Rubber and real bullets fly in Kwadakuza

2011-06-08 23:19

KwaDukuza - Two people who died during protests over fare increases in KwaDukuza were killed by live bullets, the police said on Wednesday.

"It has emerged that they were not killed by rubber bullets, as reported, but real bullets," said Director Phindile Radebe.

She said police were investigating allegations that the were killed by security guards hired by taxi associations.

"The Independent Complaints Directorate (ICD) is also investigating," she said.

Police commissioner General Bheki Cele was meeting with taxi associations in KwaDukuza on Wednesday in an attempt to end to the protests over fare increases.

The protests started on Monday when taxi fares went up from R4.50 to R7. Protesters said they could not afford the new fare.

"We want them to increase it by 50 cents. That is what we can afford," said Nomusa Dlamini.

She said the increase was unfair because taxi operators did not have the capacity to transport the community.

Busses better

"They decided to kick out the buses a few years ago and now they [are] unable to transport us. We have to wait far too long before we get taxis in the mornings and afternoons," she said.

The bus fares were also reasonable, she said.

Scores of police officers and a police helicopter, monitored the situation in the area on Wednesday.

The R102 between the Shakaskraal and Gledhow off-ramps remained closed to traffic.

On Wednesday, municipal workers removed burnt tyres and other objects left by the protesters.

Locals were forced to walk to their destinations as no taxis were running.

During the protests, two cars, a truck and a police officer's home were torched. Police rescued the occupants of the truck, but failed to save the furniture and paint it was carrying.

The Wednesday meeting began at 10:00. By 17:00, no solution had been found.

It was attended by the department of transport and safety and community liaison officials.

"There are proposals on the table. We are optimistic that we will soon reach an agreement," said provincial safety and community liaison department spokesperson Kwanele Ncalane.

  • BigMoose - 2011-06-09 06:45

    Vote for the ANC. We will fix the problems after the elections.

      Felix - 2011-06-09 08:50

      Seems they meant 'we will fix you if you have a problem'...

      Hardtail - 2011-06-09 09:03

      Vote for the ANC, after the elections, you can riot, burn and kill, and we will ask you to vote again for us in four always, you get the services you voted for, too late to cry now...enjoy...

  • 1gascan - 2011-06-09 06:52

    My ANC, My ANC, My ANC... Keep singing it guys! You get what you vote for!!!! Enjoy for the next 5 years sheeple!

  • lordwabbitspam - 2011-06-09 06:59

    Taxi's should be nationalised. The only reason they drive like reckless drunken @holes is because of the need to make more trips to make more money. If the drivers got a salary instead (with healthcare and all the usual modcons) the need to drive recklessly would fall away. Then when a new rapid bus transport initiative got tabled no one would riot and it could go ahead for the benifit of all, not just the fat cat gangsta taxi owners.

      1gascan - 2011-06-09 07:08

      Well, that is the problem right there - how do you decide salaries etc? These guys are earning way too much dosh, and would probably laugh at the idea of getting a flat-rate salary - that would most likely be much lower than what they are getting on a commission basis. Flat salaries means that the fat cats will get a "capped" amount too, and this is not good enough for them - its all about greed. Besides, they don't care about life, so they will continue to be reckless in any event. Also, don't forget that there are different taxi associations that are down each others' throats every day - to have them work in harmony earning the same money is near impossible I would think! In the perfect world I would agree with you 100%, but unfortunately it will not work here with these guys.

      GTA_Lad - 2011-06-09 07:18

      At least if they got salaries they'd be paying tax and not sponging off the rest of us

      tkotze - 2011-06-09 07:28

      Although I don't have facts I understood that taxi drivers only get out about R5000-R10000 per month since they have a quota to fill which must go to the bosses. I am also all for nationalisation of taxi, the one industry in SA where I would support nationalisation. It will solve the taxi violence due to routes, it will solve the taxi bosses which are equivalent to gangster bosses, it will solve the tax invasion, it will make it much saver for the commuters and it will solve the road-rage caused by taxis driving like maniacs with no respect for the law. The one problem... The government is probably too scared to what could happen if they try it.

      1gascan - 2011-06-09 07:41

      100% GTA_Lad - agree fully with you. But how many South Africans (as we speak) pay taxes? If more contributed, surely the tax rate would drop proportionately? tkotze - I also heard something along those lines, but wasn't sure that it was as low as that - sjoe! Agree with your comments, but I think we all know the reasons for government not getting involved: 1. They subsidize the taxi's 2. The fat cats pay government to "do nothing" 3. If government had to nationalise the taxi's, where would this "income" from the taxi bosses come from? I think this whole thing is more than just "dishing out salaries" - the government is neck-deep in the poo with this one (as with most things)... Just my thoughts anyway.

      p - 2011-06-09 08:18

      The big reason that the taxi industry is so against regulation is that all transactions that occur on a daily basis are UNTAXED and as result there is a huge income going to the taxi owners that is untaxed. Regulation will force the thousands of day to day transactions to be recorded and thus they will be liable for tax. Nationalization (and thus regulation) will make the taxi industry accountable to government, and one hopes, liable to the laws and taxation that big business is obliged to follow.

      Hardtail - 2011-06-09 09:05

      Nationalise the Taxi Industry? Laughable! tax them? HOW? you guys are in cloud cuckoo land...the taxi organisations are a law unto themselves, they care nothing for the people they transport, and care less for any goverment intervention. I would however, LOVE to see the goverment try!....

      amdisgusted - 2011-06-09 10:30

      The worst of all of this is that none of the taxi industry - owners, drivers, etc - do not pay tax for anything! Where's 'sushimal - grootbek malema' now to call for nationalisation. Or does he only do it when there is money in it for him!

  • Sledgedarkwatch - 2011-06-09 07:16

    Honestly - a certain race needs at least another 1000 years to evolve cause you cannot have the future when your physical and mental being lacks years behind.

      Gary - 2011-06-09 07:54

      dude, that is just a dumbass remark.....

      jds - 2011-06-09 08:56

      stop commenting racist remarks, not doing anyone or anything any good!

  • dotty_01 - 2011-06-09 07:24

    I would like to make an annoucement: APARTHEID is OVER. We now live in a democratic society where savage behaviour like this is not necessary. You silly people voted for the ANC, now live with it and enjoy the fruits of the non-white rule!!!!! You wanted a society which gave you equal rights. Now it is your turn to behave like responsible citizens and channel your anger in a more respectable manner.

      NO-BULL - 2011-06-09 09:05

      I didn't vote for the ANC. Why must I suffer under their racism? Apartheid is over like my ass being made of solid gold. The only thing that is over is the USE of the word apartheid and common law and order

      Hardtail - 2011-06-09 09:07

      YOu think? LMAO...the ANC, during the sixties, seventies and eighties, encouraged this behaviour under the masses...they taught them to loot, riot, and are now reaping the fruits of that ... a liberation movement, makes for the worst kind of goverment...

  • LagUTroll - 2011-06-09 07:46

    I feel for the communters in this, thats a 50% increase in travel cost. The RBT in Capetown is really a marvel to witness, but limited to small inner city and unforuntally the taxis will never allow such systems to completely take over.

  • Gary - 2011-06-09 07:55

    nooooooooooooo surprise here....remove the competition and then force the public to take taxi's......

  • Smaal - 2011-06-09 08:23

    Petrol goes up, I don’t have any say in that. Food goes up, I don’t have any say in that. The government tax me more, I don’t have any say in that. I will have to pay for NHI, I don’t have any say in that. I have to pay property tax and for services even if the services aren’t rendered, I don’t have any say in that. I have to pay vehicle licensing fees and toll road fees, I don’t have any say in that. When I get robed my insurance goes up, I don’t have any say in that ... and the list goes on so what makes the people of KwaDukuza so special? Why should you be treated any differently then I’m treated? Oh right, they are oppressed – now by their own taxi mafia (who don’t pay tax) so now they burn, break, throw rocks at the cops and disrupts other peoples lives. Nice!

      Enigma - 2011-06-09 08:57

      Smaal you can be areal jerk ass.

      Smaal - 2011-06-09 09:09

      Yes Enigma I am but better to scream it from the rooftops then to make nice and pretend like everything is ok. P.S. Maybe you can enlighten me to why when “the people” get upset they burn, break and destroy public property not to mention disrupting other peoples lives that sometimes boils down to intimidating and attacking their own neighbours. One more thing, who do you think pays to clean up the mess, fix everything and get everything back to working order?

      Hardtail - 2011-06-09 09:09

      he is so right though enigma...that is what most people like you fail to realise, that most taxpayers, pay all of these taxes. we do not, like the people under discussion here, have the luxury of rioting, or not paying taxes...we are forced to. and we have no recourse to follow. none.

  • NO-BULL - 2011-06-09 09:08

    We don't want to pay R7 for a Taxi, we want to dictate how much fares go up by. IF you don't do it our way we will set fire to homes and passing vehicles and don't give a damn about who we kill in the process... Tell me, why do we even CARE about what these people (and I use the term loosely) think? F*ck em! Murderous swine having a hard time. They will probably just use this as another excuse to go murder and steal and burn down something else anyways.

      Smaal - 2011-06-09 09:15

      ... and then claim to be the “victims”

  • Kevin King - 2011-06-09 11:42

    Tell me Zizo, Polio, Kolobe, Half-wit, Prev-Abused etc, why are white people complaining about this, they are not directly affected by this? Why are you not complaining?

  • Larro - 2011-06-09 11:46

    So KwaDukuza residents, how IS that ANC government going for you?

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