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SA man caused horror Zambia crash

2013-02-08 12:57

Lusaka - A South African farm manager is suspected of causing an accident where more than 50 people died near Lusaka, Zambia, the SABC reported on Friday.

Zambia police spokesperson Elizabeth Kangela told the public broadcaster a vehicle, a bus, and a truck were involved in the accident.

The vehicle, supposedly belonging to the South African, tried to overtake the bus and collided with the oncoming truck.

"He [the man] is believed to be South African. He is receiving treatment at the moment so we have not charged him yet," Kangela said.

Agence France Presse reported on Thursday that the bus, carrying 73 people, and the truck collided, killing 53 people.

Meanwhile, President Jacob Zuma on Friday sent his condolences to the people of Zambia following the accident.

"Our hearts go out to the families, relatives and friends of the deceased. Our thoughts are with the injured as we wish them a speedy recovery," Zuma was quoted saying in a statement.

A government official, quoted by AFP, described the accident as one of the country's worst.

Comments
  • kyle.mclaren1 - 2013-02-08 13:03

    So now JZ gets talkative but remains silent when thousands are slaughtered in our country daily

      zip.reeper - 2013-02-08 13:19

      what is this "vehicle"? african journalism, pah! it could have been a bicycle for all we know.

      blipsie - 2013-02-08 13:27

      This is a lie. The driver accused of causing this is said to have passed the bus. However his vehicle was hit on the right side, NOT THE LEFT. Because the bus (government owned) passed him and hit the oncoming truck. These busses drive horribly. Now the foreigner gets blamed. As usual.

      ohbizz.chabata - 2013-02-08 13:57

      I wish JZ could be struck by lightning but come on!!!! He is just sending his message of empathy to the Zambian nation after they lost 70 lives in an accident. International relations really. As for Blipsie's account..."the RSA driver passed the bus....and the bus passed him and hit an oncoming truck..." phew!

      The_Don_@_Nkandla - 2013-02-08 14:10

      Yep, strange that he now all of a sudden sympathises left, right & centre. He was told at Mangaung to show leadership and because he just doesn't have the wherewithal what's better to sit back & wait for others to make the news - however sad & tragic - and then to issue a bland statement quickly prepared by ol' Mac and his speech writers. Active leadership ANC style...

      hein.huyser - 2013-02-08 14:20

      My thoaghts exactly. Every four munites we have a rape but jz is silent on that

  • THESNIPER - 2013-02-08 13:04

    and I thought people left their bad driving habits in South Africa when they go abroad. its a shame,.,,,

      david.boswel - 2013-02-08 13:25

      40% of road deaths are drunk/sober people crossing the highways and roads, maybe a little less black label corts and more using the bridges especially built so that people can cross the highways and roads!

      ohbizz.chabata - 2013-02-08 14:00

      David are you sure? Whenever we have major public holidays it is common to hear of hundreds of people dying in car accidents but seldom hear that it was a drunk pedestrian who ought to have crossed the highway at a foot bridge...40% seems inflated bro

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2013-02-08 14:35

      Obizz it looks like you do not read a lot. 40% + is the accurate figure. Yet the focus is on the drivers.

      amelia.basson - 2013-02-08 15:35

      Read the article again ... "The vehicle, supposedly belonging to the South African, tried to overtake the bus and collided with the oncoming truck". 2 Paragraphs down: Agence France Presse reported on Thursday that the bus, carrying 73 people, and the truck collided, killing 53 people". Now who collided with who? This is a confusing article!

      gail.hayesbean - 2013-02-09 10:20

      The facts in the media are seldom 100% accurate and people should ALWAYS read the article and then think before they respond. This is no different to the article about the woman suing her husband for R1,3 million after supposedly denying him sex for 7 years. Everyone blamed her when in reality he may well have been sleeping around. We also have this ridiculously politically correct reporting where the perpetrator is not adequately described in terms of melatonin because it is offensive to "People" and this results in all kinds of wild speculative commenting. Well, ohbizz is trying to be objective here and for that he deserves applause. Blipsie seems to have a different grasp of the actual events and is trying to clarify things. Regardless JZ sent condolences because it was IAfricans who died - always disastrous in his books. He doesn;t comment on crime and rape since he is seen as a criminal by many and although acquitted, a rapist. He is wise to keep quiet on those subjects as then he could be accused of calling the kettle black. Sad for everyone involved.

  • koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2013-02-08 13:09

    When in Zambia and Malawi or most of the African countries I have been in the old saying “When in Africa do as the Africans do” can get you in a lot of trouble if you are not African in appearance. I can’t believe the story let on that there are no “driving problems” in Zambia. Anyone who has driven in Zambia and especially at night will tell you that if you survive you are lucky. Those roads are pretty much a free for all.

  • william.bromehead - 2013-02-08 13:17

    something sounds wrong here south african overtakes another vehicle and is being treated for injuries ??? sounds like bus was speeding and un roadworthy if I know zambia

      david.boswel - 2013-02-08 13:38

      I believe one may assume that a bus in Zambia is un-roadworthy just by the lack of service stations for buses and lack of funds for services?

      deon.louw.7505 - 2013-02-08 13:45

      It sounds wrong to me t0o. Yesterday it was reported as an accident between a bus and a truck. The bus or truck was probably trying to pass the South African and hit the other vehicle head on? If a car crash into a truck or a bus no one survives in the car is probably what William meant.

      Blipsie - 2013-02-08 13:54

      Deon this is exactly what happened. The SA man's vehicle was hit by the bus on the RIGHT SIDE and not the left. The bus is owned by the government and the truck was on an illegal trip to export mealie meal. The farmer is getting the blame to divert attention.

      gail.hayesbean - 2013-02-09 10:24

      Blipsie, you obviously have information which is not in the public domain. What is your connection and how did you obtain this info?

  • john.silver.3572846 - 2013-02-08 13:21

    those roads are beyond shocking.. period. shocking event.

  • annemariebotha.lanigan - 2013-02-08 13:50

    Rubbish reporting as usual. At the beginning of the article, the south african in his vehicle collided with the truck, yet you mention that Agence France Presse report that the bus and truck collided. What is the correct version before the judge and jury of news 24 readers hang the man without trial. Ridiculous!!

      Blipsie - 2013-02-08 15:23

      The farmer is not South African, but white. The farmer is 70 years old and his vehicle was clipped on the right side and not the left. Which is quite impossible if he was overtaking the bus as said. Witnesses saw the bus driving at breakneck speed into the truck. The bus is government owned. Hence the blame shifting

      konstabel.koekemoer - 2013-02-08 16:31

      I have to agree about the bad N24 reporting, if you read the Zambian Post site you get a much better description of the accident ... "Witnesses including motorists that were behind the bus and villagers that were at the scene when the fatal accident happened between 07:00 hours and 08:00 hours said that a Toyota Land Cruiser driven by a white man from Mkushi overtook the bus but found himself facing the oncoming Hermis truck that tried to swerve to avoid hitting the Cruiser and instead collided with the bus, resulting in 51 people dying on the spot."

  • DrGonzoSA - 2013-02-08 13:58

    Interesting to compare and contrast the comments about a recent accident involving a Zambian in South Africa....

  • lois.lloyd.1238 - 2013-02-08 14:01

    So now we are exporting our wonderful driving skills!

  • PieterJGSwart - 2013-02-08 14:02

    I expect JZ to send condolences to the Farmers every single time there is a farm murder...

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2013-02-08 15:19

      And everytime there is a murder in the rural and township as well as in the urban areas, must be nice to be a president, you have no time for other things but sending condolences to every family of the deceased.

      jenny.webbe - 2013-02-09 13:26

      My thoughts exactly - has even ONE ANC minister ever condemned farm murders or even addressed the problem? I guess that JZ is careful of condemning rapists, having been on trial for that crime himself. Would be such a nice change to have a government who appears to care about all the people in SA, not just cronies and cadres :(

  • Scaramouche - 2013-02-08 14:19

    Was the bus overladen????Hmmmmmm?

      diran.pillay - 2013-02-09 07:13

      @ Blipsie, where did you get all this info from?

  • Tiaan Liebenberg - 2013-02-08 14:20

    Typical african response - always someone else, never their responsibility. The useless road surface, bus and truck that is not roadworthy and overloaded, idiots that cannot drive just cannot be the reason.

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2013-02-08 15:15

      Tiaan, u are now rumbling.

  • phillip.joubert.56 - 2013-02-08 14:22

    S h I t it must be white other wise it would not be so big news. If it is black the driver must be a TAXI driver of SOWETO who flee the county because of all his out Standing fines. Presie Zuma wow 100 people died daily in your countree is that then normal A s s h o l e

  • Eterni80 - 2013-02-08 14:23

    JZ has a lot to say about the world outside his palace - and nothing about events closer to home. I look forward to the day they lock him up and the day his mentor in Zim kicks the bucket.

      cujimmy.okpall - 2013-02-08 14:53

      Total agreement. Don't you think the spokesman issued statement? Zuma is in the underground bedrooms behind 'De Fence' you paid so much tax for.

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2013-02-08 15:13

      Get your facts in order, just becouse you chose not to read about it doesnt mean he didnt comment about it.

  • funiabsalomndala.funi - 2013-02-08 14:35

    Charge him with treason.

      martin.brink.965 - 2013-02-08 14:42

      You do have a great sense of humour!

  • RyanG - 2013-02-08 14:35

    What does being a farmer have to do with the accident? What if he was a bank teller? Would the report say "A South African bank teller is suspected of causing an accident where ...." Is this meant to be fuel to an already ranging bonfire of farm deaths? I'm sure people of all different professions have accidents.

  • vanessa.luckhoff - 2013-02-08 14:47

    @ Stanley...what about all our road deaths...I take it that all the irresponsible taxi drivers, and bus drivers, as well as Code 10 drivers responsible for these deaths should also be strung up by the balls!

  • vanessa.luckhoff - 2013-02-08 15:17

    @ Stan...Lol!U chop!

      regte.boer - 2013-02-08 15:28

      That is being too kind to the idiot.

  • Cobus Britz - 2013-02-08 16:09

    it was a farm manager...........

  • markjack.deppe - 2013-02-08 19:05

    We are all going into a speculative frenzy before the facts. Not having seen any photos and not knowing what type of road the accident happened on if I should follow the caption, the driver of the vehicle overtook the bus and collided with an oncoming truck. So the driver of the vehicle is only injured and what is the bus then doing in the lane of the truck. Facts are totally insufficient to draw conclusions.

      mulenga.kasama - 2013-02-10 14:57

      the SUV hit the oncoming truck and trailer and veered off the road, the truck lost control and hit into the 70 seater post bus loaded which the SUV was trying to overtake. The man will be charge and pay a fine. It was an accident. Period. It would have happened to anyone

  • calvin.mbhele - 2013-02-08 22:21

    SA man causing accident_wow what an article,so all the accident here in Mzantsi are caused by South Africans? With so many imports in the country? Be it Pakistanians,Chinese,Somalians,Nigerians,Zimbabwens,Ethiopians you name it, but not even once I read article stating Indonesian man cause a deadly traffic in Joburg

  • eric.f.moloi - 2013-02-08 23:53

    Wht was he doing in Zambia if he was nt there for rhino horns dealings?i don trust ths SA farm managers

      gail.hayesbean - 2013-02-09 10:40

      You have a point Eric since according to blipsie there was an illegal load of mealie meal involved as well. It is just possible that he was working there as a farmer and had nothing to do with rhino horn smuggling but who knows. The reason so much fuss is being made is because he was white and in the wrong place and a large number of people died. It is an inflammatory statement deliberately printed to whip up anti white sentiment against farmers. N24 specialises in leaving out vital elements of stories in their eagerness to publish and score points. They are deliberately vague because there are so many haters of different kinds reading their site that vagueness feeds the number of comments. What about all the people killed in taxi accidents or left disabled every day in SA?

  • michael.dutoit.982 - 2013-02-09 04:49

    People, I live in Kenya and lived in Zambia before. The bus drivers and Matatu (Mini bus taxis) drive like maniacs. Up in Africa the is almost zero traffic law enforcement.

  • eric.f.moloi - 2013-02-09 05:36

    Some ppl will always protect their own whn involved in things like these,bt if he was black,de comments would be different n death penalty was going to be preached,its up to Zambian authority to seek justtice

      gail.hayesbean - 2013-02-09 10:49

      Eric, nobody is defending the person who was the cause of the accident - objectivity is important and the newspapers in Zambia give different facts. You are doing exactly what you accuse other commentors of doing. Hanging the white person just because he survived but was injured. It is possible that his vehicle was struck in the course of the accident by the bus or the truck - please note I am not saying that the white guy was innocent, merely that he was struck and involved. He was 70 years old, that doesn't mean he was a bad driver. The farmer may just have been black, the article doesn't say - what would you say then?

  • tony.vanniekerk.35 - 2013-02-09 11:48

    For some proper reporting on the matter, visit: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/130209/corrected-74-year-old-charged-over-deadly-zambia-bus-crash

  • solomon.quist.9 - 2013-02-09 12:59

    Was it that necessary to make the nationality of one of the drivers an issue? It was an accident and regrettably as it was, the news should not have been slanted to generate controversy further. The outpourings of most contributors would have been very different but for the xenophobic slant. Xenophobia seems to be more of an African pastime and takes varying guises. You do not have to be a human torch to have been a victim of xenophobia. The last time that I was back in my native West Africa, I amuse to find out that every petty malaise in the society was attributed to the Liberian refugees. Did I smile, thinking to myself, here we go again, the foreigner is always the ogre.

  • isabel.defaria - 2013-02-09 16:27

    Regardless who is to blame in this case South Africans are bad drivers they speed ,have no road courtesy for pedestrians or other motorists this is a fact. I have personally crossed a road on occasions and have first hand experience of how they drive. When a person crosses a road and a car is coming at a distance surely they should reduce the speed just in case something happens and the person does not make it across fall for instance but no they continue at the same speed. Bad drivers that is what they are period. We should introduce hazard training as part of the drivers course as they do overseas ..you have to be able to identify a possible hazard at a distance and reduce your speed.

  • mulenga.kasama - 2013-02-09 22:08

    Instead of making this issue about race, do a research on the story people are talking with little facts. If the man driving the land cruiser misjudged the distance of on coming traffic, what should the fully laden truck supposed to do. The facts are that he was overtaking the bus on a rainy day. He hit into the oncoming truck which in turn lost control and hit into the bus, which he was overtaking. It does not mean he is a bad driver. He just made bad choice that had a deadly outcome.

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