SA needs elite accident unit - DA

2012-07-04 16:58

Johannesburg - An elite accident unit needs to be established to investigate the causes of fatal accidents, the DA in Gauteng said on Wednesday.

"The SA Police Service (Saps) and metro police across the province must establish an elite unit to investigate accident scenes and report on all probable causes," said Democratic Alliance Gauteng road and transport spokesperson Neil Campbell.

A memorial service was held on Wednesday for 19 people who died when a Putco bus veered off a bridge on the R59 in Meyerton, south of Johannesburg on June 25.

"The inadequate mechanisms for investigating tragic bus accidents in Gauteng are an injustice to victims and their relatives," said Campbell.

A "lack of proper road accident forensics" added insult to the injury of the people left behind, because they did not get proper answers for the deaths, or waited months for an explanation, he said.

This also undermined transport operators and law enforcement agencies' efforts to curb fatal accidents.

Campbell said he would ask roads and transport MEC Ismail Vadi for an independent inquiry into testing centre operations and the issuing of roadworthiness certificates within the province.

Putco said the bus had passed a roadworthy test, but this was disputed by the Sedibeng municipality.
Transport Minister Ben Martin called for an investigation into the cause of the accident.

The Road Traffic Management Corporation had sent accident investigators to the scene.

  • scouter.fourone - 2012-07-04 17:02

    We have enough 'units' as it is ...... just demand that the police and the Metro authorities do their job properly. Good grief, that is what they are paid to do.

      Tony Lapson - 2012-07-04 17:16

      Agreed. It should be normal practice for a forensics specialist to examine each serious accident scene. Having an individual, specialized 'unit' should not be neccesary.

      grace.andtruth.77 - 2012-07-04 17:24

      Exactly!! Well said Scouter

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-04 17:29

      I agree, enough about re-arranging the chairs. just do the job properly.

      rbphiri - 2012-07-04 17:50

      One of the fatal accidents is Metro authorities, who prefer grazing at KFC with the bribery money they received, instead of doing their job. If unroadworthy vehicles and drunken drivers were removed off our roads, there would be less casualties and no need for an elite accident unit to investigate the causes of fatal accidents. It's just a simple matter of people doing their jobs PERIOD!!!

      Willie - 2012-07-04 17:52

      Metro police are been paid to drive around to look for bribes

      gieljam.gomtor - 2012-07-04 18:02

      Now that's really telling the Government it is failing in all areas . If we did not need them in the previous (wicked?) government why do we want them now? Another fat milking cow I think in the oftening...

  • grace.andtruth.77 - 2012-07-04 17:21

    Why do we need another 'elite unit'? Why can't people just do their damn jobs. Add the word 'elite' and the tax payers pay again! Also 'elite units' in SA means a free pass to slush funds and corruption!

      gieljam.gomtor - 2012-07-04 18:26

      Sorry to say elite in the present time here is as vague an name as can be . E-greed is the only term that really springs to mind.

  • chikunga - 2012-07-04 17:23

    we need better management from ANC and better accountabilty of all those who hold public offices minus those endless commitees which wastes a lot of money. Corrupt officials must be send to (SA)quatanamo bay.

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-04 18:21

      That's a bit harsh Chikunga - but on reflection, a good suggestion.

      fanie.gerber.98 - 2012-07-04 20:16

      have one Robben Island

  • Jake - 2012-07-04 17:26

    An elite unit, investigates and then what???get rid of the bribery and corruption in all facets of licencie testing and CORs and law enforcement AND problem solved. Also educate drivers on the horrors of disobeying road rules. Take a look at a private initiative called fatalmovesdotcom. Lots of great vids and pics and educational content.wwwfatalmovesdotcom

  • Ian - 2012-07-04 17:28

    SA needs an elite everything unit after what the association of national clowns has done to it

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-04 18:31

      Create a name and pay people, and magically it resolves the problem ..... prep school logic.

  • azande.futhi - 2012-07-04 17:30

    That is so unnecessary. Police just have to do their job the way they should. Enough about creating more and more units hoping to get better results.

      patsy.smith.125 - 2012-07-04 19:56

      Firstly, they have to have a decent education and then PROPER training. Half of them can't even write out a complaint never mind get an address correctly. It's pitiful - and dangerous

  • bob.small.7547 - 2012-07-04 17:36

    The accident in Durban yesterday involving 18 cars being rammed by a runaway truck, killing 3 people and injuring scores of others became more of a fiasco when Paramedics could not reach the victims quickly because Taxi busses were blocking the emergency lane as they tried to move head of the snarl up! What use is an elite team in a scenario like this unless they are flown in by helicopter! Our Paramedics are of a high standard, but getting them to some accident scenes on time is hampered by taxis that have no manners, ethics or half an ounce of consideration to their actions.

  • chadjason.wilson - 2012-07-04 17:37

    From a truly poltical percepective the DA must never associate themselves with letters arranged in the configuration resembling e....l...i....t....e

  • deon.vantonder.77 - 2012-07-04 17:43

    Bla bla bla bla. I just wish the politician would want to stay out of it. We have the solution to all the taxi accidents for years to curb speeding and overloading. We had many, many meetings with all parties involved. THEY DO NOT CARE. Check out some articles and you be the judge.

  • deon.vantonder.77 - 2012-07-04 17:45

    Check out the following article:

      stephen.redford.16 - 2012-07-04 18:46

      Good idea, but it simply won't address the real issues.

  • Henk - 2012-07-04 17:47

    No DA! rule breakers must be severly punished. Fot instance those yellow lane drivers, make them wait for 30 minutes. No number plates impound the car....but then again we have the ANC, they do not give a damn about the laws. Why should the rest?No

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-07-04 17:52

    What we need is effective policing of our roads to remove speedsters solid line overtakers *rsecreepers cell phones stuck to the ear blue light pricks et al !!! BUT they sit behind bushes and sleep all day!!

  • victor.tamaranui - 2012-07-04 18:01

    Reduce the Motorway maximum to 100km/h and 80km/h for vehicles above 3500kg......That will do it.

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-04 18:44

      This is Africa Victor in case you hadn't noticed. Stanford? - not according to public record...

      stephen.redford.16 - 2012-07-04 18:47

      And you expect better enforcement of these rules than the existing rules ?

      Jack - 2012-07-04 18:50

      no no no no Enforce road worthiness. Law enforcement must get out of the bushes and onto the roads.

  • terry.burne - 2012-07-04 18:08

    It's hardly rocket science - they can save themselves a lot of money (or better still pay it straight to my bank account) - I can tell them what the cause of the accident is 90% of the time! It is the failure of the majority of South Africans to OBEY THE RULES!!! This doesn't only apply to when they are behind the wheel - it applies to most things in South Africa. Simple really - just get people to obey the rules!

  • Erna - 2012-07-04 18:09

    Its no use lowering the speed limits while there is no visible policing. Watch how people toe the line as soon as they see a police car! Suddenly they remember all the rules.

  • samgaf - 2012-07-04 18:12

    What Sa needs is a new flippin goverment

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-04 19:18

      Where have you been for the past 18 years?

  • samgaf - 2012-07-04 18:15

    these bus drivers really should not drive under the influence of nicotene

  • stephen.redford.16 - 2012-07-04 18:43

    The minister of transport should be criminally investigated for each fatal accident. There should be a culture of no-repeats instilled. Each accident investigation should begin with the assumption that the department did not do enough to prevent the accident. Were there lines on the road ? Was a pothole involved ? EVEN checking the vehicle for roadworthiness comes back to the department - instead of speed traps we need officers pulling off roadworthy vehicles. In every incident I can point to a material aspect that the minster if failing to implement properly - from fake licensing to unroadworth vehicles to people not stopping at stop streets/robots. Until the minister is held liable and treats every incident as a crime, we will continue to have a culture of "oh-dear, how sad".

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-04 19:06

      In fairness Stephen, you can hardly hold the Minister accountable for every dumb action that occurs on the road. Vicarious responsibility does have a limit, even in Common Law ... You might as well blame the Minister for Social Services for every incident of child abuse that occurs.

      victor.tamaranui - 2012-07-04 19:25

      stephen...............Your argument is ridiculous. What are you on ??

  • jimzimbo - 2012-07-04 19:02

    An unusally stupid suggestion from the DA.....

  • Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-07-04 19:23

    Like i have said a thousand time most people in this country cant drive properly,driver education is needed when applying for a licence.The woman that turned in front of me today when i had right of way you are lucky i wasnt driving a truck i would have educated you very quickly.

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-04 21:18

      Mike you are a man after my own heart on this one - I've been trying to buy a Sherman tank on E-Bay, for a number of reasons. Apart from cruising over ignorant road users, it is infinitely hi-jack unfriendly.

  • lara.vanrooyen.1 - 2012-07-05 06:51

    As I don't have children at school I don't know what the curriculum looks like these days. When I was a child we had lessons in road safety at school. Daantjie Kat was the icon that told us what was safe and what not. Do children still learn this at school? If not, then maybe that is the place to start.

  • Ganon - 2012-07-05 07:13

    As much as I agree with what ever measures need to be taken but people if there are many people killing their wives, husband, children or relatives it is not easy to control. The point I'm making is that we have people who drive with egos, arragonce, they are cheeky, they 'don't care' about other people. If you are normal how can you drive 120 km/h in a built up area. We have so many people who do not care. I always tell people the problem with high speed is that a person will think the road is clear and immedietly when you get in, the other speedster is on top of you. The unroadworthy vehicles, if they can be eliminated then we are okay, this is linked with corruption of course. Corruption in the licence Departments & 'don't care' people on the road are the problem. Yoy overtake anywhere & do not follow the rules of the road (that is for insane people to me). People 60 km/s is a very high speed and 120 km/h is also very high but if you do 60 on designated area, you will never kill anybody the same applies to 120 km/h on a designated area, there will be less accidents. Unfortunately we have corrupt traffic officials, mad people with driving licences & guns, people driving with their titles & egos on the roads. Mzansi for sure!!!

  • zirk.burger - 2012-07-20 15:07

    Prevention is better than cure, but in the same line such a unit already exist in Gauteng.

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