State of police scrutinised: Mthetwa

2013-01-18 21:03

Johannesburg - The state of the police service is being examined so that it could "live up to expectations" and improve the service, says Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa.

"We have a 10-point plan to look holistically at policing and live up to expectations so that people can feel safe," he told reporters in Boksburg.

"The plan relates to the transformation of the SAPS and the cadre of cops we want to see in a democracy."

Mthethwa said he wanted to check on the conduct and behaviour of police officers and focus on training.

"We should always improve on training.

"Training, in its nature, is ongoing."

The training will include refresher courses for police management at all levels on how to manage resources.

National police commissioner Riah Phiyega said the plan was not about gender or race but about the quality of service to the people.

She said there was also a focus on infrastructure projects to upgrade police stations and call centres.

Mthethwa said the plan was not a mechanical one and there was no "tick-box" being marked off.

The quality of caring was important in the field, he said.

Corruption by officers would continue to be investigated and officers would continue arresting their own colleagues, if necessary.

"We can't have criminal-minded police officers," the minister said.

  • Abdulcarrim Essa - 2013-01-18 21:12

    They always have a 10 point or 5 point or 7 point plan. Unfortunately it never gets implemented.

      godfrey.welman - 2013-01-18 22:14

      Just pre-empting what will come from the WC Commission of Inquiry, so he can say "nothing new, we had identify this and are addressing it in our 10 point plan". So typical of the CancER.

  • Erna - 2013-01-18 21:23

    He said exactly nothing.

  • allan.rosenberg.752 - 2013-01-18 21:32

    Lip service at its best. Firstly, the public have to trust the SA Police and that includes Metro villains as well. Your reputation is so tarnished, I'm afraid it's irreparable. Could you make your 10 point plan transparent to the public if you want anyone to believe your course of action. This is one time that I would like to see the police succeed.

  • lacrimose.wolf - 2013-01-18 21:37

    State of the police or a police state? We are so, so very weary of your plans and policies and procedures and theoretical models are carefully crafted in the 19th century. They have NO BEARING on life in the 21st century. And I do feel sorry for SAPS - they still have 19th century technology, and a 19th century management paradigm all mixed up with 100 year old laws, 2-day old laws and everything in between. Add to the confusion, political protection and a totally bizarre set of laws that dictates what an 'arrestable crime' is. Then this very entrenched paradigm that law enforcers are automagically above the law. Scrutinise all you wish, you need to have a concept of what the law is before you can enforce it and what is needed to enforce it.

  • hudayfah.newman - 2013-01-18 21:52

    Hey didn't you run to court when they were being scrutinised in khayalitsha?

  • karl.vanrooyen - 2013-01-18 21:58

    I've lived long enough to say never trust a cop !

  • ware.afrikaner.5 - 2013-01-18 22:00

    Transform the police?You have already transformed the police force from a working department into a useless corruption ridden department.

  • cemslie - 2013-01-18 22:08

    10 points for more money!!! More training, more infrastucture, more tax payers money being wasted on nonsense instead of improving the quality of policing. Stop worrying about ylur atatus or what makes you look good and actaully get the police for pff their fat lazy asses and become a force to reckoned with and not a force to joke with and play with!!! Take charge and ne the change we seek instead of playing with fluffy words that tey to make us believe you cant actaully do you job we so highly pay for!!!

      Stewart Croucamp - 2013-01-18 22:25

      Our police force consists of a bunch of criminals.

      Clash No-one Mafumo - 2013-01-19 07:01

      @cemlile. police pay taxes too hey,

  • Danie Gerber - 2013-01-18 22:38

    Mr Police Minister, it doesn't help u train criminals to be better criminals or u train people that is lazy and don't want to work. How about employing more people under the age of 45, whether they white, brown or black. I am sure u will find a lot of people that is jobless that will give all they got if u give them a chance.

  • marc.celliers - 2013-01-18 22:44

    The sad thing is that there are actually members from the SAPS that are trying to make a difference but due to the corruption in the SAPS management they are fighting a losing battle. How do you keep law and order on the streets when your own house is a mess. This is Zuma's 2nd term, shouldn't this 10 point plan have been completed years ago?

      michael.tetley.35 - 2013-01-18 23:04

      I do feel for the honest cops in the force, fighting not only criminals but their corrupt colleagues, ineffective management and the resultant poor public image and negative perceptions.

  • mzuvukile.maswana - 2013-01-18 22:45

    After a bad start by the men in blue this year such a PR was long time coming. Its damage control on the image that has already been impacted by negative publicity. From police dying in passanger side of a civilian vehicle to being arrested by a civilian due to drunkness.

  • michael.tetley.35 - 2013-01-18 22:55

    Poor recruitment criteria, poor training and equipment, poor management, general lack of discipline and pride, non-existent or ineffective regular monitoring of job performance and fitness levels, lack of regular refresher and further training. Senior management that are not career cops. What can we expect.

      michael.tetley.35 - 2013-01-18 23:11

      Lets not forget integrity, although this should already be determined as part of the recruitment process.

  • Swapie - 2013-01-18 23:00

    You can have a 100 point plan, if you dont start to discipline nothing will change. For every one that is doing his job right, 100 are taking a nap on duty.

  • arthur.salvado - 2013-01-19 07:06

    Can we archive this article and have a look again in 10 years time. Blame will be put on apartheid because the training failed and corruption trebled. Any bets ?

  • phillip.dewaal - 2013-01-19 07:22

    Dear Minister, I don't really care that much about "feeling" safe... I want my family to actually BE safe!

  • maren.deklerk - 2013-01-19 08:12

    Police service-now there is a classic oxymoron for you......

  • luna.moon.5243817 - 2013-01-19 08:23

    "transformation" yet again??

  • bulelwa.poni.9 - 2013-01-19 08:33

    Nathi Mthethwa told reporters= "so that people can feel safe" there's a bang of a difference between "feeling" safe, and ... BEING safe !!! WE NEED THE REAL THING, SIR !!!

  • DikgosiThokoane - 2013-01-19 11:10

    When are we going to start seeing results of all these plans, policies, commissions and get togethers?. The public has been seeing lack of results and increased apathy and corruption for a long time now.

  • cheers.perez - 2013-01-19 14:03

    Just a simple, two-point plan. First point, every police officer must be weighed and be told to reach their ideal weight within twelve months. Second point, whilst on the diet -only for the few who need it - every officer must retake their driving test and retrain across foundational segments of police work relevant to their rank. ALL this whilst working a 75% work schedule during the same twelve-month period. Eish!

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