Sadtu: Attacked teachers must sue dept

2012-06-01 11:05

Cape Town - The SA Democratic Teachers' Union (Sadtu) has encouraged teachers who are attacked and injured by pupils to sue education authorities, according to a report on Friday.

"We do not want the floodgates to open, but we will advise our members to take legal action if the employer has been shown to be negligent," the union's Western Cape secretary Jonavin Rustin told the Cape Times.

The call for legal action followed an attack on a Grade 6 teacher at St Anthony's Primary School in Heathfield, Cape Town, on Tuesday.

An 11-year-old pupil stabbed the teacher with a pen, leaving a wound on her arm that required stitches.

According to the newspaper, the teacher received counselling and the matter was referred to the school governing body for a formal disciplinary hearing.

The attack comes two months after the provincial education department lost its appeal against having to pay R1.1m in damages to a teacher who sued it for negligence.

A pupil bludgeoned Tania Jacobs with a hammer at Cape Town's Rhodes High School in 2001.

The department spent about R6m on lawyers and experts in defending the case.

  • winston.mullany - 2012-06-01 11:27

    The government wanted to ban corporal punishment.....hmmmmm

      robert.cerff - 2012-06-01 12:28

      When was the last time a female student was given "6 of the best"?

      Thermophage - 2012-06-01 12:36

      And how would corporal punishment help? Such a BS old fashioned and outdated way to do things. "it worked for us, it'll work for them" ... With a simplistic outlook like that we'd all still using a slide-rule. Come on...please. Not to say current practices are working...something else does need to be done, but moer'ing people is not on.

      winston.mullany - 2012-06-01 13:08

      Because it did work, simple!

      Thermophage - 2012-06-01 13:16

      @ winston. Really? how so? Please, you all need to grow up and stop living in the past.

      vessela.hobson - 2012-06-01 13:35

      yes, the kids can't do anything back, let's beat them cause we're frustrated old farts and the world stepped on us

      vessela.hobson - 2012-06-01 13:43

      @ winston: yes, beating kids might have worked, in the same way slavery got your fields ploughed and your cotton picked...doesn't meat it was right though

      vessela.hobson - 2012-06-01 13:49

      yes, you can beat someone into submission and yes, it will work, all that makes you is a bully

      winston.mullany - 2012-06-01 14:02

      I see we have two idiots on this forum! Thermophage and Vessela, you two obviously cannot think past your noses in understanding the term discipline. You are idiotic in thinking that the term corporal punishment means child abuse, disciplining a child and child abuse are two totally different things. So I'll explain it to you like you 2 year olds, beating a child black and blue for no reason is child abuse. Discipling a child with a smack to the bottom for something his done wrong, is called discipline!!!

      vessela.hobson - 2012-06-01 14:07

      All in all you're just another brick in the wall. Bully

      vessela.hobson - 2012-06-01 14:08

      as far as "idiots", I beg to differ, I am a physicist, Thermophage is a geologist....maybe the idiot is you?

      winston.mullany - 2012-06-01 14:31

      Yeah, I noticed with the lack of a real argument on your part.

      vessela.hobson - 2012-06-01 14:32

      what more convincing argument do you want than "you can't just beat people who don't do what you say" ???

      Thermophage - 2012-06-01 17:43

      Sure man. Please. We do not need any convincing from your part. I've been in both of the situations (with and without). So please...if you think a simple smack will do anything you are sorely mistaken buddy. There is a f***ing HUGE difference between discipline/respect and fear of being beaten. If someone has raised their child to understand and think, then your barbaric practices are not needed. End of story.

      Thermophage - 2012-06-01 17:46

      Sorry, forgot to add that your first post related to "corporal punishment"....that is a WHOLE different thing to a light tap/smack to give a child too young to think logically an indication that what they are doing is wrong. A very different thing. And thank you for the post about Vessela and I being idiots. It really helped to prove your point. It appears when challenged ... you resort to lashing out. I truly hope you have no children to which you do the same thing.

  • George - 2012-06-01 11:48

    Yes, lets throw more money at the problem since we can't discipline our children, or even the adults. The people will pay once again for the governments inadequacies. Our govenment is not much of a rolemodel, with their childish objections and outbursts over unimportant matters, no wonder our children feel free to attack when they feel threatened. "Spare the rod, spoil the child" only works when there is an intelligent & consistent adult in charge.

      vessela.hobson - 2012-06-01 14:39

      spare the rod spoil the child doesn't work, it's an archaic, lazy method of discipline, another way the bible has ruined society. thanks a lot gawd

      Vickers - 2012-06-20 21:03

      I served for a while on the local schools governing body. I sat through a few disciplinary hearings. What a total farce! Kids that are obviously guilty rock up with a layer in tow and the poor teacher (an excellent one at that) who was only trying to to her job were made to look like a fool. The time and effort that goes into a system that fails to produce meaningful results must be an incredible frustration for the few teachers that teach in the hope of providing a valuable service to their learners. Discipline at schools are a real headache made extremely difficult by holier than thou attitudes of people that do not have a clue.

  • Nicky - 2012-06-01 11:57

    Yeay, let's encourage the masses, let's lead towards anarchy, let us protest,let's act like bafoons, yeay - WTF. Teach your children well, then they wont want to stab a teacher with a pen!

  • Tony Lapson - 2012-06-01 12:00

    R6m on legal fees to avoid paying R1.1m? Seems like legit logic.

      Pieter - 2012-06-03 13:56

      That is exactly how the "EDUCATED" african work.

  • Murechen - 2012-06-01 12:01

    And what is the union doing to instill some discipline into thier own members, the ones who beat kids and sexually abuse them?

  • Livelibanti - 2012-06-25 18:13

    Teachers must develop themselves to be able to defend themselves. Teachers are there to build morale in our society.

  • Matlala - 2012-07-03 09:28

    Many poeple might see the call of SADTU to be out of touch with reality. Frankily writing the call hold water. Educators are disillusioned about their envisaged future in teaching fraternity. School premises habour dangerous weapons carried in by learners every day. Any caution made to encourage positive learning and teaching is welcomed with arrow and bow by learners more especially at high schools. Safety and security for school community is lacking. Majority of schools have good policies on safety and security at their disposal. Lack of funds hinders proper implementation. Schools need enough funds to contract security companies to control movement within and around the schools. Ironically every offices and passages in departmental buildings are flooded with uniform guards. This show how paramount their safety and security is. What about safety and security of thousands of learners and educators out there? Safety and security is a constitutional obligation of the state towards all citizens in the country. Learners and educators are not exceptional. We should be protected. We all know of some of the educators chopped down like animals during contact time. We must ensure that safety of educators against learners is guaranteed. Else educators should do more than suing the department. They should arm themselves for self defence while teaching. DBE should take SADTU call seriously. We don't want to centralised safdety and security in schools. We want education to remain at the centre.

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