SA cops silent on Dewani rumours

2010-12-09 11:38

Johannesburg - South African police remained mum on Thursday as new rumours flew around about the Anni Dewani murder case, including claims that her husband had plotted another similar murder in South Africa.

"We definitely won't give information," said national police spokesperson Brigadier Sally de Beer, responding to a statement that had been made by the SA government's lawyer, Ben Watson.

He told the Westminster Magistrate's Court in England that the taxi driver, Zola Tonga, who had implicated Shrien Dewani in his wife's murder, also believed that Dewani had in the past arranged another murder in the country in similar circumstances, reported the UK-based Press Association.

Watson said Tonga got the impression that Dewani had been in South Africa before and that he had said he had previously arranged for someone to be killed in a fake hijacking in South Africa.

CCTV footage

But De Beer would not say anything about this, and neither did she want to comment on a report in the UK-based The Sun newspaper that the police had closed circuit television footage of Shrien Dewani paying the taxi driver a few days after the murder.

"We present our information as evidence in court. We really can't discuss it beforehand," said De Beer.

The Sun reported that footage from a camera at a posh Cape Town restaurant recorded a private meeting between Dewani and taxi driver Zola Tongo, who has implicated him in his wife's murder.

The report quoted an unnamed "police source in Cape Town" as saying: "Tongo's claim he was given money by Dewani after Anni's death is backed up in full colour on video.

"CCTV footage shows them meeting in a restaurant area of a hotel and Shrien Dewani hands money to the driver.

"This was days after Anni's body was found, at a time when Dewani was staying in the Cape Grace Hotel and being comforted by relatives."

De Beer said the police were not going to give the media a "blow-by-blow" update on the case, which is expected to come up in a UK High Court, possibly as soon as Thursday, where a more senior judge would review whether he should be granted bail.

Shrien Dewani was granted bail of £250 000 (about R2.7m) in the Westminster Magistrates' Court on Wednesday, but had to remain in custody after the South African government lodged appeal papers.

He is expected to be tried in South Africa.


De Beer said: "Probably, once the extradition is in place, the department of justice would make a statement."

Meanwhile, national police commissioner Bheki Cele reportedly said in Limpopo province on Wednesday that the Department of Justice was helping to fast-track the extradition process, which was "well under way".

In a clear reference to Dewani, Cele added, according to a report in The Star newspaper: "One monkey came from London to kill his wife here. He thought we South Africans were stupid. Don't kill people here."

Anni Dewani, 28, was shot dead last month as the honeymooning couple visited Cape Town's Gugulethu township.

Her 30-year-old husband claimed the hijackers had forced him out of the vehicle. Anni's body was found in the abandoned vehicle the next day, on Sunday, November 14.

But this week, her husband was arrested on suspicion of conspiring to murder her.

This came after the taxi driver made a plea bargain with the State and was sentenced by the Western Cape High Court to 18 years in jail for his part in the killing. Tonga told the court how he and Shrien had participated in a fake hijacking.

"The agreement was that after the hijacking of the vehicle, both Shrien Dewani and I would be ejected from the vehicle unharmed, after which the deceased would be kidnapped and robbed, before she was murdered," he said.

Two other people, Xolile Mnguni, 23, and Mziwamadoda Qwabe, 25, face charges of murder, aggravated robbery and kidnapping. They were expected to appear in court in February next year.

Dewani returned to England three days after the murder and denied any involvement in it.

  • tracy - 2010-12-09 11:43

    This is starting to sound like something out of a movie.

      ian.teall - 2010-12-09 12:27

      KILL THE DOG!!!!!

      Gazza - 2010-12-09 12:34

      This whole thing is a farce. Shoddy Police work. NPA that cannot win trials so makes deals instead. How can you arrest a man on hearsay? Only in this Bannana Republic where bribery and corruption go hand in hand with lies and deceit. What was the motive? No life insurance, no dowry. Why marry but not legally done so no payout of any kind. The driver is lying to save his own skin. Will serve 6 years at most in a low security holiday farm......

      Tieneke - 2010-12-09 12:57

      Hey Gazza, from which planet are you? High-JACKING = stealing of vehicle, by armed people, for the vehicle. Occupants are normally all ejected, unharmed, because they just want the vehicle. Or later ejected all killed. Whats this.....driver gets dumped, unharmed, hubby gets dumped- unharmed, not a scratch, not even trying to protect his beautiful wife. Then the vehicle is found - was this not a hi-jacking????? With thwe dead wife inside, not abused, not raped just shot....... WHY DID THIS HI-JACKING happen again, refresh my memory PLEASE!

  • tracy - 2010-12-09 11:44

    This is starting to sound like something out of a movie.

  • Zoolie - 2010-12-09 11:50

    Can this story get anymore twisted......

  • Maryna123 - 2010-12-09 11:56

    And the plot thickens...

      Utossa - 2010-12-09 12:08

      This is getting hotter than a vindaloo curry !

  • courage22 - 2010-12-09 12:01

    Can someone tell me what would be his motive?

      devils-adv - 2010-12-09 12:19

      His business interests are heavily in debt and he may have done it for the insurance. No mention yet on how much the insurance is worth though.

      sailight - 2010-12-09 12:35

      dying to know what the motive is - surely that is the starting point

      Dave - 2010-12-09 12:56

      Let's get something straight. The facts are : The Dewali family business has 70 M pounds fixed assets and 4.5 M debt to banks. Very healthy and not exactly insolvent. Money was not a motive. The poor woman had no life insurance. I read somewhere that 90% South Africans think Dewani guilty - on only the evidence in a Plea Bargain of a convicted and sentenced murderer. These 3 thugs will say anything for a lighter sentence. Or........are they being told what to say???

      stanleytowani - 2010-12-09 12:58

      They did not seat together on the plane. The wife was crying. I suspect she was unfaithful. And the guy probably discovered just before wedding or she told him.

      Stollie - 2010-12-09 13:15

      @stanleytowani You're a moron

      olivia936 - 2010-12-09 13:16

      Dewani had has a motive, why do you go out of the country when you wife was murdered. Would you not make sure the perpertrators was caught? Does it make sense. Why does he come forward now and say he wants to clear his name...Stupid idiot, he got caught red handed...

      ILOVEME - 2010-12-09 13:27

      Do serial killers have motives? maybe he is just a sick physco

      Jannie24 - 2010-12-09 14:40

      None can give you a motive. It is crap that the business suffer as so many say. All this is speculation? Go google his place of origin - you will see his "tribe" do this for centuries already - we here think its new but know nothing of their heritage.

  • courage22 - 2010-12-09 12:02

    What would be his motive for the killing?

      jai.strauss - 2010-12-09 12:41

      As a member of the Me Generation, he decided to end his link with Anni because he thought getting married to his previous millionaire girl friend would be a better value proposition.

  • GBES - 2010-12-09 12:02

    So Dewani is a go between for hitmen now ? How many deaths are we talking about here ?

      cathy.10 - 2010-12-09 13:03

      So that could be a motive - a professional hitman agent arranges a marriage with subject, does the traditional wedding bit but doesn't actually get married, pays percentage of hit money to criminals in SA. How much did Dewani get paid for the hit?

      LBS - 2010-12-09 13:21

      Woah! This is getting really complicated now!!!

  • zinta.rowley - 2010-12-09 12:03

    i knew something wasnt right about this. This man is sick and needs to be put away for a very long time.... Alligations of him doin this before, does not suprise me at all. Did he really think he'll get away with this and South Africans are that Stupid??

      LBS - 2010-12-09 13:23

      tinfishboya, what are you, a moron?

  • franssmith100 - 2010-12-09 12:07

    i have said it before and i will say it again "unbelievable what people do for money"?. the trauma that por woman must have gone through.. wonder if she knew right at the end that this scumbag was involved? if she was my daughter, i would kill the bastard.

  • KissTheBoer - 2010-12-09 12:07

    Its funny how white ppl blame the ANC whenever there is a crime happening in this country but they never border to praise the same ANC when the perpertrators are cought. Big to Mr Zuma, Ndosi Mthethwa and all SAPC staff for job well done

      Derek - 2010-12-09 12:16

      Oh please - congratulate a political party when the police do their job?!?Are you being serious? South Africans (not just whites) blame the ruling party for the decay of the country - that happens in every country in the world - not just SA. Well done to the SAPS, yes I agree, but to say well done to Zuma is just ridiculous. Stop playing the race card you fool.

      sheepdog - 2010-12-09 12:17

      We EXPECT criminals to be caught. That's what the police are getting paid a salary to do. Not sure what role Mr Zuma played in this but congratulate him if you'd like....

      devils-adv - 2010-12-09 12:22

      The only people that had anything to do with this are the hard working, under paid, can't do our jobs properly because the ANC won't spend money on the resources we need, police and detectives. The ANC fat cats were too busy kissing Cuba's arse and checking their bank statements to give a damn about this.

      KissTheBoer - 2010-12-09 12:27

      If you going to hold somebody responsible for anything that is going wrong and praise somebody else when that thing comes right its being baised and stupidy. dump ass derek

      mwfrater - 2010-12-09 12:30

      The ONLY reason why this case is even going as far as it is, is because your wonderful ANC don't want to be caught with their pants down in front of a world stage. Ie. This is only happening because it is a VERY high profile case. Moron. We have a MURDER rate in this country of around 55 MURDERS per day (that's not crimes, just murders) it is the second highest murder rate in the WORLD, ie. out of 195 countries in the world, we rank #2 WORST. It is an appalling statistic, one that your wonderful ANC has failed miserably in controlling and as for the number of cases where justice is brought to book out of those 55 cases per day, we have a murder conviction rate of around 10.7%. That means out of every 55 murders per day, 50 murders are never convicted. 89.3% of murders roam free. What was it you were saying about your wonderful ANC? - 2010-12-09 12:36

      This is not a political issue. Stop making it into one. I applaud the S.A police force for handling this case so well. "kisstheboer" get the chip off your shoulder!!!

      Tony - 2010-12-09 12:37

      If they're so bloody clever, why did the SAPS let the suspected perpetrator out of the country in the first place. No kudos to the cops!

      Derek - 2010-12-09 12:40

      Dump ass hey? Well, looks like I am dealing with a very educated person. OK, lets keep this simple for you so you don't get confused..... When crime in a country (any country) is spiralling out of control, the government is held accountable. It is up to them so steer the country in the right direction and to make it a safer place for all. When a crime is committed and the police do a great job in apprehending the criminals, you don't go and say 'well done' to the political party. You say well done to the police. But, you obviously know nothing about politics so I dont know why I am wasting my time. You are just a rambling racist. Nobody cares.

      Juliass Juju Malema - 2010-12-09 12:41

      We have a lot of quintessential SOBs in this forum, most of them are quick to blame the ANC for every negative thing they can think of, when something positive its not the ANC, it is the police. Without the political will to solve the crime there will be no police, morons.

      devils-adv - 2010-12-09 12:50

      @Tony - You obviously know nothing about the law or have been following the timeline of the case.

      TazzyDML - 2010-12-09 12:53

      Mr zuma deserves no praise for this!!!!!! what did he do for you that makes you praise him this much. i agree with you devils-adv......

      Average Joe - 2010-12-09 13:08

      Hahaha kisstheboer you are a sheep if i ever saw one lol the only reason the ANC is paying special attention to this case is because the world is looking..if you were murdered tomorrow they would not care at all hahaha well done on playing the racism card you ignorant fool

      Derek - 2010-12-09 13:12

      @KissTheBoer: well, you have just won the "Most Delusional" prize for the day. Well done. I am really not sure what you are on but I am just glad that the vast majority of South Africans dont see life the way you do. "White people" this, "your National Party" that.... wow - you really are a sad little person. I dont think you will ever find a person that will say that they wish that Apartheid was back, or that the Apartheid regime was right in what they did. But, people like you continue to wave it in front of every white person's face, assuming that if they are white, then that have to be racist. It's pathetic and you have way too much time on your hands. While the majority of SA are trying to work together and banish the evils of the past, people like you will continue to campaign and shout and scream about what happened 2 decades ago. You are no better than the ridiculous white supremacists. Anyway, you have completely lost the plot and I actually feel pretty sorry for you. Hopefully one day you will be able to move on.

      pointblankza - 2010-12-09 13:13

      No KissTheBoer, there was not hundreds of thousadns of blacks killed during apartheid, that is ANC propaganda.. There were more blacks killed by blacks during apartheid in townships, rural areas and ANC camps in other African countries. You been brainwashed properly.

      SimonP - 2010-12-09 13:16

      @Kisstheboer, what do you mean ONLY 3000, do you consider that exceptable? Do you have some proof of the hundreds of thousands murdered by the apartheid government? Making baseless statements does not mean they ae true.

      mwfrater - 2010-12-09 13:23

      @KissTheBoer since you seem so keen to pull out the racism card on this matter, can you please tell me the race of the three individuals who conspired and committed this crime? I would also go further to disprove your little argument above regarding "crime only a crime if whites are killed" but I fear you are too thick to understand that out of the 55 murders in SA everyday, the majority killed are in fact blacks, murdered by their own kind. Furthermore go take a gander at the SAPS stats regarding whites in jail for murder vs blacks in jail for murder. Maybe you should refrain from making uneducated comments and instead ponder a little on the murder and HIV rates as they stand currently, lending to your races eventual demise by virtue of self destruction. ;) Big up Zuma, viva ANC!

      Conde_Nast - 2010-12-09 13:24

      @KissTheBoer. Get your facts straight baboon. hundreds of thousands? Are you being funny or are you just retarded? According to the HRC statistics, 21,000 people died in political violence in South Africa during apartheid – of whom 14,000 people died during the six-year transition process from 1990 to 1994. Of those deaths, the vast majority, 92%, have been primarily due to (blacks) Africans killing (blacks) Africans — such as the inter-tribal battles for territory: this book’s detailed analyses of the period June 1990 to July 1993 indicates a total of 8580 (92%) of the 9,325 violent deaths during the period June 1990 to July 1993 were caused by Africans killing Africans, or as the news media often calls it, “Black on Black” violence – hostel killings, Inkatha Freedom Party versus ANC killlings, and taxi and turf war violence. You're all the same. Don't try dig yourself out of this one.

      KissTheBoer - 2010-12-09 13:31

      Yes I do, the 1976 june 16 massacre will support my statement. The brutal killing of king Bhambatha, bantubonke Biko and many more apartheid fighters who were killed plus the farm workers that have been killed in recent past being mistaked for a dog, baboon and all sort of animals, some were fed to lions some were killed by a young farmer who decided to go on the shooting spree at the township killing innocent BLACK people. do you need more evidence?

      rudicsr - 2010-12-09 13:45

      KissTheBoer. You are an idiot. Where can I find your figures and stats regarding the hundreds of thousands that was alledgedly killed during apartheid? You have some uneducated tendencies brother...must be apartheids fault. Juliass...why is there so much political will with high profile cases?Why don't we see the same amount of resources and time put into all murders in South Africa?

      mwfrater - 2010-12-09 13:45

      @KissTheBoer LOL!!!!! I have no idea which history books you have read or what schooling (if any) you had, but clearly you are grossly misguided or severely brainwashed. Your statements are all baseless and are a self embarrassment. Lay down before you hurt yourself any further.

      pointblankza - 2010-12-09 13:50

      @KissTheBoer, the person who was fed to the lions was killed by blacks, the white farmer threw the body to the lions. You just stupid, really. Even with the "evidence" you provided that only accounts for a few, not even a hundred let alone hundreds of thousands. Also, there was only one incident of a farmer mistaking a black person for a baboon but some how you have been brainwashed into thinking it happened often. Shame dude, do you actually believe everything the ANC spin doctors tell you, cannot think for yourself? What a poor little person you must be... Now, don't get me started on how many friends and family members I have had murdered by blacks.

      KissTheBoer - 2010-12-09 13:50

      The IFP vs ANC killings were backed by national party behind the scene. NP payed IFP to fight ANC thats why gatsha was ruling KZN during aparthied regime as a reward. the Dewani story is the same as IFP/NP story rich people using poor black people to do their evil deeds.

      KissTheBoer - 2010-12-09 13:59

      Frater I didn't read no books I was part of the struggle, I'm not talking about what some white people wrote to try and change their filthy history. I'm talking about the thiongs I went through and the things other comrades experienced some lived to tell the story like me some didn't survived the brutal hand of the mighty whites. For your info not everything you read is true. Smart ass.

      KissTheBoer - 2010-12-09 14:06

      Guys dispute facts by writing your own not be removing my comments. Thats typical of the "Masters" whenever the truth surfaces they remove it. I take where mr BIKO left of... fighting the white dominance in our country. black people never ever fall for .................white trap they will be nice to you and later on use you against your ppl.

      SimonP - 2010-12-09 14:19

      @Kissthe boer, you seem to be missing the point. You stated the NP party murdered hundreds of thousand durin g apartheid. All we want you to do is prove it, that idea seems to have spun you out of control and now you are trying to change the subject that you brought up.

      KissTheBoer - 2010-12-09 14:19

      People don't be ignorant about 80% of brutal/high profile crime which are committed by black people there is always a rich white many behind the scene. White ppl planned this thing long ago, the drove a black man into poverty then they use the money to manipulate a poor black man to committ these crime. Whenever there is a high profile murder I just ask myself when are they gonna arrest the rich white man who planned that evil deed. Its a known secret that white ppl uses poor black ppl to kill.

      Derek - 2010-12-09 14:20

      Troll. Can't believe I wasted my time with you and your ridiculous comments. You are probably some pathetic white guy looking to stir trouble. Grow up.

      Martin - 2010-12-09 14:25

      Yo Pro KisstheBoer, who killed JFK? Sounds like you can detect anything without an investigation or a court! Eich...

      mwfrater - 2010-12-09 14:28

      @KissTheBoer buddy, you're likely not a day older than 20 (or at least your brain isn't). You were in no struggle and know nothing about it, other than what you and your mates regurgitate around the fire with some beers. Wishing your life was as interesting, so you didn't have to use recycled stories to justify your inadequacies. Your accounts are WRONG and for your information there are loads of books written by your "comrades" (blacks) that disprove your accounts, 200%. You're a sour, misguided, poor little boy crying for the other toddlers dummy, now shut up and go spread your plague elsewhere.

      loveanimals! - 2010-12-09 14:32

      please dont make this racist issue! we live in such a beautiful country!! just a pitty there is white and black murders among us! but they will eventailly burn forever when they die!! --cant wait to watch them all burn until forever-- !! but.. still.. fighting about this now, who is white, who is black or when apartheid was and how many was killed. We dont have anything to do with the Apartheid. I am white, but I have black and brown friends! I just wish people can STOP hating the other colour of the skin so much.. we all are the same at the end. AND ONE PERSON MADE US!!! stupidity is what got us in this Crime country anyways. Believing crap other people feed as and stupidity of not being a real human. because murderers are for sure not human. they are evil, gross and just plainly stupid for choosing hell instead of Heaven one day. Grow up people, start living- with each other!! and then you will see that life is so much more worth than fighting about Apartheid and who is who!! PLEASE can we just all be Ayoba again living to one country , fighting crime together, even if you are white or black or brown or in between!! you all are waisting your time fighting about it!! and it is soooooo boring

      Radrodent - 2010-12-09 14:52

      Oh shut up. I pay taxes so I am employing the cops to do exactly what they should do. As for Zuma, he sent and idiot of a spokeperson to condemn this particular farm killing. Why don't you Google Jackson Mthembu, the aformentioned spokesperson has enough dirt on him when it comes to farm murders you can fill Kimberley se gat. I say prosecute killers/plotters and the spokesperson who condemned the killings for being so friggin arrogant knowing he has a disgustingly tainted past relating to farm murders. Here is the link as I expect you to be lazy.

  • aamirfan - 2010-12-09 12:22

    Cele 4gets 2 mention the 3 bigger monkies who readily killed sweet anni for R15000

  • Wow! - 2010-12-09 12:25

    Mmmm!!!! Bheki Cele it appears to me that your wife has been involved in killing people here via the provisioning of drugs AND that was presumably in your own household. How can we take you seriously - did you know about this?

      suretha.beeputh27 - 2010-12-09 12:45

      yeah we cannot take Beki Cele seriously, he cant see the crime rate is increasing, he has no remorse for the people of this country.

      Banki-Moon - 2010-12-09 13:19

      @Wow!Point of correction.This guy is Cele and the one you are reffering to is CWELE, minister of state securities whereas this one is police commissioner.

      pointblankza - 2010-12-09 13:21

      HAHA! Wow! You an idiot. It's CWELE, not Cele... now go and wash your ox wagon..

      Monde - 2010-12-09 13:22

      groot bek wow, get your facts right in that little mind of yours, you are embarrassing yourself.

      Radrodent - 2010-12-09 14:55 Read the above link and then ask yourself if you can even take the spokesperson of the ANC that condembed the recent farm killings seriously.

  • sailight - 2010-12-09 12:32

    this entire saga is so full of stupidity - i mean really this guy is supposed to be a smart businessman - how idiotic to arrange a hi-jacking when you in the car - surely if he wanted to kill her (which in itself is shocking) i mean why get married in the first place !!! how come he approached the taxi guy to ask him about killing someone - i mean really - does this happen in this day and age - unless the perception worldwide is that all SA are murderers! he could easily have arranged for his wife to go out alone and then arranged for her to be killed - why implicate himself? R15000.00 come on man - i mean how cheap is human life. Yesterday the taxi guy says he did not get payment of his R1000.00 today there is proof of payment on CCTV nothing is making sense - the more that is revealed the less is making sense

      Dezray - 2010-12-09 12:43

      He said that he only received R1 000 and not the R15 000 that was meant to be paid. But I agree with you nothing is making sense. and i hope they get what they deserve

      Sash - 2010-12-09 12:59

      me thinks you should have been a detective. hats off to you... good point

      pointblankza - 2010-12-09 13:22

      sailight, you forget 15,000 is the most money these poor people will ever see in their lifetime. It is like offering you 1 million..

      KickAssKenny - 2010-12-09 14:37

      Every money transaction has a trail. If Dewani came into the country with the money, he would have had to declare it. Especially if he was going to pay someone R15000. If he did not have it, he would have had to draw it, transfer it or whatever. There is a trail. Being a businessman, it will be habit to keep receipts, adding to the trail. None of this is being mentioned. Also, why trust a stranger with such a secret. I won't trust a stranger with my bags, why trust them with carrying out this task, and then expecting them to keep quiet about it. I think that the driver told his mates to let the 2 of them to go, so if they got caught, they will say that they were paid, and get a lenient sentence. Look what happened in the Kebble murder. Killers walked away because they were state witnesses and the accused walked because there was not enough evidence. The driver thought that same would happen to him. Also from a political context, it is easier to say that a foreigner perpetrated such a terrible crime. Can you imagine the tourism industry in the Cape, if you could not trust the stranger driving you around? Can you imagine the message that would be sent around the world if a tourist was killed in SA, by the friends of the guy driving them around, at their own doing? We will have to wait for the trial and see what evidence is brought forward.

  • Mgayi - 2010-12-09 12:34

    Is there a possibility that the transaction captured in the cctv footage could have been payment for the " Cab Fare" for the night of the murder ? Maybe Shrien did not have an opportunity to pay the driver on that night . . . .your thoughts ?

      Black.dude - 2010-12-09 12:45

      Would you pay a taxi if it never reached its destination and you got hijacked on the way?

      Ithinkso - 2010-12-09 12:48

      You have got to be kidding man !! Of course you are - your funny :))))

      Grant Wright - 2010-12-09 12:56

      Just imagine you ask a taxi driver to wait for his money? he will tell you to F-off.

      Juliass Juju Malema - 2010-12-09 13:02

      Common sense says he could have paid him anywhere but not that amount for a cab fare.

      pointblankza - 2010-12-09 13:26

      I certainly would not meet the driver of the taxi which was hijacked and my wife killed! Especially 2 days afterwards..

  • Mike - 2010-12-09 12:40

    When the police start solving & stopping the terrible farm murders then we can say they are doing their jobs. Strange how they are quick to keep the people from over seas happy while tax paying south africans are slaughtered and not much happens. the justice system in this country is a joke

      pointblankza - 2010-12-09 13:20

      Stop pasting and start actually debating idiot.

      Hug0 - 2010-12-09 14:53

      You see the irony in your post hey pointblankza?

  • Dezray - 2010-12-09 12:40

    Its funny how everything will always come out. I still think its funny how the brits are saying things to make it like we are just accusing this guy so that we are not looked at as the country for murder and other crimes. I can tell you now that this guy had something to do with it. His statements changed everytime they spoke (questioned) to him and he does not look like he is hurting at the lose of his wife at all. And not to mention the fact that it was a hijacking - BUT they never took the car they left the car with the poor woman dead inside. I wonder if they told her that her husband was involved cos I would haunt the ass for the rest of his life. I hope that justice is served and to the idiots that killed for the R15 000 i hope you all rot! RIP anni

  • suretha.beeputh27 - 2010-12-09 12:43

    SA STORY SOUNDS BUTCHRED, I DONT BELIEVE A WORD THAT THEY SAY, I THINK ITS SO UNFAIR THAT THEY IMPOSED PUNISHMENT ON TONGO THAT DOG WITH OUT HEARING WHAT MR DEWANI HAS TO SAY. WHAT HAPPPENED TO THE AUDI ALTEREM PARTEM RULE, SA WANTS TO SAVE ITS REPUTATION BUT THEY LOST ITS RPUTATION SINCE 1994, SHRIEN DEWANI IS INNOCENT PERIOD Ian teal is not a judge so why is he imposing punishment, who the hell do you think you are. WAKE UP SA , how can SA listen to a crimnal Tongo. Tongo dserves the death penality, theres evev a possibility that the polices thought Tongo to incriminate Dewani, Tongo is a typical black crimnal,

      pointblankza - 2010-12-09 13:15

      Learn to spell idiot.

      LBS - 2010-12-09 13:42

      How can you say he is INNOCENT PERIOD?? Wait until all the facts are out and proved. As a "learned" person you should also know better.

      Dezray - 2010-12-09 14:18

      You cant say he is innocent. They seem to have some proof so before you jump the gun maybe wait and see what evidance is brought forward. What you going to say if he is guilty???... O sorry sa you did a good job?

      pcm.eng - 2010-12-09 14:37

      You must be Brittish. What Rubbish.

  • Mike - 2010-12-09 12:46

    When the cops do the same for the farm murders we can say well done, the justice system in this country is pathetic. would like to see how quickly the murder of the family & little girl who was shot in the head gets solved, sorry i forgot they are not from over seas & they are white so they will be at the bottom of the priority list

      KissTheBoer - 2010-12-09 13:11

      what so special about those farmers?

      pointblankza - 2010-12-09 13:16

      They've already caught the suspects and they have already appeared in court, idiot.

      rudicsr - 2010-12-09 13:56

      Whats so special about a tourist kisstheboer?Wake up troglodite.

      GWB - 2010-12-09 14:37

      @KissTheBoer. what did you eat today and yesterday? that is what is so special about those farmers! Oh you buy from KFC and PickaPay....yes they get the chicken and pap from the special farmers!!

  • Joanne Lambley - 2010-12-09 12:48

    ah yes, what we said all along, husband behind it all. And all the silly foreigners thought it was just typical SA

      Martin - 2010-12-09 14:22

      Joanne, sorry but there is still South Africans involved & nothing has been proofed in a court...

  • Ness - 2010-12-09 12:50

    I think it all sounds a little fishy. First off the driver said he sent a text and was told the money was in the back of the car, now he is getting more money at the restaurant. Which is it? As for, he also stitched up that journalist who came out here to cover the story about someone getting into the locker room during the world cup. Which was such rubbish! He likes to make sure someone else is to blame for anything high profile that happens here and if he can blame a foreigner all the better. I don't know if this guy is guilty or not, all I am saying is that Cele has a reputation for this sort of thing.

      Ness - 2010-12-09 13:21

      Sorry, meant to say "As for Cele"

      Dezray - 2010-12-09 14:20

      The money in the car was for the "hijackers" and then Tongo was paid for his involvement afterwards. There does seem to be different stories everywhere even from the husband, whose statements were different everytime??????????

      wildcat - 2010-12-09 15:16

      here there's still something here that doesn't add up,Shiren said they robbed him R6500 may it was the remaining amount who knows,but there's still more to come here,lets wait and c, every single day we get something new regarding this case.The question is what's next..........

  • unmistry - 2010-12-09 12:53

    way to much speculation.....where's all the evidence man. I'm getting tired of all the twists

  • Brenton - 2010-12-09 12:57

    This is like a soap opera!

      Monde - 2010-12-09 13:23


      Conde_Nast - 2010-12-09 13:25

      The news is one big soap opera

  • cmdnunes - 2010-12-09 12:57

    OMG! I cant believe this crap has fooled half of you people too!! Dont be idiots, do you lot not realise how much money the South African government has paid this taxi driver to say this, I guarantee you his family have just been promised no more poverty if he comes out saying this, and why, Because this government doesnt want this to look bad for South Africa you fools! I cant believe they destroying a young grooms life this way... this world is ruined, sick! I really feel sorry for this guy because unfortunately he's going to be found guilty, this murdering bastard, part of what (54 Murders a day?) is lying and getting his life sorted out perfectly just for this sick government, this makes me so angry because it could happen to any of us... So let me guess fools, our close family friend's Mom and daughter got kidnapped and the Mom got raped... So is her husband involved all of a sudden? Why not? He wasn't taken, only them?! Yes, makes no sense does it you idiots! But guess what, there is stuff all we can do about it, this poor guy must just suffer at the hands of power.

      KissTheBoer - 2010-12-09 13:13

      You can write sometimes

      Dave - 2010-12-09 13:16

      I agree with you. Dewani would be stupid to come back here. He would never get a fair trial. 90% of South Africa (including the police) have already found the poor man guilty. (Just read the comments here). And, what chance will he have when an upright reliable citizen called Zonga gives evidence against him!!!

      pointblankza - 2010-12-09 13:18

      It's 46 a day. Not 54 or 55... And no the government does not pay criminals to say things, you an idiot. Go wash your ox wagon or milk a cow.

      Polo - 2010-12-09 13:27

      And you're the only clever one around here...makes one wonder!! Just look at the evidence, the different stories he told the police....also the police will not make such accusations public if they do not have the joke's on you idiot!!

      Conde_Nast - 2010-12-09 13:28

      calm down

      pointblankza - 2010-12-09 13:29

      @Dave, please provide proof that 90% OF South Africans including police have found him guilty. Idiot. And also, explain how he would not get a fair trial. You sound old and maybe you losing your memory, have you had your medication?

      Dave - 2010-12-09 13:32

      Pointblankza - 46 or 54 or 55.....what's the difference we're still way in front! Must say, I did wonder about the "torture" allegations before Tonga's "Plea Bargain". Nobody's mentioned that again. Ok, I'm off to wash my ox wagon! I will leave you to milk the cow!

      LBS - 2010-12-09 13:47

      You are a fool!

      Dave - 2010-12-09 13:54

      pointblankza As I said - read these comments: 90% have already prejudged and in their minds, he is guilty. As for the police just read the head of this column. Even police chief Cele believes "One monkey came from London to kill his wife here". That statement is disgraceful. Do you really think that Dewani would come back thinking he would get a fair trial in that kind of atmosphere. No pointblankza, justice should be seen to be impartial. Please don't get personal and insulting, let's rather have a constructive debate.

      rudicsr - 2010-12-09 14:00

      @pointplankza...go wash your taxi bro.The Government is paying Mr.Yengeni not to say things...

      Dezray - 2010-12-09 14:29

      @Dave. I think some ppl are looking at it at a different point then you. I think when you say that most of the comments here and most of the ppl here already think he is guilty is because look at what has happened... 1. different statements to the police everytime he was questioned, 2. They were HIJACKED right? why was the car left behind with the poor wife in it dead. 3. Does he really look like he is hurting other the death of his wife. Yes maybe he is innocent but I guess we will all only know that once the evidence is shown in court. They saying that they have CCTV footage and the first thing that comes up is that he was paying the fare. He just lost his wife but he has the time to go and first off call the taxi driver ( how did he have his number?) to say o sorry you were in a hijacking with me and my wife was killed and they took your car but please i forgot to pay you so here.... Does not make sense

  • Sash - 2010-12-09 12:58

    monkey really? is that the best you can do?that's like childish talk! grow up man gee whiz!

      Monde - 2010-12-09 13:24

      your mind is programmed to focus on petty things, grow out of it!

  • feppie - 2010-12-09 13:04

    @ Max Clifford : Tell your client that Pappa is waiting for him in Pollsmoor!

      s.greendaniels - 2010-12-09 14:00

      lmao!! good one Feppie

  • Monewayne - 2010-12-09 13:07

    Give the police some credit !! They are certainly not going to divulge the intricate details of their case against Dewani to the public. They would not be making these accusations if they did not have evidence to back it up...

      LBS - 2010-12-09 13:48

      Good for you, Monewayne

      LBS - 2010-12-09 13:51

      I really just hope this case does not get messed up again.

  • Hermon - 2010-12-09 13:07

    Don’t you think there is a story behind this story...If he really did it why would he leave easy tracks for him to get caught? For example: • Why would he leave as soon as the wife died? • Why would he confide in someone he really didn’t know to murder the wife? • For a British business man he would obviously know that exchange of sms and calls might be used as evidence if caught? • Why kill someone just after 2 weeks of marriage? • Why come all the way to SA to kill someone?....he could have had her killed there in UK in a much smarter way. (Many terrosist in UK who can do a better job). • How was the killer caught? • What would be the reason behind for the shooter to quickly come and confess soon after the murder? • How did he travel back to the UK? • Why is evidence so readily available for example the CCTV camera showing this guy paying money to the taxi driver? Suspicious • Some evidence say they fought on the plane….who really would have remembered this couple to fish out all this? Clearly the person behind it came with them from the UK Things just don’t add up....I’m not saying he’s innocent or is guilty, but all the evidence proves there something funny going on...this could likely be more of an organized crime, which he had no control over. What his side of the Story? I think they should look on the flight they came with and cross reference all the passengers with whom he knows…that’s were our answers lie!!!!

      Ness - 2010-12-09 14:08

      I would also like to know how long they dated before getting married. Her dad had only met him a few times and no one is saying anything like "they dated for 2 years" etc. Perhaps it was an arranged marriage and he wanted out?

      Martin - 2010-12-09 14:20

      Hermon, who killed JFK?

  • Stollie - 2010-12-09 13:14

    This combined with the Wikileaks saga is just like a crime/spy movie. I'm sitting back and watching it all unfold with my box of popcorn and my slushpuppy

  • phoenix - 2010-12-09 13:14

    how bad was the honeymoon night?

  • Lionel - 2010-12-09 13:14

    It appears we have another Donovan Moodley in Shrien Dewani, only difference is that it appears that the latter did not pull the trigger and paid some other low life to do it.

  • knight.black990 - 2010-12-09 13:19

    Whether Shiren Dewani is found guilty or not for Annis murder, the outcome for South Africa is bad either way. Remember the actual guys who murdered Anni were South Africans - like it or not. And lets not forget about the other 50 murders that take place every day in South Africa. Guys we are talking facts here.

  • knight.black990 - 2010-12-09 13:39

    What a joke South Africa has become!!! Regardless of whether Shiren Dewani is found guilty of the murder of Anni or not, remember it was South Africans who actually carried out the crime - and if Zolas claims are ever proven true - for a very small sum of money. Don't forget the fact that there are 50 murders in South Africa each and every day!! These are the facts people. Stop being in denial and think that if a foreigner is blamed for this crime then things will look better on a global front for South Africa because trust me they won't. South Africa had a great world cup but remember this was probably because there were many more police around and football fans were generally travelling around in groups.

  • rchetty8 - 2010-12-09 13:50

    Dear Mr Cele, just because u have the title as Commissioner,does not give u the right to call an Indian a "MONKEY" !!!!, does this mean we Indians can call you a "BABOON". This is not right to label people outside their origin. I agree with what GAZZA has mentioned below and also agree with what SA Top Retired Detective has stated, their are too many loop holes in this case to point fingers at the husband. Get your facts right first before condeming an individual. If he is guilty of premeditating this crime, then he should receive the full arm of the law. I personally think that motive for this killing is key aspect of this case as no one can just kill someone for no reason unless they are on drugs or totally insane.

  • Martin - 2010-12-09 13:51

    What a joke with Cele commenting: "...a monkey from London" If Cele was white he would have been earmarked as a racist... Also Cele not everyone in the UK live in London! He is from Bristol 200km away. Now who really is the monkey here?

  • Mgayi - 2010-12-09 13:55

    I still believe this was a late payment for the cab fare , remember this dude was "ejected" from "le cab" without his belongings therefore it only makes sense that he paid the fare a day or two later when he was at the hotel where he was being comforted by family .He was robbed of his belongings and probably obtained a "R1000 loan" from a family member to pay the driver . . . . your thoughts ?

      Dave - 2010-12-09 14:05

      That makes sense Mgayi. But I heard that the CCTV is so indistinct that can't even see clearly if it is Dewani and Zonga.

      Leigh Douglas - 2010-12-09 14:25

      You do have to be joking!!!!

      Mgayi - 2010-12-09 14:26

      @Dave , most people are quick to find this young man guilty without taking a pause and thinking of other possibilites which are endless . I would encourage people not to be quick to judge

  • Martin - 2010-12-09 13:59

    Good luck to the SAPS, IF HE IS GUILTY. He is stinking rich and as OJ proofed they will make a @ass of Konstabel Abel by finding a million holes in the case against him. Some similar incident recently from Stellenbosch also comes to mind...

  • s.greendaniels - 2010-12-09 14:05

    i dont even bother to read the articals anymore.. the comments are far more interesting than anything else.

  • pcm.eng - 2010-12-09 14:52

    The tosser killed the beautiful girl because she found out that hes gay. Regarding the insurance payouts, the British Police need to envistigate his mother and close family. Tossers like this one usually are a Mommys boy. They usually make their mothers benefactors from their wivies insurance policy.

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