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Rural upliftment project fails

2012-10-11 10:45

Johannesburg - A R500 000 vegetable-growing project aimed at providing food and jobs for one of the poorest areas in the North West has failed, Beeld reported on Thursday.

Only one of the staff members originally tasked with looking after the project was still on the premises.

A few years ago, the Tosca project was one of six vegetable tunnel enterprises that the Dr Ruth Mompati municipality spent R3m on.

Kenny Ntshandase, municipal director of economic development, said the project and similar projects failed for several reasons.

"We provided the money for a start-up opportunity, with the aim being that the recipients would generate a profit, maintain the project and save a portion of the profits to reinvest and do the necessary repairs.

"These people just want salaries, but when they have to do the work, they aren't happy," he said.

After a storm destroyed the tunnels three years ago, there was no money available for repairs, as the project beneficiaries had been arguing amongst themselves about how profits would be shared.

Local resident Giel Theron, a former town council member, said part of the problem was a lack of mentorship, supervision, and expertise.

Comments
  • irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-11 10:49

    No surprises here. They don't want to do anything for themselves and expect everything to be given to them on a silver platter. Pathetic, and then they wonder why they will always live in poverty, always waiting for the free handout. I have no sympathy for these morons whatsoever.

      ettienne.hattingh - 2012-10-11 10:57

      You are so correct.

      danie.strydom.7 - 2012-10-11 11:08

      "These people just want salaries, but when they have to do the work, they aren't happy," he said. Roll on Africa

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-11 11:11

      Easier to rely on "All Pay", no work but get paid.

      aniken.vader.31 - 2012-10-11 11:14

      this and aurora are but a few examples of what will happen in a nationalized situation in South Africa! Cosatu's "An injury for one is an injury for all" should be replaced with this line: "These people just want salaries, but when they have to do the work, they aren't happy!"

      darryl.maze.5 - 2012-10-11 11:19

      So true Irene. If they cant even look after a small farming project like this how do they expect to look after a huge farm????? They just want everything given to them for free and are not willing to work and to help themselves. It's the African way.

      Desilusionada - 2012-10-11 11:23

      Irene, This post actually pre-empts an article I am thinking of publishing; however the point(s) am trying to make is/are: Is this manner in which this Golden Opportunity was handled, hard wired in black peoples' brain / psyche? The idea I am getting is that arguing about the profit (which had not even been made) at the expense of the project and the attendant advantages, is tantamount to gross stupidity? Surely that cannot be true? "part of the problem was a lack of mentorship, supervision, and expertise."(sic). Was this black or white people that did not mentor, supervise or pass on expertise? If they argued about future profits, then even if said services as per previous paragraph were made available, it would in all probability not been excepted. There are literally 1 000's (10 000's) of white people (that do not have a job, or were retrenched at great costs), who would be very happy to launch such or similar projects. Either as owners or mentors or both, with the attendant profits back to the recipients and tax into the Gov. pockets (albeit to waste THAT again!). I think that those kind of black people (and the Government is full of them), want to either rule with despotic, hegemony or want to sit and be ruled. As you are, I have lost all sympathy. Leo Buscaglia's mother said to him: "Starve!" You know what? THEY CAN STARVE! And those who do not want to must take the consequences. Or vote anti-ANC, stop blaming Apartheid, work hard and get rid of EE/BBBEE.

      desertratbkf - 2012-10-11 11:28

      Exactly! We WANT! We WANT! We DEEEMAAAND!!!!! And they hate foreign settlers, because theyre willing to WORK! This lot are to lazy to wipe their own arses!

      mart.botha - 2012-10-11 11:45

      You are 'spot on' Irene. Sometimes I think that some people get tired even trying to think for themselves. STOP GIVING is the only answer. There are winners and there are losers in life...if anyone tries to tell you otherwise they are lying to you, probably so that they may 'win' a situation. I am qualified to say this because I too am losing plenty and I didn't have much to start with in the 1st place.

      ahenriquesfernandes - 2012-10-11 12:03

      Whenever I read stories like this one, I am reminded of an interesting article I read a year or 2 ago about how Africa's biggest export is poverty and that since there is demand (hand outs or world aid) that there will always be people to supply it. Problem is here is SA we are too complacent and accept that this is just the way things are because of the past. The skill of laziness is taught just like the skill of production can be learnt. People just need to change their mindset.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-11 13:42

      @Jackie aka ignorant one ~ 'They' are the people who are too lazy to get off their backsides and do something for themselves when the opportunities have been handed to them on a silver platter. That is who 'THEY' are. Is that easy enough for you to understand? I typed this slowly because I know you battle and can't read fast ......

  • joseph.brooks.50309 - 2012-10-11 10:51

    "These people just want salaries, but when they have to do the work, they aren't happy," WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Always the case!!!!! HUGE salaries, but lazy as HELL.

  • darryl.scott.77770 - 2012-10-11 10:52

    What a bright future we have in SA

  • arthurenlouise.tarr - 2012-10-11 11:04

    I could have told you that long ago.... But Rather KILL THE Boer!!

  • Andrea - 2012-10-11 11:07

    Where do we begin? "These people just want salaries, but when they have to do the work, they aren't happy". Sounds like Govt to me. "The project beneficiaries had been arguing amongst themselves about how profits would be shared". Kill the goose before she can lay them golden eggs. "... part of the problem was a lack of mentorship, supervision, and expertise". The previous regime must be at fault, there is simply no other explanation. Exactly how much more do we have to spoonfeed?

  • sarecen.smith - 2012-10-11 11:08

    anc cadres cant even grow veggies.....maby weed is a better prospect

  • brian.connell.18 - 2012-10-11 11:09

    As a retired hydroponics farmer, I offered my services for projects like this as a mentor, hands-on manager, consultant etc. I was turned down - too old, too white. I have years of experience - about to be lost forever. Shame on you South Africa for not wanting help, for wanting all the profit, and for not listening to the voices of experience which SA has in abundance.

      daan.vandenberg.773 - 2012-10-11 11:21

      Brian, surely you mean: HAD in Abundance!

      denis.dendrinos - 2012-10-11 11:36

      but that's the problem Brian - in 1994 the anc had never run anything, but they were not about to listen to the only other people who had, for obvious reasons. And now we sit here in this mess all for the "we'll show you" attitude. Lekker - you really showed us! starving stomachs and all.

  • mario.dippenaar - 2012-10-11 11:09

    There are many similar failed projects as this one. 3-4 years ago the government just gave out money (once off) and land and the left it up the the occupants to make a success, but they only covered 3 of the 4 means of production, they have the land/minerals, the labour and capital, but no entrepreneurship. At least these days they are employing experianced farmers to act as mentors and guides. Transfering valuable skills and expertise. I should know both my brother and father are mentors.

  • beverly.young3 - 2012-10-11 11:15

    Oh boy, have I been down this road before???.......I would have charged them R50 for my research and results papers, to cover costs. No matter how charitable you are, you CANNOT GIVE ANYONE ANYTHING FOR FREE.........people have to earn things, it is pride, dignity, and satifaction, besides food. Bloody hell.........I get so angry, it is such a waste, and the only people who feel good are the morons who dish the money out. They can 'tick' off the box that says you gotta help.....I feel like lying down on the national raod and screaming!!!

  • shaun.knoesen.9 - 2012-10-11 11:27

    Any ANC supporters want to comment here? Anyone? Anyone? Maybe blame apartheid? Anyone? Anyone?

      sarecen.smith - 2012-10-11 13:38

      they just not used to planting veggies in straight lines.....

  • pierre.coetzee.7 - 2012-10-11 11:27

    Tipical New South Africa atitude!!! I demand the money but sorry, I dont work....

      beverly.young3 - 2012-10-11 12:17

      Nooooooooooo, sorry, its not that they dont want to work. It goes like this: a person?? in a suit comes along, calls a meeting of stakeholders (I know all the buzz-words)........they start on a 'high note' telling everyone that they will make money and have food. Great cheering....... Other suits take over, and seeds or someting are handed out. Tractors move in, plough up the land, and leave. NO provision is made for watering, or education into how to look after this land and its wares. I can go on and on......the 'stakeholders' pick the crops, do not weed, as they were not told to do so....and then the land goes back to nothing. Simplistically, this is the story. Oh, let us not forget their cattle who eat there, and passersby who help themselves. eish...... @mark.singh you are right, it is nothing compared to the R60 million per farm bought for them in the Cradock areas, but why??? I can answer that, it is beacuse the responsibility is handed down from the top, to uneducated 'suits' who only have their boxes to tick and eish over the failures...... no harm done ne? Bloody hell........

  • mark.singh.9889 - 2012-10-11 11:29

    R500k is a small project. Why do they insist on taking over farms (as part of land re-distribution)that cost millions to run.

  • denis.dendrinos - 2012-10-11 11:31

    Firstly R500 000 - is that all? We spend nearly R800 mil on Zuma's little retirement home but these starving people get R500 000? Secondly - as as always, we have a good idea with NO follow through. Why aren't these people trained and helped? It's the same for any farming/self care initiative or land re-distribution....you'll have to educate them, make sure they understand what and how. As for the fighting over profits - oh well........you can only do so much? Maybe next time setup a trust?

  • victor.windsor - 2012-10-11 11:31

    Look surprised !!!!!

  • terrence.schwartz.1 - 2012-10-11 11:35

    WE WANT R12500

  • chris.debeer1 - 2012-10-11 11:47

    Sad African Tale The ant works hard in the withering heat and the rain all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while he is cold and starving. CBS, NBC , PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so? In an interview with Larry King that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share. Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity & Anti-Grasshopper Act retroactive to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the Government GreenCzar and given to the grasshopper. The story ends as we see the grasshopper and his free-loading friends finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he is in, which, as you recall, just happens to be the ant's old house,crumbles around them because the grasshopper doesn't maintain it.

  • theodor.herzl.3 - 2012-10-11 11:52

    ...if any would not work, neither should he eat.

  • daniel.v.wyk - 2012-10-11 11:57

    If they can't maintain a tunnel how can they maintain a farm? People, we need education, like in YESTERDAY and urgently!

  • peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-10-11 11:57

    Wait..... this must be because of Aparthied?? Useless lazy fools!!

  • terrylee.heuer - 2012-10-11 11:58

    These people just want salaries, but when they have to do the work, they aren't happy,\ he said.....there it is right there they crying for land but don't want to do anything with it just really want to squat on it!!! Look what happened to the chicken farm Govt also gave this, but also fell flat the chickens ended up starving and eating one another the SPCA had to put them all down. There are many similar stories but we just don't always hear of them!! Farming is a business and education is key to any business!!

      croix.mactee - 2012-10-11 12:17

      And the willingness to get off your butt is almost THE most important aspect of any enterprise.

  • darryl.maze.5 - 2012-10-11 12:04

    They just want want want! Demand demand demand but they are not will to work for it and we can blame the ANC government for that because they promised there voters that everything would be given to them for free. Well I got bad news for all you ANC voters, NOTHING IS FOR FREE!!!! You all want big fat salaries but you not will to work hard for it. As for the guys in charge of the project how can you argue about a profit when you havent even planted. It seems that that is all you have on your mind is money. Thank GOD white farmers are still here, because we would all be starving. If these BBEEEE farm projects cant handle a small piece of farming land how they gonna handle massive farm lands????

  • khathu.rasi - 2012-10-11 12:51

    Jah i must say, We black people are lazy, we only want want, but we dont want work work, why? Ive never hear a white man saying i want want, why? A white man want want and work work. My felow blcks plz work work then want want, mxm embarrassed. Ill start by me

  • braamc - 2012-10-11 13:05

    Local resident Giel Theron, a former town council member, said part of the problem was a lack of mentorship, supervision, and expertise. - There is a surprise, like everythig else

  • lumsele - 2012-10-11 13:47

    Am sure these fools know someone within that department that handed the project to them. Such a pity that those people who are hungry to contribute positively in our society are not afforded such opportuniries because of official that reserve these resouces to their friends and families.

  • jaun.lombard.9 - 2012-10-11 14:22

    I want...you give NOW!!

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-10-11 15:13

    This is a problem with many of these projects, people beg for the start up money, claiming their poverty, but very seldom get the work done when they are given it, instead they pay themselves enormous salaries until the money runs out, and every body in any scheme is always the boss. They must get this modus operandi from the ANC.

  • deon.louw.7505 - 2012-10-11 16:08

    It sounds like some miners. "When they have to do the work they are unhappy".

      Gemma van der Merwe - 2012-10-11 19:48

      Is it safe to assume that you have spent a considerable amount of time underground yourself, Deon?

  • esme.collins1 - 2012-10-11 16:23

    Why should there be a mentorship, supervision or expertise? You are not dealing with children!!

  • RudiErnst - 2012-10-11 18:07

    Just another day in South Africa... nothing new here, sadly.

  • corlieels.mynhardt - 2012-10-11 22:45

    This is the new farmers of SA. Give them a piece if land, they will screw it up! But still they want land....for what I'm wondering? The future food producers.....

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