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Schabir Shaik gives Jackie Selebi advice

2013-10-08 08:36

Durban - Disgraced former police commissioner and convicted criminal Jackie Selebi is a “walking time bomb” and should seek “self-introspection”, says convicted Durban fraudster and fellow medical parolee Schabir Shaik.

He was responding to The Witness after news that Selebi had been pictured at a shopping centre in Monument Park, Pretoria, on Sunday.

Both former political heavyweights, Shaik and Selebi are controversially on medical parole after being handed jail sentences.

In both cases, the department of correctional services parole board said their health had reached an irreversible state and their conditions were “terminal”.

Shaik, who was released on medical parole in March 2009, said it was not up to the public to decide when a person should die.

“[Selebi] is a walking, talking time bomb. If the media is questioning [why Selebi is still alive] they should rather scrutinise the medical diagnosis. I am not condoning what crime he committed, but I don’t believe he is in cahoots with medical professionals. They are not going to put their careers on the line for him,” said Shaik.

Introspection

He said Selebi would handle the public scrutiny better if he had “self-introspection”.

“He needs to reflect on his own life and get his humanness back,” said Shaik.

He said often politicians who have wielded large amounts of power think they are “greater than God” and that they find it difficult to adjust when the power is removed.

Shaik said Selebi’s recent shopping trip sighting would have no bearing on Shaik’s own medical parole. He said the parole board was properly constituted and made informed decisions.

Selebi was jailed for 15 years in 2010 for taking bribes from convicted drug dealer Glen Agliotti. After his appeals failed in December 2011, he collapsed at his home. He was imprisoned, but released on medical parole in July 2012, with the medical parole board saying he was suffering from irreversible kidney failure, a stroke, diabetes, heart and eye disease, and motor function impairment.

Shaik was jailed for 15 years when he was found guilty, among other things, for soliciting a bribe from French arms manufacturer Thomson-CSF for now President Jacob Zuma.

The charge was linked to the controversial R70bn arms deal currently being scrutinised by a commission of inquiry.

Shaik’s guilty verdict allowed the National Prosecuting Authority to pursue criminal charges against Zuma, which were eventually dropped in 2009.

According to Beeld, Selebi did not break his parole conditions, which include getting time off on a Sunday to go to church or do grocery shopping.

Medical reports

Shaik said in his case his medical aid, Discovery Health, flew two hypertension specialists from Cape Town to assess his condition.

“They concurred that I had uncontrolled refractory hypertension, which affects about four percent of the population and in my case is genetic. I was in St Augustine’s at the time.

“Ultimately, they got Discovery to pay my mounting medical bills, which were at that time in excess of R900 000,” he said.

“I may be mobile, but it is a silent killer. I could be anywhere such as playing golf or driving and it could strike. Therefore, in Selebi’s case, look at the medical review to get a balanced view. If you [the media] want to look into this matter further, ask for his medical reports,” said Shaik.

Shaik said he may soon be eligible for normal parole, having served eight years of his sentence. His sentence will be completed in 2021.

“This will give me the ability to work again, which I am not allowed to do now. I have had all my state contracts removed, cash and assets. At age 57, I am not going to fight anymore but rather enjoy what years I have left,” said Shaik.

 

Comments
  • Roux - 2013-10-08 08:40

    You would think he would keep his head down and hope everyone forgets about him? They both should be in jail!

      Wimpy Van Der Westhuizen - 2013-10-08 08:44

      so true but no.1 aholl are looking out for them.

      Erich Goosen - 2013-10-08 09:10

      The only sound advice Shaik can give Selebi is where to find a corrupt doctor to certify that he has terminal illness. This is not difficult bearing in mind that the SAHPC is a toothless bulldog that will not act against such a doctor unless he is Wouter Basson.

      Kawasaki1985 - 2013-10-08 09:11

      Criminals !!!

      Open mind - 2013-10-08 09:19

      I think he is lecturing at the Parlement grooming school to.... how to avoid going to jail once your caught 101 and also some extra classes called bribery and corrupting in style

      Theo Dormehl - 2013-10-08 09:21

      The "walking dead" South African edition shopping spree Imagine this squad Shaik , Selebi, Zuma, Malema all convicted or to be convicted and released to "walking dead" reasons walking along down the street joking the good old days ?

      Steve Ritchie - 2013-10-08 09:30

      @ Erich. Maybe they should allow Uncle Wouter to check these two fakes out!

      Linds Ron-House - 2013-10-08 09:32

      There is nothing wrong with medical parole, but rules must be applied equally and consistently to all eligible prisoners. Shaik is correct, some of these medical conditions allow a person to be mobile but very dangerous. My old man is diabetic and after about 4 decades his condition is uncontrollable. His sugar levels fluctuate uncontrollable. He could be over 20 (which is too high) one minute and the next it is at 2 and he colapses and needs urgent hospitalization. He needs 24 hour care, yet he is mobile. Now if he was in jail it would be too much for prison officials to take care of him, but at home he gets better care and is able live longer. Lastly, I do not believe in retributive justice but restorative justice. Only violent criminals, who pose a danger to society or themselves, should be locked up. All non violent criminals should be given non-custodial sentences. If Shaik steals money from me (tax payer) and then I lock him up, feed him 3 times a day, pay for his medical treatment, pay for his therapy, pay... then it's a double blow for me. I would be happier if he sweeps the streets, cleans hospitals, cleans toilets at schools, etc. for 15 years.

      Eterni80 - 2013-10-08 09:35

      this is the ultimate mockery of the legal system - cough cough - aaaaaaggghhhh I'm going to die, let me out - he then flashes his friends of zuma club card and is escorted out of jail every time Zuma gets away with something like this, he becomes more confidently arrogant - if left unchecked we will head down that same dark path mugarbage has taken Zimbabwe. Arrogant National Congress fight the future - vote in 2014

      Aborted News - 2013-10-08 11:11

      Schabir Shaik's advice to Jackie Selebi: Dude I saw u shopping yesterday! Dude Shoprite doesn't have good golf clubs!

  • Susan Paul - 2013-10-08 08:44

    From one thief to another!!!

      Loura Holtzhausen Stegmann - 2013-10-08 09:38

      Took the words right out of my mouth!! I just wanted to say "from one thug to another!"

      Siyabonga Biyela - 2013-10-08 10:00

      "I am not going to fight anymore but rather enjoy what years I have left,” said Shaik. Underline 'years'

      Poktuoh Yrrelb - 2013-10-08 10:17

      Is shaik also still alive ?

  • Hemlock - 2013-10-08 08:45

    Advice from one thief to another.......my oh my oh my!

  • Harley Quin - 2013-10-08 08:45

    the pot calling the kettle previously disadvantaged

  • Carolyn Elgin Sims-Handcock - 2013-10-08 08:45

    Golf! This guy is brazen.

  • Graham Leslie Hurlstone-jones - 2013-10-08 08:46

    Just another example of the Mafia that has taken control of SA Looking after there own.

  • Bheki Dladla - 2013-10-08 08:46

    some things just dont add up and the state or rather the ANC is taking us for a nice jolly ride and insulting our intelligence in the process. i guess the phrase "every dog has its day" is quite true. i still say if you do the crime, you got to do the time. no one should be above the law maaan!!!

  • Clinton Tupper - 2013-10-08 08:47

    Oh shut up Shaik! You and Selebi should be bum chums in the same cell!

  • Ashley Sisilana - 2013-10-08 08:48

    LOL!

  • Palesa Mahlatsi - 2013-10-08 08:50

    Birds of a feather!! Introspection?? Behind bars you can introspect much better that at a mall!!

  • André Van Wyk - 2013-10-08 08:50

    Thanks I will definitely change my medical scheme. No more Discovery for me!!!!!

  • Auric Goldfinger - 2013-10-08 08:51

    what interests me more is the luxury car that selebi is driving/being driven around in.

  • Vic Grant - 2013-10-08 09:00

    Both these men could be treated in jail just as good as out of jail. I also suffer from kidney failure an on daily dialysis, hypertension, diabetes,and a killed off thyroid gland. I also suffered 2 strokes. I do all my treatment at home.and am still fit enough to hold a job, if one comes my way, to help me with my medical aid.

      donovan.kruger.52 - 2013-10-08 09:35

      Sorry to hear about all the ailments. My friend too has renal failure and only 8% use of both kidneys. He has a job and lives as much a normal life as possible. Why do these guys get special attention

  • Tshephangsithole - 2013-10-08 09:00

    money and cANCer talks

  • Mbulah Nengwie - 2013-10-08 09:00

    One of the principle of modern governance is "EQUITY BEFORE THE LAW AND DUE PROCESS", are we practicing that in south Africa? One of the honorable man (WOODROW WILSON) had shared some light on this. We are mixing politics and administration. One is influencing the other I smell. Lol

  • Mbulah Nengwie - 2013-10-08 09:02

    One of the principle of modern governance is "EQUITY BEFORE THE LAW AND DUE PROCESS", are we practicing that in south Africa? One of the honorable man (WOODROW WILSON) had shared some light on this. We are mixing politics and administration. One is influencing the other I smell. Lol. "Selebi and schaik on medical parole" lol. Mzansi number one.

  • Impi Masondo - 2013-10-08 09:03

    we must pray for healthy recovery

      Jimmy Don - 2013-10-08 10:39

      Perhaps you should rather pray for intellectual capacity.

  • Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-10-08 09:06

    Crooks have a great love for each other when they eat out of the same cookie jar.

  • foxiloxi - 2013-10-08 09:07

    Really News24, why is this news?????

  • Broke Xoli - 2013-10-08 09:08

    This makes me sick..Excuse the pun

  • Madumetja April - 2013-10-08 09:08

    f##k off

  • proudlysa - 2013-10-08 09:11

    Shaik, you, Selebi and Zuma should be in jail! That is what they are there for, to protect innocent citizens from criminals. Don't you get it???

  • Tshepo Mogale - 2013-10-08 09:14

    These guys are taking the piss....

  • Darryl Maze - 2013-10-08 09:14

    Its amazing how these two were on their death beds and so close to seeing hell, how they miraculously have recovered. If so then they should miraculously return to prison and serve their time. How is it that these two who stole millions are allowed to walk free, go shopping, play golf and smoke cigars well there are criminals on their death beds that arent allowed medical parole???? Oh wait they not friends with shower head.

  • Stuart Scully - 2013-10-08 09:15

    Maybe they should discuss this over a game of golf!

  • Francois Botha - 2013-10-08 09:15

    Maybe he should play as much golf as Shabby.

  • Rio Lembas - 2013-10-08 09:18

    Misuse of medical parole,South African laws emerge from other countries,but here are abused, why?

  • bushy.mogale.39 - 2013-10-08 09:19

    Anyway, we all new from the start that his sickness have been faked...that is the selective justice system of this country. Now he is a freeman...he can join Shaik, play golf together, drive around their lavish cars and beat anyone who questions their life style.

  • Peter Walters - 2013-10-08 09:20

    I agree with Schaik the Snake, review the medical records and then NAME AND SHAME the medical Doctors who got this sooooo wrong. Public embarrassment for the Doctors will make others (Doctors sympathetic to ANC crooks)think twice before declaring an ANC crook half dead, but with a 110% chance of recovery.

  • Buttonmenzi Menzi - 2013-10-08 09:20

    Most criminals they struggle to get a parole as a results end up dying in jail. I wonder what is the criteria?

  • Daniel Roach - 2013-10-08 09:23

    "Shaik’s guilty verdict allowed the National Prosecuting Authority to pursue criminal charges against Zuma, which were eventually dropped in 2009." I still don't know how we let a criminal become our president!!! If anyone still votes ANC...they are making a bold statement about their intelligence or about their morals.

      nkululeko.zulu.5 - 2013-10-08 09:46

      @Daniel, why would an ethical person do that? Unless they don't know what's good for them and their future!!!

      Jurie Nel - 2013-10-08 11:39

      There we go, Nkululeko. Vote with your brain and you get good governance. Vote ethnic and you get what we have. Simple. You and those like you who do not think, but vote along ethnic lines, YOU and YOU ALONE are responsible for the mess in this country.

  • Byron Jay - 2013-10-08 09:24

    Crime pays.

  • Brain Roc - 2013-10-08 09:26

    I think Jub-jub should get sick as well then get well from the outside. I'm just saying.

  • Muhammed Bhyat - 2013-10-08 09:28

    Blind leading the blind!

  • Justin Glenn - 2013-10-08 09:30

    If a person who is on medical parole has not passed away after 6 months, should then be put back in prison until they pass away.

  • donovan.kruger.52 - 2013-10-08 09:32

    So does that mean all prisoners with medical issues go on medical parole. Your a convicted criminal, keep them in jail and let them die there. What's so special about these 2 idiots

  • Nditsheni Singo - 2013-10-08 09:37

    Jail is not a good place to be. That is why many becomes sick and are released on medical parole. I wish Selebi a speedy recovery.

      Jurie Nel - 2013-10-08 11:40

      Oh, to be sure, he'll have it.

      Lawrice Sven Griffin - 2013-10-08 13:25

      jail is ShWEET! i was there just recently, food, friends, FUN!!!

  • Scott G. Lockhart - 2013-10-08 09:40

    this medical parole does it only apply 2 those in da position of power or wat just need clarity. cours surely there are those ppl in the same condition as them but aint receivin special treatment. in such insteance jackie selebi shud be return back 2 jail cause nw he shows dat he can act with such appreaciation although claimed not to be fit.

  • Mbudzeni Mapwali Mphaphuli - 2013-10-08 09:52

    Shaik is giving Selebi some advice on avoiding media! And Glen Agglioti is always in the media as a celebrity, he does not have to leave like a criminal he is. Well something is wrong in this country, you leave a criminal out to leave like king.

  • Herklaas Jantjies - 2013-10-08 09:53

    If you are connected to number # you shall be deployed out of jail...

  • goldeelocks - 2013-10-08 10:03

    He should shut up rather. Both of them should be dead if we are to believe the lies they told. The only illness they suffer from is " ippikonders"

  • Robert Reeve - 2013-10-08 10:04

    Double standards and a mockery of fairness and equality in our judicial system, with JZ who never gets to account for his crimes. In an honest and just society, all three would be in jail along with their doctors, who are allowed to become inviolate accessories by giving evidently false professional opinions.The very servival of both these men on medical parole is the proof of flawed diagnosis and the ANC's blatant collusion to subvert justice by condoning such unwarranted reprieves.

  • SunshinyDay - 2013-10-08 10:12

    "Shaik, who was released on medical parole in March 2009, said it was not up to the public to decide when a person should die." Well, if you are released on medical parole you are kind of expected to die soon... hence the reason for release... idiot.

  • Kevin Narainsamy - 2013-10-08 10:16

    Shaik should just shut the f*** up! How can we believe in this justice system!?!

  • Matt Collard - 2013-10-08 10:18

    F'ing RICH.

  • Simone Gibson - 2013-10-08 10:24

    AND WHO ARE YOU TO TALK SHABIER SHAIK!!!! You are just wanting Selebi to stay out of the public eye as you both are fraudsters who are supposed to be dying - You were released in 2009 from a terminal illness - flip I wish all of those terminally ill patients who are actually terminally ill get the lifespan you have!!! I say you and Selebi have quite a while still as you are NOT ill!! Go back to jail then bastards!!!

  • Wonder Mlandzeni Ka Ntila - 2013-10-08 10:31

    "According to Beeld, Selebi did not break his parole conditions, which include getting time off on a Sunday to go to church or do grocery shopping" So what was the noise about?

  • John Tex - 2013-10-08 10:35

    I'm sure he did from one crook to another

  • Colin Nelson - 2013-10-08 10:43

    One skabenga to another;;;;;;;;;;;;;

  • Muzi Cele - 2013-10-08 10:47

    "I'm not condoning what crime he committed".This statement makes me laugh.Hahahaha!!!