Sex was discussed before satanic ritual

2013-10-10 14:42

Johannesburg - There was talk of having sex with Kirsty Theologo and her friend before they were set alight in an apparent satanic ritual, the South Gauteng High Court heard on Thursday.

"Lester [Moody] said we must sleep with the girls, not rape them," Linden Wagner, the alleged mastermind of the ritual, told the court, which is sitting in the Palm Ridge Magistrate's Court.

He said he did not agree with the suggestion.

Earlier, Wagner told the court that he and four of the other accused had been prepared to sell their souls on the day Theologo and her friend were doused with petrol and set alight in an alleged satanic ritual on a hill in Linmeyer, Johannesburg, in October 2011.

Theologo died of her burns a week later, but her 14-year-old friend survived the attack.

Wagner told the court Moody gave them alcohol laced with brake fluid. Theologo said she could not drink it because it tasted bad.

Knew what he was doing

Wagner testified that he knew exactly what he was doing when he attacked them.

"From the way I recall it, I knew what I was doing.... I knew where everything was [for the ritual]."

He said he had no feeling, thoughts or emotion during the attack. He had been under the influence of alcohol and drugs.

Wagner testified on Thursday that he remembered strangling Theologo's friend.

He placed his arms around her neck and held her until she was unconscious. He then tied her hands with a scarf.

"I don't remember having a conversation with anyone, or even seeing what I was doing until I saw them [the other people involved in the ritual] around Kirsty," he said.

"I then picked up a rock and walked up to her and dropped it on her head.

"It bounced and I lifted it up and hit her two times," he said.

He and the others cut their hands and let drops of their blood fall into a fire they had started. A Bible was also placed in the flames.

"Kirsty had regained consciousness and was standing. I splashed her with petrol. I then looked for a light.

"I heard Kirsty say she thought we were friends," said Wagner.

It was then that he set her alight. She was engulfed in flames, he said.

Theologo's mother Sylvia broke down in court and proceedings were adjourned.

Dressed in black

Earlier, Wagner told the court that he packed a Bible, a knife, and candles for the ritual.

"We dressed in black to prepare for the ceremony," he said.

Theologo did not know of their plans, and thought they were heading to the hill to drink alcohol.

Wagner had suggested that they hold the ritual at the hill.

"I suggested the mountain because I had been there before.... We couldn't have done it at the [my] flat because we needed an open area. We thought of going to the park, but we saw it was too open," Wagner said.

They smoked dagga on their way to the hill and came across a police van. The group ran away from the police.

Wagner said Theologo asked along the way why everyone was dressed in black.

"She said she too wanted to be dressed in black. Someone gave her a black jacket to put over her pink top," he said.

Wagner, Harvey Isha, Robin Harwood, and Courtney Daniels are on trial for murdering Theologo, attempting to murder of her friend, and for assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm. All have pleaded not guilty.

Two other accused, Jeremy King and Lester Moody, confessed to the crime and were each sentenced to 17 years' imprisonment, five of which were suspended.

The trial continues.

  • Menzi Mnandi Phewa - 2013-10-10 14:49

    bring back death penalty....even if as some claim, it cannot deter crime. It will rid us of rotten people.

      themba.maseko.568 - 2013-10-10 15:13

      Menzi what our society needs is for us to first treat each other with respect. Kids will learn from us. If we throw insults at each other all the time like crazy people, our kids will get the spill over. Death or no death penalty we need to fix our society, and it's starts with me and you!

      Yonela Bungane - 2013-10-10 15:32

      @Themba...They didn't insult Theo and her friend,they set them alight during a satanic ritual...

      Avalon Dragonrider - 2013-10-10 15:36

      I wish they would stop touting this as part of a "satanic" ritual when there is absolutely no proof apart from the perpetrators trying to pin the blame on an 'entity' that many people do not believe exists. Men do evil Evil is in men Dont always try to pass the blame by saying "someone else made you do it"

      FJ Cele - 2013-10-10 15:50

      Does anyone know how to contact news24, I want to request that the do not allow people to paste in the comments box? #Charles. He is spoiling this forum with his stupid comments that no one read and immediately dislike. I wish the idiot gets a klap.

      Tshepo Modimoeng - 2013-10-10 16:06

      Charles u need to read the topic before u comment, we are talking crime nd evil deeds your are talking racism pathetic nd stupid. If u have nothing to say its not a crime to remain silent, rather than to act desperate for attention.

      Jinxie - 2013-10-10 16:09

      I have to agree with you FJ Cele. He is an idiot ... Anybody can copy and paste all that crap ... H

      FJ Cele - 2013-10-10 16:11

      Charles - you will be glad to hear that I have send a request to N24 to deactivate the paste function. Hope that when you type out these silly provocative comments - they will become a part of you and that you always remember that you are a loser.

      Tshepo Modimoeng - 2013-10-10 16:12

      Charles u need to read the topic before u comment, we are talking crime nd evil deeds your are talking racism pathetic nd stupid. If u have nothing to say its not a crime to remain silent, rather than to act desperate for attention.

      wreford.white.9 - 2013-10-10 16:27

      @ Charles. Yip, it really sucks to be black. Get over it, or use a razor on your wrists. Not everything in your prejudiced little world is the fault of whites. I am not yet, but people like you will make me a racist.

      Katlego Nikita Moeng - 2013-10-10 16:38

      @charles you need to grow up. pasting stupid and unrelated things on something this sensitive is pathetic.

      Matthew Jones - 2013-10-11 08:01

      @ Natalie: Will you SPAM TROLLS bloody F OFF!!!! So sick and tired of seeing this crap on facebook,but news24 has you lot here aswell. News24 Admins,please delete and ban these people (the spammers) I hope a virtual hand comes of your PC and slaps you and anyone else who does this

      Sphiwe Dllamini - 2013-10-11 08:30

      Give Themba a Bells!

      OldNick - 2013-10-11 10:49

      Looking at the up-thumbs, it is clear that this is a very popular choice for dealing with the worst types or criminals. I have also up thumbed your statement as I am a firm believer that there certainly is merit in executing certain catagories of criminals. Considering that it costs about R40000 per annum to keep a criminal in prison, by ridding society permanently of certain types of criminals, that money can be used elsewhere - (how many RDP houses could be built if all the repeat murderers and rapists were executed - maybe a few thousand). Also by keeping them alive, means that they are able to spend their time planning to escape (as was recently seen with Mathias Maage) and once they escape they present an even greater threat to society than they did before - what have they got to lose - things are already as bad for them them as they're ever going to get. And then, I'm sure if the question is put to the victims and survivors of particularly brutal, vicious and hateful crimes, most will agree that knowing that the criminals who commit these crimes have been executed and are in fact dead, is preferable and far more convincing a display of justice being done, than length (and costly - for the tax payer) prison terms being handed down as punishment. Perhaps we should start a pro-death penalty movement, I'm sure if a referendum was held the results would be in favour of the DP being imposed for certain types and degrees of crime.

      Chilli Stephenson - 2013-10-11 11:18

      @ Siyanda.Mda Very true. The more people turn from Jesus, the more they turn to Satan. People do not have to believe, but that does not mean it isn't true and real. Satan is very real, and i have seen and experienced loads of demonic encounters. I don't care what anyone tells me, i know this stuff is real, and people need Jesus to be made Righteous with God for all their evil ways!

      James Bondiski - 2013-10-11 11:27


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  • FinalJustice - 2013-10-10 14:58

    How is this justice system of today; first you plead 'not guilty' and them you tell all the gory detail of how you commited the crime?

      Yonela Bungane - 2013-10-10 15:27

      That's the exact same question I asked myself after I read the article, Still haven't found the answer

      Mbutu Mbutu - 2013-10-11 09:38

      ask Pistorius

  • LeighTR - 2013-10-10 14:58

    Please can someone explain how he is admitting to all the acts he is accused of but he entered a plea of not guilty? Is that standard practice? Very sad story. I can't imagine the pain of the young survivor or Kirsty's mom.

      themba.maseko.568 - 2013-10-10 15:15

      The challenge is you also want yo know the truth so that as society we can fix such problems

      Nduna Mambo Omkwanilwa - 2013-10-10 15:49

      Legally, he is saying he is not guilty of murder even though he caused(or might have caused) her death.

  • Carling Blacklabel - 2013-10-10 15:02

    religion and nut cases do not mix well, this lot should all swing in the gallows

  • Martin Fourie - 2013-10-10 15:06

    Very, very sad, sincere condolences to family and friends. It is scary to know that such crazy, sick people live and walk amongst us. No motive, no anger, no hate, just cold-blooded murder.

      themba.maseko.568 - 2013-10-10 15:19

      Are we as society responsible for this? I think so. We as parents cannot control our emotions, anger, bitterness, and prejudices. This uncontrolled behaviour spills over to our younger people.

  • Lee Meissenheimer - 2013-10-10 15:09

    They do not deserve prison, they will just influence more people. Just remove them... permanently

  • Lilly Phogole - 2013-10-10 15:22

    Oh Lord have mercy on our kids. the devil is a liar and has no hold over any child in Jesus Name. Ohhh my God, may her soul rest in eternal peace of God.

      Yvonne Pontsho Mokete - 2013-10-10 16:11

      those who are pointing down i mean REALLY?

      Maggie Cox - 2013-10-10 18:57

      @Yvonne - as someone else just pointed out, not all of us are Christian.

      Thabo Sesing - 2013-10-10 19:12

      Believe it or not Satane o teng dihele di teng so REPENT b4 is 2 late.

  • Yonela Bungane - 2013-10-10 15:23

    I can't believe what I'm reading. How a human being can come up with a plan as cruel as this is beyond my imagination.

  • Adam Botshelo - 2013-10-10 15:24

    I wonder when and who started this satanism cult.

      Adam Botshelo - 2013-10-10 15:35

      Siyanda Peters can you kindly tell me, when was that and who where those followers you are talking about, i want facts not fiction.

      Avalon Dragonrider - 2013-10-10 15:39

      Siyanda Peter...pfffst

      Adam Botshelo - 2013-10-10 15:53

      @ siyanda. i don't what created the universe. how does that relate to my question?

  • Luzuko Libert Kamtshe - 2013-10-10 15:27

    What happened to the guillotines and axinz?These foetic devils should face such punnishments not prison

  • Luzuko Libert Kamtshe - 2013-10-10 15:30

    What happened to the guillotines and axinz?These foetic devils should face such punnishments not prison

  • Luks Jozi - 2013-10-10 15:31

    I wonder why they pleaded not guilty because one of them has committed the crime. They can not claim that their mental faculties were impaired because they knew what they were doing. These crimes were premeditated and therefore they must be treated like criminals. They do not deserve to live with people even in prison. KILL THEM

  • Mapere Rantho - 2013-10-10 15:35

    some of our community elements don't deserve to live amongs the community,realley the is something wrong in this country.

  • Khululiwe Nompumelelo - 2013-10-10 15:37

    ya neh only GOD knows abt us!!!!

  • Magomarele Gomi Thobejane - 2013-10-10 15:43


      OldNick - 2013-10-11 12:32

      Two simple words that say it all.

  • thozamile.tyana - 2013-10-10 15:47

    yerrrrr this z da tym 4 Christians to get together n fight against this satanism plz stop fighting alone plz

  • DesirĂ© Lubbe - 2013-10-10 16:10

    Charles, you have NO IDEA what you are talking about! Just making things up as you go.

  • Karabo Mokoena - 2013-10-10 16:13

    This is very bad, sad even. Will these churls ever stop with their killings?

  • Masilo Frans - 2013-10-10 16:22

    we must 2gether pray 2 fight divil......

  • Sanele Mokgabi - 2013-10-10 16:25

    Dis is a shame, where is our generation heading to?

  • Theesan - 2013-10-10 16:26

    What are the thoughts of those #RedOctober fools?

  • Karabo Mokoena - 2013-10-10 16:28

    "Most of the suspects said they felt rejected by their family and society" It all begins at home, passed on to the neighbour until it spreads to the whole world, it's more like a wildfire...that's RESPECT. We need to teach our children respect and love. Great leaders like Mahadma Gandhi and Desmond Tutu has been pleading for peace almost for their entire lifetime, it's not easy to bring the rotten wood together but faith and Godliness will make it possible.

  • Jonathan D Van Rooyen - 2013-10-10 16:43

    unbelievable story

  • Lehlohonolo Mohaleamalla - 2013-10-10 17:40

    For those who belive in satanism they will burn in the last days of their lives .

  • Babalife Successzimudzi - 2013-10-10 17:52 maSatanists

  • Vaughan Aladdin Magoni - 2013-10-10 17:56

    reading this article has truly made me sad.

  • Cois Dorfling - 2013-10-10 18:05

    sick teenagers.....wonder how they managed to get that far without being singled out as complete misfits....may they rot in jail, beyond recognition!!!!

  • Richard P 'Capri' Zitha - 2013-10-10 18:25

    a person steals a loaf of bread to eat nd gets min 10yrs imprisonment, dis guys deyv killd a human bein nd also attemptd to kill de ada, bt 2 out of de crew gt 17yrs jail tym... Law SuCkS!!!

      Christo Botha - 2013-10-11 05:11

      A guy that steals a loaf of bread doesn't even get on the court role!

  • Pierre Van Der Walt - 2013-10-10 18:34

    F(&^ng killers and those opposing death penalty are equally guilty.

  • Danny Letsholo - 2013-10-10 20:02

    South african law sucks 17 years for brutal murder like that arg sies mahn.

  • Thivhakoni Mafumo - 2013-10-10 20:20

    NO satanic, it is results of Alcohol and drug abuse period

  • Zeepolar - 2013-10-10 23:10

    savages!! why is no one blaming the government or saying "only in africa"?? or does it only apply to "my kind"??

      Chris Jonker - 2013-10-11 05:26

      Because such things happen elsewhere too. I ive in Papua New Guinea and read this morning in the local newspaper about a man who bit through the throat of his 3 year old daughter and sucked her blood, while eating at the flesh. She died of course. There are disturbed people everywhere.

  • Richard - 2013-10-11 08:09

    Surely the Satanist Church should be sited as an accomplice in these murders and rituals. This church even has an official website. The world has gone mad. In many ways I think life i the world has become to easy and our kids are bored.

  • Edward Chitsonga - 2013-10-11 08:45

    worship must be outlawed because it is inhuman and undemocratic. Why watch this religion continue to perpetrate terrible and barbaric acts against fellow human beings in the name of religious freedom. Someone somewhere must initiate an anti-satanic worship campaign to bring this madness to an end.

  • Lebogang Casper Molomonyana - 2013-10-11 08:48

    Dear God Please help us live a holy life. Strengthen us,cover us in the blood of the lamb Jesus Chris our Lord and savior. Let your will be done as it is in heaven,in Jesus name Amen

  • Cindy Botha Patrick - 2013-10-11 11:08

    Its just sad that this poor girls family have to relive this nightmare over and over, why has it taken so long to find these morons guilty seriously 2 years?

  • Lona Xashimba - 2013-10-11 12:48

    These kid had intentions to kill, they might claim that they were high and it was a ritual point is they knew what they were doing and i will not be surprised if Justice fails us again.

  • Leendert Stolk - 2013-10-11 12:56

    How can he describe what he did and still plead not guilty? I don't understand how that works - someone, help!!

  • Atholl Hay - 2013-10-11 13:35

    There is no god, there is no devil, just delusional human beings.

  • James Smythe - 2013-10-12 08:16

    What sort of creatures are these? It would be a great mercy and a service to humanity to end them.

  • Sharon Tarin - 2013-10-14 13:26

    Satanic ritual should not be a mitigating circumstance on any level. A serious, horrific crime was committed... isnt that the gist of it. The sentences of the others are laughable.

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