Skirmishes at ANCYL lecture

2012-10-13 17:39

Bronkhorstspruit - Threats of violence were exchanged among members of the ANC who gathered at the Ekangala Community Hall, in Bronkhorstspruit east of Pretoria on Saturday.

Community members wearing T-shirts emblazoned with the faces of different ANC leaders streamed to the hall for a scheduled ANC Youth League's economic freedom lecture.

As hours went on, without any leader taking to the podium, a member of the Umkontho weSizwe veterans, Obbey Mabena addressed the divided crowd.

“We are all members of the ANC here and we need to treat each other with respect. This division is not healthy for the party,” he said to applause from the factions.

Most of the people wore white, red and yellow T-shirts bearing the face of President Jacob Zuma. Some of the T-shirts were written: "GP for JZ".

Another section of the crowd wore T-shirts with faces of ANC Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe and Sports Minister Fikile Mbalula.

Motlanthe is the ANCYL's choice for the position of African National Congress president and ANC national executive committee member Tokyo Sexwale or ANC treasurer Mathews Phosa for deputy president.

Its candidate for ANC secretary-general is Mbalula, who is a former ANCYL leader.

Waiting for hours

The community was expecting ANC Youth League deputy president Ronald Lamola, accompanied by Sexwale to address them at the event.

After singing and dancing in the large hall for hours, waiting, a man who said he worked in Lamola’s office told the crowd to disperse.

He said both Lamola and Sexwale would not attend the event due to other commitments.

As the factions sang and danced outside the large hall, some members picked up heavy pieces of wood, threatening members of the rival groups.

Some irate, plank wielding members of the factions interrupted whilst SABC journalists were interviewing Mabena.

Scores of men danced, singing: "Showerman warisogodisa [is troubling us]" whilst a another faction nearby sang Zuma’s signature tune, "Umshini wami".

Mabena said he had volunteered to address the crowd, knowing that "troublesome elements were hijacking events".

Divisions advocated

"The subject of economic freedom is pertinent in our society. I am worried because at these events nothing [of that subject] is discussed, except advocating the divisions between camps of Zuma and Motlanthe," he said.

"Unfortunately, what the ANC stands for has been hijacked by people who do not care about the party. They are interested in what they can take out of having a powerful position," said Mabena.

He said with the deep entrenched divisions, the ANC did not need an elective conference but "a crisis resolution summit".
As the crowds dispersed, a police van arrived at the venue.

Some people continued to sing songs supporting their preferred candidates at the elective conference scheduled for Mangaung in December.

  • Jacques - 2012-10-13 17:44

    Like the lemurs quarrelling with the chimps over who gets the ripe bananas in the zoo...

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-13 19:58

      Like the Chimps Part

      Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-10-28 21:49

      More like black pigs, but not just flying they seem to be SWARMING across SA sky's these days.

  • Charles Frederik Robberts - 2012-10-13 18:01

    Dont you just love it? ha ha!

  • dale.simmons.7921 - 2012-10-13 18:03

    Rush in an emergency supply of liquor and guns!

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-13 19:40

      And food from White Farmers...

  • Don.Tandy - 2012-10-13 18:13

    Wouldn't expect anything different when the ancyl is involved.

  • jeremy.forbes.1293 - 2012-10-13 18:14

    There maybe some good in all of this frightening situation. It could be the beginning of the breaking up of the ANC. Our only hope is a government of national unity including the good ANC people like Ms Madonsela,Trevor Manual and others together with DA and Cope people. It may be the only way forward to a secure future.

  • lhensby - 2012-10-13 18:19

    The ANC fat cats where probably having lunch and blue label viva economic freedom farters!

      ingwani.sithole - 2012-10-13 18:24


      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-13 19:41

      And the lunch was from white farmers...

  • ernest.lwandle - 2012-10-13 18:19

    this is the best opoturnity ever for opposition parties if they lose this one this beutifull country will never know peace.Let us unite all of us just only for the benefit of our kids against this evil ANC vampire.Let us all show them that even us we are the sons and daughters of this beautifull country black and white and we will never run away.let them fight again

  • sphala - 2012-10-13 18:24

    Order Comrade....Order!

      JamesMWood - 2012-10-13 18:47

      Eh, can I get eh one eh stretwis 2

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-13 19:42

      Nothing wrong with KFC Fixes my constipation..

      sphala - 2012-10-13 20:18 not laughing at you guys @ James and Paul but KfC, surely you like it cause you also stand a queue with them, how do you guys know?

      sphala - 2012-10-13 20:25

      Thumb up Cdr thumb up....@Segol.5

  • neilpretorius83 - 2012-10-13 18:29

    What is it with these people and their obsession with shirts bearing politicians' faces? I've never worn a propaganda t-shirt and guess what - it feels GOOD!

  • SharonE - 2012-10-13 18:33

    "He said both Lamola and Sexwale would not attend the event due to other commitments." They were too busy, and couldn't even spare the time to let the organisers know they weren't coming? Small wonder the people there were miffed, nobody wants to be treated like an insignificant nobody. What is it, does the ANC not need the youths' votes in 2014?

      ingwani.sithole - 2012-10-13 18:38

      It does Sharon.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-13 19:54

      Exactly Sharon If you say you are going to be there.Then be there. If you say you are going to fix Water and sanitation Then do it. Pity Mandela couldnt serve another term. Chances are he would have been able to achieve more.

  • lex.holmes2 - 2012-10-13 18:38

    What a circus!

  • ingwani.sithole - 2012-10-13 18:39

    We can fight now but when the enemy comes we unity, viva Ancyl viva.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-13 18:56

      @Sganja ~ What a d00s.

      ingwani.sithole - 2012-10-13 19:02

      it's a mistake formandzen @Irene what are you trying to say?

      ernest.lwandle - 2012-10-13 19:12

      Sganja what about new name Stik suites you ne

      ingwani.sithole - 2012-10-13 19:16

      Uthini wena Ernest?Mbongolo

      BulletProof. - 2012-10-13 19:26

      You are a looser,troll!!!!

      ernest.lwandle - 2012-10-13 19:26

      ndithi iganja is the holly herb and it gives good inspiration especially when it comes to tough debates and wena ndoda uyi opposite

      hudayfah.newman - 2012-10-13 19:27

      Lol I can just imagine your banner at the march:\We Are Unity Against The Enemy\

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-13 19:57

      You and your low voltage short circuited Cranium are the enemy..

      ernest.lwandle - 2012-10-13 20:48

      ndiyakuva mfo ka sganja kodwa ke abelungu abafani bakhona aba right bakho aba wrongo nje ngathi thina bantu

  • ernest.lwandle - 2012-10-13 18:40

    S.A alive with possibilities sit down and watch

  • nicolas.gombert.16 - 2012-10-13 18:43

    Economic freedom = TENDERS!!!

  • david.diale.75 - 2012-10-13 18:43

    school wait comrades,school wait.

  • JamesMWood - 2012-10-13 18:44

    Well I guess that's just par for the course when it comes to these twats

  • gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-13 18:49

    There's no difference between the feuding popeyes at these gatherings and the rest of the animated bunch of misfits at the top!! This is the ANC, this is South Africa. Look what they doing??

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-10-13 18:49

    Moer mekaar!

  • tony.ezendam - 2012-10-13 18:56

    These guys couldn't organise a pissup in the proverbial brewery.

  • nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-10-13 18:56

    What an unruly lot. LOL

  • ernest.lwandle - 2012-10-13 18:59

    any one remember the song CHAIN OF FOOL by aretha

  • ignatius.makhura - 2012-10-13 19:15

    Thier those members who a in a dream world and thier members who a in a real world,those who a in a dream world think things will solve its self after the mangaung and those who a in a real wolrd will elect someone whom they know they will benefit by him after this circus with tenders,high position etc

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-10-13 19:18

    This shows the respect they have for their followers, also shows just how pathetic the followers are. This is a party on its way out. The sooner the better

  • marius.vanrooyen.37 - 2012-10-13 19:47

    The reason why the education system in this country is the worst in the world is all part of the ANC's great plan. Keep the voters uneducated, and you will stay in power FOREVER!

  • arnold.niemand.5 - 2012-10-13 20:04

    I would love a transcript of this economic freedom lecture.

  • Brian Dorning - 2012-10-13 20:30

    What do they mean by economic freedom? ANC has been taking freely from our economy for a while now!

  • tiaan.vanderberg.75 - 2012-10-13 21:12

    Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. The best argument against democracy is to have a 5 minute discussion with the average voter. ~ Churchill

  • ernest.lwandle - 2012-10-13 21:37

    WHAT do u call an ANC member without eyes /mouth/ears A TRUSTWORTHY

  • bongane.zwane.948 - 2012-10-14 00:07

    end off ANC.

  • jacqui.c.baumgardt - 2012-10-14 05:34


  • marius.vanrooyen.37 - 2012-10-14 06:29

    Why do ANC supporters see the country being raped and luted, yet they refuse to vote DA. Does the ANCYL really think "economic freedom" is when you take all the assets in the country and divide it equally between all citizens? Will this solve poverty? There once was a story about a hen that laid golden eggs.....

  • john.smit.121772 - 2012-10-14 10:50

    Daas hy, bliksem mekaar!

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-10-14 16:33

    When the youth of the ANC start referring to their leader as 'showerman' ,then it should become a matter of concern.

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