SA did not deny Dalai Lama - dept

2011-10-05 13:13

Johannesburg - South Africa has not denied the Dalai Lama a visa, international relations spokesperson Clayson Monyela said on Wednesday.

He said the government was still deciding on the visa application when the Tibetan spiritual leader cancelled his trip.

"The SA government had not denied him a visa. We did not say no to him. [His application] was being considered when he decided to cancel."

He said it was difficult to say how long a decision on the application would have taken, but said a visa could take up to two months to process.

The Dalai Lama had applied for a visa to attend Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu's 80th birthday celebration this weekend, but withdrew his application on Tuesday to save the South African government the "inconvenience".

He cancelled the trip because no visa had been granted to him.

Incomplete application

Monyela said the spiritual leader had admitted in a statement that his first visa application in August was incomplete.

"There was acknowledgement or admission that he only submitted his original passport on September 20... a period of roughly two weeks [ago]."

The Office of Tibet in Pretoria said last week the department had all the documentation required to make a decision on the visa.

The passport was submitted as soon as the Dalai Lama returned from a visit to South America.

Monyela said: "No government will process an incomplete [application]."

On Wednesday, Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe told The Star newspaper he believed a visa would have been granted if the trip had not been cancelled.

No pressure

"Of course, he has been here before. I don't see why it should be an issue at all," he was quoted as saying.

Motlanthe, who recently concluded a trip to China, denied there had been pressure from Beijing not to grant the Dalai Lama the visa.

The Dalai Lama visited South Africa on three occasions between 1996 and 2004, and met former presidents Nelson Mandela and Thabo Mbeki.

In 2009, he was refused entry by the Zuma administration to attend a conference of Nobel laureates. The government said the visit would detract from preparations for the 2010 FIFA World Cup. That decision drew sharp criticism from abroad and at home.

On Tuesday, Tutu reacted to Dalai Lama's still not having been granted a visa to visit the country, by saying South Africans would pray for the downfall of the ANC.

"We will pray as we prayed for the downfall of the apartheid government. We will pray for the downfall of a government that misrepresents us," Tutu told reporters in Cape Town.

He equated the ANC government to the "repressive and divisive" apartheid regime.

The ANC said Tutu's reaction was "unfortunate".

"They are not the same and to say ANC has gone worse... The bishop knows it well deep down his heart, mind and soul that that's a total untruth," African National Congress spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said.

  • Grayman - 2011-10-05 13:15

    No of course you didn't DENY him a visa, you just didn't APPROVE one. There is a big difference you know ... NOT!

      THE-SRG - 2011-10-05 13:19

      yup...with a figure like him it should have been a straight forward decision....we all know why they did not approve it in a speedy time frame.

      Grayman - 2011-10-05 13:20

      Now the spin doctors are blaming the Dalai Lama for cancelling his trip too soon. Sorry for your Mr Zuma, but the rest of the world are not going to fall for your spin. The damage is done! Talk about closing the stable after the horse has bolted. (Oops, bad analogy, just now someone spills a drink).

      PB - 2011-10-05 13:26

      If this is the way the department handles a VIP's application, how long would they take with Joe Blogs'? Monyela's claiming that they could not finalise the process without the physical passport. Fine, but how much more of the process still needed to be done by that time? I may not work in that department, but geez, I am sure 99% could have been done before the passport arrived. How much time did they need for the last 1%? Pull the other one dude...

      Who Knew - 2011-10-05 13:27

      Did they expect him to wait in the arrivals lounge while he waited for them to get their heads out their ar$es and each others ar$e and make a decision. I bet less time was taken to allow that dictator from Haiti to come live here.

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-05 13:28

      While they're at it... "well a million people in SA could have had RDP homes this week, had they not died while waiting for 20 years like everybody else..."

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-05 13:31

      @ PB - Clayson Monyela was only interested in looking "the part" on TV - he looked very smart, but not much of intelligence emanated from his mouth unfortunately. Amazing how some people are so spineless!!!

      Protest - 2011-10-05 13:34

      The SA government had not denied him a visa, they just delayed the visa to the point where it was irrelevant. Petty politics at its best.

      StoneFlint - 2011-10-05 13:39

      The ANC is made up of a bunch of sleazy, under the table cowards!!!

      steve - 2011-10-05 13:41

      I think the officials concerned were probably just waiting for a bribe.

      Civil_Rights - 2011-10-05 13:44

      Our government deny everything, the deny that certain members in parliament are corrupt, that the country is not facing service delivery issues and that our judicial system is adequate. In return i hope people wake up and DENY you with their votes.

      Joe_Public - 2011-10-05 13:48

      So I'm assuming that the VISA application is still being processed? He may have cancelled his trip but the VISA application is irrespective of the trip is it not? I'll be waiting on the outcome of the application.

      4b6 - 2011-10-05 13:50

      BUT we now read that "according to the Chinese diplomatic community in SA - the Dalai Lama was always going to be denied a visa to enter the country" Left hand, right hand? Someone is lying here, but surely its not our government...they wouldn't lie to us would they?

      DIAMOND - 2011-10-05 14:08

      I agree...trying to cover there a$$es now that the sh*t is probably going to hit the fan...surely this is not normal circumstances...well maybe he can start applying now for Desmond Tutu's 81st Birthday..hopefully next year this time he would have received it.

      Barry O - 2011-10-05 14:09

      Why should the Dalai Lama ever be refused a visa to visit South Africa!? The man is a spiritual leader and a Nobel Peace Prize winner. He is internationally respected (except for in China and apparently South Africa). On what grounds would he not be issued with a visa other than pandering to the will and demands of the Chinese government. The ANC government has disgraced South Africa and the vision and ideals of leaders like Nelson Mandela, Oliver Tambo, Chief Albert Luthuli and Mahatma Ghandi not to mention the Archbishop Desmond Tutu himself. Utterly disgraceful, but sadly indicative of the calibre of the current leadership within the ANC.

      Charles N - 2011-10-05 14:09

      I wonder if any other social/peace group is going to invite the Dalai Lama. Perhaps it's time to start a kitty to cover the costs...

      Phaedioux - 2011-10-05 14:23

      This is exactly the response that most of us predicted would happen when we first got the news of the DL's cancellation yesterday! Pathetic!

      Hackney - 2011-10-05 15:52

      Sharrap PolioDonki. No one cares what you think, you News Troll.

      The Kaapman - 2011-10-05 17:10

      They would take a minute to produce a visa for Mr Blatter but a month for a man of Peace!

      Denise - 2011-10-05 17:23

      Much of the ANC's massive & overwhelming expenditure on the last election campaign originated from China. The Chinese Communist Party heavily subsidised and financed the ANC's 2009 election campaign. One result has been the serial neglect by the ANC government of SA's national interests in foreign policy (not to mention human rights considerations) as its first priority has always been to repay its main funders with favours. Over the past 17 years the ANC has been in hock to the regimes of Nigeria, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Libya, China & Taiwan. Zuma has successfully been using his visits overseas to do some fund raising on the side. This may already be compromising the ability of SA to pursue its own interests, free of external interference. If the Chinese Communist Party did help to pay for the ANC's 2009 election campaign - the obvious question is whether this underpinned the government's otherwise inexplicable decision to ban Tibet's Dalai Lama from entering the country?

      KomissarDzerzhinsky - 2011-10-05 22:10

      It is always tricky to issue visas to even loyal subjects, once they visit the West, they often never come back.

      whereu - 2011-10-07 04:01

      Motlanthe, who recently concluded a trip to China, denied there had been pressure from Beijing not to grant the Dalai Lama the visa. Year right! If there was no pressure, why the procrastination? Possible answers: 1. Procrastination is one of your strengths 2. You are being rather liberal with the truth 3. The ANC's left hand don’t know what its right hand is doing 4. The reason is what most suspect. The Chinese have got you by the proverbials 5. All of the above

  • THE-SRG - 2011-10-05 13:16

    Did not deny but also did not agree....its simple...they wanted him to just give up.

      Charles N - 2011-10-05 14:20

      Apparently there's a guy in Kya Sands that can arrange the Dalai Lama his very own SA passport in only a couple of days. No need for a visa then.... ;-)

  • Theoniel Bosman - 2011-10-05 13:16

    OMG are they still going on about this...let is go, what's done is done!!!!

      MojoBa - 2011-10-05 13:46

      Yes Theoniel, the actual deed is done, but are you one of those people who do not realise the far reaching consequences this nonsense could have. Shall we all just sit back and let this country go to the dogs????

      Civil_Rights - 2011-10-05 13:50

      I'm glad this Dalai Lama saga is a continous debate. This will make citizens aware of our government's stance on peace. Maybe this is a glimpse of epiphany for humanity to vote rationally.

  • Smart Man - 2011-10-05 13:16

    that's the f.....en problem they take too long to decide. it costed the country now. well done mr. zuma

      PB - 2011-10-05 13:19

      Seems like zuma's 'applying his mind' game has rubbed off on all the government departments.

      sganja - 2011-10-05 13:22

      Smart Man what "costed the country now"?

      jerhone - 2011-10-05 13:22

      eish it's African time we very lazy peoples

      Grayman - 2011-10-05 13:38

      @PB: "Applying his mind"="Quiet Diplomacy"="Eish angazi".

      THE-SRG - 2011-10-05 13:39 will never know how much it has truly effected out country...ever pebble thrown in the pond has a ripple effect and for every action there is a reaction

      levit8 - 2011-10-05 13:48

      I'd bet a LOT of money that Ghadaffi and Mugabe had their visa's processed in record time when they visited here !!

      MojoBa - 2011-10-05 13:49

      @ sganja - typical mentality of the ANC voters. I suppose you are also of the opinion that when your brothers strike it doesn't cost our country anything. Hard to explain these things to people who believe that raping a virgin will cure aids

      Smart Man - 2011-10-05 14:03

      @ Sganja, nothing costed the country. there's nothing going on. i am sure you'll beleive that. you looking but you do not see. woe unto you

      Smart Man - 2011-10-05 14:06

      @ Sganja, nothing is costing the country because nothing is happening, i am sure you'll beleive that. you are looking but you cannot see. WOE UNTO YOU

      sganja - 2011-10-05 14:09

      @THE-SRG yes I don't know that's why i'm asking @ MojoBa I will be happy if you can answer the question

      piet.strydom - 2011-10-05 14:24

      @sganja - I will spell it out for you: Not giving the Dalai Lama a visa, is a nother tick in the box of South Affrica aligning with oppressive regimes like China, Libya, Zimbabwe and South Africa. It is another example of the people running the government kow towing to the people that pays them the most bribes. It shows an example to the rest of the people in South Africa that doing the right thing does not pay. It is better to bribe and steal, it is better to align with the criminals. Need I go on? I am not sure if you couldn't work this out for yourself, if you would ever be able to have it explained to you.

      MojoBa - 2011-10-05 14:32

      @sganja - the problem is that you won't understand. You come from a background where everything is about money in the hand. Africa as a whole don't think about tomorrow. As long as there is money in the hand and food on the table today. Have you ever heard of damage to the reputation of a business man costing him future business. Now, think of SA as a business and then think (if you can) about the damage this has caused our reputation and therefore future business. Get someone to explain what you don't understand.

      sganja - 2011-10-05 14:32

      Thanks piet.strydom but your explanation is meaningless. "Not giving the Dalai Lama a visa, is a nother tick in the box of South Affrica aligning with oppressive regimes like China, Libya, Zimbabwe and South Africa." Really?

      Smart Man - 2011-10-05 14:33

      Thank you Piet, hopes he gets it now. if not then his surname is Malema

      happycamper - 2011-10-05 17:23

      eish...we can't think for lets delay delay and do nothing.....eish...howwwww...eish...

  • Deeteem - 2011-10-05 13:17


      JMan - 2011-10-07 07:40 that still possible...?

  • Matt :-) - 2011-10-05 13:18

    Sure... as if we believe you! I'm sure any other half-rated celebrity would've had their visa fast-tracked, but this chap, an international icon, the leader of a country which was brutally invaded and yet speaks of peace, nope "his takes the full 2 months" ...

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-05 13:22

      Seeing how this is international news and looks VERY bad for SA, I don't see them quickly saying "we're so sorry, here's your visa, please come". Clearly they do not WANT him here... And seeing how he entered SA 3x during other presidencies, clearly this lies with that incompetent turtle-head Zuma and his excuse for an administration

      kalabafazi - 2011-10-05 13:29

      A lot like Mandela, who has presumably also been told by his former buddies to sit at home and shut the hell up.

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-05 13:34

      Just remembered Matt - Wesley Snipes was visiting our country on a false passport and nothing was done. "Sauce for one is obviously not sauce for the other"

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-05 13:44

      @ GypseyAnn - when was that, seeing how he's a jailbird now (unless he re-appealed) I wonder what would have happened if the DL just flew to SA regardless...

      IandI - 2011-10-05 13:53

      @kalabafazi I don't believe you still want to drag a 93 yr-old frail man into this! Madiba has done his part, leave him alone to enjoy his retirement, ijoo!

  • TheGoat - 2011-10-05 13:19

    can you say passive aggressive much? We wont say no, we'll just keep you guessing and hoping until its way to late for you to do anything BUT cancel the trip. LOL yes we are stupid and cant see what is going on ...

  • mystae - 2011-10-05 13:20

    Blah blah blah. This is of course their anticipated response, and doesn't necessarily reflect the truth.

  • Bruce Wells - 2011-10-05 13:20

    Who do they think they are kidding!!!

      Lekabisto - 2011-10-05 13:24

      Part of the majority voters, I mean that literally. Seeing that they still win majority vote I belive they are succedding in fooling them.

  • kalabafazi - 2011-10-05 13:21

    "He cancelled the trip because no visa had been granted to him." Duh. What else was he supposed to do. He is clearly one step ahead of the ANC voters - he's not going to hang around waiting for answers.

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-05 13:36


      Luzuko M - 2011-10-05 16:33

      and this has to do with ANC voters, how? morron. stick to the topic.

      JMan - 2011-10-07 07:43

      @ Luzuko This IS the goverment the VOTERS voted into power...and STILL continue to do so after all these MAJOR "Mess"-Ups..... so it has a lot to do with them and the topic. Wake up. "morron"

  • Yar - 2011-10-05 13:21

    Institutionalised Lying. Does the Absolutely No Clue party think that we are stupid. Everybody understands exactly what they are trying to do. Nobody believes your lies any more.

      Slartibartfast - 2011-10-05 14:20

      .... unfortunately some (the majority of ANC voters) still do due to lack of inteligence and common sense. SAD.

  • Jubes - 2011-10-05 13:21

    One liar better than the next! So why not now offer him a 10 year VISA to enter the country whenever he wishes. Such scum these dirt-bags are that run this country so successfully into the ground!

  • Boerkwas - 2011-10-05 13:21

    He was not denied a VISA, they simply delayed it until he decided to cancel. So really no fault from our government. Right?

  • Colline - 2011-10-05 13:22

    how STUPID do they think we are?!?!?!? didn't deny it??? as of 2 days before departure they hadn't approved it either!!!!!

  • Rob Gunning - 2011-10-05 13:22

    So the government can neither confirm or deny his Visa application. Hmmmm..... where have I heard this excuse 1000 times before???.

  • Christo - 2011-10-05 13:22

    Two Wongs don't make a white.

  • Thor - 2011-10-05 13:22

    I will keep praying for the anc's downfall all the same....

      sganja - 2011-10-05 13:24

      Thor reall? Don't waste your time, tutu was emotional, it will end soon.

      Damian - 2011-10-05 14:16

      Praying to an imaginary entity has never solved anything. But I share your sentiment towards the downfall of the gravy train movement. Sganja, you are a hypocrite of the highest order, and it's because of people like you, that Africa is what it is today. When they supported the movement against apartheid it suited you well. Now that they expect the same in return, you spit in their faces. Do you even know the meaning of hypocrite. I doubt it.

      sganja - 2011-10-05 14:23

      @ Damian God does not listen to Tutu whenever he want's to satisfy his needs, there are many religious leaders who supports Anc. Tutu call was emotional and God does not like decisions taken out of anger...

      Damian - 2011-10-05 15:10

      Sganja, you're missing the point. Completely. Do you have anything to say with regards to the moral of the story? Oppression is wrong, whether it's oppression over blacks, whites, yellows, or Tibetan's. The impression that I get from you, is that it is 'OK' for the ANC because it's protecting the interests of your fellow black africans. By that logic, Apartheid was also 'ok'. You have yourself become what you hate so much, but you are too blind to see.

      JMan - 2011-10-07 07:46

      @ sganja... don't only have the "power" to speak for your "leaders" now can speak for god...? (Imaginary or not)

  • Pekkie - 2011-10-05 13:22

    You cant put a spin on this one ANC, Again you have shown the world that South Africa cant Govern itself without becoming the headlines of all the negative media hype, Dont blame the media for the headlines blame the ANC failing Government!

  • Tonsil - 2011-10-05 13:22

    Clayton how do you sleep at night knowing that you are lying to the country. When was the visa going to be granted? In November? If the Dalai Lama still wants to come to SA will you continue with his application.

  • panafricanis - 2011-10-05 13:23

    This is fair....he should have waited to hear the outcome of his apllication...the Department did not say no...he cancels...Finish and klaar.....

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-05 13:37

      Do you emanate from some lost tribe panafricanis?

      Crunchiessss - 2011-10-05 13:47

      He probably waited as long as he could have and had no choice but to cancel. Who knows what was said or done here? We are all just hearing a response from the government because they were heavily criticized by Tutu. He is probably the only person in the country with the balls to tell things like they appear.

      Taurus 11 - 2011-10-05 13:56

      Hey Penisafricanis So if you apply for a visa two months in advance and have already booked your airfare you are going to wait until after the plane has left to get an answer. Clever!

      daaivark - 2011-10-05 14:22

      Look, panafricanis. It took less time to get a temporary residence permit for a ZImbabwean. Get real.

      Slartibartfast - 2011-10-05 14:24

      GOD but you are dumb Panafricanis! But that is why ANC will remain in power ... due to the stupidity of the masses. RIP.

  • Willyza - 2011-10-05 13:23


  • Ulindi - 2011-10-05 13:24

    "South Africa has not denied the Dalai Lama a visa" - No; Just left it to "resolve" itself - couwards...and it takes a week, not 2 months to process a visa...AND you had most documentation sitting around from Sept already, if all that was missing was the passport; surely that would take minimal time to process once recieved?!

      Ulindi - 2011-10-05 13:27

      Sry - correction: had most documentation since AUGUST already...

  • chris.faurie - 2011-10-05 13:25

    Not denied, just procrastinate long enough and anyone will give up.

  • Pigscanfly - 2011-10-05 13:25

    If the president of China had to apply for a Visa it would be issued without consideration immediately. Pull the other one....LOSERS

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-05 13:31

      The president of China wouldn't need one - head of state...

      Grant - 2011-10-05 13:46

      Jackie Chan then... ;)

  • Jill Nash - 2011-10-05 13:25

    You didnt give him the visa - you are trying to back peddle - you are making this country a place not to visit and you want to know where all the tourists are- why should they come here at all!!!!!!! There are beautiful places in the rest of Africa that want tourists and visitors.They are wise no to come here. Its becoming a joke. This is disgusting. It used to be such a wonderful place to live.

  • Catmando - 2011-10-05 13:26

    Is there a doctor in the house we need to get rid of this cANCer fast

  • RainbowZombi - 2011-10-05 13:27

    You Did you Hippocrates!! Speak to the Hand!..... Speak to the Hand!

  • ashley.tuttle1 - 2011-10-05 13:28

    doesn't the last sentence of this article mean that Jackson Mthembu has called Bishop Tutu a liar? that's a huge insult and a big statement.

  • v3 - 2011-10-05 13:28

    It's like "Jacob Zuma has not been found guilty of his 783 corruption charges" [because the ANC abused its power to evade justice]. Once again, the ANC is misleading the country with "form over substance" specious sophistry. This is the department whose handbag-lady minister created an international incident and cost the country quarter of a million rands for an ego trip.

      Jack Turner - 2011-10-05 13:39

      "Touche" v3...To add fire to your comment. Dont laud Tutu too fast. He is typical of the saying...."Run with the hairs and hunt with the hounds". Lets wait and see what happends after the A.N.C top brass meet with Tutu. He might just sing a different tune. Remember "Once a Sailor always a Sailor".

  • GypseyAnn - 2011-10-05 13:29

    Their lack of enthuiasm in granting the visa is tantamount to denying it. Excuses come too late. I hope the world is watching closely - this country is fast becoming a dictatorship - Zimbabwe here we come ...

  • RainbowZombi - 2011-10-05 13:31

    Vote in Unity South Africa, STOP the 2/3rd majority at least. To all the smaller parties please form one party so that we are heard as a nation and that the tyrant is removed from power. Please you as party leaders unite us and we will vote!!!

  • Jakes-cpt - 2011-10-05 13:33

    Not denying the visa is exactly the same as not approving. When did you want to approve this Visa? An hour prior to his departure? Julle is 'n klomp ape man!

  • Neo - 2011-10-05 13:34

    Sit... Stay.... gooood dog.

  • nyatiphotography - 2011-10-05 13:34

    Of course you denied the VISA, you took so long, it was quite evident that you did not want to upset China - probably because of the back hand deals the Govt is getting

  • Jason - 2011-10-05 13:34

    lies - lies and more effing lies - whats new!! His VISA wouldve been granted if he never cancelled his trip - Government must think we are stupid!!

  • terry - 2011-10-05 13:35

    In typical ANC fashion they are being economical with the truth! There are two ways to deny granting a visa - the first way is to openly say 'No - you can't come to SA' (at least you then have the balls to make a conscious decision and tell that person), and the second way is to just place obstacles in the path of the application, and delay making a decision until the reason for the application for the visa has passed, and it then makes no sense for that person to come to the country any more. Zuma and his government just don't have the balls to openly tell everyone that they would rather trade with China (and put money in their own pockets) then have someone like the Dalai Lama vist SA.

  • freak23 - 2011-10-05 13:37

    i blame apartheid 'hiding'

  • bill - 2011-10-05 13:37

    the only one who gains by this is the Dali Lama, he has shown us all how to behave well done sir you showed us all up

  • brett.macdonald1 - 2011-10-05 13:38

    Rubbish! If this was the case, the Deputy President would be doing damage control today by apologising and offering the Visa today. Instead nobody is offering the Visa even now?? Who do these idiots in our Chinese (I mean ANC) government think they're fooling?

  • petro.mostert - 2011-10-05 13:39

    We knew they were going to say that! Amazing that our Government is so "transparent" that we can predict their next press release - verbatim!

  • Jill Nash - 2011-10-05 13:39

    Tutu deserves an amazing birthday, with amazing people, but no - we cant even get that right. You dont understand why we dont get more tourists and visitors after the world cup!!!!!! Work it out, we dont welcome them.

  • keithb - 2011-10-05 13:40

    Wonder if Gaddafi would have had to wait??? With or without passport.

      Philip Kleynhans - 2011-10-05 15:07

      What do you mean, They simply would've go and fetch him without a visa

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-10-05 13:40

    How stupid does Clayson Monyela and the ANC think we are? Wipe your chin Clayson, there still a bit of BS stuck on it. Now we all know whose side the ANC government is on. No Dalai Lama but lots of Mugabe, Gaddafi and any other dictator in between including China!

  • Fredster69 - 2011-10-05 13:42

    No you did not, you just did not get around the laziness in doing it

  • tootingdel - 2011-10-05 13:42

    What weasely words from a bankcrupt government. The visa could have been issued automatically within hours if the government wanted to. Bet any chinese govt official wouldn't have to wait up to 2 months to get one - nor the govt's corrupt cronies in other parts of Africa or eastern europe for that matter. Please Zuma and your henchpeople just tell us the truth - you did not want to issue a visa to upset your corrosive comrades in china and hoped the Dalai Lama would run out of time. That's exactly what happened. Again shame on you all!

  • Gavin - 2011-10-05 13:42

    Their strategy was to draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag out the process which would make the application redundant. Mugabe, a sanctioned person, send his wife Disgrace to shop here in Sandton every 3 months with out an issue. But a spiritual leader is denied access. You reap what you sow my Chinas.

  • Vanessa M - 2011-10-05 13:46

    No they did not deny the Dalai Lama a visa. Instead, they made a tactical move by delaying the process as much as possible, creating a public outcry against the government - so much so, that the Dalai Lama cancelled his trip. The SA Government got exactly what they wanted. China must be really good in the political sack.

  • Andre - 2011-10-05 13:47

    Tsotsi's and Zombi's

  • AS - 2011-10-05 13:47

    Robert Mugabe - welcome Dalai Lama - not welcome It is very clear to me who rules South Africa....and it's not the ANC or for that matter JM....I would go as far as to say maybe China. What a shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • donnaveen.howe - 2011-10-05 13:47

    This is rubbish. The Department was deliberately using delaying tactics. South Africa would rather welcome a nation that destroy our sea life and our wildlife than a wonderful "man of peace and integrity". Probably because they don't know what it is to behave with integrity.