Selebi lawyers liaising with prison officials

2011-12-05 12:08

Johannesburg - Former top cop Jackie Selebi's lawyers will liaise with correctional services about Selebi being unable to report to jail as expected, his attorney Wynanda Coetzee said on Monday.

This was after the lawyers met the registrar of the South Gauteng High Court to explain why Selebi had not reported for his 15-year prison sentence on Sunday as required once his appeal against his corruption conviction failed.

The former national police commissioner collapsed on Friday when the appeal was dismissed and he was taken to hospital. The medical report indicated it was as a result of a long standing condition.

Coetzee would not say what this was.

Selebi was found guilty of corruption for accepting money from convicted drug trafficker Glenn Agliotti and giving Agliotti benefits such as showing him a British drug investigation report.

Selebi was also president of Interpol.

The National Prosecuting Authority said Selebi's lawyers had approached the agency on Saturday to say he might not be able to present himself to correctional services on Sunday.

They were told to approach the court registrar for this.

Beeld reported Coetzee as saying: "If the order is that he must go to jail, then that will happen."

Asset Forfeiture Unit head Willie Hofmeyr told SABC radio news that the money paid to Selebi amounted to about R165 000.

"We've already obtained a confiscation order. We are waiting for the finalisation of the appeals and then that money will be payable... Our law entitles us to adjust those to inflation so the total order we obtained [was] for about R230 000," Hofmeyr told the broadcaster.

  • Deon - 2011-12-05 12:23

    The prison also have doctors that can treat "long standing diseases". They are making a mockery of the judical system.

      Thelma - 2011-12-05 12:32

      There are prisoners with terminal cancer in jail and they get medical treatment. Why can't this idiot get the same treatment?

      Mike - 2011-12-05 12:52

      Better yet, let his lawyers go and sit (represent him) in jail until Selebi is "ready"! Then you will see how quickly the application is withdrawn!!

      Barrie - 2011-12-06 06:35

      Deon - is the mockery of the judical system not warrented? Corruption is not justifiable ever(!!) and is the root of so much evil in SA but I cannot help wondering how he gets 15 years for (an adjusted for inflation) amount of R230k while (far more anonymous) convicted murderers and rapists are out after serving a fraction of their sentences (if at all). This is a good way to show no one is above the law but is it right that anyone, no matter who they are, should be made a particular example of as a result of their "celebrity"? Seems the system is plagued by so many double standards... still - let's hope this sentence sends the desired message (and is ultimately served).

  • The-third - 2011-12-05 12:23

    Symptoms of the infamous Schabir-shivers. CURED only by golf and moering journos.

  • Msholozi - 2011-12-05 12:30

    he must complete his medical checks you cannot throw him in jail before that there are people behind this rushing in the western cape

      Marc - 2011-12-05 12:43

      He was very quick to accept bribes and money from known criminals, but very slow to accept his punishment! They have doctors in the prison hospitals who can perform the tests, or are you implying that the prison doctors are not good enough. And we are not only in the Western Cape, idiot.

      Deon - 2011-12-05 13:00

      The prison also due check ups, he suffers from a chronic disease for years. Probably high bloodpressure or anxiety / depression.

      Patrick - 2011-12-05 13:23

      Msholozi, you typify the brainless sheep who hero worship the likes of Mugabe, Malema, Shaik and anyone else who is hell bent at self enrichment, corruption etc.It is exactly this type of mentality that has reduced so many African states to beggar status and abject poverty. Yet you never learn and continue to hurtle yourselves off cliffs like lemmings.

      Johnnie - 2011-12-05 13:43

      He can get his medical checks in jail. It is not only people in the Western Cape that says so, all honest people says so.

      Jacqui - 2011-12-05 16:06

      Nonsense and stop blaming the Western Cape. We have nothing to do with him or his crimes.

      Peter - 2011-12-05 16:53

      GAUTENG reader says - RUSH HIM TO JAIL. How is that for RUSHING Msholozi? Get well soon Jackie-boy, and be careful in jail because there are a lot of slippery snakes in there.

      Mike - 2011-12-05 18:00

      @ Peter: NOW-NOW: Give this man (JS) a blue light brigade to "Sun City"! I may even pay for this one!!!!

      madsipho - 2011-12-06 10:20

      Msholozi I believe you're one of Zuma's son, Criminal in making and keep blaming white people for your criminal actions...

  • Wendy - 2011-12-05 12:30

    This revolting character embarrassed all South Africans and should summarily be frog marched into jail to pay his just deserts.

  • makatika - 2011-12-05 12:32

    I really hate politics there is no guarantee and like Malema said “There is no permanent friendship in politics” Mbeki out, Shaik out, Malema out, Selebi out,Cele out, Maharaj you next. Can you really notice Comrade JZ trying to clean himself, all I am willing to say for now is the wheels must be turning if a progress is to be made.

      JohnnyBGood - 2011-12-05 12:34

      Hopefully Selebi will be in (jail, that it) !!!

      madsipho - 2011-12-06 10:27

      Zuma is next, and he will in jail here in our life rime, God is my witness...

  • Vicker - 2011-12-05 12:37

    "Beeld reported Coetzee as saying: "If the order is that he must go to jail, then that will happen."" Ummmm that IS the order - so off you go now you f***ing criminal... So now everybody sits back and waits for him to decide he is ready?

  • PB - 2011-12-05 12:38

    What about recouping the R16 million this farce has already cost the taxpayer in legal fees to keep his corrupt ass out of jail?

  • deon.fourie - 2011-12-05 12:38

    Shame, poor thing. I wonder what an impact his "long standing condition" will have on his Golf Swing. It's tough when you have to cut dodgy deals on a course while you're constantly chipping sand in a bunker in the hot sun.

  • rlong1952 - 2011-12-05 12:43

    This is so sick (pun intended). Our justice system is the laughing stock of the world. Way to go ANC.... not !!!!

  • makatika - 2011-12-05 12:46

    I think he could save himself some money by reporting to jail because that means we will then have to take over the medical expenses. And he can use that money to contributes to the amount he owes the state

  • bernpm - 2011-12-05 12:47

    Question: who is paying these concerned lawyers for their "after care"?

  • Larry - 2011-12-05 12:47

    Selebi is wrigling like a worm on a hook. Suits the Worm.

  • Cina - 2011-12-05 12:51

    He didn't look very ill to me. If that is how a person looks that had a stroke I don't know them I must be stupid, because he looked quite healthy to me when I look at the news paper pictures and on the news he can still look at the camera.

  • Henry - 2011-12-05 12:55

    Wow..words fail me...and we wonder why corruption is our Government's favorite pastime. I've no sympathy for this scum. Lock him up, if indeed he is sick, let him die in prison.

      Paul - 2011-12-05 13:21

      Let him pay back the buks first and send it to where it's needed, that's not the ANC!!

  • Gregory - 2011-12-05 13:04

    How very strange! The afrikaans version of this very online publication, has indicated the true events, and that is that Judge Pather has dispatched a Registrar to the Jacaranda Hospital with an Order, to allow the condition of the old corrupt one, to be assessed. Based on this assessment, a decision will be made. Not liaison between his attorney and the prison! Wow. Myburgh, you really need to communicate with your staff, so they speak the same s&it, not different bits

  • Henk - 2011-12-05 13:10

    his photo in sunday's newspapers where he is in the back of an ambulance clearly showed that there is NOTHING wrong with him!! he doesnt even have an oxygen mask on? this is a criminal with a criminal mind thrying to use shaik's tricks!!!!

  • Peter - 2011-12-05 13:16

    He can be taken in an ambulance to a sick bay in the prison. If he is allowed to delay, then this country will be a laughing stock.

  • Melanie - 2011-12-05 13:28

    Are we at all surprised that he is now too ill to go to prison? It was totally predictable!! I suggest we recommend a new word for the Oxford dictionary - shabiritis!!!

  • Melanie - 2011-12-05 13:30

    Are we at all surprised that he is too ill to report to prison? This was totally predictable!! Shabiritis!! That's what he suffers from!

  • Mashudu - 2011-12-05 13:33

    Finish and Klaar Selebi must go to Jail.

  • Michelle - 2011-12-05 13:34

    I am sorry Ms Coetzee, but if it was all legit why not state what is wrong with him... It may garner some support for his cause. Unfortunately what has happened is exactly what people were joking about! ie "wonder if he will pull a Shaik" etc.

  • Johnnie - 2011-12-05 13:37

    Get him there as quickly as possible. He had a royal time while the going was good. He will have plenty of time now to learn.

  • JohnnyBGood - 2011-12-05 13:42

    @NEWS24, Please explain why comments got removed -- again ? IS there ANY guideline as to what is not accepted? 1) I did not swear 2) I did not mention religion or politics 3) I did not, as far as I am aware, mention anything that could be deemed 'sensitive' or that matter in-sensitive.

      Mike - 2011-12-05 17:52

      Sorry JohnnyBGood, you must have intervened the new "Shut-up-law"!

      Mike - 2011-12-05 17:54

      Heh, heh, or JS and Coetzee reported your comment to News24?

      JohnnyBGood - 2011-12-05 19:01

      @Mike, I merely tongue in cheeck stated that they should perhaps make use of the word 'alleged' as they almost always do when reporting anything. the other thing was on the reason he supposedly collapsed, maybe there were several other reasons, I guess my reasoning hit home and I got reported/flagged. Who knows.

      Mike - 2011-12-05 19:59

      Not too worry, I commented on your previous entry, so mine is gone too!?! Maybe because we agreed?

  • Alan - 2011-12-05 13:43

    Thumbs up for Lethal Injection.

  • Roy - 2011-12-05 13:45

    There is nothing wrong with this crook. He,through his Lawyers, is trying to stall the inevitable. The Lawyers are working for nothing because at the end of everything they won't be paid a cent and this is a good thing because they knew he is a crook.

  • Breedlike - 2011-12-05 13:53

    Is he paying for these lawyers himself, now that he is going to jail? Or are they doing it out of good will ( i doubt it). Well maybe the taxpayers are still footing the bill...

  • ludlowdj - 2011-12-05 14:03

    not acceptable he must simply be transferred to the prison hospital. We are tired of the ANC making a mockery of this country.

  • K0BUSL - 2011-12-05 14:05

    Isn't the Asset Forfeiture Unit forgetting the R15mil odd the state has paid for Selebi's defence, which he must now repay......

  • ron.lawrance - 2011-12-05 14:17

    Sounds like a repeat of Shaik's prison term, playing golf instead because, shame, he because terminally ill

  • Peter - 2011-12-05 14:22

    I bet that if his appeal had been sucessful, the Blue Label would be flowing with him and his ANC cronies celebrating. There would be no sign of illness! Rainmaker.

      Bernard - 2011-12-05 16:44

      This must be the best of all the comments here... YOU ARE 100% CORRECT Peter!!!

  • John - 2011-12-05 14:28

    What is this?? A joke? Get hs criminal a--se on that wheelbarrow and showe hin in that cell. perhaps his lawyers should be hel accountable for making a mockery of thr justice sysytem, attempting to waste the taxpayers money and insulting the intelligence of the entire South African nation.

  • Shirley - 2011-12-05 14:30

    Firstly what is NEW NEWS in this article compared to the last/ If Selebi is granted any form of "sick note get out of jail free card" then it is blatantly obvious that the powers that be are aiding and abetting this low life!

  • John - 2011-12-05 14:33

    Sorry. Now I got it. Whether Selebi stays in jail or not, does his legal team really care? no, I don't think so. I say: let them carry on. Selebi has been ordered to pay back 17.5 million Rand. His sponsorships are done.The more his legal team persist, the higher his bill. These are lawyers and they want their money. If selebi thinks they are doing this because they think he's a cool dude, I have some news for him. So, let him pile up a 20 million Rand debt AND go to jail or go to jail now and die from a bad conscience.

  • Marion - 2011-12-05 14:55

    TimesLive : "Jackie Selebi's defence team failed this morning to convince the registrar of the Johannesburg High Court that the disgraced former police chief is too sick to go to jail. The court has dispatched an investigating officer with a warrant of arrest to the Jacaranda Hospital, Pretoria, where he is recuperating after collapsing on Friday."

      Bernard - 2011-12-05 16:04

      Where he will again collapse when the officer arrives. All they need to remember, when delivering his limp body to the prison, is, when they lie him down in general population, to do it with his backside facing top LOL!!!!!!

  • Lindiwe - 2011-12-05 15:15

    SMH, disgusted. It's true that money and status talk. What happened to the doctors in prison who r qualified to maintain his sickness. It's not like he's dying tomorrow or something nxxx. Long standing condition my left foot.

  • Bernard - 2011-12-05 15:53

    Again we will see a culprit getting away with it, and the idiots in government just cannot see what that will do for the image of the country, as he was the chief of interpol at the time. Can the international court not press charges too, the crimes were committed whilts in interpol office, at least this way at least one sentence will actually happen?

  • Bernard - 2011-12-05 15:55

    Please eveyone, show some understanding... Prision doctors do not have the equipment to cure a yellow spine, and will also not be able to keep him anal retentive for more than a day... Kry vir jou jy bliksem!

      Peter - 2011-12-05 17:02

      Me and Shabir Shaikitis think prison doctors are awesome.

  • dduplessis - 2011-12-05 15:58

    It is so funny that he has suffered from a longstanding (Not sure what) disease and then wait for the day that his jail sentence is confirmed to fall over and be rushed to hospital. He must be suffering from "I am going to jail fall over and stay in a nice private ward syndrome"

  • Bernard - 2011-12-05 16:01

    I am amazed, just like a lawyer cannot pull you over & give you a trafic ticket, who the heck do his lawyers think they are to unilaterally enter liason and tell the pratt not to report tp prison??? A court of law has declared the sentence, he must report, and his lawyers can state his case on the outside, short of that they are obstructing justice, and must also get charged with a crime!!!

  • Jacqui - 2011-12-05 16:04

    They are trying for a medical pardon early. Fat cats policy all the way.

  • ibbetsonkennedy - 2011-12-05 20:03

    One down at least a 1000 more to go This Government is so corrupt and they should be throwing them selves over the cliff in shame The oh! so poor people of South Africa have no idea just how these cronies are enriching themselves at their cost and yet for some unfathomable reason they go on voting for them WAKE UP you are creating another failed state as is through the whole of Africa

  • proudlysa - 2011-12-05 22:36

    Where is Agliotti in all of this! Ater all he paid the bribes...?? Surely he should also be in jail?

  • Stanman - 2011-12-06 07:52

    This in justice for sure, on another point, I cant believe that the Egyptians are abut to vote in hardline islamist group into power. They just fought to be freed from tyranny and now they vote for them? that dont make sense, and these guys are almost like Al qaeda, women in Egypt will have even lesser freedon now, idiots that's all I can say.

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