  • rob.gunning.1 - 2012-07-10 15:54

    No Mr. Manuel with all due respect, What stands between many South Africans and a better life is..... Government

  • ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-07-10 15:55

    The police must get the dealers. Informers get shot as is happening daily in Cape Town. Problem is that many cops are on the take from the dealers.

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-07-10 15:59

    Oh another 'profound' yet completely useless and meaningless statement from our friends the ANC. Yes Trevor, now reveal to us your outstanding plan to achieve this, or is it once again big talk no action.

  • kimsaiyanprincess.murison - 2012-07-10 16:07

    - The problem is not drug dealers, it is the people who use. if there were no drug dealers, people would still fins ways of getting high. Why are some people users and others, who have been exposed to the same social ills and live in the same street, not? The problem lies with the innate weakness in certain individuals who need a chemical fix for mental/emotional/physical problems.

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-07-10 16:42

      did you auto like your own comment?

      sachasea - 2012-07-10 17:08

      I think it is important to distinguish between drug USE and drug ABUSE. Millions of people around the world USE drugs (legal and illegal) responsibly for recreational reasons and manage not to precipitate any or much ill effect. Those who ABUSE drugs be it heroin addicts or alcoholics are on the whole in the minority. These are the people who desperately need the help that the government currently deny them. A fresh Legalize and Regulate approach would minimize harm to both USERS and ABUSERS while benefiting society by reducing crime and providing taxes. Other countries around the world like Colombia, Uruguay and Mexico are starting to take steps towards this end. It is at the very least time for South Africa to follow suit if we cannot be a leader on this issue.

      sachasea - 2012-07-11 00:13

      Why on earth can't we South Africans do something sensible like this??

  • Hugo - 2012-07-10 16:08

    this are the people who can mobilize the flats community to rise up against the gangs,not Zille.She does not have street creds.

      Francois - 2012-07-10 16:31

      Hey Hugo, what's with the AK as profile pic? Not appropriate is it?

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-07-10 16:44

      and you no clue of how to spell "credibility" i find that more of an insult. But then again you have a gun as your profile picture so no reasoning here.

  • sachasea - 2012-07-10 16:11

    Manuel I'm afraid to say you're a fool if you think targeting drug dealers is going to stop drug abuse. In much the same way that it is fighting a losing battle to apprehend and convict Vietnamese and Chinese nationals guilty of poaching our precious rhino unless we can also reduce the demand for ivory in those countries we need to focus on reducing demand for drugs not just targeting the suppliers. Politicians seem to be very narrow minded on these issues. They seek to treat the symptoms instead of trying to find an actual solution to the problem. What an utter waste of time, money and human potential.

      sachasea - 2012-07-10 21:18

      Looks like now even the Americans, historically Prohibition's staunchest supporters, are starting to be critical of the failings and looking for alternatives to the War Against Drugs. Very interesting article from the Huffington Post:

      myrtle.clarke.9 - 2012-07-11 09:09

      Yours is the only voice of reason on this page, thanks!

  • Allan - 2012-07-10 16:17

    Drug abuse is growing at an alarming rate due mainly to social economic reasons like unemployment, corruption, immigration etc. all those things that are the domain of government. So Mr Manuel if its growing it is a clear indication that government is not working. Where is the plan of action or is there once again NO plan?

  • kobus.oosthuizen.58 - 2012-07-10 16:28

    why does no one in government speak out about farm killings??? sort out corruption, violent crime, farm murders, lack education FIRST. then maybe you should consider fixing a problem which seems very low priority compared to the above mentioned. these self serving officials will look far and wide for issues that need solving , when the biggest challenges are completely overlooked.

  • - 2012-07-10 16:31

    Mr. Minister you are stating the obvious. Every parent knows this - or should knoe it - but how do you root out this scum when the government itself is more corrupt that your average South American drug baron, when law-enforcement themselves are up to their necks in drug-dealing, when the borders to the country is leaking worse than a second-hand sieve? You, the government, should have the answers, you shouls have plans end alternates in place. But yet again you have been caught with your pants around your ankles. You cannot get away from a problem that you yourselves perpetuated in the name of liberation - the country is now payng for the favours that you, the ANC, bought in the name of liberation. And what is more, the people sitting around you in the ANC and in parliament are as involved as anything - just ask our dear Minister of Intelligence, Mr Cwele, how it came that his own wife was involved yet he seemed to be totally oblivious of the fact

  • winnie.september - 2012-07-10 16:32

    Just how are we going to stop this? when..............

  • truthis.tway - 2012-07-10 16:40

    Legalise drugs,with certain conditions. This will reduce the price making it less attractive for dealers, as well as more affordable for addicts, therefore reducing associated crimes such as theft and prostitution.

      jenna.mathews.108 - 2012-07-11 07:37

      That won't work. Look at Holland. The number of drug addicts there is chilling, to say the least.

      daan.vandenberg.773 - 2012-07-11 08:27

      Hey Dude. Stop Dreaming! Wake-Up & Smell the $hit around you. WE MUST GET RID OF THE SUPPLY LINE.

  • petrofect - 2012-07-10 16:47

    why dont Manuel become the next Mandela (proper President), it's been a while Mzansi not having a well state man

  • petrofect - 2012-07-10 16:47

    why dont Manuel become the next Mandela (proper President), it's been a while Mzansi not having a well state man

  • serame.seleki.3 - 2012-07-10 16:49

    Get Rid of Pupil like GLEN AGLIOTTI first..they are publicly known lords that benefit from the control on the trade..first get him out then we could talk and move foward as a country..

  • paulroberts007 - 2012-07-10 17:01

    Drugs are killing South Africans of all races and creeds. The government needs to take a hardline. Send in the army. Gangs are a huge vehicle for trafficing drugs. Also not all Nigerians are drug dealers, many are contributing to our economy in a healthy above board way.

  • Cuteandbronzed - 2012-07-10 17:33

    GET RID OF NIGERIAN PEOPEL I HATE THEM WITH ALL MY MIGHT. Id rathet deal with past issues the niggies! I hate them

      Happy Holiday - 2012-07-10 18:42

      u left out 'poor' from ur name cos its obvious that u r one of all those spiteful lazy ass that hate on ppl that work harder n live better than u in ur own country. keep waiting 4 handouts

  • canna.binoid.1 - 2012-07-10 18:00 "Escalation of the war on drugs is the wrong response, however; drug prohibition is the cause of the violence. Prohibition creates violence because it drives the drug market underground. This means buyers and sellers cannot resolve their disputes with lawsuits, arbitration or advertising, so they resort to violence instead. Violence was common in the alcohol industry when it was banned during Prohibition, but not before or after. Violence is the norm in illicit gambling markets but not in legal ones. Violence is routine when prostitution is banned but not when it's permitted. Violence results from policies that create black markets, not from the characteristics of the good or activity in question."

      myrtle.clarke.9 - 2012-07-11 09:07

      Exactly! Great to see your comment here. You and "Tree Spirit" are the only ones speaking any sense on this page. This article has inspired us to add Trevor Manuel to the list of people to go and see personally. Thanks,

  • adrian.strydom - 2012-07-10 18:31

    This is a joke.....I reported a drug dealer to Crime Line 5 years ago....I even gave them his phone number. The result ? Absolutely NOTHING ! All the police in my area know him, and they admit it. What do they do ? NOTHING ! He is operating with impunity, and now he has ruined my son's life !

  • Phillip - 2012-07-10 18:41

    Since the national vocation clearly is words without action, let me add another two for you, Trev; (1) G*L*E*N and (2) A*G*L*I*O*T*T*I.

  • arne.verhoef - 2012-07-10 19:15


      sachasea - 2012-07-10 19:50


  • maredi.mello.75 - 2012-07-10 20:58

    Get rid of all the bloody Nigerians and Pakistanis, and while we are at it send the Zimbabwens across the border as well. they have overstayed their welcome.

  • brian.bogus.9 - 2012-07-11 03:03

    If you want to stop the drug trade in SA start at the top by stopping the goverment officials who run it.

  • nspaynter - 2012-07-11 05:45

    Get together with Helen Zille, Patricia de Lille and the DA. That's what thy want for the Western Cape.....

  • nspaynter - 2012-07-11 05:48

    "Can we mobilise South Africans across the country... can we make a call on people to identify the drug dealers?" he said in Johannesburg. Yes, Juan Smith who operates in the Paarl/Wellington and strand/Somerset West/Stellenbosch areas. He's in Pollsmore at the moment but he's trying to get out on bail.

      nspaynter - 2012-07-11 05:52

      nspaynter - 2012-07-11 06:07

      Another dealer: Clayton in Kylemore

  • jenna.mathews.108 - 2012-07-11 07:34

    Reading some of these comments (NOT all) and wow no wonder our country is were it's at. Such hatred, backward thinking and blatant ignorance. Basically, what 'henk.jansevanrensburg.16' is saying is that corrupt governments are the reason for drug use/mules. *In a condescending tone* According to your theory, GENIUS, USA, NZ, Holland, France, Germany, etc all have corrupt governments - WORSE than South Africa - because they are the world leaders in drug use? Get your ignorant head out your bottom and stop blaming the government for everything. Corruption plays a huge part in all but this is bigger than our government. Trust me. By just 'stopping' this we would hurt the world drug trade industry. You can't just do that to a R2,58 TRILLION industry. Do you even understand how big this industry is, this industry that contributed 0.5% of South Africa's GDP two years ago? Ignorant. We need to start from the bottom. Educate our children in schools, universities, etc. Show them the consequences of drug use, inform them (and adults). Implement community outreach problems, if the government won't do anything. It's easy to chat-chat-chat and turn the blind eye, let's actually do something for a change!

  • gareth.reynecke - 2012-07-11 08:19

    if we followed what Portugal did 10 years ago we could solve this problem. drug users are not criminals they are people with problems, its not fair that they get arrested and people addicted to prescription medication and alcohol walk free. Drug addicts should be treated not arrested! If drugs where decriminalized we could set up clinics to help people who use drugs do so in a safe clean environment with personnel who can educate and help the addicts start working on a better life. Instead we arrest them, send them to jail where they become harder criminals and we wonder why crime stats never come down. This would also free the police to concentrate on harder crimes as well as TAKING THE MONEY AWAY from drug dealers and organized crime syndicates. Lets starts educating ourselves, ignorance about drugs is still ignorance and in 2012 there is no excuses for ignorance

      sachasea - 2012-07-11 08:36

  • daan.vandenberg.773 - 2012-07-11 08:24

    Slow down guys. Stop critisising EVERYTHING the cANCer does. This is probably the "wises words" we heard in a long time. I just returned from 2 weeks in Thailand. Plenty drinking holes. Plenty Night Clubs. NO DRUGS !!!~ You know why? They don't take $hit from drug runners. They hang them. Full Stop!!!!

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