Sanef to hold urgent talks over Manyi

2011-06-21 14:06

Johannesburg - The SA National Editors Forum will hold an urgent meeting on Tuesday to discuss what it sees as the "deteriorating relations" between itself and government communications head Jimmy Manyi.

The meeting comes on the same day Manyi told 702 Talk Radio that Sanef chairperson Mondli Makhanya had shown "cartel-like tendencies" and that the media created "fictions".

"We are not going to comment on what Jimmy said. Rather, what we are doing is we have called for an urgent discussion with our members. Based on that, we will certainly be pursuing a meeting with Mr Manyi's superiors to highlight the deteriorating relationship between him and Sanef," Sanef deputy chairperson Mary Papayya said.

A meeting between Manyi and Sanef last week ended without resolution and Tuesday's meeting was meant to have been a follow-up.

"At this stage it is very concerning that the relationship has come to this juncture," said Papayya, adding that the matter had to be resolved urgently.

Makhanya was not immediately available to comment.


In his interview, Manyi said he could not understand why the media was so "hostile" to the government.

Asked whether he thought there was a plot or conspiracy by the media against the government, he replied:

"... Let me be factual. You go and listen to Maggs on Media, a clip that was played, you look at the closing comments of Mr Makhanya there. He says that 'we as media we must stand together'... I'm paraphrasing him... 'we must stand together to fight... government on this and that'. That kind of a thing. Now let's talk to the issue of media diversity.

"That it's only a few groups of media people that think in a particular way and act in a particular way. We have no diversity in this thing. The representation of the cross spectrum of society is not happening. This is what is causing this challenge. I think the solution to this is that we need to see a lot more media diversity so that we can introduce different points of perspective so that we don't have this hostility."

Media working together

When host John Robbie commented that anybody could enter the media market he replied: "No John, let's be serious, it's takes only three phone calls to round up the whole of media.

"One person from [the] Avusa stable picks up the call and calls Independent and calls Caxtons and calls... eh whatsit other group... that's just three calls and it's done, then the whole mainstream media is covered. The rest of the other guys, rats and mice in the beginning there, that's what we need to build up to make sure that they become a formidable force, that's what needs to happen."

Asked whether he was suggesting that editors call each other and say "let's nail government on this one", he replied: "I heard the comments from Mondli Makhanya on the Maggs on Media where they are saying they must work together - that worried me - he is the chairman of Sanef..."

Makhanya is also editor-in-chief of Avusa media newspapers. "I was shocked to hear those kind of almost cartel-like tendencies. I thought that was shocking comments from a very senior person in that space."

He thought Makhanya was "a great guy", but believed the views he was articulating are those of the industry.

"If he says let's work together he must be saying something that is shared amongst his peers. This is the issue."

He believed Sanef was made up of "very decent people" but felt it a pity that they made impulsive statements.

Creating fiction

"What one would say... is that before you go out making impulsive unthought through [sic] statements, have a discussion first, understand what the other side is saying."

He denied that the government's strategy to centralise advertising planning and placement was intended to select only government-friendly media.

"I said we are going to put it where we get bulk discounts, and it's going to be bulk discounts at maximum coverage, that's what we are doing."

He continued: "You see one of the challenges we have with media is this kind of approach that you are taking... you guys what you do... [Robbie interjects: But why are you bracketing everybody together, I'm not you guys, I'm John Robbie?]... no, no but you have got this media tendencies of creating your own fiction... [media tendencies?]... yes, creating your own fiction.

"Once you have created this fiction you passionately believe in this fiction and everybody must react to it."

"The government had never created the linkage that you are creating. Don't create your own fiction and then everybody must chase after this fiction."

  • IQ - 2011-06-21 14:11

    Manyi could get a job in a charm school. As a bad example!

      willieman - 2011-06-21 14:26

      The man has just realised that is not a politician ,so he is fighting for his survival to cover for incompetent politicians,I suggest to him "PLEASE RESIGN YOU ARE NOT A GOOD SPIN DOCTOR"

      DeonL - 2011-06-21 14:43

      He is not doing too well, maybe he should be redeployed (again).

      Refilwemu - 2011-06-21 15:08

      Jimmy Manyi is like Malema he's very good.We need a whole lot more those assertive and unapologetic black individual.

      Felix - 2011-06-21 15:35

      @Refilmybrandy, I think you mean 'incompetent & arrogant'. What we really need is the likes of Moeletsi Mbeki.

      Other Justin - 2011-06-21 16:07

      @Zizo, your joking, right? Comparing these oxygen thieves to the great Madiba, LOL!

      OuWitBooi - 2011-06-21 16:08

      @Refilwemu - you are absolutely correct. These two (Manyi and Malema) did more to get voters to switch to the DA in the recent municipal elections than the whole DA team could. I am so happy to see Malema elected for a second term as ANCYL president. He can stir up the hot headed 10% who love him, but he does such a good job in getting the other 90% to see how things should NOT be done that he will continue to drive the move to the DA.

  • tut - 2011-06-21 14:15

    Yaaaaaaaaaawn! Yaaaaaaawn again. Mr. Manyi's monotone media lament! The same individual who has issues with the coloured demographics in the western cape now has issues with the great media conspiracy! Grow up and act like a mature Government spokesperson willing to address and discuss openly the real underlying issues within ANC's inability and outright failure to deliver basic services, rooting out corruption etc.etc. and not behave like a reprimanded school brat who's guilty in the first instance! We are all so sick and tired of petty immature ANC politics!

  • Gorilla - 2011-06-21 14:16

    Can they not hold urgent talks to discuss the deteriorating relationship of Malema with common sense?

      tut - 2011-06-21 14:28

      Common sense and Malema are an oxymoron(pun intended!)

      Janine - 2011-06-21 15:21

      @tut - beautiful comment!

  • maseratifitt - 2011-06-21 14:20

    Manyi : Just leave the media alone. Let them do their job. Then you go and tell government they must do theirs.

  • matubeng - 2011-06-21 14:25

    @Gorilla, Common sense is very cheap and you too can get one. It must be about R30 somewhere in small town called Marble Hall on his way home Malema can just drive there.

      ratex - 2011-06-21 15:31

      You maybe right, but at least gorilla can get and apply common sense, you lot wouldn't know what it was if it jumped up and bit you on your nose.

  • will294 - 2011-06-21 14:27

    I really think that there is no hope for this country's future at all. The ominous warnings (on many fronts)are warning us all that we are already on the path to a Zimbabwe like destruction of the country. Any young person with any intelligence should consider moving to a country where they can make a secure future for themselves and where they will be ruled by an intelligent and civilized government.

      mamakalami - 2011-06-21 14:45

      will294 - this is like deja vu '94? Are you not tired of this up and down?

      willieman - 2011-06-21 16:14

      Why don't you make a move first--set an example

  • Piet Opperman - 2011-06-21 14:35

    "Don't create your own fiction and then everybody must chase after this fiction." -- Isn't that exactly what the Government does? So the real issue is that Jimmy Manyi is jealour because he is not being successful at creating his own fiction and getting everyone to chase after it.

  • John - 2011-06-21 14:36

    Manyi....what is shocking is your limited intellectual capacity to drive a debate based on facts. I cannot believe this idiot is a government spokesperson...well actually I can. This guy has no clue what he is talking about, somebody please put him out of his misery...what an embarrasment to South africa

      paulf - 2011-06-21 15:13

      What do you expect, Zuma appointed his cabinet with a bunch of uneducated morons as he himself is not educated. It is a disgrace and embarassement to South Africa.

  • Wow! - 2011-06-21 14:37

    Manyi - you are the one creating your own fiction. Get with reality.

      KnysnaSha - 2011-06-21 15:15

      Sometimes the truth might seem like fiction but it is clearly non-fiction. It all comes down to them not liking that the media are reporting their corruption and mishaps.

  • WaterBaby - 2011-06-21 14:40

    "*.-tendencies" there no other synonym that can be used by the head of gov communications to avoid being read like the other poor unfortunate(s)? We need 1-2 languages (any) tops in this country (opinion) so that we as a country can reach a point where shi* is not lost in translation.

  • Mishka - 2011-06-21 14:40

    He will quietly disappear into the woodwork (hopefully not anything crafted by JM), as he did at a Corporate he was employed at for a while in Bryanston, just one day was no longer there, hush hush................

  • Zolani - 2011-06-21 14:42

    Im glad Mrs Obama is in town at least we have a modern black woman for our children to look up to and have as roll models, look how pathetic our government act, what example do they set for our children

      Other Justin - 2011-06-21 16:10

      Well said.

  • Sho Fukamachi - 2011-06-21 14:44

    Get rid of Manyi and put a competent person in his place. In other words, someone not from the ANC.

  • Wayne - 2011-06-21 14:45

    *bows head in shame* Why even interview this dumb prick? ROFL so hard when he said "you guys what you do".

  • PieterWolf - 2011-06-21 14:48

    He's just plain DOM.!!!!!!!!!!

  • Rover_ZA - 2011-06-21 14:50

    Manyi's response to Robbie saying "But why are you bracketing everybody together, I'm not you guys, I'm John Robbie?" is very telling. Jimmy Manyi, your time is up.

  • Justin - 2011-06-21 14:56

    Ever hear the song "u spin me round like a record" its always the same news. Manyi, Malema, Manyi, Malema. Why don't the press just ignore these two beasts, put a total black out on them for 2 months, it would be wonderful and even when Julias rants no one will even know, Please put a 2 month black out on them and see what happens...............

      ratex - 2011-06-21 15:33

      No pun intended on the "black out"lol

  • GerryC - 2011-06-21 14:58

    The absolute beauty of this guy is that he is just to damn stupid to realise he is stupid. He is trying to keep himself employed by creating his own fiction that the press is creating bad fiction about the government, so he is going to take some tax payer cash and spread it around with his favorable media guys to get his fiction to the public, I am sure that his media guys will reciprocate and line that back pocket of those ever so expensive threads he wears.

  • Mubashir - 2011-06-21 15:06

    So the real issue is that Jimmy Manyi is jealour because he is not being successful at creating his own fiction and getting everyone to chase after it.

  • Sivuyile Mqingwana - 2011-06-21 15:13

    "What one would say... is that before you go out making impulsive unthought through [sic] statements, have a discussion first, understand what the other side is saying." I Guess Jimmy Manyi's statement on Oversupply of coloureds was a well thought out statement.

  • Serias - 2011-06-21 15:17

    Manyi....You ARE the weakest link, good bye!

  • Phoofolo - 2011-06-21 15:20

    Listerning to what Manyi said this morning, nothing is wrong, south african media they are always looking the bad side of government

      Felix - 2011-06-21 15:39

      But you can only see the good side from the inside, while getting rich for being black...

  • WoodworkPh.D - 2011-06-21 15:40

    You overplayed your hand this time manyi. I listened to the interview and you were aggresive and came with a set agenda to the interview. Why did you refuse to even consider other views? Simple, you are the single biggest reason for the souring media relations. Media is only the mirror of what is happening.

  • GT - 2011-06-21 15:44

    Media should just not turn up to any briefing jimmy gives. Speak to the hand beeatch

  • Norman DePluhm - 2011-06-21 15:45

    Firstly Jimmy, the whole 'broad spectrum' of society think the government needs to shape up, that's why you feel persecuted. If there's good stuff to report, that's what we'll read, but unfortunately bad news sells first and fastest, and your government gives the media PLENTY of that to print. Secondly, the only organization really 'creating fiction' and hoping passionately that people will believe it is actually the government, all your lies and promises, all the cloak and dagger...

  • Other Justin - 2011-06-21 16:06

    LOL! What a serious waste of space. I listened to the interview, if that is what you can call it, it involved Manyi talking while John Robbie was trying to get a word in edge ways. This is typical of the cANCer that is killing the country. The solution is very simple to their media problems, do your job, do it properly, and there will be no 'negative' reporting. Welcome to the African National Circus, where Manya is the collective clowns spokesperson. VIVA AMAUSELESS VIVA!

  • biskit - 2011-06-21 16:08

    You shot the messenger Manyi and now you'll get a slap on the wrist...if that

  • Virginia - 2011-06-21 16:15

    Why are all these people so hostie towards each other. I always thought that this type of behaviour was between opposition political parties. There is not just a racial happening in this country, here are bad vibes amongst all and sundry. I do think its about time a truce was called and everyone sat down and called for calm. We have so many people running this country at the moment we do not know who to blame for what. Come on, you are all supposed to be educated in what you do, stop passing the buck, take responsibility for your actions, no matter what the consequences. SouthAfrica is really in a cesspool.

  • Mart - 2011-06-21 16:19

    Manyi is getting frustrated because the brief from his employer, the President of South Africa, is to get the Media as a whole to 'toe the party line' and fortunately for us, the Media is digging it's heels in and saying a big fat NO! We do not trust the government or it's deployed cadres because they have a hidden agenda (that their miscreant Malema has already alluded to) and they know that world opinion must be kept favorable for them to follow through.

  • cr1t - 2011-06-21 17:00

    Manyi is a spokespearson? Sound more like a conspiracy nut case. LOL at 'media tendencies'

  • CdnMoose - 2011-06-21 18:05

    There's an old phrase..." Can't stand the heat...get out of the kitchen!!". When do these clowns realize that with power, comes scrutiny and criticism. No one has all the answers, but positive attempts to make things better are always welcomed. Too bad the ANC can't organize anything other than maybe a riot or party. If they were doing more to make people and institutions accountable rather than what passes for moral incompetence, then the media would probably focus on Charlize THeron, or Eminem. The government provides too much bad news for the media to ignore or not report it. Jimmy, time to grow up!!

  • Khoisan X - 2011-06-21 20:25

    What is so wrong with media solidarity? So, what if someone said those things? The fact that there's a special interest group in SANEF means that there's solidarity within the media. The media has exposed untold amounts of corruption. If there's one thing they have not done right, it is notfollowing up enough on more corruption issues such as Malema not paying his taxes or a bridge he was paid for collapsing or how Zuma got hold of National Intelligence during his trial...Ngikhathele hilamanyala...kuyanuka sis..

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