SA considering Dalai Lama visa - minister

2011-09-13 15:35

Cape Town - South Africa is considering a visa request from the Dalai Lama, the government said on Tuesday, two years after refusing entry to the Tibetan exiled spiritual leader over fears of angering China.

"Our mission in New Delhi has received a visa application from his holiness the Dalai Lama and, like all other high profile or ordinary visa applications, this application is under process," said International Relations Minister Maite Nkoana-Mashabane.

"That's how much I can say for now about the application."

Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu has invited the Dalai Lama, a friend and fellow Nobel Peace Prize laureate, to his 80th birthday celebrations next month after South Africa earlier had barred a visit as it did not want to jeopardise ties with Beijing.

Last week, Tutu said the government will "shoot themselves in the foot" if the request was again refused.

"I mean it's so sad to think that we have had a kind of experience of repression that we have had in that we should want to kowtow to a hugely repressive regime that can dictate to us about freedom and things of that kind," he told a local newspaper.

"For oldies like just gives us a sadness," he added.

The Dalai Lama is due to give an inaugural peace lecture as part of events to mark Tutu's October 7 birthday.

In 2009 Tutu criticised the decision to bar entry to the Dalai Lama to attend a peace conference in Johannesburg, which Nkoana-Mashabane later described as poor communication and said he was welcome to visit South Africa.

The Tibetan has lived in exile in India since 1959 when he fled an abortive uprising against Chinese rule in Tibet.

He says he wants better treatment for Tibetans and accepts Chinese rule, but Beijing accuses him of being a "splittist" and opposes his regular meetings with foreign leaders.

  • newsyman - 2011-09-13 15:42

    Our relationship with China is far more important that our relationship with the Dalai Lama, hopefully it will be refused.

      Albo - 2011-09-13 15:49

      If China said "jump in the fire......."??

      newsyman - 2011-09-13 15:51

      Our best plan of action would be to hop on into the fire!

      willieman - 2011-09-13 15:53

      South Africa is a very interesting country,the Chinese rule us forget about the black majority rule.Textile factories are closed in the western cape ,Natal,Bloemfontein,Babelegi we are happy with the status quo.The Chinese built a massive embassy in pretoria without employing even a single soul from this country.They imported labour,material every thing from their country and yet we still happy.By the way what about the Rugby jerseys.It is ggod ne!!

      JMan - 2011-09-13 15:56

      F..K China.

      Ngqeku - 2011-09-13 16:01

      The Dalai Lama will be here. Can't wait for my old mate,we'll have fun in the Archbishop's party

      MaanDonkie - 2011-09-13 16:08

      Shame man gee vir die dominee uit die ooste n dompas! Miskien kan hy vir die wetters in parlement bietjie kom wysheid inpraat....mind you dan sal hulle vir hom moet burgerskap gee...gaan hom moerse lank vat om dit reg te kry.

      muk - 2011-09-13 16:12

      @newsyman. Open your eyes. This is called modern day slavery. A slave will not go against his master 'cos he will not be fed. This is your logic.

      frans.visserdsb - 2011-09-13 16:14

      We allow dictators like aristede and Ghaddafi into our country, evenwelcome them with open arms... yet refuse the Dalai Lama a visa? Chinese capital is a double edged sword... China is very clever - they lend you the money to do a project... on the condition that you use a chinese contractor to do the job. They then bring every single person that is necessary to do the job, and spend a minimal amount in the country, and leave you with a sub-standard job that you owe a fortune on. Seen this done on a number of projects in Africa... They are also masters at buying up resources - even buying the mines - and exporting the raw material, beneficiatingit and selling the products back to you... You are only their friend as long as it suits them.

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-09-13 16:18

      Chinese crap being offloaded on our shores by the ton....but we refuse entry to the Dalai Lama...eish..

      Succubus - 2011-09-13 16:22

      Its amusing how Africans naturally submit to a master somewhere, anywhere, as long as there is some one who can think for them. This is why all of Africa is subordinate to the rest of the world by default. Contrary to popular belief, this country does not suffer from a racial divide, it suffers a divide of enlightenment. Enlightened black and white people just trying to build a life for them selves, burdened with the plague of mindless unenlightened masses, whose actions and thoughts perpetuate their own self imposed misery and perpetual poverty. If this country is wise, it will invite the Dalai Lama with open arms, and 'listen' to what he has to teach.

      letsee - 2011-09-13 16:51

      Well, I bet that the people of South Africa would like to hear the Dalai Lama and that is greater than China. OR Do you mean that we must not give VISAs to people that preach peace and VIVA MALEMA?

      cliffarc - 2011-09-13 16:57

      - And of course the Anc would have no problem granting a visa to any despotic, murdering, corrupt leader - Gaddafi,Mugabe, Castro - - -

  • Pixie1984 - 2011-09-13 15:42

    "over fears of angering China".. Aren't we supposed to decline visa's to people WE don't want in OUR country?

      Boerseun - 2011-09-13 16:21

      @Lacoste: How ironic.. This coming from someone with the name Lacoste...

      Pixie1984 - 2011-09-13 16:28

      @Lacoste miserable thinking, really. Then to avoid annoying anyone, why dont we get other countries that we trade with to run our country while we are at it? Our government is a bunch of grovelling kiss-asses then.

  • Fraudsters - 2011-09-13 15:43

    just give the man a visa or you scared China will cut their fong kong supplies.

  • ChrisKhoza - 2011-09-13 15:44

    What's at stake here regarding this application. What impact will the government's decision (accepting/declining the visa) have on us as citizens of the Republic?

      GypseyAnn - 2011-09-13 15:52

      Chris - I think at the age of 80 the Archbishop knows who he would like to attend his party and he should be allowed to invite whomsoever he wants. It actually has NOTHING to do with anyone!

      Pixie1984 - 2011-09-13 16:30

      China is going to be sulking in the corner and snatch it's toys away from us.

  • ChumScrubber - 2011-09-13 15:46

    How noble of the government. Hope they give poor old Gaddafi a visa so the poor persecuted soul can come here to escape persecution by his annoying populace. This is what its going to be like now that the world is China's bitch.

      newsyman - 2011-09-13 15:48

      China is a strtegic partner, the key to a shift in global power. Thats the story bumscrubber

      ChumScrubber - 2011-09-14 06:33

      Ah come on newsyman, try to be a bit more original with the use of my name. I made 75% of my income this year exporting to the Chinese, 90% of what we buy is made in China - so no arguments about their economic power. However, to justify our previously oppressed regime denying a currently oppressed leader a VISA into our country. Thats just weak and immoral, surely our current regime has more guts and morals than that? Silly of me - I know the answer - they don't have any of the above. Revolting bunch.

  • GypseyAnn - 2011-09-13 15:50

    Get over yourselves ANC - let the Arch have his esteemed guest at his birthday party. Do not let China tell you how to run the country!

  • Tassenberg - 2011-09-13 15:51

    It's actually ironic when you think about it, a government that fought for freedom for all because some of their people was exiled, doesn't want someone who is also an exile come to their country, because they are scared of relations with some another country. I thought they would be able to relate to the Dalai Lama's predicament, yet now they also see what predicaments the previous government had. Yep money and cheap labour surely talks, and in SA we are actually losing more jobs in the textile industry due to cheap imports from China.

  • Daveza - 2011-09-13 15:54

    What the hell is there to consider ? Do we 'consider' allowing scum like Mugabe into our country ? The Dalai Lama is a man of peace - show some spine you cringing sissies and tell the Chinese to stay out of our affairs.

      Pixie1984 - 2011-09-13 16:31

      your point Lacoste? Our government is spending too much time pleasing other countries and not pleasing it's own citizens.

      Aleg - 2011-09-13 17:31

      @Lacoste Zimbabwe buys petrol and electricity from South Africa at a cheaper price than what we South African citizens pay. The Dalai Lama is a man of peace, and goodness, with the present war-mongering rhetoric from certain factions in our country propagating murder and causing divisions amongst our nation, South Africa needs more men of peace than any cheap imports that have taken away jobs and left thousands of our citizens unemployed. How sad that South Africa allows fugitives from justice, like the Czech Radovan Krejcir, Vito Palozzolo from Italy, General Faustin Kayumba from Rwanda, Jean Claude LaCote from France, etc., entry into South Africa and allows them to live here freely, yet refuse someone like the Dalai Lama to visit.

  • Lab-Rat - 2011-09-13 15:56

    If I were the Dalai Lama, I would politely extend my middle finger to the SA government.

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  • sarecen - 2011-09-13 16:07

    SO funny our Anc is so against the west colonial imperialistic forces, but keen to follow and heed there masters in the east

  • Comrade Mike - 2011-09-13 16:11

    We won't grant the Visa, all in all we're just another BRIC in the wall!

  • andrew - 2011-09-13 16:11

    the ANC have sold out my country to China for a few pieces of silver!!!! How ironic that this supposedly great "liberation" movement now cow-tow to one of the biggest abusers of human rights on the planet!!!!The Dalai Lama is one of the greatest freedom fighters today and these ANC scum grovel to do their yellow masters bidding!!!!

  • Thingamebob - 2011-09-13 16:18

    Our boss, Chinja will not allow it and Zuma has the backbone of a jelly fish

  • thundacat - 2011-09-13 16:19

    F**K China...Let the man roam the earth..

  • nn.prv - 2011-09-13 16:27

    Who's this guy??

  • stephen scott - 2011-09-13 16:27

    Considering it! F&*k!, one of the worlds ambassadors of peace, on a par with Mandela, the whole country’s riddle with crime, from the top down , and were considering him for a visa,

  • Vullis - 2011-09-13 16:35

    Why is everything always being considered or investigated?

      vasti - 2011-09-13 17:07

      or studied?

  • JustinD - 2011-09-13 16:36

    Heaven forbid we upset our slanty eyed parasite friends....our gov is useless on most fronts.

  • Anton - 2011-09-13 16:37

    Disgusting that a Government that had to fight for freedom is reluctant to let someone in who is doing the same. Shame on you ANC, you are revolting.

      halfbee - 2011-09-13 17:55

      Anton, the Government is so spineless and insecure they fear that the Dalai will turn the Arch's birthday party into a revoultion against them.... What a bunch of wankers.....

  • national - 2011-09-13 16:52

    China has I.I billion people, we 46 million, they will have us for dinner if our government is asleep ! The Dalai Lama is a great soul who wants peace for the world.

  • Verdade - 2011-09-13 17:22

    Strange, we allow other rubbish tyrants and fugitives in the corrupt country, but not this humble man! Just to goes to show the state of our government. Perhaps Chinese kick backs or bribes will dry up?

  • Brainbow - 2011-09-13 18:38

    Tutu, although retired, is still doing his amazing work. We are so fortunate to have him living and working amongst us!

  • nspaynter - 2011-09-13 21:26

    Wow! This is serious. If we allowed the visa China would be angry and stop all further exports of Springbok Rugby Jerseys into SA. Our Bok fans will really be in the soup. We had better get our local textile companies to start manufacturing rugby jerseys urgently just in case..... (And that can reverse some of the job losses we experienced last month)

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  • khafop - 2011-09-16 11:09

    Dont be forgetting chiness nationals in south africa are classified Black,u got to love yeah..NO ENTRY for you Your Holiness,Fong Kongs are more important for world peace.

  • Bruce Wells - 2011-09-16 19:50

    As long as the Dalai Lama agrees to have his handbag scanned the minister should have no problem

  • GREEN BEAN - 2011-09-27 09:49

    If the American Administration allows the Dalai Lama to visit Washington, why not give this man of peace a visa to visit South Africa ? Because South Africa is affraid of the BIG bully.

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