Soldiers kept under lock and key

2012-11-30 10:46

Johannesburg - Large-scale desertions at the army headquarters in Pretoria during the working day have resulted in drastic action - employees are locked in to prevent them from leaving the premises, Beeld reported on Friday.

The rule came into effect this week, and will be enforced as long as the authorities feel it is necessary to drum into soldiers that official working hours have to be taken seriously.

According to the army there is nothing controversial about the rule, and that it was definitely time to crack the whip.

The new regulation followed increasing complaints of nobody being in the office on especially Wednesday and Friday afternoons.

Employees have reportedly been abusing a long-standing rule in the army that allows soldiers who officially practice sport to leave with a "sport pass".

Most of the people who leave on a Wednesday afternoon do not take part in any kind of sport, it was established.

The three building exits are being locked in the morning and reopened at 16:00.

At 16:00, Beeld reported, there is a frantic stampede to get to the gate first, to avoid the long queue at the exit, where employees are delayed while guards search each car to combat theft of government property.

  • nikondaniel - 2012-11-30 10:50

    Our Defence Force collapsed completely. Thanks to the ANC. What happened to the discipline we had back in the day?!?!?

      nikondaniel - 2012-11-30 11:25

      whoever gave me thumbsdown must be on AWOL, haha

      scouter.fourone - 2012-11-30 11:29

      Should be interesting to see what would happen in the event of a fire - then again, I don't particularly care .......

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2012-11-30 12:35

      Or in event of a war. The enemy would simply overrun us, because we are on AWOL

      lsfreak - 2012-11-30 13:29

      Sorry Meneer, but this one has nothing to do with the cANCer. It's gotta do with all the rubbish that's taken in cause it's now a working holiday. There is no way to discipline the members cause they all belong to Unions and will strike... WTF

  • kala.bafazi - 2012-11-30 10:54

    In my day desertion meant time in DB. It didn't matter if it was for one hour or one week. Don't lock them in, lock them away!!! They are getting paid for doing nothing.

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-11-30 11:01

      If you do that, the unions will start throwing their toys out of the cot. And the Army top brass will quiver with fear.

      Blackpoison - 2012-11-30 11:02

      I don't think there even is a DB anymore.

      sean.noble1 - 2012-11-30 12:20

      Exactly but a detention barracks is racist didn't you know?

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2012-11-30 12:36

      How can an army have a union in the first place? We have really become the laughing stock of the world.

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-11-30 10:58

    As an old soldier it is shocking, although not altogether surprising to read this. There is no discipline in the entire government employment sector because the supervisors themselves are not disciplined and have NO work ethics. I suggest they have two entrances to each and every workplace at government institutions. This will prevent congestions between those coming to work late and those leaving early!

      Donkervlie - 2012-11-30 11:11

      Yes these are the people who claimed in 1994 that they can run the country better than anybody else. When will these people understand dishonesty is not a talent. Sis Man you know what rubbish is rubbish.

  • john.turner.58760608 - 2012-11-30 10:59

    The Salvation Army is a better military formation than the SANDF. What a joke! Want to visit your friend in Botswana, borrow a plane. The uniform is boring, it looks a lot nicer with these cute pink slippers.

      peter.gugelmin - 2012-11-30 11:03

      please don't insult the Salvation Army by even attempting a comparison

  • Donkervlie - 2012-11-30 11:07

    In the old days we did not do these dishonest things. But then aparthied was a funny system it caused people to behave correctly .

      alwyn.vantonder - 2012-11-30 12:20

      We still have apartheid.. it's just the other way around..

      rainer.jad - 2012-11-30 19:16

      The only thing that was supressed under apartheid was TKB...

  • Suzanne Viljoen - 2012-11-30 11:12

    That's why they can't be deployed anywhere. Imagine helping farmers! they'll loot and run off to shop and maybe also murder people

  • gordon.turner.37 - 2012-11-30 11:15

    We have a ratio of officers to troops that is nearly 5 times the global average. Overpaid, under skilled jobs for pals.

  • gary.desousa.1 - 2012-11-30 11:19

    There was never a sports friday. The articule relates to the office workers at military hq so once again it shows no proper management of people. Im sure its the same on the armed forces, no id parade, no drills, no training ,no money ,no dicipline im sure But its a wonderful source of votes, no work and paid.

  • wimpy.vanderwesthuizen - 2012-11-30 11:23

    viva anc viva joke

  • brolloks.enbittergal - 2012-11-30 11:27

    Implosion: Bursting inwards (Oxford Dictionary 7th Edition)

  • aspruyt - 2012-11-30 11:33


  • thaluki.malema - 2012-11-30 11:35

    The degrading of one of the best Defence forces in the world before the ANC took over is just more proof of their absolute incompetence to govern.

      Gavin Cahill - 2012-11-30 12:05

      Where has all the discipline gone? Into the hell hole where it came from! The current NSADF couldn't muster a platoon to engage anyone if you gave them months to prepare! Disgusting!! A union in the army? What crap!!!!

  • obadia.segwape - 2012-11-30 11:35

    water enterrng the house from all angle VIVA ANC VIVA AGH SIES MAN WE ARE DOOMED

  • gregory.hill.984 - 2012-11-30 11:36

    Lol and now a frantic rush to avoid the long wait while cars are searched for stolen property....... Need I say more our warriors are thieves

  • myfriendshane - 2012-11-30 11:37

    Check that slapgat troep !! BE paraat for 4 sakes.

  • tommy.jones.754918 - 2012-11-30 11:38

    *shakes head...speechless.

  • erich.goosen - 2012-11-30 11:39

    If it wasn't so tragic, it could have been amusing. Just picture hordes of obese soldiers scramming to their vehicles at 16h00 to get a quick exit (it reminds me in the days of the Grand Prix races where the drivers had to run from a central point to the racing cars and then start the race with screaming tyres). This practice makes the compulsory sports pass on Wednesdays redundant. How are we going to transform an unproduductive army of kleptomaniacs into a well-disciplined fighting machine?

  • horst.muller.7330 - 2012-11-30 11:43

    And Helen wants to call in this army to protect the Western Cape. I can't see anything good coming out of that.

      brendan.healey.315 - 2012-11-30 12:18

      I agree, the Western Cape should create the WCDF !

      Suzanne Viljoen - 2012-11-30 12:40

      @brendan.healey. Yes that would be wonderful if WC had their own DF

  • bertus.leroux.14 - 2012-11-30 11:53

    When you take a look at the picture you will notice that there is absolutely no orderly symmetry in the way they are holding their weapons and no pride in the way they stand on parade.

  • neil.cuthbert.9 - 2012-11-30 11:54

    What happened to AWOP, no discipline there either, we are doom ed.

  • - 2012-11-30 11:57

    Discipline - where has it gone? I think the army was better when the whitey's were being conscripted. Think the ANC will bring that back?

  • ardenharvey - 2012-11-30 12:02

    just another example of how the cANCer suck the life and pride out of any institution...

  • michael.i.wright - 2012-11-30 12:04

    So, if the Cape were to get fed up and decide to secede? I bet dragging ten thousand old guys who were in pre-94 would be sufficient to get it right.

  • lenox.ntlantsana - 2012-11-30 12:04

    Mmmmmmmmmh! Very good move up there. Operation Bulldozer and Phakamisa only allows certain members to leave the premises while others work. LNN

  • Lana Van Der Berg - 2012-11-30 12:13

    People shouldn't judge or generalize, there are still some people that follow the rules and take pride in what they do!

  • brendan.healey.315 - 2012-11-30 12:22

    I don't think they know the meaning of AWOL or DB these days. My ol RSM would be taking great pleasure in giving these dropouts some good opf.k. Then again so would I :-)

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  • lee.brand.73 - 2012-11-30 12:42

    What a joke. We all better pray that Bob doesn't attack us - battle hardened troops from the DRC... Our New SANDF will wet their pants and go home. The Wednesday afternoon thing was there in 83 and before. It was managed correctly - and most of the guys actually did sport!

  • illse.nieuwoudt - 2012-11-30 13:50

    I think this is a very good plan from the Army. This is at least a step in the right direction to take some disiplinary action. Very sad that it's necessary though

  • altus.kirsten - 2012-11-30 13:58

    If the army has no discipline, then where have all the leader gone? Flushed down the toilet by an incompetent ANC government.

  • Strikeback - 2012-12-01 14:36

    If this was not so sad, it would be my favourite report of the year. It is a disgrace when your highest disciplinary institution has to be controlled like sheep.

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