Siblings die in blaze tragedy

2012-06-05 08:55

Johannesburg - Three children from Randfontein burnt to death on Sunday night after their house caught fire and a local fire engine did not have enough water to extinguish the blaze, it was reported on Tuesday.

The Beeld reported that Salome Jordaan, 11, Tanya Jordaan, 4, and Armand Jordaan, 3, died in the blaze, and their 14-year-old sister Adri, was seriously injured.

Kallie Hoffman, who lived in an outbuilding on the property, told the newspaper that emergency services took an hour to arrive at the scene.

Franz Olckers, a family friend, said they left after a few minutes to go and get more water at a local shopping centre.

The fire brigade returned half an hour later, but the house had burned down.

"Apart from the fact that the fire engine did not have enough water, it looked to me as if their pipes were full of holes - water was squirting through the sides of the pipes like fountains," he said.

Neighbours said the Randfontein municipality had removed the family's fuse box around two weeks ago, and that they had been using candles, one of which had presumably fallen over and caused the blaze.

  • Henri - 2012-06-05 09:00

    Well done to all the party`s involved, enjoy ur nightmares for the rest of your lives, this is dispicleble, you call yourselves Humans????

      JohhnyBGood - 2012-06-05 09:34

      My heart bleeds for this family. This country is wrong in so many ways... RIP...I hope the other child makes a speedy recovery. Shame

      sabongam - 2012-06-05 10:01

      What kind of country do we live in if things like this happen...No, stupid question let me answer that...A country full of corrupt and useless government officials who only care about lining their own already fat pockets, that's what...By the way don't the people who work at the Fire Dept. check their equipment(quality control) let alone make sure that they have enough water in their tanks? Next we're going to hear of police going to crime scenes with armed robbers, without bullets or malfunctioning fire arms...K*k man, with a competent and incorruptable administration this could easily have been avoided. RIP Salome,Tanya and Armand and condolences to the Jordaan family.

  • Koos - 2012-06-05 09:00

    Terrible. RIP little ones.

  • Curry - 2012-06-05 09:01

    RIP little ones. Billions wasted on crap and lost to corruption and nothing left over to maintain basic lifesaving emergency services. What a sad shame.

  • Christopher - 2012-06-05 09:02

    anc for you...service delivery at its best!

  • Yandisa - 2012-06-05 09:02

    so sad.

  • mukosit - 2012-06-05 09:03

    Painful indeed. May their souls rest in peace.

  • Neil - 2012-06-05 09:04

    This is what heppens when you leave incompetent fools in charge of critical services. I can just imagine what the poor children were thinking when they burnt to death.

  • rob.patrick.94 - 2012-06-05 09:05

    Where were the parents? And yes you do expect the hoses to be full of holes as nothing ever gets maintained or repaired. Dont the vehicles have to be at the ready at all times and full of water? Maybe not with all this thieving going on what do you expect!!

      Michaele - 2012-06-05 10:15

      They probably sell the water in areas where there is no service delivery!!

      Megan - 2012-06-05 10:47

      Fire engines don't routinely carry water to house fires... The REAL question is: WHY WERE THERE NO HYDRANTS INSTALLED in the street??? Usually with bush fires, seperate water tanks are dispatched as you're not going to find a hydrant in the middle of an open veld...

      Lacrimose - 2012-06-13 22:28

      @Sargon - my micro exploded one night, set fire to kitchen then the roof. My pets woke me up. My whole way out blocked by security bars. Obviously, I got out but was most terrifying exp of my life, crawling thru fire wrapped in a wet towel. I knew what to do, had fire alert on my armed response. Lucky. Every time now I read a fire story, I feel for those people be because ja, raped/robbed/burned plus the insurance industry yanks up your rates if you don't have death-trap burglar guards, security gates.

  • nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-06-05 09:06

    Shocking, & we pay tax for this pathetic municipal service

      Koos - 2012-06-05 16:08

      You have no idea how shocking and pathetic it really is. You guys just see the crust.

  • Rubika - 2012-06-05 09:40

    OMW! this is just too horrible.RIP little ones

  • Mark - 2012-06-05 09:47

    This is tragic on more than one level. So many million rands of municipal funds being lost on unnecessary name changes, thieving goverment officials,tenders, huge bonuses for incompetant minicipal bosses and yet not enough money to maintain essential emergency equipment. Zoolie, i'm sure the partys involved will get over this quickly. They dont have any heart left for humanity any more.

  • Sam Iam - 2012-06-05 09:51

    I am so sorry. Words cannot describe your pain

  • Carla - 2012-06-05 09:51

    What a horrible way to die! Those poor children. RIP Seeing as the fire deparment charges for the call out, then surely the parents should be allowed to sue for incompetence and negligence?

  • Shaun - 2012-06-05 09:52

    The municipal officials in charge of the service and the station commander should face criminal charges and be dismissed from their posts. RIP little ones

      Koos - 2012-06-05 09:55

      Not in our lifetime.

  • WitWolf - 2012-06-05 09:54

    May the Lord be with that family. Yet another example of a poorly run government. When will the anc wake up?

  • yzager - 2012-06-05 09:55

    I've seen this first hand, a unit in my complex in Northriding burnt down recently, took the fire department 30 minutes to get there from up the road, when they arrived it took them another 30 minutes to setup and to start putting out the smoke (yes, the whole house burnt down in front of eyes and was completely savable). The emergincy services in this country are pathetic.... Lives are being lost, this is tragic.... Poor children.... This country is in ruin

      Hettie - 2012-06-05 10:22

      I Have no words to describe what I am feeling right now. This should not happen to anybody. Just another example of how we are going to pieces and all the gov.. of the day are worried about is nationalising banks and mines and everything that is still in a working condition. My heart go out to the family. We pray for the other little one

  • aiyo.sami - 2012-06-05 10:13

    My only thought is while you have idiots like the Housing MEC setting up spy cams and bugging offices to catch whistle blowers, you have a fire engine with not enough water... WTF...!!! Rest in peace little ones and I am certain with the way the country is going you are better off right now... Strength to your family...

  • senseimodise - 2012-06-05 10:32

    This is sad...condolences to the family.. what I don't get is don't the emergency services do a drill and always check their equipment on scheduled times, cause if they don't then South Africa is in big trouble..

  • NoNonsense - 2012-06-05 10:44

    My heart goes out to the mom and dad. RIP little kiddies. I hope and Pray that I never have to make use of our Emergency services. They have let these children down!

  • Carol - 2012-06-05 10:45

    My father was the Deputy-Chief of the PMB Fire Department, years ago. I lived in the fire station for the first 15 years of my life. When the fire bells rang at the station, the firemen had 3 minutes to be in their gear and out on the way to the fire. My dad had many a time held injured and dying in his arms. This work is an absolute calling for those who really care about other lives and want to make a difference. The fire engines were checked all the time, water tanks full, petrol tanks full, all equipment and fire hoses checked and in perfect working order and condition. The municipality never hesitated on financing, as this service delivery was at the forefront of protecting the citizens that it was serving. I was always used to be very proud of being associated with this profession. Now I cry, for that which should still be, but is no more. To the Jordaan Family, I send all my condolences. A very sad moment indeed.

  • Glenda Mfolo Mncwabe - 2012-06-05 10:46

    ppl stop blaming anc for what happened we need to look @ da underlying cause the carelessness of da parent by leaving da burning candle the whole night at the children room yes it painfull what happened to that family but stop the blame.

      tarisharamcherita.naidoo - 2012-06-05 10:59

      Are you serious? The situation could have been salvaged if only the services we all as tax payers pay for and expect to receive- had been in place.... fire engen should have water! Who ultimately is running this country the ANC so going down the chain as to why the equipment was checked and in correct working order is another example of ppl not following procedure.... its starts rite up at the top and trickles all the way down... This is the quality of service we receive from all Goverment ammenities....

      Gerald - 2012-06-05 11:14

      You are a complete moron. They are guessing that a candle fell over but that has not been proved. Also you say STOP THE BLAME. what are you doing regarding the parents. YOU ARE BLAMING THEM. You must realise that even though carelessness might have caused the fire Your Government's USELESSNESS caused the deaths of three children

      Pennie - 2012-06-05 13:35

      Since when has "the" become "da"?

      Megan - 2012-06-05 15:58

      Didn't the ANC promise free electricity to all? I'm fairly certain I remember hearing a promise to that effect... So, if the ANC had kept their promise in the first place, this family's electricity supply would not have been cut off, and candles would not have had to be used in order to provide light... Isn't it the ANC who are currently responsible for the funding of emergency services? ANd correct me if I'm wrong, but was it not the ANC who stole billions resulting in this rather sad tragedy?

  • Mike Purchase - 2012-06-05 10:50

    Are these okes not able to manage a simple thing like a fire engine?

  • eyesears.handsfeet - 2012-06-05 10:51

    The children are safe now. No more pain and suffering. RIP little ones. You will always be in someone's heart.

      Koos - 2012-06-05 16:12

      I was thinking the exact same thing. Given the circumstances I think it would be extremely sad but fair to say they are better off now. If their parents could not even afford to keep the lights on, what would the future have held for them?

  • Glenda Mfolo Mncwabe - 2012-06-05 11:44

    gerald u r government urself,and yes i say stop blaming if u knew the story,and what r u doing urself to help them?u read the newspaper u dont know what happened i stay in that area i was also a victim of electricity cut and i went to the municipal offices to negotiate with them,i used the candle the whole week but i was careful because i know the danger of it can cause.

      tarisharamcherita.naidoo - 2012-06-05 13:47

      Oh well since we dont live in the areas where an incident happens we wont share our opinion ( this site is worthless then) and i think we should all stop reading the news cos you say we read the newspaper but we dont know what happened, so you mean the newspaper reported on something that didnt happen... LOL you so funny, i guess you must be right cos you live in the area and you are so carefull with your candle... its called an accident for a reason!

      Debbie - 2012-06-06 20:05

      Yes Glenda, there does appear to be an element of carelessness (yet to be proved) but one can't help thinking that if the fire brigade had arrived on time and been properly prepared, maybe, just maybe their lives could have been saved, regardless of whose fault it was.

  • marna.coetzeegrobler - 2012-06-06 18:01

    The other child also passed away, how sad it brings tears to my eyes. And to think the people responsible (anc) won't even blink an eye

  • Debbie - 2012-06-06 19:59

    My heart goes out to those poor children who must have suffered terribly. I hope the 14 year old girl pulls through. I have to ask a question...where were the parents and why couldn't the children get out of the house? Were they locked in? Were they sleeping and overcome by fumes? I know it seems a bit insensitive to ask such questions at this time, but they must be asked.

  • grant.stewart.581 - 2012-06-13 21:41

    Firstly, I truly feel for this family. As an ex-firemen, Fire Engines carry water when going to house fires, or, they should. Unfortunately, no vehicle carry enough water to distinguish a structure of this magnitude. Obviously there are a lot of open spaces to be filled in this mistery, such as were there any hydrants in the vacinity, and how far the house is from the Fire Department. Fire Engines cannot travel at great speeds due to weight and size etc. The operational staff are generally blamed for delays etc., remember that calls go via control centres, where most delays take place. Yes, I agree, believe me, that there is a lot of questions that can be asked pertaining to this matter and so many others. Lack of funding, lack of training, lack of quality of service, lack of passion, lack of professionalism, lack of quality and quantity of equipment, lack of discipline etc...the list goes on and on. Lets just pray that everyone involved in this incident manages to cope with what has happened, including family, friends and firemen.

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