Selebi has to pay back fees - Tlali

2011-12-02 22:40

Johannesburg - Former national police commissioner Jackie Selebi has to pay the State back for all his legal fees, the department of justice says.

"We are going to start calculating the actual amount owing and communicate with Mr Selebi through his lawyers," said department spokesperson Tlali Tlali on Friday.

When asked what would happen if Selebi could not pay back the money, Tlali said: "We will follow normal debt recovery processes."

Selebi asked the State to assist him in carrying the cost of his legal fees during his corruption trial.

In a pre-trial agreement with the State, he agreed to pay back all the costs if he lost his case.

Selebi was sentenced to 15 years' imprisonment for corruption after accepting payments from convicted drug trafficker Glenn Agliotti, but appealed the conviction.

The Supreme Court of Appeal on Friday found that the South Gauteng High Court in Johannesburg was correct in ruling that he had received payments from convicted drug trafficker Glenn Agliotti.

Selebi had to be taken to hospital when he saw on television that his appeal against his corruption conviction had failed.

The former Interpol president was watching the SCA's judgment on television when he collapsed and could not walk.

Selebi has until Sunday evening to report to Johannesburg Prison, also known as "Sun City", to start his sentence.

  • Dean Kenad - 2011-12-02 22:52

    Shame i am begining to empathise with him. Sad

      jacques.koorts - 2011-12-02 23:10


      goyougoodthing - 2011-12-03 07:51

      Don't. He deserves more than this, and so do his partners in crime.

      Larry - 2011-12-03 08:12

      I just feel sad that Agliotti and his mates are not joining him. There's enough in that bunch alone, to fill a jail and create employment for quite a few Prison Warders.

      Brian - 2011-12-03 08:26

      Larry - not to speak of the huge cost to tax payers like us to house; feed and clothe them!

      Tony - 2011-12-03 18:11

      Dean - Are you for real broo, or maybe a troll or maybe a droll -

  • neil.hopwood - 2011-12-02 22:55

    And so he should. As a taxpayer i'm tired of having to keep my nose clean to allow these criminals the right to pilfer from all and sundry whilst being on the States pay-roll and think they can get away with it. Selebi abused his position to enrich himself, and now he must pay, and if he can't pay, his family must whilst he serves his rightful sentence. They benefitted from his actions, so screw them too. It's time more South Africans take a stand against this crap, and screw his apparent 'collapsing', shame, poor little damsel. Go and serve your time you crook! Some Police Commissioner example you led Selebi.

      Walter - 2011-12-03 05:27

      If he has the sort of money that the taxpayers have had to fork out to cover this huge cost, I'll eat my hate! Even if he had it would have been spirited away by now...... except perhaps for a house and car(s)? I'm sure all are on financial plans anyway. The law/policy should be that the accused pays up front and then the money is refunded if his defence is successful. He should only be entitled to legal assistance like any other civilian charged with a crime/crimes.

  • Dewdawn - 2011-12-02 22:56

    Is it possible that Tlali Tlati is the next one that will go to the wall to save JZ. The government officials that authorised the payments must now be sued in their personal capacities brcause the in effect 'lent' Selebi tax Rands without having security in place. Sure this act also contravenes the NCA and the Public Protector must now issue a report on this blatant misuse of our tax Rands.

  • Henry - 2011-12-02 22:56

    Let this criminal do his time. Tired of these gangsters posing as public servants.

  • Chris - 2011-12-02 23:09

    No sympathy from my side, this man was an extremely well paid government employee, entrusted with heading up the police in a country suffering from one of the highest crime rates in the world, and somehow his just about 1 Million annual salary just wasn't enough, he sold the country out to the mafia, a known drug dealer whose merchanise right now is corrupting our youth. You greedy besterd, a million bucks just wasn't enough, but your constables have to make do with a lousy 100k per annumn, sticking their necks out to get shot and killed. Rot in hell Selebi.

  • Eugene - 2011-12-02 23:11

    looks good...just before the next elections. he'll get his credits back. and be out in no-time to go play golf with Shaik. Does wonders for the illness and shock when your own people turn 'against' you...after you became a embarrassment to them. seems in SA politics if you say sorry all is forgiven...he never said sorry, neither did Malema.

  • Xavier7034 - 2011-12-02 23:33

    What about the people who APPOINTED him and then also: .......Simelane......McBride.........Cele..........Shaik.........Maharaj........Rasool........the list of inept CADRE appointments goes on and on.....and the people are the ones that take the consequences - ask yourself ONE question JZ - what is happening to the EDUCATION of the YOUTH?

  • charmaine.rowlands - 2011-12-02 23:48

    what happened to all the money Glen gave him? He must have some left over to pay his bills, like we would have to if we lost a court case - dammit!! Doesn't the Asset Forfeiture Unit come and take all his goodies? That's what i thought happened when "ill-gotten gains" were part of the crime

      neil.hopwood - 2011-12-03 00:08

      thought 'died' when this lot took over......they now 'think' it is their right to do whatever they like!

      braamc - 2011-12-03 06:08

      Up his nose

  • maghdim - 2011-12-03 00:41

    Ag shame! Why don't they just leave him alone. He is an old man.

  • Jutta - 2011-12-03 00:44

    Shame... The poor guy. He worked hard for what he got!! May he rest in peace in jail.

  • Ian - 2011-12-03 01:23

    Selebi is no more corrupt than any other anc politicion, I reckon they wanted to bury him and have him truly out of the way, What dirt does he have about the party or some of its members, worth a small debate I reckon

      Brian - 2011-12-03 08:39

      Yeah, now he can negotiate a larger air conditioned cell with ensuit bathroom; a view of the gardens; a special medical aid permitting regular visits to Hospital if he isn't happy with the al la carte meals he gets; flat screen TV; Seally P matress etc and early release for good behaviour after 6 months.

  • Shoe - 2011-12-03 02:05

    Even though perhaps I should'nt, but I feel very sorry for him. Finish 'n Klaar.

      Squatter - 2011-12-03 04:10

      @Shoe. Have you recovered by now Shoe? Looking at the time of your post, you must have come in from a wild party and had too may Johnny Walkers! LOL

      Shoe - 2011-12-03 17:28

      LOLLEST Bhubesi. I feel sorry for the guy....and the babalaas is not helping:).

  • Trevor - 2011-12-03 05:16

    What a load of crock!! How the HELL will he pay back the MILLIONS he owes????? They will anyway take back all he has that was gained from his criminal activities then that is sick and tired of these HOLLOW ANC effective as RDP housing and the coming National Health Insurance that Pravin Gordon tells us, we won't be taxed more to pay....Has the average South African become this brain dead that they think we won't see through this bullsh&%^t they throw at us??

  • Deeteem - 2011-12-03 05:56

    Rot in hell criminal !! Fear not, many more of your comrades will join you soon !!

      Ibhubesi - 2011-12-03 06:06

      @Deeteem. Have some coffee Brother and forget this old man. He will put up a show that would get him to the Oscars. He was a weakling from the outset and not worthy of the position. There is very little expertise in the ANC actually qualified to do the jobs they should be doing. They put the portfolios in a hat and then draw randomly that is why you have this mess.

  • braamc - 2011-12-03 06:06

    They will follow normal debt recovery channels - hahaha, these ANC government only good for stealing public funds, look at the state of all municipalities, how is there debt recovery going? Anyhow all monies is probably up his nose.

      George - 2011-12-03 06:54

      Just like the travel scam. gov purchased the debt and closed the case. Nobody has to pay a cent. Thats how the anc crooks work

  • Silvana - 2011-12-03 06:32

    "Selebi had to be taken to hospital when he saw on television that his appeal against his corruption conviction had failed." This is bizarre! If he couldn't appear in court surely his attorney should have contacted him before it appeared on TV. Anyway age does not exonerate you from being punished for a crime. So no sympathy from me. A deal is a deal so you have to pay the legal costs. I'm sure your house in Waterkloof will go a long way to cover the costs. Let's see how this "soapie" develops.

  • foster.mavuka - 2011-12-03 06:49

    Ma1 enyu mudhara.

  • Kevin - 2011-12-03 06:52

    I assume that any monies that he might pay back would be stolen...?

  • frank.hartry - 2011-12-03 06:54

    This is good. Zuma and the state had a similar arrangement. It is believed [but is yet another state secret] that we taxpayers forked out about R100 million for Zuma's legal fees during the years that he vigorously fought to avoid proving he is innocence of the numerous allegations of corruption. against him. When illegally withdrawn by the NPA,even Mpshe maintained that the NPA had a strong case against Zuma. If therefore the charges are re-instated, Zuma will have to pay back his legal fess to the state. Knowing how he loves money, Zuma must be a worried man right now. That is why he has surrounded himself with the cronies that supported him during those years. ie Hulley, Heath Maharaj and until recently, Cele.

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-12-03 07:01

    From Sun City Hotel to Sun City Prison. Political power is deceptive indeed.

  • Mart - 2011-12-03 07:05

    If you feel sorry for this man who has disrespected you as a tax payer and citizen and has shown nothing but arrogance, you are part of the problem in this country.

  • Fanie - 2011-12-03 07:21

    Selebi don't pull a Shaik trick on us!! Get out of the hosipital bed and report to jail you totally corrupt fu@kker!!!

  • Hunter - 2011-12-03 07:21

    Miskien kan oubaas Glen hier bietjie help met paar rand.

  • kev47 - 2011-12-03 07:29

    I feel sorry for his wife... she stood by him, even after his philandering, and now may end up destitute because of debt recovery.

      Fanie - 2011-12-03 07:49

      So what??

      George - 2011-12-03 18:52

      So what she enjoyed spending and the high life

  • Robi - 2011-12-03 07:38

    "We are going to start calculating the actual amount owing and communicate with Mr Selebi through his lawyers," said department spokesperson Tlali Tlali on Friday" If this is true I do not be suprised why we experience service delivery protests. The state giving public funds without accounting. Very suprising that after the trial the state wants to calculate to understand how much they spend on Jackie Selebi. This is shocking and irritating.

  • Christo - 2011-12-03 08:03

    Jail is my friend - finish and klaar!

  • Ina - 2011-12-03 08:10

    Yes, Mr Zumas tjommie. He wont pay a sent and will be let out because he is terminally ill Don't you know. Just look at all the other criminal walking, around playing golf, smoking cigars and smoking the public! But first Mr Zuma must confess

  • Ina - 2011-12-03 08:11

    Yes, Mr Zumas tjommie. He wont pay a sent and will be let out because he is terminally ill Don't you know. Just look at all the other criminal walking, around playing golf, smoking cigars and smoking the public! But first Mr Zuma must confess

  • Andrew - 2011-12-03 08:15

    Well lets see what happens next!Its thought the fees were about R14 million. So where is Jacks going to get this? Now lets see; there will be the severence package then mmmm...... waht else. Then he'll be able to pay it from the small change.

  • Johann - 2011-12-03 08:33

    Just think of the damage he has done to your country in the eyes of the rest of the world and your empathy will go , this man was part of Interpol and he hung around with drug dealers, the saying goes " Show me your friends and I know wat you are"

  • RoryTaljaard - 2011-12-03 08:37

    He is pulling A Shabir Shaik by collapsing!

  • Roy - 2011-12-03 09:40

    And "if" he goes to jail will he also land up in their medical facilities for a few months,found to be terminally ill,and then sent home for compassionate reasons and to live his last few days? Shabir Sheik comes to mind and I woner if he is still "alive"

  • Phill - 2011-12-03 13:03

    Does Mr Tladi still have credibilty. This is the man whose soul can be bought cheaply. This is the man who had a "strong case" agaisnt Zuma and when his boss (Mpshe) dropped charges against Zuma, he suddenly became such an eloquent convert of the Zuma Justice Department. How do we know that like Selebi, he was not bribed into dropping Zuma's charges? Is it a classic case of a pot calling a kettle black.

  • Michele - 2011-12-03 13:09

    Why can I not get legal fees from the government I help to pay to run? Howcome I get to pay for someone who stole from me? WTF?

  • Serame - 2011-12-03 17:08

    Its amazing how our justice system works..I support and agree with the judgement on this case..But to think dat Glen Aglioti is still out there and who knows what he's upto..i mean he is a self confessed drug lord..i think he should have also recieved a miimum sentence of some sort..they must all rot in jail where they all belong..The actions have destroyed a lot of families as we all know what drugs do to addicts..

  • Langalakhe - 2011-12-03 17:54

    its time to reap what you have sowen Mr Selebi.

  • Anthony - 2011-12-03 18:17

    They are scared of Agliotti? Of course they are. He kills people.

  • George - 2011-12-03 18:56

    Recover the money from where. Is his assets worth 17mil What of the shortfall. Who will then cough up for that

  • Schalk - 2011-12-03 19:10

    'There go I but for the grace of God.' What about you?

  • Neil - 2011-12-03 20:14

    The ANC probably would've found him a hole to slither through had he not formerly been a high ranking member of Interpol. Probably concerned about outside opinion if this snake managed to sail away. Wouldn't want to to expose South Africa for the gangster's paradise it is, now would they?

  • baklady - 2011-12-06 14:00

    Where is Agliotti and what is going to happen to him????? He has bruised our economy, and he is a top drug dealer, isn't that reason enough for him to go jail as well????? Or is there anything we are missing???? where is HE????

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