Spear case makes international news

2012-05-25 11:19

Johannesburg - Developments surrounding Brett Murray's painting The Spear depicting President Jacob Zuma made it into the international media, including The UK Guardian and the Huffington Post's websites, on Friday.

"The ANC, which in the past has been criticised for remaining silent in the face of corruption, its own people dying from Aids, and human rights violations in Zimbabwe, whipped up opposition to The Spear, putting a logo on its website homepage that says: 'President Zuma has a right to human dignity and privacy'," according to The Guardian.

"The Spear saga has pushed all the buttons that inflame emotions and headlines in South Africa's national discourse," it reads.

Big Think asked: "Could someone die over this painting?

"Art isn’t usually a life or death matter, but the controversy over South African artist Brett Murray’s The Spear might end in bloodshed," the story went.

The Huffington Post described advocate Gcina Malindi's breakdown in the South Gauteng High Court, as he defended Zuma and the ANC's argument that images of the painting should be banned.

Not to be a cut-and-dried case

"Malindi, who is black, said that many blacks still lived in poverty after the end of apartheid in 1994. He then sobbed. His colleagues rushed to put their arms around his shoulders," reads their report from the Associated Press.

"The painting has pitched culture and tradition against constitutional rights. It has polarised a nation..." reads an article on

Describing the protesting crowd outside the court, the packed courtroom, Malindi's breakdown, and the postponement to a date to be decided, their reporter wrote: "It was not to be a cut-and-dried case."

The Al Jazeera website told the story mostly through posts of other people's tweets from inside and outside the court on Thursday.

The Times of India reported on the defacing of the painting, eliciting some comments from readers, including Siddiharth Pathak of Allahabad, who said: "People cross their line in the garb of freedom of expression".

"Vamsi" of India, posted this comment: "If they don't like the painting, they should protest, but destroying the art is not correct."

The Herald in Zimbabwe, The Times of Swaziland and The Namibian had not posted on Thursday's developments by early Friday.

  • Rvn - 2012-05-25 11:24

    Why does rubbish like this appear in international news? What about the real problems in South Africa?

      Kala - 2012-05-25 11:30

      It must be really quiet on the world news front.

      Charles-Bronson - 2012-05-25 11:33

      All the people in the world will see the RACIST ANC corrupt useless jokers!! Well done ANC another sad day for SA.

      Squeegee - 2012-05-25 11:34

      The ANC has once again become an international embarrassment. If Zipper Zuma had laughed it off none of this would have happened. What is he going to do when "Draw the President Day" becomes popular?

      Adele - 2012-05-25 11:39

      Aren't we as South African's just beaming with pride? *rolls eyes*

      Rabble-Rouser - 2012-05-25 11:43

      It reveals how childish and immature the ANC leaders are. People in other countries must all be giggling at how silly the ANC behaves. And they have only themselves to blame considering how they dealt with it.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-25 11:47

      Ask Murray this very question.

      Sean - 2012-05-25 11:52

      Its been on the International News since last weekend when the Spear story broke through. On ITV News last night they were talking more about the subsequent implications for the South African Constitution and if a banning of the freedom of expression might kick in, than Zuma's so-called "hurt feelings". The world is very aware of what the ANC's destructive agenda is for South Africa. Point is what will Western Nations do about it? Is South Africa just another African State like all others going down the same road as before with their bad governance syndrome?

      Ryno - 2012-05-25 11:54

      It is a real problem that an issue like this makes international headlines - and not issues like corruption, poverty, nepotism, service delivery protests, etc

      Martin - 2012-05-25 11:56

      this is good, it points out the anc only cares for themselves, its not embarrassing for me, im not the oke in charge of running the country's business and rather robbing us blind...the world needs to see this, im proudly south african, im not proudly anc, and thats where the embarrassment is. this is good, its gona cause jacob as much strife as wikileaks causes that bob up north. embarrass the anc when they screw up always, and da too if and when they screw up, get it international

      Rvn - 2012-05-25 12:16

      @Tamaranui - You should ask your president this very question, not Murray. He isn't the one that made the huge fuss about it... If your president knew how to be a leader, this painting wouldn't have bothered him.

      antin.herinck - 2012-05-25 12:20

      One of the reasons why SA is still newsworthy to the world, is because it was "the world" that demanded -and got, the evil white apartheid regime replaced with the oh so desirable democracy, the world craved oh so much. I would liken the world"s present interest in a failing SA, a bit to naughty boys who set fire to an old barn. They are fascinated with observing the harm that they participated in, but they can hush their consciences by telling themselves that the old thing (apartheid) was an eye-sore anyway.

      John - 2012-05-25 12:38

      and brettt murry is becoming a world famous artist, his works will soon be selling for small fortunes

      westburyext - 2012-05-25 13:02

      True, there are far worse issues and with this race card they keep pulling also black people living in poverty lol reverse racism let them see how some white people live in poverty a true president would have brushed it off and did research like 3rd degree did also would have not worried unless the image really sparked or touched a guilty feeling they could have auctioned the painting of and donated proceeds to a worthy cause. We have far bigger issues people living without dignity because the physical bodies are being violated or they have to use their bodies to earn a living or sustain...

      westburyext - 2012-05-25 13:06

      All i want to say is that they don`t really care about us Famous words Michael Jackson

      KB - 2012-05-25 13:17

      Good news never make profit

      melania.nel - 2012-05-25 18:06

      And still no word on the much worse painting of zuma by Ayanda Mabula.

      Paul - 2012-05-27 10:19

      Zuma and the ANC made SA"s name "gat" Zuma would have gained some respect here had he of delt with it like a man it would have been so easy

  • Marion - 2012-05-25 11:26

    "It has polarised a nation..." reads an article on" Sadly too true. And Brett Murray saying he didn't want to hurt anyone came a bit late in the day.

      Ferero - 2012-05-25 11:35

      I don't agree, I think the "people" were polarised prior to this painting...does Malema sound familiar? Now that the tables are turned... NOW only it is an issue

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-25 11:41

      Good day Marion,

      Marion - 2012-05-25 11:42

      @Ferero - I, like many, have very strong feelings about Malema and what he has done. However, I consider this painting to be totally vulgar and unnecessary and I am therefore now on a different side of the fence to many whom I agreed with about Malema. For me that indicates a new level of polarisation.

      bryan.culross - 2012-05-25 11:47

      Just us you seem to believe that you have a right to make comment and express a view Marion so does Brett Murray ... the only difference is that Brett is expressing his view through the medium of his professional field. Furthermore, it would seem that Brett portrayal of Zuma is not unfair and in this regard I refer, by way of example, to the write up on Zuma by Wikepedia (which one would consider an unbiased organisation) which focuses heavily on Zuma's sexual exploits, children, corruption and so on ... so really Brett is in many ways portraying through the medium of his canvas what others (like Wikipedia) are saying through the medium of the written word.

      Christopher - 2012-05-25 11:53

      What about Michaelangelo's sculpture of David then? Get a life you lot!!

      Marius - 2012-05-25 12:04

      Marion = so do you accept THE PRESIDENT OF SOUTH AFRICA out-of-control sexual appetite? He cannot keep "it" inside his pants so what's the problem painting it outside?? You also know you, as a taxpayer, are paying for his additional wives, travel accommodation, kids schooling = about R65M per year more!

      jomardl - 2012-05-25 12:10

      @Ferero - I don't know how you missed this but, as far as I recall Malema's remarks WERE an issue and, just like this painting, he ended up in court. I don't see the connection though - the painting is not a racial attack but if you are equating the painting with Malema's poisonous rhetoric then all the more reason to condemn it. Mind you, I'm not saying it's right to ban it or deface it - going to court over this is misguided - but people are allowed to be offended by it.

      Malcolm - 2012-05-25 12:26

      Rubbish, the nation was already polarized, all this has done is reveal this truth to those who were not capable of noticing before. Trying to blame the painting for this is just absurd.

      Nigel - 2012-05-25 12:54

      The ANC polarized this nation years ago.

      lynn.barrett.35 - 2012-05-25 13:00

      @ Marion Ayanda Mabulu did an even worse painting in 2010. Why has that not caused a stir. That painting is far more graphic. I do not condone either painting. Why is Ayanda Mabulu also not in trouble for his painting?

      Byron - 2012-05-25 13:01

      @Ferero - I think the people were polarised prior to Malema... does apartheid sound familiar?

      farmfreund - 2012-05-25 13:16

      Marion everytime i read one of your articles comments i want to vomet green, you should change your name to Morion, and please change your pichture put enything in there but yourself

      tmnqayi - 2012-05-25 13:31

      I Don't agree with violence, and totally opposed to people dehumanizing others. I'm wondering what would all of you good people would have said if this was G.W Bush, painting with his Pr&&&ck piecing on the Arabs over a barrel of oil? and some of you are even calling the old man a Pr%%ick and someone who think with his (p). the Q I ask is what does that make you? what ever happened to human respect.

      blipsie - 2012-05-25 14:11

      You know in Russia if you tell a joke about the president you can get arrested and chucked in a cell. Communism sound much like ANC?

      Ferero - 2012-05-25 15:14

      @Omnivore - no, I did not miss anything but I think you clearly misunderstood my point.... Marion stated she agreed that: "It has polarised a nation..." reads an article on" My response was... I do not agree with the statement since the polarization started PRIOR to the painting... I think this painting issue should not have gone to court. If only the ANC could put so much urgency and effectiveness into real matters that is of the essence like job creation, poverty, service delivery and the list go on, they might even would have had my vote.

      swmabotja - 2012-05-26 09:05

      By default, this country is Polarised.

  • Lorain - 2012-05-25 11:27

    Well Brett murray i do hope you are happy,you wanted attention and now you have it.Good for you.

      Bibi - 2012-05-25 11:57

      Had the ANC and Zuma just kept Quiet or laughed it off like zille - nobody would have been none the wiser.

      Iam - 2012-05-25 12:09

      @Tamaranui You bloody savage!

      jomardl - 2012-05-25 12:15

      @ Tamaranui - just when I get fed up with all the stupid racist comments from white people, you come along and live up to their favourite stereotype with a your dumb, barbaric comment. Well done.

      antin.herinck - 2012-05-25 12:35

      There Lorain goes, blaming the messenger. Ask yourself: how far would this thing have gone if: a) there was no base for Murray's criticisms b) the ANC / Zoomer saw not the need to milk this for all its worth -to rally support behind a President with fading re-election prospects c) The alliance saw not the need to grab this opportunity to re-coalesce the voter's support behind them, seeing that the opposition is on the warpath -and making inroads? Thick x 3.

      Rob - 2012-05-25 13:06

      Lol...Justice MK style. What, are you going to force him to drink cheap brandy, sit around a fire & tell " comrade " stories. Empangeni.........No artist in his right mind would go to Empangeni anyway.

      Lorain - 2012-05-25 13:26

      @ Rob actually Rob Some white people go to township in order to try and understand how other people live and maybe move away from the racial conditioning that they were brought up with,it has nothing to do with the right or wrong frame of mind when they do it.

      Heinz - 2012-05-25 13:36

      @Tamaranui, how ironic, Umkhonto we Sizwe means: Spear of the nation. LOL!! I thought you were offended by Zuma's spear hanging out, now you want Murray to get it "Spear of the nation" style. Makes me smile to think they got wasted in our last conventional war.

      Tax - 2012-05-25 13:47

      Now we know who the Empangeni ANC councillor is.

      swmabotja - 2012-05-25 13:52

      @Tamaranui... that's 'terrorism'. Are we back in time?

      blipsie - 2012-05-25 14:13

      @ Omnivore you know I've actually wondered if Tamaraniu is not actually a white oak trying to make black South Africans looks bad. Want djissie hy slaan darem hulle name met n plank hier.

      Paul - 2012-05-27 10:31

      I wonder if Zuma realises that everybody"s talking about his "spear" . What a laugh he did it to himself

  • Craig - 2012-05-25 11:28

    Guardian summed it up perfectly. Turn a blind eye to important issues but you'll be damned if you can depict Zumas junk.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-25 11:46

      Another corrupt Western institution....Who cares.

      gemmaleigh.evans.3 - 2012-05-25 11:57

      I's shameful really, moreso than anything Jacob Zuma could do in his personal capacity.

      antin.herinck - 2012-05-25 12:43

      @ Tamara you have a point. Who cares? From a SAn perspective with most of the population, at best semi-literate, no Internet access (no clue to its existence) it makes not much of a difference what the Guardian writes. But to the rest of the world, the millions of readers there, it's juicy, embarrassing news. (I understand your own embarrassment and why you try to wish it away. Does not work.)

      Craig - 2012-05-25 14:02

      I like the dismissal of the criticism as part of a Western corrupt organisation, whilst at the same time defending the corrupt ANC. You should care because it paints the country in a very negative light

      swmabotja - 2012-05-26 09:09

      It was western organisations that put pressure on the Old Regime.

  • Sonja - 2012-05-25 11:32

    So embarrassing. cANCer are ruining our country!

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-25 11:45

      Try another Mantra.

      sharon.truebodyvice - 2012-05-25 11:48

      @ Sonja.. I think sorry I know that has already been done ..........we are ruined. I hope they (anc)people get whats coming to them..........nothing because their government took it all already

      Christopher - 2012-05-25 12:21

      @Nkulueko. Thats funny, because I own my land right here in South Africa as well. Must make me a white African, or whats that saying that the strongest will survive...It seems I am stronger than you then!

      Marion - 2012-05-25 12:28

      @Nkululeko - I think I told you earlier, and I'll tell you again, I am a white African and you are a black African. You were born in Africa, I was born in Africa. That makes us both African, whether you like it or not. And South Africa is my homeland just as much as it is yours.

      colin.dovey - 2012-05-25 12:33

      @Nkululeko: YOUR WORDS on Facebook: "Don't let them tell you it is impossible, that is what they told all heroes before, in the heroes' mind that word does not exist" - your words....I AM AN colour? - Does that matter? - which part of YOUR forefathers land was "stolen" by MY forefathers? The people that are STEALING right now, out of YOUR mouth, on a DAILY basis, are your own RACIST ANC - Luthuli House is STINKING RICH on Tenders, and we will not even talk about Malema who preaches to to poor but ROLLS in wealth. The whites, coloureds and Indians in this country have nowhere else to go. Zipper Zooma is a VERY POOR "leader" - he did not even take the trouble to pick up the phone to congratulate ELON MUSK on his Space Trip - that was done by Barack Obama - who is a REAL leader. The ANC, under ZOOMA. has split this country apart - we need people like Moeletsi Mbeki, Lindiwe Mazibuku, Musi Maimane...and mark my words, the ANC is falling apart....this SPEAR issue is simply being used to divert attention away from the rampant, DAILY corruption that is taking place. FACT!

      antin.herinck - 2012-05-25 12:52

      @ All: Forgive Tamaranui, Nkululeko and other poor souls like them. They are used to the tradition that any ANC-scandal (23 838 and counting) is denied, hushed and finally ignored by them. And they count on it that the rest of the world is too busy to be aware of their embarrassing failings. But in a case like this, it's a bit too much in their faces; the world KNOWS! And there's nothing that their beloved ANC can do about it. Oh don't they HATE the media....

      Claudio - 2012-05-25 13:44

      I guess if we have to apply Nkululeko's logic to other parts of the world, then blacks in America cannot be called Americans - after all they came from Africa. Similarly the same can be said for all those blacks in Europe. nkululeko - what do you call those people and what should happen to them?

      tmnqayi - 2012-05-25 13:48

      @Nkululeko, Kahle Zuma. Sonja is an African like all human kind current studies shows that all came from the big continent, Plus from the look of things Sonja is married to Mr Xaba. so in Zulu culture that makes her a fully Zulu woman. South Africa belongs to all that duels in it. Let us all equally enjoy the beauty that our beloved country can offer us help those who with short comings and stop pointing fingers away but to ourselves. LOVE one another is the main commandment. I live in Europe working there and now I've seen why they all came to RSA. I also can not wait to go back home.

      tmnqayi - 2012-05-25 16:00

      Point of correction Mrs Xaba, its not the ANC that is embarrassing but individuals that have taken the opportunity of leadership to empower only themselves and forgot about (Steve Biko). I thought that this painting was directed to Baba Zuma not to the ANC for he is not the Movement but belongs/a member of the movement.

  • Bryan - 2012-05-25 11:34

    I am glad this circus has hit international headlines... Finally they will know just what a complete waste of time the ANC government are and where their priorities lie....

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-25 11:44

      The World will realize whom exactly is hindering our progress through childish behaviour.

      Bryan - 2012-05-25 12:02

      And if you believe that BS Tamaranui then you probably believe that the tokolosh is the offspring of the easter bunny and the tooth fairy!! Take your frikken blinkers off dude!

      Peter - 2012-05-25 12:15

      Dont feed the troll Bryan...

  • djmain1 - 2012-05-25 11:34

    Live by the spear, die by "The Spear".

      Koos - 2012-05-25 11:38

      Aaawww man ... that just sound WRONG on so many levels.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-25 11:44

      Very Original...............

      djmain1 - 2012-05-25 12:23

      How about "Umtonto We Sizwe"?

  • Koos - 2012-05-25 11:34

    Well, after hearing some of the speeches made on this so called Africa day I’m surprised at the “slow” response. I hope Europe and the US have heard what some of this continent leaders are spewing. Remember it when they stand in front of your door asking for a million more to feed the poor starving Africa. Also remember that while the rest of the developed world is trying to stabilize population growth the African continent (while starving) is “spearheading” a population explosion. Then take a look at “the spear” and know that this is the best the ANC has to offer to lead South Africa and this continent.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-25 11:43

      We will multiply till we rule the world............... Is this what you are afraid of ????

      Harley - 2012-05-25 11:59

      @tamaranui, no it's not what we are afraid of because judging by the way you 'rule' just one continent there won't be much of world left for anyone, including you

      Bryan - 2012-05-25 12:03

      Bwahahahahahahahaha @Tamaranui.... you cant rule your own backyard you dimwit..!!!

      Koos - 2012-05-25 12:06

      Yes, you are right. Even Europe realizes now that you will rule the world and there are scriptures dating back 30 000 years telling off the white vs black struggles and the black always wins and it is by our own hand that we allow this so no, not really worried Tamaranui but I am a supporter of the "Save the vulture" movement.

      Rvn - 2012-05-25 12:08

      @Tamaranui - and how will u feed your population? Think before you speak.

      Marion - 2012-05-25 12:32

      @Koos - 30 000 years? Really? Which texts are you talking about

      Rob - 2012-05-25 13:25

      Multiply....with no thought re the financial obligations to raising children. Typical. lESS BREEDING = MORE FEEDING. No worry if it's underfed, melnourished, long as " it " can get to a voting station @ 18, all well & good. Idiots !

      blipsie - 2012-05-25 14:16

      @ Koos do you know how cheaply you buy minerals etc. from a destabilized country? Just saying...I could be wrong, but probably thats why you would never hear a peep from them.

      KB - 2012-05-25 14:19

      American and European they care less about African... the only thing they care about is their business, the sculpture of spear is joke to them... I am also proud black African but I care less about the picture of Zooma because he diged his grave... You don't buy respect but you earn Respect... All I am saying we need noble leader not clown who like to party and dance.... We have never seen irrational pictures of our fore fathers ie(De Clerk, Mandela and Mbaki) being mocked by puplic.... ANC is failing the citizen

      tmnqayi - 2012-05-25 16:29

      @Blipsie, That's true my sister and that is why the West-Europe countries started this mandate of destabilizing countries that are reach in minerals way before the 18th century it was Gold and Diamonds now its Oil. They will deploy some individuals within that group to destabilize the unity and it works. Thats why you could find a lot of white comrades within movements like ANC once they learned that the blacks were not against the race but the inequality and human indignity they turned and fought with their own and they were called names and most thrown to jail and shipped back to the West/Europe. Koos I suggest you come to Europe and you will be crying over the expensive life over here. As much as I am against the wrong doings of our leadership, but I still can give them a BELLS for avoiding the likes of(Rwanda; Congo; Zambia and Zimbabwe)situations while they were fighting the old system just an example. Currently I believe we are THE only African country that is comparable to the world, and the fact that they can compere us to their own systems shows that we are not that far off. Talk about countries like: Greece France and Spain how about Scotland. They also have their own problems(Big).

      Nicolaas - 2012-05-25 20:58

      @Tamarbui, your stupid govament can't even rule a ruler, how de hell can they rule a country?

      swmabotja - 2012-05-26 09:22

      @Mnqayi... The destablizing africa was not that hard to achieve. Simply because we are Ethnic minded by nature, and that is evident throughout the continent. It wasn't white ppl that sold out revolutionaries in SA, congo and the likes, it was our fellow africans. Mfecane was not started by white ppl and it is still up to this day one of the most damaging events in our history. It has weakened and misplaced so many tribes and it's still evident today. The only reason we did not kill each other like in other african countries is because of european presence. The formation of a republic of south africa and not a colony is alone responsible for the state we're in today. If it wasn't for that we'd be no different.

  • ccandice.stoles - 2012-05-25 11:36

    Art.. freedom of speech so maybe he offended the president but what he depicts in all of his other paintings regarding the ANC... is this not true

  • Charles-Bronson - 2012-05-25 11:36

    The president who became a joke

  • Dale - 2012-05-25 11:36

    dilligaf !!!

  • Christopher - 2012-05-25 11:37

    Well done Brett!! You have shown the international community how pathetic our goverment is. They rather fight for a painting, than fight for health, education, crime, corruption, murders and rapes to name a few!!If they spent all this time toy toying for the real issues of South Africa instead of Zuma's DI** South Africa would be a better place!! This makes Zuma and his comrades look like little childish human beings!

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-25 11:42

      Thanks Brett, Now the world realizes what we have to put up with from so called Genocide sufferers.

      Christopher - 2012-05-25 12:12 always talk cr**. its that air you breathe in, in Emapngeni...I drive passed there and put my foot to the floor as that place stinks man. It sounds like that smell is coming from your mouth always. Time to floss and start living inthe real world!

      Shadrach - 2012-05-25 14:35

      Christ ,Stop speaking from the sidelines man and help toyitoyi for the righteuos things you are talking about!!!

  • veldt66 - 2012-05-25 11:41

    Welcome to the internet age junkies!!!! Im sitting in Ireland with the copy of the Spear ready to destribute it via twitter!! Im laughing at those going to court trying to hve it banned.

      Koos - 2012-05-25 11:48

      I have e-mailed a copy to the presidents office and asked that he sign it. I'll print, laminate and sell them as a fundraiser for the poor. Awaiting feedback.

  • nixvn - 2012-05-25 11:43

    Symbolism of a spear: "The spear, lance or tilting-spear is an emblem of knightly service that signifies devotion to honor and chivalry." Who says the painting isn't in honour of Zuma? Not that he deserves it... Has anyone actually bothered to ask the painter what the painting represents? The sick low standards of an immoral man or exactly what the symbolism suggests?

  • Andre - 2012-05-25 11:43

    What a hell-of-a 'gedoente' over a painting in some small obscure gallery located somewhere in Southern Africa. Ridiculous!!

      dewalds3 - 2012-05-25 11:45

      We are in the ridiculous business....

  • Carla - 2012-05-25 11:43

    Murray's defenders say a painting of Nelson Mandela with his penis exposed is unlikely. Respect is earned, they say, and Zuma has not done so, sexually or politically. Two black commentators, Mondli Makhanya and Justice Malala, have argued that say Zuma has defined himself by his sexual lifestyle. Malala wrote in the Guardian: "He has done more to provide fodder for racist stereotypes than any black South African has done."

  • Senzo Mathebula - 2012-05-25 11:44

    i just read the article on CNN...News24 can learn a thing or two on unbiased reporting

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-25 11:55

      This site is a Bias Joke of a News site. We are just here to re-align the Detractors.

      Bibi - 2012-05-25 11:59

      CNN is probably the most baised radio and TV station in the world.

      Manu - 2012-05-25 12:03

      Tamaranui, I agree. Sometimes when I read this news site it's difficult to imagine that the people here actually live in Africa. One would be forgiven for thinking that the people here live in Europe or Something. A person is a member of a minority and refuses to acknowledge or respect the culture of the majority. What is that?

      Omrisho - 2012-05-25 12:47

      manu... repect is earned... heard that before? a group does not just get respect because they are the majority or the minority... that is skewed logic there my friend - an individual earns respect through their words and actions

      Manu - 2012-05-25 13:04

      Omrisho, I keep hearing this phrase 'respect must be earned' being bandied around. Really? I was taught that one should respect others always, not just as an acknowledgement of the other's humanity but also as an acknowledgement of one's own humanity. This is how most Africans are taught to relate to each other, person to person. Imagine if we all went around disrespecting each other until others earned our respect? For sure it's quite an arrogant and self righteous perspective. In fact the way you have framed your logic, the majority have every reeason to be contemptous of you because by your disrespectul actions you have not earned their respect. You disrespect me, I desrespect you and with such a sterile philosophy how can any peoples see eye to eye.

      Tax - 2012-05-25 13:53

      @Manu really? So if Africans (I assume you are referring only to black Africans) respect each other so much why is Africa a revolting continent of savage warfare and bloodshed?

      Manu - 2012-05-25 14:14

      Tax, you are describing war situations. You can't expect people to conduct themselves properly in war situations wherever that war maybe, Europe, Asia, and so on. The picture that you paint of africa is the stereotypical negative image. I have travelled in Africa and you know what, people are friendly and welcoming. I have never had a situation were somebody told me that I had to earn their respect befor they could respect me.

  • dewalds3 - 2012-05-25 11:44

    Must be the fastest that any painting ever made it into international history: The ANC should maybe consider closing down the world's internet..?

  • swmabotja - 2012-05-25 11:45

    Somebody give the UK Guardian a Bell's

  • Tony Lapson - 2012-05-25 11:48

    Special mention goes out to the ANC, for not simply laughing it off.

  • Sean - 2012-05-25 11:52

    Its been on the International News since last weekend when the Spear story broke through. On ITV News last night they were talking more about the subsequent implications for the South African Constitution and if a banning of the freedom of expression might kick in, than Zuma's so-called "hurt feelings". The world is very aware of what the ANC's destructive agenda is for South Africa. Point is what will Western Nations do about it? Is South Africa just another African State like all others going down the same road as before with their bad governance syndrome?

  • aikhona.zuma - 2012-05-25 11:56

    I`m sure the National Idiot is squirming with pleasure at all the attention. Unfortunately the non-functioning, permanently on stand-by, un-thinking machine of this person doesn`t allow for the realization that this is publicity of the worst kind. In the past international institutions regularly reported on the progress made in the `miracle` country. Yet the only real news that came out of this corner of the globe these immediate past five years was what a mampara of a president we have. I swear to my ancestors, the hyena-soundign giggle of the National Embarrasment is going to haunt me for the remainder of my days!!

  • craig.a.salter - 2012-05-25 12:03

    now the world knows what idiots live in south africa

  • eyesears.handsfeet - 2012-05-25 12:07

    Oh well done anc! Another feather in you cap. I wonder who is playing who, as the SA government owes so much money already. Another reason to hold SA by the balls for yet again more "re-payment terms" of overseas debt."

  • Manu - 2012-05-25 12:09

    Some are delighted that this story has hit the international press, imagining that world will look at this story and think 'bad africans, don't know how to behave'. You will be shocked when you discover that many will actually be sympathetic to JZ. At the end of the day it will boil down to the issue of 'respecting the culture of the majority'. What it will then do is to bring into question the conduct of the minority. As a person who has travelled I can say that culture still plays a big role in peoples lives and many will look at this through the lense of cultural disrespect.

      Iam - 2012-05-25 13:14

      Why are you whining about culture? What does this have to do with culture? The president is criticized for his incompetence as a president and his lack of moral standards. Do you consider that be an attribute of all black people and the act of criticizing this an attack on black culture? I think I don't have to go any further to point out how stupid you are...

      Manu - 2012-05-25 13:40

      Ian, so painting a vulgar picture of JZ is how you complain about incompetence? FYI JZ polygamy is part of his culture and has nothing to do with lacking moral standards. If you want to see lack of morals then ask how many people have had one night stands, multiple sexual partners, and so on. People are acting their behaviour is that different of JZ.

      Iam - 2012-05-25 13:45

      So, rape is part of the black culture? Thanks for clearing that up. I had my suspicions!

      Manu - 2012-05-25 14:20

      You see Ian, it's exactly that kind of stereotyping that causes whites to be labeled as racist. Just because you read of rape in the news you imagine that the major preoccupation of whites is to rape each other? and from this you move on to conclude that it's our culture? If you really believe this nonsense then explain to me why whites (10%) choose to live in a country of blacks (80%)? Why live among rapists?

      Iam - 2012-05-25 15:12

      Manu, it is you who used the cultural stereotyping. It is you who keep on taking it personal when Zuma is criticized as a person for incompetence, corruption and rape. It is you who claims that he behaves this way because he is black and that criticizing him is seen by black people in general and you specifically as criticism against black culture. Can't you simply acknowledge that his behavior should not be condoned by either black or white? And that it is not an issue of race!

      Manu - 2012-05-25 17:18

      lam, now I don't even know what you are talking about. Why should I condemn the man's personal behaviour if it's part of his culture? What you are suggesting is ridiculous. I am not a catholic. Does that then give me the right to condem those who practice catholicism and all the rites that go with it? If a catholic believes that holy water purges him of sins then who am I to say otherwise? Realise that there are thousand and one things that I could condemn in other cultures but I don't. Why can you not accomodate the culture of others? Why is it so important that your culture must dominate my culture?

      Iam - 2012-05-25 17:30

      Manu, I'm stunned!! I said: "Zuma is criticized as a person for incompetence, corruption and rape." You reply: "Why should I condemn the man's personal behaviour if it's part of his culture?" ONE AGAIN, you claim that incompetence, corruption and rape is part of black culture. ARE YOU STUPID?

      Manu - 2012-05-25 17:52

      lam, has JZ been convicted of corruption and rape? As for incompetence that's only your opinion. Let's not beat around the bush here painting him in that pose was an attack on his polygamy, unless you want to tell me that a p*nis is now a symbol for corruption and incompetence.

      Riaan - 2012-05-25 18:46

      Pull the other one, Manyi. A Zulu woman actually told me she is embarrassed by this buffoon's behaviour and it's not part of Zulu culture to have children out of wedlock and marrying women without his wives' consent. And we know there are a lot of Zumas running around without him ever marrying the women. So stop hiding behind culcha to defend his and ilk like you's behaviour. Polygamy is also not African (sic) culture, but Zulu culture. And you're definitely not in the majority.

  • Warren - 2012-05-25 12:11

    referring to the Big Think article: How hugely unfair is it to ask if someone will die over this? it is so unrelated as to ask if someone will die because the world cup is hosted in Africa. it is these sorts of questions that perpetuate the myth that Africa is an inhospitable, chaotic place. Sensationalist and ignorant journalism

      tmnqayi - 2012-05-25 14:55

      The very big Q is why does it always be us the inhabitants of RSA who always talk bed about our own. I am in Europe and almost everyone I meet is telling me how beautiful is our country. Mostly RSA is very cheap compered to these so called civilized countries. And that's one and most reason why all of you complainants wants to own and run this beautiful land u can not enjoy in these other countries.

  • Piet - 2012-05-25 12:12

    What an embarrassment! I really hope the rest of the civilized world now realizes what they forced us to during the late eighties. Under new rule, a once thriving and world class South Africa deteriorated to a complete mess! Our president and government is a complete joke. Buy aaaag hell, what should one expect from a bunch of illiterate terrorists……?

      tmnqayi - 2012-05-25 14:46

      SO what can be done to make our Gvmnt better. If you are so civilized you should be posting only the constructive points not only destructive? I'm not in favor of the Gvmnt but plz give good ways if the current ways are not good.

      Iam - 2012-05-25 17:21

      @tmnqayi A government that sorts out the mess in the municipalities and doesn't steal. How's that for a beginning? Just say if you want more "good ways".

  • marc.schroeder.35 - 2012-05-25 12:23

    Classic, in their attempt to put out the fire the ANC have succeeded in creating an international sensation, the picute is now world famous! It's not who has seen this painting anymore, it's who hasn't. VIVA OPPRESSION of Freedom of Expression!

  • lynn.syme.1 - 2012-05-25 12:29

    We are loving it here overseas. It's bringing so much to the fore of what a useless Government really looks like. It's making ours look text book style in comparison. It's making the SA Government look more like North Korea and China by the day. Sorry South Africans - you're leanings are more Communistic than ever before where you dare not criticize the leadership. Even the Queen of England takes a hammering in good humour. We also noted, with some intrepidation, the pre-printed placards organised by your leadership and we are in awe at the lengths they will go to on the tax-payers account. Your President is a public figure, a servant of the people, paid by the people and is open to scrutiny and criticism at any given time. Perhaps he will now conduct himself in a presidential manner? I won't hold my breath. You appear to have a mini-me Berlosconi on your your hands.

      Malcolm - 2012-05-25 12:32

      I'm glad the rest of the world is finally starting to catch on to what us sane South Africans have been trying to say for years. And yes our current leaders are horribly communistic.

      Marion - 2012-05-25 12:37

      @lynn - for someone born in SA you have certainly distanced yourself from your country of birth. Thank God you left.

      blipsie - 2012-05-25 14:35

      @ Marion, liewe genade maar jy is darem n ongeskikte ou tannie. Menopause?

      tmnqayi - 2012-05-25 15:08

      I find it so interesting that most of the people complaining about our current system are the ones who left for better living, hahaha. If you are all in CANNAN why are you so concern about Egypt? I live in Europe yes but I would give anything to go back to RSA if you see shortfalls on our current system please suggest good ways of management.

  • Adil Smit - 2012-05-25 12:31

    Ayanda Mabulu's comments on the painting is quite interesting - why does NEWS24 not include that in the reporting?

      vlarismam - 2012-05-25 12:40

      Because they're like a broken record stuck in one groove...

  • Matshidiso - 2012-05-25 12:45

    As far as art is concerned there willing people to pose for naked art. As much no one has the right to publish images or videos of any one taken by consent that person has to agree for the images to be published, so does this type of art. The painting is vulgar and insulting to patray someones privates parts without thier consent. The President should also open a case of criminal injuria and defamation of character.

  • DaniellGrahamKemp - 2012-05-25 12:46

    JZ has 4+ wives and 20+ kids, when does he have the time to put his dong away???????

  • lynn.syme.1 - 2012-05-25 12:55

    MARION: "@lynn - for someone born in SA you have certainly distanced yourself from your country of birth. Thank God you left" I thank God every day! I thank God for the country that adopted me, giving my children and myself great opportunities, safety and peace of mind. It's a pity my country of birth couldnt be bothered doing the same for their own citizens. But I must jog on and go and plant a few trees for my grand-children's future. You get the Government you deserve, I believe. So Marion darling, you keep voting and protecting your leader. Yours and your grandchildren's future is completely safe in the hands of the ANC *wink*

      Marion - 2012-05-25 13:00

      @lynn - do not presume that I vote for the ANC simply because I disagree with this artwork.

  • leigh.paikin - 2012-05-25 13:01

    I dont get this whole saga. Zapiro publishes in his books, pictures of Zuma with shower heads etc... which in turn are sold in EVERY bookstore in SA. Newspapers publish these pics in their weekly publication. Now a fairly abstract piece of art - that shows no more than is seen in the statue of David has become a major issue to go to court over. And its only hanging until next month? I know Zuma is sueing Zapiro. Why doesnt he just sue the artist and take the whole saga offline? Unless its attention the ANC wants...

      blipsie - 2012-05-25 14:38

      Of course they want the attention. Thats why they whipped out the racist card and swept up the masses into hating the disrespecting horrid minority again. Just check twitter and facebook and see how many are calling for the slaughter/murder of disrespecting "boers" for painting their father this way. Im not even joking.

  • Azariel - 2012-05-25 13:04

    That Malindi is trying to play to the public gallery and he must know that all black south african have suffered under the apartheid regime. Having been imprisoned, gone into exile doesnt mean those who fought the apartheid regime with stones and petrol bombs didnt suffer. This propaganda that apartheid regime was defeated by the so called anc mk is a lie and the truth will come out one day. Malindi stop behaving like a spoilt brat. I am interested in the case not in what happened to you in the past, we all suffered under apartheid. If you dont have ammunition to represent the anc please give the case to the strong ones.

  • Mark - 2012-05-25 13:18

    I'm pretty much neutral on this whole Spear saga, but could one imagine if a similar painting was done of PW Botha back in the bad old days of the eighties. A lot of Afrikaners would have revolted and probably tarred and feathered the artist.

      blipsie - 2012-05-25 14:39

      As far as I know Murray did one painting of one of the old politicians in those days with a huge target on his head and a missile heading towards is. So next theory please

  • Dodozi - 2012-05-25 13:33

    Anc like any government has powers to sanction any form of media publications, but it chose not to, because it respects the freedom of expression. Dont fool yourselves into thinking that it cannot. Dont but City Press campaign continues until the little Faizel is fired.

  • Abie - 2012-05-25 13:53

    When Zuma had sex with an HIV+ woman he put his spear in the public domain so what's this bulldust about dignity and privacy. Stop crying ANC and do something about poverty, hunger, unemployment etc. etc.

  • Bullard - 2012-05-25 13:58

    By the WaY Brett Murray:)You Are S.As Art-Hero..Much respect for Unleashin ANCs Dirty side>>> should run for President and clean up ds mess

  • tmnqayi - 2012-05-25 14:39

    Good people when are we going to stop this thing of pointing fingers away from us but start pointing them on ourselves? RSA is for all I repeat. PINK and BROWN (Steve Biko). Stop complaining about everything that our leadership is doing/not doing and start suggesting good ways if you know how it should be. You all and always complaining about what the BROWN leaders are doing but you never give good ways and directions as to how it should be. Lets all make it our own responsibilities to make this a good country, we all need each other

      Iam - 2012-05-25 15:15

      Stop seeing Zuma as a BLACK president and just as a BAD president!!

  • Ally - 2012-05-25 15:48

    But Zuma doesn't have any balls, w What you see in the picture is Brett's balls, which he donated to the man with no balls.

  • maureen.botes2 - 2012-05-25 17:11

    This is the most ridiculous reaction to something so trivial. The ANC is avoiding the hard issues like crime and corruption and concentrating on the soft issues{pun unintended) like Mr Zumas Dick. The crying saga was just oh so false

  • George - 2012-05-25 19:18

    Now the world will be able to see he true measure of our head honcho. Quite small from what I recall from the painting. One can just see the wold's dictators quietly scurrying to their bathrooms and seeing how they measure up. Another Nandos' moment waiting to happen.

  • rene.mcevoy - 2012-05-26 00:42

    I wonder whether the ANC is going to give Brett Murray some kind of bonus for gifting them the opportunity get the countries focus away from the pilfering of the national coffers, poor service delivery and other far more important issues at hand?

  • Winifred - 2012-05-26 08:31

    Why the fuss now, this has been international news since day one. the big joke is on the ANC how they making it worse by carrying on like spoilt children. This is Zuma's problem and you should be wise to keep your mouths zipped tight and let him for once fight his own battle but instead you call for protests etc. Always violence around the ANC. Let me tell you the painting is not my cuppa tea and I certainly would not use my hard earned money to buy it because it is distasteful but then again thats the image he portrays. We may have been more sympathetic if Zuma did'nt carry on like a spoilt child, so he drew all the attention to himself, so now live with it. No court case or banning is going to solve the problem, being silent at the beginning would have been the road to take and no fuss would ever have erupted, so zuma you created the problem.

  • makondon - 2012-05-26 08:38

    Shouldn't we be focusing our energies on something that will advance cause of All South Africans. I don't why the noise around the painting.

  • michelle.o.roos - 2012-05-26 08:59

    i think mr president should be proud, He was generously painted, Maybe he is not upset by it at all, maybe the media is being used to show off a little or alot. I think any man would be complimented by the artist's scale of spear.....

  • hsnam - 2012-05-26 10:26

    So Helen Zille laughs off doctored nude images of her on facebook, while Zuma and the ANC go to court to protect Zuma's dignity (does he even have any dignity left after the showergate scandal?). Just shows these people as unfit to rule SA.

  • Moeketsi - 2012-05-26 12:33

    'the anc, which in the past has been critisized for remaining silent in the face of corruption,its own people dying of aids and human rights violations in zimbabwe'. hypocracy of the highest order from those hollier than thou, western media. please this is not europe, keep your narrow eurocentric judgement of aficans to yourself.

  • athonythomas - 2012-05-27 14:52

    Someone is really cross and the question is does this divide the ANC ?