SA sends more troops to CAR - report

2013-04-03 08:43

Pretoria - While government has come under fire for the way in which troops were deployed to the Central African Republic, it has emerged that South Africa has sent even more troops, fighter planes and transport planes to the region.

Beeld reported on Wednesday that the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) had denied being involved in a troop build-up.

But it is understood that Gripen fighter planes left the country on Tuesday, possibly heading for Entebbe in Uganda.

Three chartered aircraft - two Iluyshin 76s and one giant Antonov 124 cargo plane - are believed to have made several flights over the weekend to Entebbe and the DRC, taking off from Bloemfontein and the Waterkloof air force base near Pretoria.

Rooivalk and Oryx helicopters are also believed to have been deployed.

Chad talks

Meanwhile, discussions will take place in Chad on Wednesday where military intervention by South Africa in the CAR will be discussed at an extraordinary meeting of the Economic Community of Central African States.

More SA troops have also been positioned in the DRC, about 180km from the CAR capital Bangui to join the handful of SANDF soldiers who remained behind after a deadly battle in which 13 SA soldiers were killed.

Experts believe the military’s latest actions point to aircraft and weaponry being strategically positioned in anticipation of instructions that may arise from the meetings.

President Jacob Zuma arrived in Chad on Wednesday to attend the meeting.


  • Celeste de Lange - 2013-04-03 08:50

    Oooh ANC is serious about protecting their mining interests. And the taxpayer will foot the bill!

      Johan Van Der Vyver - 2013-04-03 08:54

      And then they deny having any commercial interests in the CAR !

      drsibusiso - 2013-04-03 10:16

      u talking nonsense do u have proof of what u talking about or you just commenting because u can

      Jackie Dee - 2013-04-03 10:49

      drsibusiso - the ANC haven't exactly denied it now have they

      Vin Savage - 2013-04-03 11:20

      @drsibusiso - Here is the proof - Seems you are just commenting because you can.... What does the 'dr' stand for? dumb ret--d..??

  • arc.con.98 - 2013-04-03 08:51

    O gits! Next thing we see fotos of rebels cruizing around with our Gripens that they captured :-(

      Anthony Kirby - 2013-04-03 09:31

      At least they cant send to many Gripens because we dont have the pilots to fly them.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2013-04-03 09:40

      No, no! the chief in command already worked out a plan against that. He only send them with a 10 Lt can of extra jet-fuel to Uganda ;)

      Robbie Crouch - 2013-04-03 11:34

      From the ridiculous to the sublime... aai tog!

  • Nicolus Magala - 2013-04-03 08:54

    is this a war?

      vambozha.mutemi.9 - 2013-04-03 10:31

      its revenge...Chuck Norris sent there

  • Matthew Thomas - 2013-04-03 08:54

    Why is SA supporting a leader who seized power in a coup? Why are editors failing to drive this point home?

      Jeffery Stokes - 2013-04-03 10:27

      If the DA was in control they would be doing the same thing. they would be protecting the interest of the companies that pay their bills. I don't think you people get how the world actually works. The west does it so what you are guys on about? Johan you telling me the capitalist Americans have better human right's record? you heard about Bush been warned away from landing in London because he was going to be arrested for human rights abuses during the Iraq war?

  • Whowants Toknow - 2013-04-03 08:56

    Nope, he wont get out of CAR. ANC and cronies losing money... read If he pulls out, where are ANC going to get money for next election with the imperial crown trading deal finally down the drain?

  • Quartus van Zyl - 2013-04-03 08:56

    HKGK.....hier kom groot moeilikheid!

  • Gerald Beer - 2013-04-03 09:01

    We have no business interests in CAR, we just dont like the fact that these rebels kicked out the previous rebel. Did we remember to pack ammo?

      Vin Savage - 2013-04-03 10:21

      The ANC has lots of business interests in CAR - as the article that was pointed to above confirms - Strange how N24 doesn't report on this..................

  • Mogolobaneng Solly Kubyane - 2013-04-03 09:01

    Wonder what will happen if the cANCer would not get a 2 thirds majority in the next elections! Time to prepare a passport or obtain some weapons for defending a non cANCer government. Boeremag ke hoop julle is gereed virdie een. So ver gee ek nie meer om nie. The captain of our ship is mad.

      nu_un_clear - 2013-04-03 09:30

      Funny you should say that, my friend and Gardner said the same thing to me yesterday, i laughed at him , but imagine if we had to look to the boere mag to come to our rescue, this country is going backwards at an alarming rate.

  • Nthato Thema - 2013-04-03 09:06

    If the ending of war in CAR is not going to steer the continent in a certain direction,then what's it worth.? Once again I disagree with the authority,and I still wait for them to prove me wrong. I hope there's a strategy to this mission.

      Vin Savage - 2013-04-03 10:25

      Yes, there is - arms and diamond contracts for the ANC and their 'business' cronies...

  • Cornelius Ndoyisile Mtongana - 2013-04-03 09:08

    it is okay ,lets show the world that we are not cowards.

      shannon.moffett.9 - 2013-04-03 09:13

      At what cost? How many soldiers must die, and how much money must be diverted from school building for the sake of ego?

      Mohau Chabeli - 2013-04-03 09:15

      I agree with u 100%. Lets show those rebels what we made of

      Fussed Anderson - 2013-04-03 09:17

      And how STUPID

      nu_un_clear - 2013-04-03 09:32

      So, join up and go...

      johan.mostert.967 - 2013-04-03 09:32

      I foresee another huge petrol price hike, to help sponsor this fiasco.

      Tersia Louw - 2013-04-03 09:54

      Cornelius - off you go to war then; that'll show the world you're not a coward. Mohau - suggest you go and show those rebels. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Also, note your word, "neighbourin"; not half a bloody continent away.

      Vin Savage - 2013-04-03 10:29

      What a stupid comment! The SANDF is only there to protect the diamond and arms interests of the ANC and Co..! It has nothing to do with being cowards! Do some homework and learn the facts!

      Jackie Dee - 2013-04-03 10:50

      Not cowards, only idiots fighting other countries wars to protect zumas assets

  • Guy Alain - 2013-04-03 09:12

    what are the motives of the president to CAR ? Bozize is no longer on the picture, why continu harassing these people ? if Zuma is looking for war , can someone tell zuma the story of David and Goliath.

      Vin Savage - 2013-04-03 10:31

      Here -

  • Leonard Mokgotlhwe - 2013-04-03 09:13

    Go and revenge the death of our killed soldiers. Do it for our country im 100% behind U ZUMA

      JMaree - 2013-04-03 10:47

      You should be in the first line of attack... ok?

      Jackie Dee - 2013-04-03 10:51

      Typical, you don't even know why they are there, zuma practically told all of us to shut up and watch like the good dictator he is.

  • Peter Zylstra - 2013-04-03 09:13

    Who the F..k gives idiot zuma the right to send SA's planes etc to fight another idiot's war ! this is beyond bizarre. Why must we fund this terrorist war while we have mayor problems at home!!!!

      Tersia Louw - 2013-04-03 09:56

      Yeah, Anthony Michael, 66% with 5% ANC education. It's the ANC way; keep 'em ignorant and they'll keep voting for us. You must be so proud.

  • Matthew - 2013-04-03 09:14

    First Jacob gets away with making the country pay for his lovely zuma-ville mansion. And now he sends our army to War (more than likely) for nothing more than his own personal interests. And the youth of today are being fed this nonsense properganda where "its great to die for your country" ."my country is so great,of course I'd sign up and die for it!" Yes,sure,we would all stand together and fight as brothers in a war for our country. FOR OUR COUNTRY ,not for this fat rapist pig that has made a disgrace of this country by being allowed to be its president. What the hell is going on with our beloved country This poisonous Polotics,this corruption, and the fact, that we as south africans, do nothing but stand and watch as it happens going "oh dear,well thats certainly not right, is it?"

      drsibusiso - 2013-04-03 10:33

      i understand your point but i get lost when u start attacking Zuma to me it sounds like u have a person issue with him ,but you are right with your point

  • nhlapop - 2013-04-03 09:14

    Is this a joke. I fail to understand why can’t we focus on our country, re-build our economy because it’s going down the drain. AGAIN, Any reason why those troops were sent to CAR? I always heard John Radio 702 asking the very same question, yet there is no answer. I think we must just leave this thing of CAR before we lose more troops, because clearly SADF can’t provide proper training to them, hence they were killed at CAR.

      Jackie Dee - 2013-04-03 10:52

      Please tell the other moron ANC supporters that we should sort our own issues first in our own country. They just want war these militant racists.

  • Bruce Gauld - 2013-04-03 09:15

    Its time for those rebels to eat some humble pie!! And I know those Rooivalk are up for the job!

      johan.mostert.967 - 2013-04-03 09:34

      The equipment was never the problem.

      mpho.kgakwakandlovu - 2013-04-03 09:37

      I don't know what the war is all about. But the devil inside me craves for the revenge of our fallen soldiers.

      Fussed Anderson - 2013-04-03 09:50

      @ Johan Mostert - It's the brains behind this lot

      Tersia Louw - 2013-04-03 09:58

      ... or the lack thereof.

      Jackie Dee - 2013-04-03 10:53

      mpho - so why support a war that makes no sense, or are you just out for violence like your fellow ANC comrades?

      mpho.kgakwakandlovu - 2013-04-03 11:35

      Jackie as I said I don't know what is it about. But I am afraid if we leave it like this those morons in CAR and the rest already here will think we South Africans are weak and cannot fight. Remember they killed our soldiers on a peace keeping mission.

  • jeremy thorpe - 2013-04-03 09:15

    So NOW they send fighters and helicoper gunships to the CAR - using Russian transport aircraft nogal! You have to admit, it looks as though they're trying hard to justify spending all the money on fighters which have so far never been used in earnest. But the real question is, why weren't all these choppers and fighters deployed much earlier? The reports say our soldiers fought a 13 hour battle against much stronger forces. If they'd had helicopter gunship support, then maybe we wouldn't have had 13 casualties - and maybe the CAR leader Bozizi would still be in power.

  • Guy Alain - 2013-04-03 09:17

    Mbeki was on power for almost 14years, for made a lot of peace resolutions in Africa not war. What's wrong with Zuma ? let me tell you, SANDF are getting use of mc donald food ,KFC ...these guys out ( guerillas) there are eating cassava leaves, they will finish SANDF like nobody business.

      Mohau Chabeli - 2013-04-03 09:28

      Hey u rtard, its Mbeki who signed a bilateral agreement with the CAR gorv. in 2007. The 1st group of troops wz dployd during that time. Go bck 2 school u idiot.

      Holdanigono - 2013-04-03 09:36

      They wont. SANDF will wipe these guys out. We are still rated the 3rd most powerful military in Africa. Why do you think they sent hoards of child soldiers in against us? They knew they would sustain heavy losses if they confronted us. We could topple this new government very easily if we had a mandate from the UA. They deserve to be taken down for killing our own. They should be shown no mercy.

      Sonnyboy Maluleke - 2013-04-03 09:37

      You have never been trained, you know nothing. Have you heard about APLA and MK.

  • Sylvester Mokhutshane - 2013-04-03 09:18

    I thot the SA army was coming home as said gister,this is a mickey mouse business,to retarliate after decimal failure which let to the loss of lives,I think SA army needs to get their house in order !

  • Izak Johannes Minnie - 2013-04-03 09:19

    send a another 500 000 troops

      Tersia Louw - 2013-04-03 10:00

      You're volunteering, are you?

      Jimmy Don - 2013-04-03 10:15

      Absolutely agree Izak but only if they are all ANC card holders :)

      Jackie Dee - 2013-04-03 10:53

      They are on strike

  • Asanda Ndondozikanina Mlonyeni - 2013-04-03 09:21

    Ayeye,papa soek vir jou

  • Gary5 - 2013-04-03 09:23

    We have never gone to war in africa unless part of an AU peace mission and with clear goals. We cannot afford to fly these planes yet we have a military build up in some godforsaken place and we told its for OUR safty and security??

  • Owekika Mukiibi Ndugwa K - 2013-04-03 09:24

    I can see now why everything is a mess here, Ok let's get it right, he deployed more troops to protect the rebels, fine, Zuma thats fine,our brothers are dying for nothing, I hate this,.........Solution: New Passport, am outta here for good!!

      mpho.kgakwakandlovu - 2013-04-03 10:05

      Why did you come here in the beginning? Please go maybe Sunnyside and Hilbrow will be clean again

      Alic France - 2013-04-03 10:16

      No one will miss you

      Kholekile Dyala - 2013-04-03 10:22

      Please leave and never come back here,you'll a liability.

      drsibusiso - 2013-04-03 10:36

      ur name sounds like u dnt belong here from the word go so do u really think we will notice when you gone ?

  • David Van Schalkwyk - 2013-04-03 09:25

    Is this really something SA needs now? it is going to cost more than what we have. If it can be justified why we should send more troops then yes I agree but I dont see any justification in sending troops to a fight that is not ours. Yes our men got killed for nothing, but they should not have been there in the first place. Fight when the battle is on your door step not someone else's...

      Ernica Stanford - 2013-04-03 10:44

      I fully agree. When the peace accord was broken, our guys should have been brought home immediately. This has nothing to do with us.

  • Ivy Malema - 2013-04-03 09:27

    The ruling party has a mission to accomplish in CAR, so if fewer soldiers can't do it then more soldiers should be sent. DA when u are ruling will have your own, so hands off and wait for your turn, just like we waited for 300yrs. U must wait another 500 yrs

      Tersia Louw - 2013-04-03 10:01

      Is there a Malema on earth who speaks any kind of sense?

      Ushir Sahdao - 2013-04-03 10:55

      Credit where credit is due. At least you realise that the DA will 'rule' or more appropriately 'govern' one day, highly doubt it will take 500 yrs though. The awakening has already begun and more people from all walks of life across our country can see the through the corrupt and incompetent ANC and recognise the glimmer of hope that the DA brings with good governance, accountability , transparency and an equal and open society. Its no more a matter of 'if'. Its just a matter of 'when'. Its only the people that fall for the propaganda or work in government and benefit through tenders that will support this corrupt ANC party. It starts with 1 province(WC) then gauteng in 2014. Brace yourself for the blue wave.

  • Leonard Mokgotlhwe - 2013-04-03 09:29

    kill those busted they killed my brother .Do it for JZ please

      Phae Rayden - 2013-04-03 09:43

      Sorry you lost your brother, but he was a soldier and death is the risk you take as part of the job. We must not be dragged into a war we had nothing to do with, and shouldn't have been part of anyway.

      Jackie Dee - 2013-04-03 10:55

      why don't you send in all ANC voters, then the DA can take over and be peaceful, not warmongering like your president.

  • ANASKA - 2013-04-03 09:31

    More soldiers are going to return in body bags!! - we are all in the same game, just different levels - dealing with the same hell, just different devils!! - ZUMA, those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it!!

  • Isaiah Baloyi - 2013-04-03 09:32

    This i not even our war and yet we are involved cos of someones interests in a foreign country,of which we wont benefit at all.Something is not right here,why is the ANC Gov so adamant of going through all the trouble and in the process wasting our money,this money could be used to uplift some communities,but they dont care about anyone but their comrades and themselves,as long as it benefits them they will do it,whether we like it or not.It is sick.come the next elections,South Africans will still vote them into power.Why?

      Ivy Malema - 2013-04-03 09:39

      What do u know about war, did u researched why West countries are rich,free lesson they fought in other countries and acquired their minerals, as we speak France is in CAR, Libya and Mali, or u always want only white people to have interest in all African

      Tersia Louw - 2013-04-03 10:02

      Ignorant AND racist; whatta combo!

  • Thembane Colly Hlazboy - 2013-04-03 09:33

    Go Boys Go

      Jackie Dee - 2013-04-03 10:55

      Fun to kill people is it?

      Mohau Chabeli - 2013-04-03 11:20

      Lets go demand respect!

  • Willie Uys - 2013-04-03 09:33

    I see that the rebels are already using the equipment that we left behind. Perhaps this is a way of getting around the arms embargo - deploy the latest technology and then withdraw, leaving the equipment there. You can then get paid in diamonds, etc.

  • Tshepo Lekabe - 2013-04-03 09:34

    why must South Africans live in peace while we cause more troubles for some countries ? I feel sorry for the kids who's education is going to be disrupted because of our standard 2 is not thinking clear.

  • Richard - 2013-04-03 09:35

    So the lies continue.

  • George Pito - 2013-04-03 09:35

    He He can see how we gonna get rid of some of the planes we never wanted. Tax money down the drain. How on earth are they going to support these weapons over there. Then how on earth are they going to attack anything not killing innocent ones in a rebel war.

  • Phae Rayden - 2013-04-03 09:37

    Zuma, Africa's very own George Bush.

      Tersia Louw - 2013-04-03 10:04

      Phae - Referring, I hope, to George W. Bush - Daddy Bush was fractionally smarter. Not much, but a bit.

  • Candy Nobelungu Nhleko - 2013-04-03 09:40

    As much as i hate wars and i don't understand why our soldiers are there in the first place,we have to go there and show those cowards who ambushed our boys what we are cable of.

  • Clive Toerien - 2013-04-03 09:40

    Seriously most S.A. people always complain that the SANDF never do anything and that we bought all this hardware and it's just rusting away, it's time S.A. step up. A boxer can't always practise on a boxing bag he needs to step in to the ring now and then to better his performance. now I'm not saying you have to agree it's just my 5 cents.

      Tersia Louw - 2013-04-03 10:05

      So glad we're not expected to agree.

      Zzolisa Mmandlana - 2013-04-03 10:40

      South Africans complain for everything

  • TawwaTienie - 2013-04-03 09:42

    They said during service this was/is in the interest of ALL South Africans and we as tax payers must left it to the regime to handle. What is my interest in DRC, CAR or whatever country? This is self-enrichment, for the interest of certain elite regime members and family / friends Mineral interest. What is democratic about that? SANDF belongs to the country, NOT to those favouritism in elite regime members. How many R$¥ go to the poor? zero. Those elite people have to pay those soldiers and all expenses. This is not a National defence at all!

  • Sifiso Keke Monnakgotla - 2013-04-03 09:46

    Clearly we have no business interest in CAR so why shud our troops go back! Our government is really failing our country

  • Tshepo Tshepo - 2013-04-03 09:49

    i just hate waht the zooma is doing with our country but i must say . those rebels must know what we made of. we nned to gain respect back to our SANDF Boys. i support those ones. not zoomer. he can go to hell for i waht i care.

  • Thembinkosi Jozie - 2013-04-03 09:56

    How are they going to use gripens in an urban warfare without killinng civillians? They will have to deploy ground troops and they will be ambushed and defeated again

  • Boichoko Dichaba - 2013-04-03 10:00

    13 fallen soldiers R.I.P, well on my opinion what happened in car showed a weaker south africa and it should never be like that. I support the president decision to deploy more troops to the region to reclaim our military vehicles and position.

  • Cane Corso - 2013-04-03 10:00

    $80 mill in yearly diamond deals is a lot of moola to loose by Take A Chance House.

  • Danie - 2013-04-03 10:01

    How much money , diamonds gold is deposited in the ANC and their leaders European bank accounts, for this taxpayer funded BBBEE operation

  • Erna Westdyk - 2013-04-03 10:02

    Told you yesterday there would be another story today!

  • Stanley Mabunda - 2013-04-03 10:03

    i see more body bags

      Thulani Ngomane - 2013-04-03 10:50

      The SANDF has been in that region for long and we saw no body bags. Relax, the CAR incident was a once off. We have a very strong military which by the way still consist of some experience men from pre 1994 MK and SADF. gO South Africa!

  • Cane Corso - 2013-04-03 10:05

    Well, that's how the Americans get rid of their criminals and unemployed. Less people = more jobs. War can be soo profitable and it creates more jobs too. Join the army today and see the end of your world tomorrow.

  • Cane Corso - 2013-04-03 10:08

    Ol' Zipper just couldn't resist putting his name in the history books. Zippers military campaign in Africa to save the Africans from the Africans. This is going to be gripping stuff.

  • Makgopa Samuel - 2013-04-03 10:11

    at last , go boys arms up , teach rebels some lessons, u can destroy everything there if needs be, i mean child soldiers too , we need to restore our dignity, baya si delela .......

      Jackie Dee - 2013-04-03 10:56

      What about SA? Shouldn't we fix our country first?

  • Magda Henning - 2013-04-03 10:11

    This Zoomer realy thinks he is in control. Only Zoomer thinks that our defence force is strong enough. He is an absolute laugh

  • phosa.peter2 - 2013-04-03 10:13

    Just unwanted war for unnecessary ground..let it be,,, ICC would be issueing subpoena to a certain president(SA), then the masses will change the tune..for (pres)his hands would be having some blood of African Children.Remember this mission was against UN protocol, but the interest of some individuals. (memorandum of understandig)