Survey shows SA democracy slipping

2012-02-06 21:28

Johannesburg - Key indicators of democracy have slipped since 2008, according to the latest South Africa Survey, the SA Institute of Race Relations (SAIRR) said on Monday.

The survey, which is based on assessment of three international indexes, found that civil liberties had decreased, researcher Georgina Alexander said in a statement.

The indicators of corruption control and the government's ability to provide quality public services were also cause for concern.

The World Bank Governance Indicator Report found that South Africa had improved in the areas of political stability and the rule of law.

However, in the categories of government effectiveness and voice and accountability, South Africa had slipped from the previous report of 2008.

The Rainbow Index, which was developed by the SAIRR, found a 6% decline in individual rights and responsibilities.

Alexander said the falling scores could be attributed to issues such as media freedom and accountability of public officials.

"Proposed legislation such as the protection of state information bill passed by the National Assembly may adversely affect South Africa’s democracy rankings in the future," she said.

  • Victor - 2012-02-06 21:43

    There were never democracy after the 94 election, and the ANC government is a disgrace to any country. Even Africa is turning their backs on this greedy bunch. Most ineffective government in the world.

      Herman - 2012-02-06 22:05

      biggest mistake ever, One Man (idiot), One Vote.

      Irene - 2012-02-06 22:13

      Herman ~ No mistake about that. Voting should be based on your tax number.

      Amu - 2012-02-06 22:28

      Was there democracy before 94 elections!!??

      Michael - 2012-02-06 22:48

      @Victor, Your comment is as dumb as yourself. Which democracy have you experienced before 1994?

      Spyker - 2012-02-06 22:58

      @Amu - what is the meaning of the word "democracy"..?

      Amu - 2012-02-06 23:34

      @ spyker Democracy in its purest or most ideal form would be a society in which all adult citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. We can argue that there is no democracy now, but there sure wasnt before 94.

      Andrew - 2012-02-07 06:19

      Michael and Amu, please explain where this ideal form of democracy is practised in RSA, where we have virtually a single party state. All politicians owe alliegence to the controlling party due to proportional representation and not the electorate therefore they toe the line of a few NEC members. Corruption is rife and nepotism the practise of unqualified cadres place into high office.Is this democracy?

      MastersVoice - 2012-02-07 08:03

      Amu - if you had to find the definition in Wikipedia in order to reply to Spyker, it means you probably did not really know yourself. Personally, I'm of the opinion that democracy is not that important, but accountability is.

      Mlungisi - 2012-02-07 08:45


      richard.hipkin - 2012-02-07 09:50

      @Mlungisi, wise words from an educated man? What are your views? Other then what is fed to you that is..

  • cameronjohnprice - 2012-02-06 21:44

    Now there is a surprise......NOT!

      Ben - 2012-02-06 21:47

      Any improvement would be a surprise.

      cameronjohnprice - 2012-02-06 21:51

      I agree @ Ben.

  • inwardk - 2012-02-06 21:46

    Now there's a surprise

  • Lumko Ntshinka - 2012-02-06 21:53

    These surveys are really annoying, 1st it was the endangered s.a white race, now this mfxm.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-02-07 09:58

      Truth's a bitch ne?

  • Lumko Ntshinka - 2012-02-06 21:53

    These surveys are really annoying, 1st it was the endangered s.a white race, now this mfxm.

      Lephutsi - 2012-02-06 22:27

      @ Lumko Ntshinka.......ANC has become corrupt over the past few years. Please stop blaming everything on Racism. Our country is no longer ruled by racists. At least the racist government was taking care of its people. What is the ANC government doing to people who put it in power? Were the collapse of services in Limpopo caused by Racism? Why is the ANC government suppoprting dictators like Mugabe and Kabila and not encouraging them to bring changes to their countries? What about the information bill in SA? Does it promote transparency and accontability?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-02-07 09:51

      @Lephutsi, you wasting your time. Speaking sense to people like this is like trying to tell a goat not to run into the street..

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-02-07 09:53


  • Scouter - 2012-02-06 21:54

    Hardly think a survey was required in order to reveal this earth shattering news.

      ivan.coetzee2 - 2012-02-06 21:59

      Now its "official" whateva that means

      Scouter - 2012-02-06 21:59

      "The World Bank Governance Indicator Report found that South Africa had improved in the areas of political stability and the rule of law" There must be another SA somewhere that we are not aware of.

  • ivan.coetzee2 - 2012-02-06 21:58

    ya think??? Come on people, neither the ANC nor the CNA are doing their job!!

      Nigel - 2012-02-07 07:27

      well said, its both the ANC % (to a lesser extent) the media that are to blame, Govt for corruption, incompetence, non-delivery & the media for often irresponsible & inaccurate reporting.

  • Herman - 2012-02-06 22:04

    No survey needed, just open your eyes.

  • Chris - 2012-02-06 22:07

    We do not need a survey to confirm what we already know.

  • Marius - 2012-02-06 22:31

    This "Rainbow" nation nonsense is getting old now. We are no more diverse than the UK or USA. The catch phrase was nice in 1994, but we are long time passed the honeymoon.

  • adshade - 2012-02-06 22:40

    While this news is incredibly disheartening and disappointing, I find it quite rich that many commenters are blasting the ANC and their democracy "score," when many of you supported one of the most undemocratic governments in history before '94. Don't get me wrong, the ANC is pathetic, but those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. If you take a look at nation development in history, every new nation (and, yes, South Africa post-1994 certainly fits the classification of a new nation) must go through this. It's the nature of the beast. We're not even at the 20 year mark yet development terms, this is a minute sliver of time. Comparatively, SA's progress as a nation on many levels (most importantly societal and democratic) is still leaps and bounds ahead of other nations that have also recently experienced a nation changing revolution. Look at Brazil, India, China, Mexico, and a host of other nations...on many indicators, SA leads. I know none of us are naturally patient in this regard, but sometimes we simply have to let societal nature take its course. Things will change for the's almost fact.

      Scouter - 2012-02-06 22:52

      "It's the nature of the beast" ....... you don't say!

      John - 2012-02-07 00:15

      How long should we wait before we criticize the government?? While we watch the rapid increase in corruption, nepotism, self protection and the passing of legislation like the secrecy bill to bury the facts. With the present decline, it will take another 20 years to turn the ship around. Now please tell us on what "indicators" SA leads in comparison to those countries. And because there are other corrupt nations out there, should we be prepared to just sit back and accept the status quo??

      Scouter - 2012-02-07 01:59

      It's that irritating tendency to reduce every standard to the lowest common denominator - otherwise known as a 'fools paradise'.

      Mlungisi - 2012-02-07 08:47

      Give adshade a bells. Logic right there.......

      Harald - 2012-02-07 09:05

      move on from the "past regiem" this and that.... what you want? to sit back and wait before everything is f#$%ed??

      Ubhejane - 2012-02-07 09:30

      Adshade,uyiskhokho!!!! well captured,this is a true story but ofcourse very few who ever comment here will acknowledge that,take a bow....

      richard.hipkin - 2012-02-07 09:54

      Yes adsade, why don't you do us a favour and go educate yourself about pre 94. If you bothered to research you would have found that the NP did not enjoy a majority of the vote. I think their best performance was 56%. The white population was in fact very divided into far right (HNP, KP), right wing (NP) and liberal (PFP, now the DA). But hey, I see your ANCYL propaganda classes are rubbing off on you..

      richard.hipkin - 2012-02-07 09:57

      @ubhejane, listen punk it's my birthday next week, I'm turning 356 years old, you're invited. It's 2012, most of us were in nappies idiot..

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-02-07 00:33

    It took a survey to realize this?....... We will know we have democracy once the ANC is voted out.

  • Tony - 2012-02-07 06:28

    So, the ANC scheme, oppress ourselves, then we can harp on about revolutionary, and free dumb, and all those typically reactionary words, then we give back a liberty or two, and this will make us look like we're "liberating" the sheep all over again .. The short walk to free dumb..

  • Daft - 2012-02-07 06:41

    Our constitution is not worth the paper it is written on.....

  • Johnson - 2012-02-07 07:05

    Bla Bla - same old story, does the ANC care - We have many examples of other African countries, predicting the outcome is certain, if we had faith that it would ever be normal, then the ANC would have had the political will to resolve the problems in the country, not freedom but more legislation and more taxation, is the only two things I see at the moment

  • Herbert - 2012-02-07 07:14

    Did we really need a survey to confirm what is common knowledge?

      naude.andrea - 2012-02-07 08:27

      Yes Herbert then it is official and according to world standards. The ANC can not wipe it under the carpet while eating cake when the masses don't have bread.

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-02-07 08:38

    So lets not just repeat negitive statements.....lets all be positive here...lets think up a new name for those that want to see massive change.... maybe Rainbow nation did'nt work...and is now who can come up with a brilliant ,meaningfull, catchy name, that could distinguish a group of people ready to unite together using the media (for how ever long that lasts)to wake up our fellow South Africans letting them see together things can happen, through words and not guns. This is just an idea, hope some patriotic person on these pages can take it further.

      Johnnie - 2012-02-07 08:47

      How about 'Espirit de Corps'

  • Deon - 2012-02-07 09:50

    Another survey to show we (All Tax paying S.Africans) are being robbed off our moneys,jobs,integrity and believe in a fair and Democratic society(This I dont realy believe). We comment on this pages every day, but who is really reading it?....NOT the goverment or people that could take it to heart and listen to the people, no my friends just us few, and who cares a continental f@#% what we think?? NOT THEM!!!(The people who can make a differance!!)

  • beryl.knipe - 2012-02-07 10:41

    Like all the "isms" of the past and present - demon-cracy is just another evil system - anyway. People voted for it in 1993 - didn't they? Well, one normally gets what one votes for.

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-02-07 14:27

    Deon, I know these comments will probably never be read by the people they are intended for...but lets take heart in the fact that we share our feelings on issues, with others...and some how that kinda relieves the frustration of living in this counrty of ours.

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