SA may get first Catholic saint

2012-03-12 08:50

Johannesburg - The Catholic Church will soon consider whether a South African man killed over 20 years ago should be proclaimed blessed - the first step towards sainthood - according to a Sunday Times report.

The man would be the first saint to be recognised from South Africa, the weekly asserted.

Bendict Daswa, a businessman and devout Roman Catholic from rural Limpopo, was murdered in February 1990, aged 46, after rejecting claims of the existence of witchcraft in his village, Mbahe, near Thoyohandou.

A group of villagers beat him with sticks and rocks and poured boiling water over him. He had refused to participate in hiring a witchdoctor to help find those responsible for a series of lightning strikes in the area.

Joao Rodrigues, bishop of Tzaneen, said the diocese had thoroughly investigated Daswa's life and death and had sent a report to the Vatican.

"We believe he was killed in hatred of the faith which he professed privately and publicly," Rodrigues told the paper.

His diocese is now in the process of putting together a more detailed document, known as a positio. This would include a biography, testimonies, and documents such as Daswa's birth certificate.

The pope would make the final decision on Daswa's case.

Daswa was described in the report as a man of prayer who had dedicated his life to the church.

  • Lauden Kirk - 2012-03-12 08:52

    In god we all saints in human terms we fail. So how can a human make another a saint. I'm confused

      Wendy - 2012-03-12 09:48

      Lauden agree, not scriptural!

      tomesteban - 2012-03-12 09:53

      The Church doesn't "make" someone a saint. They cannot create this ontological reality. The Church only recognizes the prior fact that this person is in fact a saint (that is to say, someone in Heaven) and then proceeds to canonize the person (if they are worthy of emulation - if their life and death is commendable as a Catholic Christian). Also, not sure what you mean by saying that in 'god' (God, you mean) "we all saints" and "in human terms we fail". It's rather the opposite. We're all nothing compared to God; yet how often as humans do we believe ourselves to be saints? Only through recognition of God's glory and power are we humbled enough to stop thinking that as humans we're the be-all-end-all.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-12 10:15

      @tomesteban - Sorry, to break this news to you but the god you have been worshiping and financially assisting simply does not exist. I would ask the Vatican and the pope for your money back if I were you.

      Johan - 2012-03-12 10:40

      Isn't it ironic - he died because he did not want to believe in the existence of witchdoctors. Yet he himself believed in the existence of supernatural beings.

      J-Man - 2012-03-12 10:44

      Humans decide EVERYTHING in religion....they even wrote, edited and published the "word of god"...

      tomesteban - 2012-03-12 10:45

      "He didn't believe in the existence of witchdoctors"???? Huh? Assuredly he did because he was killed precisely because he didn't want to consult a witchdoctor... he didn't deny their existence. Good grief. What's ironic is the atheist brigade frothing at the mouth about a Catholic and yet being silent about the fact that a man was killed by people supporting witchcraft. Catholics get accused all the time of 'burning witches' yet when Catholics are martyred it's time to insult Catholics some more? Makes perfect sense in the topsy-turvy Godless world of the atheist.

      Nathan - 2012-03-12 11:00

      same way a human creates a god

      zaatheist - 2012-03-12 11:42

      @tomesteban - "What's ironic is the atheist brigade frothing at the mouth about a Catholic and yet being silent about the fact that a man was killed by people supporting witchcraft". BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahaah! Choke Said by the guy in a dress who represent the cult that imposed the Inquisition. Perhaps you can explin the difference between witchcraft and believing in devils, demons, talking animals, wizards, witches, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, zombies flying through the air and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories? Come on. Give it a go. You are the professional.

  • Jason - 2012-03-12 09:32

    Never heard of this very sad

  • Edwhynot - 2012-03-12 09:46

    St. Daswa day! Make it in April please! Then we have even less days to be productive in April...

      Deborah - 2012-03-12 10:43

      Ooh yes - the first of April would be a good day!

      Ashuvha - 2012-03-12 13:19

      You are never productive anyway,idiot.You got the job because you had nothing to do with your useless life,daddy got you the job.One of those useless idiots who don't know what to do with their lives after matric and go to england for a year or too to find themselves.

  • Arthur - 2012-03-12 09:48

    If you search the Bible, you find that saint's were a common word which refered to living people who followed the Lord. Saint refers to santified ones, those who were washed from their sins, sanctified by the Lord. It is only in the Catholic church that one has to be dead to be a saint. I assume that according to the Catholic church only one person will possible be walking in "when the saints go marching home" There are many verses in the Bible referring to the living as saints: " PHILIPPIANS 1:1 ΒΆ Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:" If you accept the Lord Jesus, and are washed from the evil nature you had before, Paul called you a saint.

  • tomesteban - 2012-03-12 09:48

    Report is a bit misleading; at the very least it is premature. Servant of God Benedict Daswa still needs to be declared Venerable, then he needs to beatified and only then will he be canonized as a saint in the Catholic Church. That could take decades. Having said that, I believe Servant of God Benedict Daswa is a martyr for Christ and His Church and I believe he has earned his glorious crown of martyrdom and enjoys the beatific vision and the company of Our Lady, all the angels and saints. This would be good for South Africa Catholics! S.o.G Benedict Daswa, ora pro nobis!

      zaatheist - 2012-03-12 10:17

      Keep selling the manure. Nothing like the smell of it when it gets close to home.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-12 11:48

      You are really going for the hard sell here. Obviously the "saint" thing has you really pumped up. "earned his glorious crown of martyrdom and enjoys the beatific vision and the company of Our Lady, all the angels and saints". Jeez! This is really putrid. Meanwhile, a starving child was praying for food, a cancer patient was praying for a miracle, and a woman was praying for her husband to stop beating her.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-03-12 13:11

      This is very exciting. I saw people canonized before. They don't fly far but they look pretty beatified after that.

  • Putin the " - 2012-03-12 09:54

    Who cares about this useless tax dodging schemes called churches!!

      Greg - 2012-03-12 10:16

      Rest assured, one day you will my friend.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-12 10:37

      Hey Putin Greg is threatening you will hellfire and damnation. Pathetic what brainwashed kids can be led to believe. Attention: Greg's god. Are you listening? I think you are a know nothing, do nothing, useless, embarrassing waste of human energy and money. You come on down here, show yourself so Godfrey can give you a good klap. Come on then, smite me now. Waiting ................... time passes ................. nothing. Waiting ................... more time passes ................. nothing. Waiting ................... even more time passes. Yaaaawn! ................. nothing. Oh, well! Seems he is working in mysterious ways again. So mysterious it is almost as if he simply does not exist. PAH!

      Heiku - 2012-03-12 10:37

      When you are able to benefit from them financially or emotionally then i guess you will care.

      J-Man - 2012-03-12 10:46

      @ must know things no-one else (really) does.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-12 11:52

      @Heiku "When you are able to benefit from them financially or emotionally then i guess you will care". What in heaven' name does that mean? The only guys to really benefit financially are the the geriatric "virgins" in the frocks and funny hats. They take a big cut for themselves and toss a residual around to pretend how godly and charitable they are.

      Stephen - 2012-03-12 13:34

      @ZAATHEIST Are they really virgins? I don't consider child molesters to be virgins.

  • Andre - 2012-03-12 10:14

    Sainthood? Dedicated his life to the church? Shouldn't it be God? It is unbiblical. Can someone from the CC pls quote us a scripture to support this action?

      tomesteban - 2012-03-12 10:28

      Dedicating ones life to the Church is a service to God; since they are mystically joined. When St. Paul was persecuting Christians what did Our Lord say to him. Did He say "Why are you persecuting those Christians?" or did He say "Why are you persecuting me?"? Jesus identifies the Church as His mystical body of which He is the head. Service to building up the kingdom of God (that is, building up His Church) is service to God. There is nothing unBiblical about working for God - unless you are trying to say that in order to please God we shouldn't evangelize, worship Him publically or declare our faith despite persecution. My dear friend, it seems as if you are being unBiblical. As for your request I have one of my own. Can you quote me scripture to support your belief that every single thing must come from scripture, or that scripture is the rule of faith? I already know the answer: no. You can't. Sola scriptura is inherently self-defeating. In any case, please have a look at the following links for your edification. God bless you!

      zaatheist - 2012-03-12 10:40

      @tomesteban - Quite obviously you are a professional (I make my money peddling god) Catholic. Quoting from the Wholly Babble will not achieve anything. The bible is a book of fables and fairy tales: a work of fiction; a book compiled from the plagiarised texts of ancient religions by bronze age sheep herders; translated from Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek texts to Latin and edited by the Catholic Church, translated into English and re-edited by the Church of England as instructed by King James to conform with his views, and interpreted to fit the preexisting values of anyone who quotes from it,.

  • Cracker - 2012-03-12 10:15

    What's the use of more Saints? For what? Does it make the Saints more superior to others in heaven? A case of pulling rank or having more say in the granting of prayers by the ordinary fools downstairs? A true Saint certainly can't be dependent for Sainthood on what the Pope says. What BS! But now note: The Catholic Church believes only their members will be saved. All the other belief systems are wrong according to them.

      Gavin - 2012-03-12 10:31

      @Cracker. Wonder where you dug up that nonsense of only members of the CC will be saved? rather keep quiet when you don'y know what you're talking about.

      tomesteban - 2012-03-12 10:35

      Please do some research into the matter. The Church canonizes people so that we have good examples to follow; kind of like Christian celebrities (but in a much deeper sense!). Everybody in Heaven is a saint; but sometimes some people are canonized because God wants His glory to be made manifest through other people. This is simply God sharing His glory with us as he promised. Yes, the Church does teach that outside of Catholicism there is no salvation. This must be understood correctly though and I urge you to research the matter. As a start let me ask you to look at the sayings of Christ - did Jesus not say that nobody can go to the Father except through Him? Did Jesus not say that besides Him you cannot be saved? Or did Jesus rather say that it's okay to believe anything you like? No; He was clear that there is only one truth (Jesus is Truth) and He wanted His Church to be one, holy, catholic and apostolic. Please go read John 6 and tell me where this belief is found? Note: "Jesus said to them, "Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me."

      zaatheist - 2012-03-12 10:44

      @Craker Yeah! What stinking bovine excrement. The Catholic church, that's the Mafia in frocks! The same methods are employed by both organisations, in fact I believe the Mafia learned their tricks from the Catholic church. Fear Extortion Intimidation Protection racket Wow! And I got one threat to my my imaginary, theoretical afterlife today. I am really, really scared. What these guys don;t realise is this. Let us for a moment assume there is such a place as heaven. Nobody knows what it is like but we do know who is going to be there. Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, George Bush, Benny Hinn, hundreds of popes and Jeffrey Dahmer (who saved himself before his execution). Would you want to spend eternity with that bunch? No sirree! Not me. So lets see if the companions who we will meet in hell are likely to be more congenial. George Carlin, Christopher Hitchens, Albert Einstein, Mahatma Gandhi, Winston Churchill, Nelson Mandela, you name it all the interesting people are in hell. And where do the bad girls go, heh?

      Cracker - 2012-03-12 10:49

      @ Gavin The Pope said it. Look at the comment immediately below yours, what tomesteban says. "Yes, the Church does teach that outside of Catholicism there is no salvation." Pretty straightforward I think. How many other churches would you like to know of who say the same about themselves? Hmmm?

      tomesteban - 2012-03-12 11:22

      Astounding. The hypocrisy would be comical if it weren't so sad, inconsistent and hateful. Our dear friend Cracker persecutes Catholics for actually having the rationality, reason and logic to proclaim (as Jesus Christ proclaimed) that only Catholicism saves you. Yet at the same time, no doubt, he will make up a claim that Catholicism is illogical, contradicts itself etc. Since Christ has said that the only way to salvation is through Him; and since (as Catholics believe and can prove) Christ founded the Catholic Church (requiring a set of beliefs and conformity to the sacraments as instituted by Christ) it would only make sense to say that other religions are false and that (as history shows) other Christian groups are (to a greater or lesser degree) mere perversion of true and authentic Christian doctrine (which is not to say they are totally false since they have some elements of truth; and this is also not an attempt at ridiculing my seperated Protestant brethren). Instead of acknowledging the fact that the Church is at the very least consistant (why else would a Church proclaim to be the truth and then say that it doesn't matter what religion you are?) Cracker instead, like most of his ilk, takes the cowardly, irrational low-road and vomits forth the same vitriol and bile that he no doubt is only parroting from his High Priest Dawkins. When atheists are able to make coherent, intelligent objections it is always a fruitful debate. I urge Cracker to turn over a new leaf

      tomesteban - 2012-03-12 11:36

      For the record, most other Protestants also teach that outside their specific belief system one cannot be saved. Just look at the Protestant comments here about Catholics. Just ask a Lutheran about Catholics. They're hardly indifferent. Indifferentism is irrational. Cracker seems to think it makes more sense to say, "Hey, join my Church to be saved... but if you don't join my Church that's okay too!" then to say "Hey, join my Church to be saved because we have the truth!". Not only is the latter more rational and logically consistent - it's also more charitable. It would be an evil to let someone continue in a false belief. This is why refuting error is a spiritual act of mercy according to traditional Catholic theology. Pax vobiscum.

      Cracker - 2012-03-12 11:44

      @ tomesteban I couldn't help laughing when I read your comment. You totally misunderstand. Luckily some others are a bit more on the sharp end than you. I am not your dear friend by the way. You use that term because you despise me. Just thought I would point it out, MY DEAR FRIEND. You already find your church under attack here by adherents of the same religion based on the same bible. How ironic your situation. No need for a Richard Dawkins fan - not adherent or follower like in religion with priests at the helm, just a plain admirer of his brilliance - to point it out.

      zaatheist - 2012-03-12 11:55

      @tomesteban - You keeps name dropping this god fellow and jesus guy as if they are real. You cannot prove that your god exists, You cannot know for certain that your revelation is trust worthy and you have to eventually admit that your beliefs are entirely a faith position, unsupported by any evidence whatsover. You believe because others told you what to believe. You may claim the contrary, but then you are simply speaking from within a deep seated delusion. Come on - 1. Prove that gods exist, 2. prove that your version of your particular god is the 'right' one, 3. prove that Jesus Christ existed, 4. prove that he was the son of your version of your particular god, I am genuinely excited awaiting your response.

  • Yolokazi Lethabo Langeni - 2012-03-12 10:39

    I stopped at \He had refused to participate in hiring a witchdoctor to help find those responsible for a series of lightning strikes in the area.\ Nope, I refuse to take them seriously after that.

  • Deborah - 2012-03-12 10:42

    He rejected an irrational belief system in favour of ... an irrational belief system? For some strange reason, I don't feel greatly enthused by this story.

  • chris.khanye - 2012-03-12 11:26

    May His Soul Rest in Peace!

  • chris.khanye - 2012-03-12 11:35

    May His Soul Rest in Peace!

  • wesley.bischoff - 2012-03-12 13:10

    It's all a big bag of bullsh*t anyway...

      Earle - 2012-03-12 14:43

      Well said Wesley.. too true. Those with such strong religious sentiments should be allowed to go to supermarkets and be able to enjoy parking in bays designated for the disabled. Disabled as in mentally, forgive them, for they have not the ability to think for themselves. To put it more succinctly in a different avenue, those who supported the apartheid government are directly responsible for the f**k up we have at the moment. For those of you who disagree and believe you are above reproach, go and watch "A dry white season", based on the writings of Andre Brink.Religion too, has caused more murders than will ever be accounted for.

      Gary - 2012-03-12 15:43

      Earle, how do you connect the impending first saint of South Africa to people supporting the apartheid government! Plus for an atheist or non believer to attack the church only proves that we differ in our religion!

  • phinda.buthelezi - 2012-03-12 14:53

    Just a marketing stunt. A black pope is something to make waves about.

  • Noe - 2012-03-14 20:12

    God alone has the power,through the saving grace of Jesus Christ,to elevate any person to sainthood.The Bible is full of stories of saints who bear witness to God's saving grace in their lives and also by the way they died. For example: St Stephan Acts 7,60;St James Acts 12,1-2;St John the Baptist Mk 6,27; The martyrs in heaven Rev 7,14-15 and of course the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus himself in all the Gospel accounts. The Catholic Church has always recognised these heroes of the faith throughout the ages in harmony with the Bible.It certainly would be strange for the Church not to do so.

  • Desiree Rowe - 2013-12-12 14:31

    Ok and what miricles are credited to him. As A Catholic i know there is more than what has been said.

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