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'Shoot the boer' song banned

2010-03-26 17:33

Johannesburg - Singing "shoot the boer" is now illegal, the SABC reported on Friday.

The South Gauteng High Court has ruled that use of the words is unconstitutional and unlawful, the report said.

The ruling follows an urgent interdict by Delmas businessman Willem Harmse preventing his colleague Mahomed Vawda from using banners with the words and singing the song during a march against the high rate of crime in Mpumalanga and Gauteng on April 9.

Vawda argued that the words figuratively meant "kill apartheid" and wanted them chanted at the march.

Harmse argued the words perpetuated hate speech and incited hatred.

Comments
  • South African - 2010-03-26 17:48

    "Vawda argued that the words figuratively meant "kill apartheid" and wanted them chanted at the march."

    Apartheid is dead!! Long time, get over it and let us build this country! Forgiveness means forgetting, and before all of us dont forget the wrongs of the past, this country will NEVER go forward.

  • jannie - 2010-03-26 17:48

    what has "kill apartheid" to do with crime and WHY would you sing "kill the boer" ?? damn morons

  • MC - 2010-03-26 17:49

    I just wonder how our black brothers and sisters will feel when we take to the streets ans start chanting "kill the black man". I think there will be war.

  • David Burger - 2010-03-26 17:51

    Finally - we need to destroy racial antagonisms once and for all in our country. This sends all the right signals from our judicial system and moral code as a country.

  • mohammed piet tshabalalalala - 2010-03-26 17:53

    I'm opposed to censhorship so I'm not entirely thrilled about this ruling. However, considering that we live in a country of morons led by bigger morons, perhaps banning this song was the best decision. Time will tell...

  • Victory - 2010-03-26 17:54

    Finally some sanity prevails!

  • kneel - 2010-03-26 17:55

    Good riddance to bad rubbish. That song is hate speech and we need hate in this country like you need a hole in your head.

  • Theo Schoeman - 2010-03-26 17:55

    Long overdue. Mr Vawda, if you dont know the difference between kill apartheid and kill the Boer then I can only feel sorry for you.

  • James in germany - 2010-03-26 17:56

    Excellent!

  • VatSo - 2010-03-26 17:57

    And I hope the instruction to the cops will be "shoot the singers"....

  • Arthur Sea - 2010-03-26 17:58

    Does this mean the next time Malema sings it he can be arrested? I doubt any SAPS member would do that ...

  • South African - 2010-03-26 17:59

    It doesn't require a comment as only idiots and the mentally deranged would sing this sort of rubbish.

  • Chain Gun - 2010-03-26 18:00

    At Last!!!!
    It also always amazes me how some black people try and justify racism.

  • Ben - 2010-03-26 18:00

    Is this Vawda mad or what. How can you sing a song of this nature at a rally intended to protest against crime. A simple idiot would try this.

  • LekkerSing - 2010-03-26 18:00

    En wie gaan hulle bekke toedonner.....

  • Marc - 2010-03-26 18:01

    I'm not Afrikaaans. I'm not even white. But all I can say to this is: Sanity at last!!

  • carls - 2010-03-26 18:03

    Beautiful. Someone tell Julius to STFU.

  • Believe - 2010-03-26 18:03

    This changes nothing.
    The day we are all waiting for is near....

  • Romano - 2010-03-26 18:06

    It's about time!

  • Rian - 2010-03-26 18:08

    As someone who has lost a close family member in a senseless farm attack, I take my hat off to Mr Harmse for taking this issue to court, and to the honourable court for this decision. I have no doubt that words do kill - it is no coincidence that there was a spike in fatal farm attacks immediately following Mr Malema's singing of the song a few weeks ago. It is sad to see our elected leaders increasingly betray the example of Mr Mandela and the spirit of the Freedom Charter on which our Constitution is based - the very principles that Mr Malema alleges his parents fought for. What they (and the many who regularly resort to hate speech - in this forum and elsewhere) do not realise, is that we are all in this together. Black and White, Coloured and Asian. It is not too late.

  • terry owen - 2010-03-26 18:08

    About time too. I totally support Willem Harmse. It's like waving the old flag at rugby matches because "it's part of our heritage". Come on, Malema et al, move on! Or what really is your agenda? Apocalypse Now? Look up in Pedi dictionary if unsure.

  • Jerzy - 2010-03-26 18:09

    As much as a few will try and intellectualize the meaning behind singing a song such as this under our present context, the disillusioned masses won't share this common sentiment. It's a dangerous pretext for further violence in this country.

  • Great-full - 2010-03-26 18:10

    hahaha, can't believe this judgement didn't come earlier. justice 1 - racism 0

  • chris - 2010-03-26 18:11

    It is great to see that our Justice System is not influenced by "third forces".
    More respect for Judges as this is in the interest of a democratic Country on the foundation set by MADIBA!!!

  • Doorboot - 2010-03-26 18:13

    Ne...

  • Pothole - 2010-03-26 18:15

    Well done Willem. You have done more than the opposition parties. Where there is a will there is a way.

  • I expect - 2010-03-26 18:15

    The the High court ruling will be called racist now...sad that someone has to go to such extends to prove the blatantly obvious.

  • Yolande - 2010-03-26 18:18

    Finally someone with sense!!!!!

  • don't understand ??? - 2010-03-26 18:20

    If the words are being sung "kill apartheid" I don't think it would cause any problem. But how do they explain that the word BOER means APARTHEID? Figuratively or not - a boer is a farmer or referred to as an Afrikaner - NOT APARTHEID. If you want to sing that bloody song - take the "boer" part out and happily sing your song "kill apartheid" which is also the africanised version of Affirmative Action.

  • Spoon - 2010-03-26 18:21

    Wonder what the penalty will be for breaking this law? if murder gets you 15-25 years this will probably get you 15 minutes in the naughty corner.

  • Glen - 2010-03-26 18:21

    Let's see pathetic Julius' reaction to this one...if he survives the PAC assasination attempt. You have got to love this country.

  • Cracker - 2010-03-26 18:25

    ummm....wanted to use the song during a march against high rate of crime? well alrighty, that surely doesn't make sense!

  • morne - 2010-03-26 18:27

    viva! Harmse killed Ju Ju

  • Piet - 2010-03-26 18:28

    sanity prevails, viva!

  • Mark - 2010-03-26 18:31

    I wonder why in ANC politics is it always preferable to chant a mantra containing the words "Kill bsomeone or for someone". WHy not just say kill apartheid - we all know what you mean and no one is offended.

  • martinm - 2010-03-26 18:31

    Dear Mr. Harmse, Thank You! Although I cannot offer much I would like to make a contribution to your legal costs. Please respond to this comment with your email address so I may contact you. Again my thanks and I am sure, you have the appreciation of many, many proud South Africans. Martin

  • Leonard John - 2010-03-26 18:32

    Tog net jammer dis 15 jaar laat om dit te verban, nadat 3000 onskuldige mense vermoor is deur hierdie soort lafhartige gemors. God dank iemand het uiteindelik wakker geskrik. Doen ons nou almal in die land n GROOT guns en verwyder die gemors uit die publieke oog wat heeltyd besig is met die soort haatspraak. Dit sal die land baie verbeter.

  • Vic - 2010-03-26 18:35

    I've lost the plot. Ban this song from rallies where they stir up trouble, not when you are fighting against it.How colleagues could be involved in this between them I do not understand.

  • WetSprocket - 2010-03-26 18:35

    That it needs a court of law to arrive at this conclusion is proof indeed that South Africa has gone mad.

  • Aitog - 2010-03-26 18:40

    Jussus

  • Muslim - 2010-03-26 18:42

    its about TIME..!by the way "Mohamed" vawda promotes that SICK slogan of "kill the boer " for his own agenda.As a MUSLIM i congratulate Willem Harmse for persuing an interdict.All we need now is for Malema to open his BIG MOUTH and DEFY the JUDGE and the BAN and let the world know we are a Zimbabwe repeat.Watch this space!!!

  • Burtfred - 2010-03-26 18:45

    Out of common decency and respect for our compatriots, thinking people no long talk of "golliwogs", or play eeny-meeny mini mo, catch a nigger by the toe.
    Anyone such as Julius Malema, Mohammed Vawda or Gwede Mantashe who attempt to justify using the "Kill the Boer" call to arms by quoting culture or history, are not worthy of respect from decent people.
    They are living in their own little tormented
    racist dungeon.
    Get a life chaps, lets move on now.

  • jon - 2010-03-26 18:51

    So k*ffir also meant something during the apartheid era just like "kill the boer". Does that mean the ANC will respect that too for the people who wish to reflect back on the Apartheid days in their own particular way. It's just a phrase so I take it the ANC won't have a problem with it.

  • Adriana Stuijt - 2010-03-26 18:52

    This is a sad day - when the Afrikaners have to go to a court of law to stop the ruling party officials calling for their mass annihilation. I congratulate Mr Harmse for his action. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech and everything with the kind of massive hate-speech which leads to full-scale genocide as seen in the rest of Africa. I congratulate the Judicial System for still being in place to protect the human rights of one of the world's most visible and vulnerable minorities.

  • Margs - 2010-03-26 18:52

    Apartheid is dead anyway,so no need to mention it in any song.Racism is still around,from all sides of the spectrum,but apartheid is history, thank goodness.

  • ZUMA SILENCE - 2010-03-26 18:53

    Why is Zuma so quiet?????

  • tamlyn - 2010-03-26 18:59

    Illiteracy breeds things who will say whatever to stir up crap, as they are not taught the consequences of their actions/words. go to school people and learn to be civilised. You may survive amongst those of your calibre, but throw you to the real world and you will not last a day.

  • Angel - 2010-03-26 19:00

    Hopefully this is the end of big mouth Malema, that is if he survives the PAC youth league. really a joke

    Thoughts become things... choose the good ones! Let us all think on the good for SA, we all need this!

  • No Justice - 2010-03-26 19:02

    This won't stop them, it's not even a stone in the road for them. Their killing farmers and others is their quiet way of wiping out any and every opposition , so they may turn Sa into Zim 2!

  • mark - 2010-03-26 19:03

    i hope malema gets thia message.
    I think it is still the 'BOER' who provides food for this country