Suspend punching pupil - dept

2012-11-22 11:50

Johannesburg - A pupil who allegedly punched his teacher should be suspended pending a disciplinary hearing, the Gauteng department of education said on Thursday.

"It constitutes serious misconduct. We have asked the school governing body to make a precautionary suspension of the learner," said spokesperson Charles Phahlane.

The Sowetan reported that Grade 9 and 10 teacher Ngcebo Lubisi was knocked unconscious last week by a pupil whose cellphone she had confiscated during exams.

The pupil, 18, then fled, jumping over the fence at Dan Kutumela Secondary School in Zithobeni, near Bronkhorstpruit in Gauteng.

Lubisi, age 27, was rushed to a doctor and an eye specialist.

During a meeting, she told school authorities that she wanted to be moved to a new school.

Captain Pinky Tsiyane confirmed that police were investigating a case of common assault.

  • richard.laros.77 - 2012-11-22 12:01

    No, don't suspend the little S##T. Lay charges of assault against him and let the law take its course. He is old enough to vote, he must take responsibility for his actions. Let him finish school in jail for all I care. This is the type of ill-discipline that the government condones by prohibiting corporal punishment. I am willing to bet that if kids were still allowed to be disciplined properly at school, the youth of today would be very different.

      michael.horton.566790 - 2012-11-22 12:30

      I hold to my thoughts that it starts at home! If the parents don't educate and punish their children then these things happen! Or the kid is learning from his parents on how to sort things out!

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-11-22 14:54

      There were a few teachers I disliked intensely and I am sure the feeling was mutual, but never in my wildest dreams would I have thought of hitting a teacher. My parents would have beaten me senseless, the head would have caned my ass and the police would definitely have caned my ass, add to that the fact I would have been thrown out of school immediately. Besides, disliking a teacher doesn't mean you don't have respect for them. That was the 70's though, how times have changed.

  • vambozha.mutemi.9 - 2012-11-22 12:04


  • kenpeg.dawson - 2012-11-22 12:08

    This is what you get when you take disipline away. Donner the little thugs.

  • ulandi.potgieter - 2012-11-22 12:08

    My word poor teacher.

  • jon.jones.90663894 - 2012-11-22 12:11

    What the hell was the little tsosti doing with a cell phone IN EXAMS ???.

      brian.connell.18 - 2012-11-22 12:17


      brian.connell.18 - 2012-11-22 13:50

      I wonder why you have two thumbs-down? Seems a tad harsh for simply asking a question .......

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-11-22 12:12

    It must be hell to be a teacher in these schools where there is no discipline. Bring back the thrashing under controlled conditions and administered by the headmaster with an eye witness!

  • linda.duits - 2012-11-22 12:20

    Expell the little sh@t! I hope this teacher lays a charge of assault against him. Bring back corporal punishment into schools thats why these little idiots get away with this.

  • steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-11-22 12:22

    The worst part of this is that the teacher is a woman. Any learner that commits such a crime against a woman, should be dealt with by the full might of the law. Shocking.

      steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-11-22 13:38

      Whoever gave the thumbs down obviously has no problem with beating up and abusing women.

  • promise.ozuzu - 2012-11-22 12:23

    Eish, Eish!

  • quarty.vanzyl - 2012-11-22 12:24

    This would not happen if the principal had a cane in his office!

      jabu.phakula.1 - 2012-11-22 12:38

      we black south african we dont know want w want,when teachers can our children we ran to the police,so what nxt

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-11-22 12:56

      He needs a bazooka in that school...

  • dragonfire47 - 2012-11-22 12:25

    Suspended, thrash its ass so it dosent sit for a month

  • robyne.peel.9 - 2012-11-22 12:25

    Expelled and he is 18 so he should be charged with grievous bodily harm, disgusting!

  • olivia.karnak - 2012-11-22 12:28

    Ban him from all school, savage hooligan!

  • mart.botha - 2012-11-22 12:28

    We really miss the benefits of strictly controlled corporal punishment! The youth of today are that much poorer because it was banned. In fact I am prepared to go as far as saying that the lack of corporal punishment in schools has created a void in these kids brains where they now fail to instantly recognise that actions have consequences...their cognitive abilities are so retarded that they are effectively ignoring one of natures simple yet important laws.

  • Benjamin - 2012-11-22 12:29

    Why is there even a debate about this. He should be expelled immediately. Any man that hits a woman is no man at all.....lock him up.

  • jabu.phakula.1 - 2012-11-22 12:30

    sa is free ctry,free to kill,rape ,children get children,robbery ,every thing is free ,im crying for my land

      simon.pearce.790 - 2012-11-22 14:38

      Maybe you should put your "X" in a different place next time. Oh - and tell a few friends too.

  • aspruyt - 2012-11-22 12:34

    This country is beyond help. Poor teacher.

  • arthur.marks.754 - 2012-11-22 12:34

    The teacher MUST lay a charge of assault. Once again thanks to the cANcer govt for the ill discipline in our schools, the so called leaders of tomorrow.

  • thomasdauglas.mnisi - 2012-11-22 12:35

    Our teachers work with their hands tied up by pieces of legislation that gives the learners more rights which they tend to abuse and become even more uncontrollable and corrupt. We experience learners who go to school drunk or with booze,drugs and dangerous weapons and expensive cell phones circulating pornographic pictures in class.I understand the pain and frustration our teachers are going through yet we expect them to produce 100% pass rate. How can you produce good results where you have no control? As a nation we need to rebuke this now because tommorow will be late. Hence we see youngsters raping elderly people, it starts here.

  • Gaby - 2012-11-22 12:36

    No, Lubisi, stand your ground. It is the tsotsi that must go and not you!

  • santoshmah - 2012-11-22 12:36

    Expel him. At that age he fully understands the consequences log his actions. Then let the law take over.

  • lwazi.sibiya.10 - 2012-11-22 12:36

    A 18 year old at grade 9/10? Trouble written all over this dom-kop

      flysouth - 2012-11-22 12:39

      My thoughts too - what are 18 years olds doing still in secondary school? They should be finished with school by this age. Just another example of the total mismanagement of everything under the ANC.

  • andremandela.julias - 2012-11-22 12:37

    Why can we not comment on the AA trainee pilot who wrote off the defence force plane in Mmthata after failing her exam twice?

      jabu.phakula.1 - 2012-11-22 12:43

      she was pushed to be a pilot,so she can make history,first black woman to fly army plane ,oh shame.

      flysouth - 2012-11-22 12:47

      400 hours of training! Instructors said she is unsuitable as she should have qualified at 100 hrs or less. Just like the Zimbos trainees sent to Moscow to learn to fly and who also spent 400 and more hours in training - the Russian instructors said the same thing! Clearly we can see a pattern here.

  • zelda.dickson - 2012-11-22 12:38

    Sue the pupil or the parents for assault and damages. If the parents cannot bring up their children to have respect then they must bear the consequences.

  • michael.hein.7374 - 2012-11-22 12:42

    Can somebody tell me what all of these schools have in common???? I'm stricly speaking about the ones where, kids are been stapped, shot, raped, teachers punched????? or am I the only one that can pin point the problem??? however I do blame the parents!

  • Tello Moleko - 2012-11-22 12:46

    boy u cant do that to my woman,your family should have preparing for yo funeral by now still asking what happened to you,at 18 you should be at University having exam fever like we do

  • sibongile.m.mbatha - 2012-11-22 12:50

    Yaaa angithi dis kids hv ryts nw dey cnt b punished. Poor teachers mina I'd sort out dat kid quick quick.

  • alex.richards.94064 - 2012-11-22 12:54

    Let him get a good caning. Helped in old days. should still work, and discipline his parents as well for disciplining him

      siyabonga.phungula1 - 2012-11-22 13:08

      u know its been outlawed teachers cant do a thing about it.

  • zolanqa - 2012-11-22 13:01

    Spare the rod, spoil the child! I grew up in an error of corporal punishment. I was never abused, but disciplined when the need raised. Later, when I went to school at the former model c schools, where there was no corporal punishment, I dared NOT do anything out of turn because my parents would've been informed about any ill behavior and I would've been royally punished. If I was rude to anyone, especially adults, from any walk of life, I was punished. And looking back to my childhood, I am grateful for that because I respect everyone without prejudice. Having said this, the worst disservice that has been done to these children today, is making punishment illegal. Expel the sod and more importantly, don't spare the ROD!!!

      zolanqa - 2012-11-22 13:01

      Oops, ERA.

      simon.pearce.790 - 2012-11-22 14:40

      It was a good error though..... :)

  • ft.burhaak - 2012-11-22 13:01

    The recent disturbing incidents taking place in schools shows the dire dysfunctional state of affairs in the department of education.I dont blame the students at all,if the people at the top are not behaving morally.

  • kitty2wp - 2012-11-22 13:03

    was this a boy punching a woman? cellphones should be turned off during lessons.

  • susan.wright.92 - 2012-11-22 13:06

    Bring back reform school asap.What is an 18 year old doing in a grade 9 or 10 class,unless he was on substitution which I doubt.

  • collins.ntelele - 2012-11-22 13:06

    Are there teachers who still get knocked lights off by learners,in this epoch,to the extent that he consults an eye specialist.I m sure the poor teacher is only 27 years old.A case of common assault is gonna benefit you,in any way,ask me.Get a highly qualified lawyer.

  • attie.mostert.9 - 2012-11-22 13:10

    Everyone complains educate for a better future, sounds to me if it is for free, I dont care. Who needs education our awesome cANCer goverment will look after us, lets see if we can be as stupid as they are

  • phadima.theo - 2012-11-22 13:16

    when a student punchd a teacher there is a reason why he dd that coz sm ada teacher they do nt respect student decision

      teresa.villarini - 2012-11-22 13:48

      No sorry ! They are children that need to go to school and learn not behave like hooligans ! Kids don't have decisions! that's the problem these days, they think they have a say! You tell me how can teachers respect kids that behave like that ? Sies man ! I'm a parent of 2 beautiful well mannered kids and trust me, mine would never behave like that because there would be serious consequences !

      burningdogz - 2012-11-22 13:52

      The teacher confiscated his cellphone during an exam according to the article. By right he should have been taken for a disciplinay right then and there as it is against exam rules to the highest degree. He should have thanked her for giving him another chance. Most importantly though, if he has a grievance with a teacher he could have settled it in a civilized manner. Poor excuse.

      zahierm - 2012-11-22 15:31

      Oh my word! What are you smoking man? He punched a woman...the coward. An adult for that delusional moron. Who's next? His mom, grandma or heaven forbid , his wife one day? Stop making excuses for these thugs!!!

      Reynold Nkosi - 2012-11-24 00:38

      O seke wa tsuba matekwa b4 u post. teachers have to b respected first as parents, second as pple shaping our kids' future. If de school says phones are nt allowed u mean uo child has a ryt to de opposite? mxm poor u

  • teresa.villarini - 2012-11-22 13:33

    There's absolutely no control over these hooligan kids! I've witnessed how kids talk to their teachers and its disgusting! Now this ? My kid wouldn't sit for a month if he did something like that ! Whose fault is it? Parents or government taking away corporal punishment? Shocking story !

  • Msika - 2012-11-22 13:46

    Ouhch!! Bring back the death penalty.

  • Tawizee - 2012-11-22 13:51

    He is 18. He qualifies for jail

  • mike.reid6 - 2012-11-22 13:52

    once again people interfer with the "rights" of the child. i read messages saying expel, charge with assult, etc etc. how dare you. have you forgotten this is South Africa where you may no longer punish a child in school. The teacher is lucky she was not charged with theft for taking a cell phone away from him HOW DARE SHE? Roll on matric exams we can all celebrate if 65% of pupils pass.

  • abdul.cassiem.9 - 2012-11-22 14:11

    So n Jong moer ek rus rus dan se ek v him gaan jo Ma en pa dan moer ek v hulle oek rus rus.I guess this is t nu south Africa an future generation sad very sad

  • SMS.MOTJOTJI - 2012-11-22 15:04

    suspended 4 good nomore retarn

  • NicolaVanAss - 2012-11-22 16:09

    Expell him. Don't suspend him. Kick him out and let him go to court for assault :)

  • malcolm.stevens.129 - 2012-11-22 16:55

    I hate seeing the way discipline and general good manners have deteriorated, not only in South Africa but it's a global phenomena. I put it down to parents on the one hand, not having enough control over their kids and not instilling good morals, ethics and principles, but on the other hand to the general world system which has given too many "human rights" and "freedoms" to children. This meant that corporal punishment was banned. A good hiding works wonders - as long as it's not a beating. There is of course a line differentiating the two. Bring back the cane, bring back the whip at the police station. As for this little sod, send him to Boys Town.

  • mmoledis - 2012-11-22 16:56

    Engage his parents and if they too fail to be engaged then that child should be removed from other children as he is a poison, schools are for learning, for education and not boxing and area to show hoe bad one has been grown up at home.

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