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Shoot the Boer appeal canned

2012-10-31 11:26

Johannesburg - Former ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema, the ANC and AfriForum have buried the hatchet in their bitter feud over the struggle song, Shoot the Boer.

City Press understands that the parties reached an 11th-hour settlement before the appeal case was due to be argued in the Supreme Court of Appeal (SCA) in Bloemfontein on Thursday.

Last year, the struggle song Dubul’ iBhunu (Shoot the Boer) was declared hate speech by Judge Colin Lamont in the South Gauteng High Court, sitting as the Equality Court.

The matter went to court after AfriForum laid a complaint over Malema who repeatedly sang the song at official ANC Youth League events.

In a judgment that was widely criticised for being too broad, Lamont found that the words of the song were “derogatory, dehumanising and hurtful”.

Lamont interdicted all members of the ANC from singing the song in public or at private functions.

The judgment sparked protest and criticism from ANC members, with the party vowing to take the battle for the right to sing the song all the way to the Constitutional Court.

AfriForum promised to fight the ANC every step of the way.

But City Press has reliably learnt that the parties to the dispute finally reached an out-of-court settlement on Tuesday.

Details of the settlement were due to be announced at a joint press conference between the ANC, AfriForum and agricultural union Tau SA - also a party to the case - later on Wednesday.

The ANC will likely withdraw the appeal in the SCA on Thursday.

Comments
  • thifulufhelwi.masala - 2012-10-31 11:16

    Waste of energy on that artcle. I even wonder y u bother urself by posting something without information at all

      claudia.meads - 2012-10-31 11:32

      Please translate into English...

      luther.kingsley.5 - 2012-10-31 11:37

      thifulufhelwi.masala, I agree, but also the real question is: Why do political figures get away with this when the Supreme court has ruled against it: Malema and others sang this song after the ruling and they were not arested? SARS have known for years about Malema's tax avoidance, why was he not arrest then, why only now? Zuma refused to hand over the tapes after being ordered to do so, why was he not arrested? It looks like the top brass in the justice system is protecting these criminal leaders.

      JuditVictor - 2012-10-31 11:46

      Why would they insist on those lyrics in a country where killing is second nature... no wait... make that first nature. The blood lust is staggering.

      godfrey.welman - 2012-10-31 11:47

      @Luther..Agree 100%....can't wait for 2014 for real democracy to begin under DA rule.

      mariuskowie - 2012-10-31 11:48

      @sanda.mnyazi. "de la rey" is not hate speech.

      frank.vankaapstad - 2012-10-31 11:49

      Our country is suffering from a moral decay and life, and everyones right to exist, is not respected anymore. This is why the crime in this country is so much more violent compared to other even poorer countries. This situation is exacerbated when the leaders of this country keep using words like struggle, revolution, blood, shoot the boer, etc. If the idea of fighting for everything keeps being reinforced, that is what will happen. The masses look to the leaders for guidance and the leaders have to act in a very responsible manner. It doesn't help if Juju sings struggle songs and Vavi stands next to the miners proclaiming he will spill his blood with them to fight for higher wages. We all know what the result of that was. We cannot tolerate hate speech, we need to adapt far softer language and attitudes to help reestablish respect and kindness in our society.

      brad.ken.18 - 2012-10-31 11:54

      All I see in that mugshot, is a replica of one of Einstein's experiments gone HORRIFICALLY wrong!

      alan.smart.102 - 2012-10-31 12:28

      @Sanda...wake up bro, De La Rey is a song about the Anglo Boer War. You're not British, are you....so please STFU

      john.fourie.18 - 2012-10-31 12:32

      @Luther: because the matter was under appeal. They order is then stayed until the appeal is heard that will either confirm it or set it aside. Assuming that the appeal has, in fact, been withdrawn, the order will now have to be obeyed at pains of imprisonment.

      godesha - 2012-10-31 13:06

      Sanda, clearly you have no idea what the song De la Rey is all about? Do you even know who he was and what he stood for? No, I bet you don't. Why don't you go Google General Koos De la Rey and educate yourself a little. You may be surprised at what you learn. Don't even compare the two songs.

      handy.andy.3990 - 2012-10-31 13:24

      @Sandy - The De La Ray song is not aimed at anyone, and it is historically accurate of a time of war between the Afrikaner and the British. Shoot the boer is aimed at a group of people that have lost 4000 lives since 1994, more soldiers than the USA have lost in Iraq. Its not funny, and certainly not helping anyone.

      fussed.anderson - 2012-10-31 13:54

      The ancyl will change there minds again. Then it will start all over again, get a court date, wait 12 mths ..........

      bow.hunter.1884 - 2012-10-31 18:03

      Sanda, the De La Rey song has nothing to do with black people at all. Why are some black people so preoccupied with this song? It is about the Anglo-Boer War. And by the way, Afrikaners does not have such a chip on their shoulders about the English or British. History is history.

      jon.jones.90663894 - 2012-10-31 18:14

      @sandy -- from my surname you will deduce that I am a 'soutpXXl' ie my forebears were British ( partly ). And I sing that song. If it was 'hate speech ' why would I sing a song about a man who took up arms against my forebears?. Because it is not directed at me. It is about a man. A great man who would not allow his troops to disrespect the bodies of fallen British soldiers and who when he could not support his prisoners of war just let them go ( minus their much needed rifles and ammo of course! ). If South Africa had a leader like De La Rey this country would be paradise.

      No.You're a handbag - 2012-10-31 23:07

      OMG sanda.mnyazi - you DO realise the difference between calling for murder and a song about culture, right? I don't like De La Rey much, but I've listened to the lyrics, and nowhere does it say 'run out and kill black people.' It's morons who can't find their butts with both hands, and people who believe BS like this, that are the reason SA is in so much trouble. Eish!

      eric.vanvuuren - 2012-11-01 07:31

      Racism is racism. SInging of that song is just as bad as... "Sleep hom bietjie hier Sleep hom Bietjie daar..." Does Not really matter from which angle you try to spin it. It belongs with the "animals" who would rather see everything destroyed than peace between black and white. With the thief who want us busy fighting while they reach their own selfish goals. Idiots and sheep follow these mongrels. And the people that want to be free have to pay for the idiocy of the sheep.

      sean.carbutt - 2012-11-01 08:12

      @sandy and all the other black racists: Lets get something clear here as you lot apparently are either stupid or just retarded. The song De Larey has nothing to do with blacks, nothing. It is about the Boers and British. So before you test tube babies try and make that song a black thing, maybe, just maybe, you want to use the horrible white mans invention called the internet. Once on the internet, use this other horrible white mans invention called GOOGLE and search for the meaning of the sed song, until then STFU

  • sanchez.sancho.7 - 2012-10-31 11:28

    you cant spend a week without bringing JUJU into your news hey??

      gift.mushi.9 - 2012-10-31 12:03

      We miss him. After Mangaung he will be back in full force on the cover of every Media's (Magazines), Die Beeld, Die Sonder, Die Burger, etc. He just need a guidance, he will be a good President of South Africa in 15 years time.

      Jeremy - 2012-10-31 12:14

      Hi Gift, in 15 years time, Juju will be a forgotten man. By then, a whole new generation of "born-frees will have come through the system. Unlike Julius, they'll have an education - and will be QUALIFIED to lead this country. Why on earth would you want an uneducated creature like Julius running SA - unless you thought you could benefit from the corruption and nepotism he'd bring with him?

      joe.farmer.92775 - 2012-10-31 12:25

      in this case it isn't impolite to return a gift

      gift.mushi.9 - 2012-10-31 13:14

      @ Jeremy. Juju is in his final year of LLB degree at UNISA. He confided to me that he will be enrolling for Master's in Law next year. I know he is a hard worker coming to school issues in 10 years to come, he will have added MBA, Courses in International Relation, Economics and Polotics. With brushing and proper guidance from ANC elders he will be fine tuned come 2027. J Malema for President of South Africa in 2028.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-10-31 13:26

      In 15 years time Juju will be an old senile man chasing goats out of his kraal...

      kala.bafazi - 2012-10-31 13:31

      Hahaha Gift... You're funny.

      Jeremy - 2012-10-31 13:32

      Sorry Gift, you're wrong again. Despite the fact that he failed his matric abysmally, he IS enrolled at Unisa for a BA course in commun ications and African languages. But he certainly isn't in his final year LLB which is a 7-year course requiring an apprenticeship with a law firm. Oh and by the way, a Masters degree comes BEFORE and LLB....so please stop talking nonsense!

      Tebz001 - 2012-10-31 14:05

      @ Gift,Very funny!!

      peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-10-31 14:13

      @gift, you are right he will be in every news paper because he will be convited of corruption and thrown in jail!

      peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-10-31 14:14

      @gift hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Malema in law school!!! Don't you have to pass matric to get into UNISA?

      mike.down.5492 - 2012-10-31 14:58

      Jeremy a masters comes AFTER an LLB I and it is a 4 year course if you only do an LLB if you do a BA LLB then it is 5 years in total.

  • makavelithedonkilluminati.shakur - 2012-10-31 11:32

    lol,its clear that you are untouchable homeboy Juju.Now help us remove JZ in December,we the educated masses and youth of S.A are tired of that old selfish thief.

      richard.bosmano - 2012-10-31 12:02

      Thanks for the good laugh , educated masses and youth.......

      peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-10-31 14:16

      Hahahaha educated!!! If you are tired of the selfish thief then how on earth can you support Malema who is the biggest thief of them all???

  • Jeremy - 2012-10-31 11:33

    It looks as though Julius has a) realised this is a case he can't win and b)that he's run out of money to pay his lawyers!

      makavelithedonkilluminati.shakur - 2012-10-31 12:05

      Nah,Juju ain't broke man. He is stiil extending his grandma's house in Seshego.

      Jeremy - 2012-10-31 12:21

      Maybe he needs a place to stay!

      johny.stront - 2012-10-31 12:55

      Great! He can come and stay at my place. I have a nice shallow grave in my backyard for him.

      lekgalenelsons - 2012-10-31 13:23

      @ Jeremy, I don't think so, JULIUS is a very inteligent guy and he knows how to play his cards hence he will become a President of this country one day.

      Jeremy - 2012-10-31 13:50

      lekgalenelsons....if you seriously believe that then, with respect, you're as dim as him! He's street-smart, but he certainly isn't intelligent - and a complex country like SA needs someone with sound academic qualifications to run it.....NOT Julius Malema!

      peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-10-31 15:12

      I agree with you guys about Malema being inteligent! He has managed to rob South Africans of their tax money and yet he still has guys like you that support him or are you also part of his gravy train just waiting for more hand outs!!

      carol.brand.5030 - 2012-11-01 10:27

      Because Julius "Jelly Tsotsi" Malema is essentially a coward. Just like ZOOMer who dropped his case against Zapiro! BWAHAHAHA! At the end of the day they dont have the inteligence for follow through. OMG! McDonald's anyone? I'm lovin' it)

  • merkwaardig.obskuur - 2012-10-31 11:33

    Where can I buy a Malema beret?

      hermann.hanekom - 2012-10-31 11:46

      You also want to look pathetic?

      joe.farmer.92775 - 2012-10-31 11:48

      perfect for smuggling pancakes

      claudia.meads - 2012-10-31 11:52

      I also want one - it is quite 'remarkable' (hint, hint).., It is the only open ended device, in the known universe, that can contain a complete vacuum...

      asdhasgd - 2012-10-31 12:30

      Pep.

      laurens.smit.507 - 2012-10-31 13:16

      Why? Do you want to park a bigger turd in it?

  • willem.vanrensburg.562 - 2012-10-31 11:34

    FANTASTIC NEWS...now, lets move forward together and make this country work..stop the fighting and stuff..!!!

  • veldt66 - 2012-10-31 11:34

    Money wasted with all this Bull'''

  • veldt66 - 2012-10-31 11:35

    Money wasted with all this Bull'''

  • kala.bafazi - 2012-10-31 11:36

    The anc and/or their members seem to be pulling out of a lot of court cases recently. I wonder why. Chicken pooh.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-10-31 13:27

      Trying to win sympathy from white voters?

  • Michael - 2012-10-31 11:36

    As an ANC member, i think the party did well, it is not necessary to sing songs which intimmidate other people,some songs are irrelevant and they dont have space in our democratic country, and it goes the same way to all people who are still practicing hatred and racism, they must stop.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-31 13:17

      Agreed 100%. Can we, will we ever move on?

  • goodguy.buthelezi - 2012-10-31 11:38

    I wish they could reach the same agreement when it comes to Land, mineral resources and wealth of this country..

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-31 13:06

      Not education ??

      steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-10-31 13:13

      You and your want-it-all-for-free buddies should learn about work ethic. Troll.

      louis.scholtz1 - 2012-10-31 17:19

      You are an idiot...

  • johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-10-31 11:42

    Good gesture.

  • ppisciotta - 2012-10-31 11:42

    Why keep showing this picture of Malema trying to make "good poopie" for is mommy?

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-31 12:52

      He did, but the wrong one came back

      Andrea - 2012-10-31 13:10

      hahahahahahahhhahah, thanks andrez. I wonder if his mother noticed?

      Andrea - 2012-10-31 13:26

      houtwerk klas vir dommies

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-10-31 11:44

    Oh dear what a circus so I will sing in my falsetto voice "Bobbejaan klim die berg".

  • makhosonke.mqikela - 2012-10-31 11:47

    It shows the 'fittest' flexing their financial muscles in the midst of the poor.

      Adil Smit - 2012-10-31 11:52

      What do you mean?

      joe.farmer.92775 - 2012-10-31 12:02

      in the words of the ever cool Samuel L "English MF! Do you speak it?"

      lorain.maseko - 2012-10-31 12:42

      @ makhosonke seriously dude how will singing about murder enhance the lives of poor people? i just dont think that song has relevance currently,it did at a certain point but right now it serves no purpose toher than to make a bad situation worse.Trust me poor people dont need songs 9especially about murder) they need a government who cares.

  • frank.vankaapstad - 2012-10-31 11:48

    Our country is suffering from a moral decay and life, and everyones right to exist, is not respected anymore. This is why the crime in this country is so much more violent compared to other even poorer countries. This situation is exacerbated when the leaders of this country keep using words like struggle, revolution, blood, shoot the boer, etc. If the idea of fighting for everything keeps being reinforced, that is what will happen. The masses look to the leaders for guidance and the leaders have to act in a very responsible manner. It doesn't help if Juju sings struggle songs and Vavi stands next to the miners proclaiming he will spill his blood with them to fight for higher wages. We all know what the result of that was. We cannot tolerate hate speech, we need to adapt far softer language and attitudes to help reestablish respect and kindness in our society.

  • talana.malherbe - 2012-10-31 11:58

    I don't believe in taking anything away from any culture in SA, our differences and diversity is what makes us unique. However, think about the youngster of 12 or 13 attending a ANCYL rally and hearing this song... Not good example for the future leaders of society. We should ban everything that intimidates, humiliates, degrades any culture in SA.

      richard.bosmano - 2012-10-31 12:05

      Dunno about that , this zulu thing of 5 wives and 17 kids is a disgrace as well as the khosa abduct and rape a wife practice.Barbaric and primative regardless of how tolerant you try be

  • Dawn Campbell Gibson - 2012-10-31 12:00

    If they want to sing let them sing, surely we can play that lovely song which was played in KFC a little while back.

      steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-10-31 13:49

      Yup and look how excited they got about that!

  • brian.ocinneide.7 - 2012-10-31 12:16

    I suppose they are all agreed that it should be Shoot Zuma.

  • brian.ocinneide.7 - 2012-10-31 12:20

    I suppose that they have changed it to Shoot Zuma.

  • NigelJamesTurner - 2012-10-31 12:21

    Buried the hatchet..in each other's heads

  • lungelo.nsibande.7 - 2012-10-31 12:21

    History will never be compromised for a sake of oppressors! Our struggle song are part of our revolution. We need to be strong to defend our heritage as an organization. We can forgive but not forget. Unity must be interpreted along those line failing which our struggle inheritance will fall into the wrong hands. Dubuli-bhunu is one of our inheritance struggle songs, we will sing it even in Heaven.

      joe.farmer.92775 - 2012-10-31 12:30

      not to sure you understand the entrance criteria for Heaven

      robynne.els.1 - 2012-10-31 13:09

      We will never move forward while everyday we have to hear about the struggle! Most nations have had to fight for freedom at some point, the jews against the germans, the boers against the british and so on! Stop living in the past!

      Andrea - 2012-10-31 13:15

      And there you go, drooling crap again. The only struggle remaining is the one at the state coffers, but then again you wouldn't know what that is, especially since you probably don't pay any tax.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-31 13:22

      To both you idiots - what about the heritage of the Whites? Your party has made a mission of trying to wipe out our heritage since 1994. What exactly is your struggle inheritance? Did someone say you're going to inherit something after the struggle? Sorry, you were lied to.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-10-31 13:31

      Someone hand these two a tissue or a condom..

      brett.michielin - 2012-10-31 14:28

      Hahahaha pure intertainment Lungelo you have a great and vivid imagination. Remember this saying. Without you I am nothing and without me you are nothing. Last thing.... where you going to get the pilots?

      brett.michielin - 2012-10-31 14:28

      Hahahaha pure entertainment Lungelo you have a great and vivid imagination. Remember this saying. Without you I am nothing and without me you are nothing. Last thing.... where you going to get the pilots?

      lorain.maseko - 2012-10-31 15:30

      @ lungelo.nsibande.7 As much as the whites on this forum irk me i dont think your statement does anything towards making SA a better place.Personally I dont wanna shoot anyone for any reason,I feel the white South Africans that dont wanna be here should go already and the ones that wanna be here have as much right as any other person,regardless of how racist they are it doesnt change the fact that they are South African

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-01 11:23

      Lungelo.Nsibane.7. Most of you didn't even know the song until Malema sang it. Just show what a lot of followers you are incapable of thinking for yourself

  • Piero Alting - 2012-10-31 12:30

    Malema what a joke he is someone should shoot that curupt fool

  • Gill McCain - 2012-10-31 12:31

    "Little Black Sambo" and "Gollywogs" were part of my culture but we gave them up because some were offended by them. Time for others to give up their hurtful songs.

  • ahenriquesfernandes - 2012-10-31 12:34

    "In the news: More news to follow!" What a waste of space

      steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-10-31 13:56

      Malema and his fellow sheeple are a waste of space.

  • deon.louw.7505 - 2012-10-31 12:35

    I see our "tax dollars" at work again? I was wondering where the extra R20 million legal fees to Mr Zuma was going (To Tau, Agroforum, Sahapiro, Sunday Times and Rapport lawyers)?

  • karen.hartabrie - 2012-10-31 12:48

    @sanda: here are the words to the song de la rey - read it - MAYBE you will understand:- On a mountain in the night we lie in the darkness and wait In the mud and blood, I lie cold, grain bag and rain coat cling to me. And my house and my farm burned to ashes so that they could catch us But those flames and that fire burn now deep, deep within me. De la Rey, De la Rey, will you come to lead the Boers? De la Rey, De la Rey General, General, united we'll fall in around you General De la Rey And the Khakis (Brits) that laugh -- [just] a handful of us against their whole great might -- With the cliffs to our backs, they think it's all over [with us] But the heart of the Boer lies deeper and wider, that they'll still find [out] At a gallop he comes, the Lion of the West Transvaal De la Rey, De la Rey, will you come to lead the Boers? De la Rey, De la Rey General, General, united we'll fall in around you General De la Rey Because my wife and my child, lie in a Hell-camp* and perish And the Khakis' blood[marrow of life] ** is poured over a nation that will rise up again De la Rey, De la Rey, will you come to lead the Boers? De la Rey, De la Rey General, General, united we'll fall in around you General De la Rey De la Rey, De la Rey, will you come for the Boers?

      pdvermaak - 2012-11-01 04:09

      GOOSEBUMPS

      fanie.gerber1972 - 2012-11-01 07:08

      Thanks for this - it is ofcourse at its best in afrikaans with Bok van Blerks voice behind it

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-10-31 12:55

    This is a victory for Afriforum because the verdict still stands. If Julius Malema sings the song he will be committing a crime.

      steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-10-31 13:57

      And just who is going to enforce it. We don't know yet what agreement they came to.

  • lvhukeya1 - 2012-10-31 13:00

    Hope MALEMA will be envited to attend press confe nd given a chance to say something\ i miss him hey.

      maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-10-31 17:27

      ja like an eighth hole in the head

  • handy.andy.3990 - 2012-10-31 13:26

    The only reason Malema and Zuma are dropping these legal battles, is because they are both involved in other cases where they are trying to stay out of jail!

      steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-10-31 14:00

      Agreed Andy. Also, the only reason that Malema and Zipper have a head, is to keep their ears apart.

  • muke.matshaba - 2012-10-31 13:28

    What about banning umshini wam?I miss Malema hope some party take him in soon lol

  • Eterni80 - 2012-10-31 13:47

    I am struggling here....

  • louis.nolte.3 - 2012-10-31 14:05

    I thought of leaving the country, but since so many blacks can't stand having me here, I'm going to stay and irritate them by earning 6 times more than their average households. No matter what you do, you will never get rid of the true difference...

      xolanit.ntuli.9 - 2012-10-31 17:03

      I so wish most of black people read your article. Especially those that are sometime very critical of everything this government does. You make me love the current dispensation even more because now I can afford to give a good tip to white beggars and white car guards at malls and public parking

      bow.hunter.1884 - 2012-10-31 18:19

      Yeah thanks for the tip Xolani. I'll do the same with the eight black children that I normally give food to on a regular basis, and no black beggar or car guard will receive a cent from me any more. No more donations to our local black old age home either, and the rural school that asked my assistance to install running water for them can also forget it now. In fact, I think I'll show the school principal your comment her so that she can understand what brought about my change of attitide. Well done, mate!

      bow.hunter.1884 - 2012-10-31 18:26

      Xolani, I note that you are Xhosa. I live in Queenstown. If you were wondering, the old age home is Rowell old age home in Mlungisi, and the school is Vaalbank Primary near Tylden. Shall I send them to you at the Jo'burg Theatre for an explanation?

      michael.maluleke.14 - 2012-11-01 04:23

      Keep on earning so much , you are the target of thieves, am poor no worry.

  • peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-10-31 14:12

    "Former ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema" please can New24 reports stop refering to him as this!! He is just a normal citizen so just use his name. He was kicked out of the youth league it is over he is washed up and done!

      fanie.gerber1972 - 2012-11-01 07:09

      Agreed - it is stupid

  • peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-10-31 14:20

    Hahahahah I se this article has brought the Malema trolls out! The amount of stupid in some of the posts below is amazing. I am sure Malema settled because he is very scared now of going to jail where he belongs. Anyone who still thinks that he should be president must be part of South Africa that never made it to school. He is a thief and everything that comes out his mouth is a lie. Where is he now after all hispromises to miners?? Why is he not paying for families to attend the court hearing that he started?? I am sure he has lots of stolen money to help them out, oh wait......... he doesn't give a s^&t about anyone but himself! Useless fool, the fact that he has made it so far is an embarressment to South Africa!

  • ivan.goodman.77 - 2012-10-31 15:20

    Malema is the only man in the world that can get white peoples blood boiling, they just hear his name then its on the stress pills come out, blood pressure goes up.

  • Spearshaker@Inkandla - 2012-10-31 16:04

    Well, that was to be expected. Zuma is clearing his table of avoidable embarrassments as he prepares for Mangaung in December given that the 'Spy Tapes' - which are in his and his seemingly 'bribe-able' lawyer's possession (and illegally obtained) - have not been given to the DA as they were compelled to do in terms of an order of Court. This matter will test their collective wits to the utmost in Court.It is strange that the NPA faces contempt of Court under conditions where Zuma's lawyer, representing his client and is an officer of the court, refuses to release the tapes as ordered yet now the ANC whip in Parliament with the concurrence of the Speaker, censures & kicks Lekota out of parliament on a technicality which says that it was the NPA and not Zuma that was responsible to deliver the tapes to the NPA. Yet, if Zuma and his lawyer refuse to release the tapes to the NPA on spurious grounds, then of course, Zuma must be censured and impeached. Zuma as president of SA is under official oath to uphold and defend the Constitution which he quite clearly is unwilling to do because in doing so he would expose himself for what he IS! A corrupt and thieving president! (Note that I do not use a capital for 'president' because he does not deserve respect!) Zuma is a crook as is the majority on the ANC executive - and also the ministers appointed by Zuma - and this is despicable and he and they are therefore, despicable and unworthy of high office.

  • nondumiso.mahlangu.5 - 2012-10-31 16:29

    @godfrey.welman im not an ANC supporter but I wouldn't hold my breath on DA being the ruling party if I were you

  • craig.thom.376 - 2012-10-31 17:40

    Has somebody turned the light off fatman,I have not heard any noise for a few weeks now ?

  • malesela.ledwaba.984 - 2012-10-31 20:42

    Poor ANC,sell outs, Peter Mokaba 's legacy was sold for 20c. How can any organisation , a ruling party loose a battle like this, unless if the motive is to dispice Juju. What a good reason to be stupid.

  • diewitbaas.seplathand - 2012-10-31 22:14

    Hierdie dikgat Peddie moet gejag word, o nee wag, met n harpoen geskiet word. Klein snot!

  • melinda.botha.75 - 2012-11-01 09:12

    Be care the boer don't shoot back !!

      ubisse.dumisani - 2012-11-01 17:26

      U are right malinda we must be careful anythng can happen

  • machuene.jaqueline - 2012-11-01 10:12

    welele juju welele8-)

  • mark.politic - 2012-11-01 10:35

    Forget Afriforum - I think black people should be upset that Malema sang the song. If you sing songs of struggle and oppression you will tend to think as if you are struggling and oppressed. This is disempowering black people and make them believe their only hope is Malema. Help our people understand that they have freedom and that they have the freedom and responsibility to develop and educate themselves. It will take time but we need to place one brick on top of each other not sing that no-one will let us start building. Sing songs of freedom, opportunity and personal development.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-01 11:12

    The ANC should withdraw all together and go jump in a lake with their mouths open.

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