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SA govt sending plane to fetch collapse survivors

2014-09-21 14:03

Lagos - The government is expected to send an aircraft to Lagos, Nigeria on Sunday to evacuate survivors of the church tragedy that killed 86 South Africans.

According to the Sunday Independent, officials confirmed on Saturday that the bodies of those killed when a six-storey guest house collapsed at the Synagogue Church of All Nations’ (Scoan) compound in the capital would stay there for now, while forensic experts tried to identify the remains.

Officials said that the plane, which will carry medical personnel, would remain briefly on the ground in Lagos to load the injured South Africans before returning home.

It is believed at least 30 South Africans are in hospitals in the Nigerian capital. They are apparently under guard by security employed by Scoan.

These guards are allegedly preventing the media and relief workers from speaking to the South African survivors, reports the Sunday Independent.

Social workers on standby

South Africa has however, mobilised a massive effort to deal with the aftermath of the tragedy.

Apart from sending in forensic experts to deal with the bodies, government has also sent in doctors to treat the injured and counsellors to help the injured and their families.

Social workers are also at OR Tambo to support families waiting for injured relatives.

But, reports have emerged that the head of the church, Prophet TB Joshua tried to bribe Nigerian journalists on how to report the story of the guest house collapse.

Nigeria also appears to have deliberately blocked access by South African journalists to avoid negative publicity.

Growing scepticism

South Africa’s intervention comes more than a week after the fatal event that has claimed 84 South African lives.

At the time a total of 349 South Africans were in Lagos on matters connected to the church when the building collapsed.

Last week however, News24 reported that there was growing scepticism among locals in the Nigerian capital with regards to the self-proclaimed prophet TB Joshua who claims he can heal anything from disabilities to cancer and HIV/Aids.

One Nigerian said on Friday that the families of all the deceased should sue him.

“Obviously, with what happened last Friday, Pastor TB Joshua has no spiritual powers after all. He is fake. How come he didn’t see the disaster coming?” asks Tunde Dada, a civil servant.

“For someone who has falsely predicted or foretold events in the past, one would have expected him to also see last Friday’s event happening.”

“I am beginning to suspect the activities of the man who called himself a man of God,” Bamidele Jimoh, a student at the University of Lagos, told News24.

“Just last year, some worshippers in his church in Ghana died at a stampede, a tragedy which led to a ban on his activities in that country.

“Why would miracle seekers meet their sudden death at a place claiming to be the house of God? TB Joshua has not told Nigerians and the rest of the world the cause of all this.

“The families of all the deceased (in the Lagos) should sue T B Joshua,” Jimoh said.

High school teacher Ganiyu Hamza was less sceptical though because he says Joshua gives to the poor and needy.

“He should, however, accept blame for this disaster and not push everything to God who is innocent in all this. Raising a 2 storey building to six without firm support and approval from government to me is not justifiable.”

Comments
  • Lunga Tshiamo Dikoloti - 2014-09-21 14:17

    They shouldn't make a mistake and fetch Nigerians to south Africa

      Lungile Malumla - 2014-09-21 15:10

      You mean poor identification can brought us another trouble to SA.gagagaa I am scared of ibola.

      feikmc.heither - 2014-09-21 16:48

      Lol

  • Hlekanezitha Nxumalo - 2014-09-21 14:19

    My fellow south Africans beware of false prophets, where you are God is looking at you and listening to your prayers: don't be victim of a liar who claim to be a man of God

      Mc Apple - 2014-09-21 15:12

      And who said this is not Gods will? Maybe god has had enough. Maybe this is the way to level the play field. End of days, famine, sickness, earth quakes and disasters. Maybe this is a nice clean way to get Ebola into South Africa because the CIA wants revenge on the ANC vets. Anyone going to "scan" these traumatized citizens when they get back? How about the bodies? Makes one think nê.

      Koos Luerre - 2014-09-21 16:11

      You mean some prophets are NOT false? That will be a first for humankind...

      Siphiwo Ratsibe - 2014-09-30 16:29

      I just have one question to ask, I know that this is a burning issue, but I just need everyone to look into their hearts and ask themselves one question, 'If they were around at the time of Jesus, at the time He was on the Cross, when everyone was making fun of Him, saying "HE COULD SAVE OTHERS WHY CAN'T HE SAVE HIMSELF", saying to Him "PROPHESY, WHO HIT YOU?" When they were taking turns to Spit on his Face. Which person would you have been, would you have been one of those, who followed Jesus, or one of the People who shouted "CRUCIFY HIM - CRUCIFY HIM". My Friends, sometimes God allows trouble to come our way, so we can see what WE really believe in. I warn you, with all humility in my heart, Judge yourselves before you can Judge others, for you do not really know who those people really represent. And by the way, did you know that the name 'Joshua' literally means "JESUS"?

  • Bonny Daniel - 2014-09-21 14:30

    May the souls of the departed rest in peace,at least theres people who cares about the survivors unlike fake prophet that doesn't care,i hope and wish that herbalist/occultist in the name of prophet should be arrested and held accountable to explain what happened.

  • Nkululeko Page Ngwenya - 2014-09-21 14:35

    I read that him and his church declined a South African doctor access who was close by when the incident happened. He also did so to the SA rescue team for days, everyone knows help within 24 hours in such cases is crucial yet they resisted. President Goodluck Jonathan only went to the site this weekend and started responding to Zuma and his team right now, the same slow, uninspired response he had for the abducted 200 Chibok girls... glad these people are being seen for who they are, sad it is at the price of so many lives, South African and otherwise.

  • Themba Dzenga - 2014-09-21 14:36

    looks to me like the South Africans and SA government are in awe of the Nigerians and Nigerian government in general

      Mc Apple - 2014-09-21 15:13

      It is called, financial interests.

  • pmalungana - 2014-09-21 14:37

    I declare 100 days of morning

      Scouter Four-One - 2014-09-21 14:40

      That's a lot of continuous daylight to declare.

      Mirnix Dirnix - 2014-09-21 14:55

      with Paid salaries?

      Thokozani Mahlangu - 2014-09-21 14:55

      I wish you were one of the victims bloody fool

      Bra Tabs - 2014-09-21 16:10

      100 days of morning - that sounds like a great movie.

      Thokozani Mahlangu - 2014-09-21 18:27

      and that movie 100 days of mourning should include words like "starring Hasan "the drooling fool" P"

  • Thokozani Mahlangu - 2014-09-21 14:47

    we are going to finance that trgedy aswell, the state is wasting to much money already on matters it shouldnt. the false prophet businessman and nigerian gov should see to it that they are brought back not the state. i feel no sympathy for these lunatics

  • Joumase Kolpak - 2014-09-21 14:53

    Wtf with my tax money?

      Mc Apple - 2014-09-21 15:18

      For once I give my consent for the use of my tax money. The ANC politicians will just have to suck it up and not steal any tax money for at least 3 days or so.

  • Hasani Booysen Hlungwana - 2014-09-21 14:58

    I dont like these magician preachers... at all... that church robed our people of their belongings and lives...

      Joumase Kolpak - 2014-09-21 15:04

      Anc doing the same to you people

  • Rameez Mookadan - 2014-09-21 15:06

    I sympathise with all those affected but in a serious note. ...I hope this does not mean they are exemoted from being screened for ebola

  • Rameez Mookadan - 2014-09-21 15:07

    I sympathise with all those affected but on a serious note....I hope this does mean they are exempted from being screened for ebola

  • Robbie Duvivier - 2014-09-21 15:08

    84 dead and we send a plane to fetch the survivors according to this article, 94 people are killed here in two days, these people were not murdered by choice while those that went to Nigeria did so of their own free will. Should that money not be spent to stop the murders here?

  • Bucky Iroju - 2014-09-21 15:10

    HOW IS HE GOING TO BE SUED WHEN THE NIGERIA PRESIDENT RUSHED THERE PURPOSELY TO CONDOLE AND PROBABLY TO REASSURE HIM OF PDP SUPPORT AND HIS IMMUNITY IN CASE SOME PEOPLE SUMMON THE COURAGE OF TAKING HIM TO COURT.

  • rorypreddy - 2014-09-21 15:11

    War. I say we declare war!

  • Rocky Bell - 2014-09-21 15:19

    NEWS24.....WHY DO YOU DELETE MY FIRST HAND, GENUINE, REAL INTERACTIONS WITH THE SEXWALES IN FRANSCHHOEK AND MORE SO CLOSE THE COMMNENTS WITHIN A FEW MINUTES. YOUR REAL ITENARIRY SHOWING HOW BIASED YOU ARE. HAS GWEDE SILENCED YOU AGAIN.........NEWS24 ANOTHER DADRE PUPPET!!!!!!

      Avela Khuluse - 2014-09-23 15:29

      im pretty sure its because you were talking nonsense @Rocky Bell

  • Robert Magaya Cele - 2014-09-21 15:20

    Do that devil TB with his 10m should able to buried their love one. Or attend the funeral?

  • Nox Noxy - 2014-09-21 15:37

    No where is my comment?

  • Jayden Sissing - 2014-09-21 15:38

    Judas (TB Joshua) your tree is waiting for you!

  • Tshifhiwa Mudau - 2014-09-21 15:38

    How did they get there?south africa is wasting our tax money on unnecessary things,,,

  • Festus Chukwu - 2014-09-21 15:39

    you enjoy writing negatives and evil news why? May God forgive you all news writer at News24. what you wish to one, will be wished upon you too agents of satan, News is fine but you must write something that will or to educate and encourage your readers and audience and not bad bad things and hypocritical news.

  • Nox Noxy - 2014-09-21 15:39

    No where is my comment?

  • Nox Noxy - 2014-09-21 15:41

    They are now the liability of the government,dammit man

  • Nenio Makhosini - 2014-09-21 15:42

    Flying an empty plane to Nigeria is a waste. Why cannot the government invite Nigerians who are in SA illegally to get a free ride home?

      Mc Apple - 2014-09-21 15:44

      Probably some ANC politician smuggling a little powder. I doubt they will let a chance like this slip.

      Johan van Wyk - 2014-09-21 17:19

      This government is stupid.

  • Azana Booi - 2014-09-21 16:33

    Is any of these officials thinking about EBOLA at all????

      Bongani Mthembu - 2014-09-21 16:53

      This plane could bring it here…

      Bongani Mthembu - 2014-09-21 16:53

      This plane could bring it here…

      Kelem Jude - 2014-09-21 17:04

      how can they think of ebola when nobody has died or gotten infected in over a week ? libreria, serrea lone and Guinea are the only countries currently harboring cases of ebola ..

  • Ffubu-pc Ffubu - 2014-09-21 16:39

    News24 u are the false one, I quote u saying that tb joshoa raising the dead ,when and where did he done that? Uall mmediau going to nigeria to mock tb joshua, get life please, he just a human being like us, what happened has happened, after all he never call some1 to go there.

  • Mike Gooderson Lovatt - 2014-09-21 17:00

    Why?

  • Makzino Mphuthi - 2014-09-21 17:01

    nigerians dont believe in that guy but south african do how stupid is our people and it seems only south africans worshipes in that churce hence only them died

      Thandi Mabunda - 2014-09-21 17:11

      hw foolish south Africans are. dey leave God infront of their eyes. I mean GOd is evetywehr we are.

  • dahliakt - 2014-09-21 17:08

    No matter what happened we are praying for you TB JOSHUA.these are just world's tribulations from the devil to keep people away from God.i will not doubt,I will continue to believe that you are a true man of God...

      fred.amanaha - 2014-09-21 17:43

      May you also die, foolish woman.

      fred.amanaha - 2014-09-21 17:43

      May you also die, foolish woman.

      Clifford Ymcmb Juwakie - 2014-09-21 19:30

      You are such a stupid like your prophet. Idiot

  • Francis Mthembu - 2014-09-21 17:11

    From look of things, majority of us South Africans are gullible because we looking for quick fix road to riches and lavish lifestyles.What a shame and embarrassing situation...on newspapers the world over 'South Africans die in Lagos at miracle prophet'. Not seeking God but seeking miracles to a good life. Seek God while He is found...you don't need to go under the sea, on the mountain peaks, in the desert or to foreign lands...God, the Creator is right there where you are and He says(Jeremiah 33:3) 'call upon Me and I will show you great and wonderful things'

  • Lawrie Sathekge - 2014-09-21 17:28

    A wakeup call for Sa.GOD is everywhere unless u not talking about GOD of David and Jeremiah

      Muneyi Nesu - 2014-09-21 18:23

      If +300 SAs go to SCOAN-Nigeria every week, then there is something that is saul and life transforming there which they may not have found here. And SAs have been going there weekly since 1999 and no one asked or said anything.

      Robert Magaya Cele - 2014-09-21 19:22

      These peoople would not here you cause they are disperate for wealth not GOD.

  • Lawrie Sathekge - 2014-09-21 17:29

    A wakeup call for Sa.GOD is everywhere unless u not talking about GOD of David and Jeremiah

  • Sipho Mbuyazi - 2014-09-21 17:30

    Its a pity no justice will be served for the loss of innocent lives. The Nigerian government and the church are seemingly hiding something and worse preventing rescuers for helping despite that they lack expertise. Even more shocking the so called Preacher tried to bribe the reporters .. I know we have different beliefs but the church is for praising the load and not for seeking fortune, getting someone to tell you about your future , not to ask for powers etc. What next ... ?

  • Ffubu-pc Ffubu - 2014-09-21 17:39

    Yes GOD is everywhere including nigeria, so what your problem

  • Ffubu-pc Ffubu - 2014-09-21 19:30

    Dr anita, thanks. This media people are hypocrite some time, imagine they went as far saying tb Joshua claimed to raise the dead, that lie, he be doing his job over 15 years or so, this things never happened, now they want to mock him simple as that, and if I may ask y only sa that get killed? What abt other nation?

  • Pieter Vermaak - 2014-09-22 08:28

    Why must we as tax payer pay to bring those people back did we take then their.

  • The Illuminated One - 2014-09-22 09:22

    Oh Zuma, trying to face aren't you? Soo stupid using tragedy to better your own self image!

  • Nwokye Ozioma - 2014-09-23 11:24

    At least SAfricans now know that their citizens also flock to Nigeria. When you guys start whining of how we come to your country someone will think SAfricans never come to Nigeria. We all need each other. As for Zuma sending plane, he has done what a good president should do.

  • Siphiwo Ratsibe - 2014-09-30 16:33

    JUST TELL ME HOW MANY PEOPLE SURVIVED?

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