TAU SA: Zuma land plan not feasible

2012-10-23 14:28

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma's new land reform plan is not feasible, the Transvaal Agricultural Union of SA (Tau SA) said on Tuesday.

"Overall, President Zuma's proposals are not feasible, and may even be counter-productive in terms of food security," said Tau SA president Louis Meintjes.

He was responding to a new land reform proposal made by Zuma in Pretoria on Monday, at the first annual general meeting of the African Farmers' Association of SA (Afasa).

The plan proposed a district-based approach to land reform and its financing.

‘Farmers can’t pay for land reform’

Each district should establish a district land reform committee, which would involve all stakeholders.

This committee would be responsible for identifying 20% of the commercial agricultural land in the district and for giving commercial farmers the option of assisting in its transfer to black farmers.

Meintjes said commercial farmers could not pay the cost of land reform.

"If government wants to reform, it has to provide funds for that purpose. It cannot expect... victims to help pay... for it.

"Agriculture cannot assume government’s responsibility to handle social grants. Agriculture is an economic, and not a socialistic, activity."

He said Zuma was rightly concerned about rising food prices, but this was, to a large extent, determined by supply and demand.

"Increased production can result in lower prices, but only if other prerequisites are in place, such as adequate water of good quality, as well as efficient and reliable infrastructure. These requirements are responsibilities of government."


He said Tau SA supported the idea that unused land in communal areas, including under-utilised state land, should be brought into commercial production, even if the land was under the control of central, provincial or local government institutions.

"This implies that the required land audit receives urgent attention, because it seems evident that government has no idea of the land under its control."

He said that to use production time for meetings - which would be to the detriment of landowners, by identifying their land to be sold under market value - was unethical, and created the potential for tension within communities, and for reduced food production.

"To buy land from whomever at 50% of its market value, amounts to expropriation or even nationalisation. Some properties were bequeathed from estates, which means widows and orphans will be affected."

He said the proposal that commercial farmers who participated in the project would qualify for black economic empowerment status and that their properties would be "safe" amounted to extortion.

  • kala.bafazi - 2012-10-23 14:43

    Zuma needs more funds for his Nkandla project and is calling on the commercial farmer to fund the government land redistribution project. Imagine what this will do to food prices. And who is going to be affected the most? The country's poor. Another shining example of how the government doesn't give a toss if you don't have any money.

      kala.bafazi - 2012-10-23 16:58

      There was also a story a week or two ago where land had been handed over to a group of emerging farmers. It was later found that these emerging farmers only wanted a salary but did not want to do any work. Seriously WTF!

  • don.mug.3 - 2012-10-23 14:54

    Welcome to Zimbabwe its here feel it.

  • luke.dekoker - 2012-10-23 15:01

    zuma read the wrong speech..he must have scratched in his "file 13 office" for a "prepared speech" and took malema's piece of paper by mistake?? or is he gatkryping with the ancyl??

      Andrea - 2012-10-23 15:14

      Zoema also doesn't know what the hell he is doing, trust me, he is as confused by his own speach as the rest of us.

  • Vince.York - 2012-10-23 15:13

    Have the entire previous multitude of land reform budgets been stripped and 'speared' by your crony's completely now? the zumaville dynasty is ENTITLED to reduce democracy and all land to a tribal understanding. zulu motto:- what's mine is mine and what's yours is also mine, so give me all your money and now die! Bayete! NXA

  • aj.oosthuizen.7 - 2012-10-23 15:20

    He f*&cking way.... *he said sacastically at the headline*

      aj.oosthuizen.7 - 2012-10-23 15:49

      haha, i meant *No

  • pmalungana - 2012-10-23 15:38

    It was just a prank. He was defelting attention from the labour unrest. I knew he[the president]did not mean it. There are so many promises and policies which our government find difficult to implement. Next time he says something like these just laugh it out. What can you do, in SA politics u just say anything and get relax in your luxury lounge. Imagine the party coming up with a 20 year plan, knowing very well they arent gonna be around, it sounds good yeh? I can come up with a project which will be implemented in 100 years, and people will be excited.

  • ingrid.oberholzer - 2012-10-23 15:47

    My cousin used to farm he gave his workers free houses, built a school for the children, free mealie meal, milk, meat, land to grown their product, free transport, bonus at the end of every harvest. The workers families consisted on husband and wife with two kiddies, the wifes sister came for a week end and left her two kiddies, the brother of the husband brought his three kids and left during the night. Eventually he had 10 kids to look after. How fair is that???? but the farmer did not complain guess what??? he was murdered the farm was sold and now they have to fend for themselves.

  • parys.fotograaf - 2012-10-23 16:10

    Try to imagine a form of labour imposed by force, that is not a violation of liberty; a transmission of wealth imposed by force, that is not a violation of property. If you cannot succeed in reconciling this, you are bound to conclude that the law cannot organize labour and industry without organizing injustice. Thus Zuma's policy proposal is downright sick and immoral.

  • abri.vermeulen - 2012-10-23 16:10

    It is clear that land ownership (along with many other issues) must be reformed, but why is everyone missing the real issue: 'ownership' means 'responsibility' for all the costs and difficulties of making a venture (a farm in this case ) work. The focus must be on enabling those who want take responsibility and ownership. In agriculture land is only one component so why is it getting all the focus? Focus should be growing the agricultural sector (as all other sectors) by improving sustainable access to resources. Land is only one of them, access to finances and determination to succeed are much more critical to sucess. Has the popular saying been forgotten: 'give a man a fish and he's fed for a day, teach him to fish and he's fed or life'. I am a well educated person, but if I try to farm it will be a dismal failure! What on earth will I do with a farm? lets apply the proposal to population density. It's unfair that northern capers occupy 40% of SA's land area when they are less than 2% of the population while gautengers are 30% of the population and occupy less than 10% of SA's land area. So lets move gautengers to the northern cape. why is gauteng's population continuously growing and the northern cape shrinking? Because the population measurement is irrelevant has NOTHING to do with reality, as is the % land ownership in terms of race. If we want to achieve something good, we must use the right measurements. 'But skewed land ownership was caused by apartheid'. That's only partly true (and a very small part). we really need to stop blaming apartheid for everything - did apartheid cause the norghern cape not have many people? As disgusting as it was, it's not to blame for everything and trying to address the wrong things will lead to disaster. Reality: 1. We live in the Information Age where most people are and want to be employed in the services sector (not industrial or agricultural) for which good education is needed. 2. The world is rapidly urbanising and SA is is the fastest one - good education is needed for a highly urbanized society. So what does the country need most: land reform or good education? When will we wake up to reality?

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2012-10-23 16:16

    Wonder who dreamed up the Zuma proposal? They (ANC) want their cake and eat it. Farmers are business people not idiots so please go rethink your ideas for making offers of 50% of farms market values. Mr President will you accept 50% of the market value for your private residence in KZN, if so let us know!

  • danie.smit.587 - 2012-10-23 16:28

    Its = to each and every white person that want to sell out , the government will buy and pay each one only 50% of the market value of his ground, home or business, so that the ones staying behind , may keep theirs? Idiot idea Africans second bread basket destroy? there is only water on SA South side , can South Africans all swim ?

  • bongani.nsele.58 - 2012-10-23 16:39

    food security my foot!!! the african race never worked for someone, africans never starved, the african race works together families, man women and children...people must not fear, it is time to go through the pain of standing up and taking care of business, otherwise we will never be free of that york of foreign investors and their sympathisers...right now africans are hungry and the investors and their sympathizers are looking smart with nice food on their table

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-10-23 17:02

      Have you seen zuma's table?

      stefan.erasmus.756 - 2012-10-23 21:35

      Idiot must be bad to be so stupid!!!

  • mzwandile.dlamanzi - 2012-10-23 16:52

    Does this mean the president announced something that he did not get buy in nor inputs from stratergic partners like TAU? Then something like E-tolling rings a bell!

  • mzwandile.dlamanzi - 2012-10-23 16:52

    Does this mean the president announced something that he did not get buy in nor inputs from stratergic partners like TAU? Then something like E-tolling rings a bell!

  • walter.laurie - 2012-10-23 16:56

    The Western Cape must secede!

  • DuToitCoetzee - 2012-10-23 17:01

    TAU thank you for your response. Now also go to MR. Zuma and explain to him why you disagree. As well as propose your suggestions and see if something good cant come from doing this. If both completely refuse or gov. differ too much from you, you must release your ideas to the media that we can judge for ourselves. I cannot understand that we hear every now and that the unions and gov. talk to each other, now for years, but nothing comes out. Yes, I know there was a statement before, but I suggest SAAU and TAU sits together with gov, for a final time and if agreed publish the findings. If not, publish both suggestions. Please do not just give us a broad-line idea. Give us even the small detail. Maybe we can than make suggestions and judge for ourselves. This was mend as good constructive critism. Something must get done on this issue.

  • Michael Kleber - 2012-10-23 17:04

    okay here is my solution to the land problem , if you want a farm you need to be taught how to farm once you are able to run a farm you are sold a farm which the govt has bought but you only pay back 50 % of the value from the profits made by farming , if you are unable to do this then you should not be farming and this farm is then sold to someone else again having to pay 50%

  • Bruce - 2012-10-23 17:16

    To call JZ plan 'not feasible' is too kind in my view...I would have called them 'mindless and befitting of someone with only a standard six bantu education report card.

  • rouen.heiberg - 2012-10-23 17:23

    Problem is how many of the farms will land in the hands of cadres? These clown can't even distribute textbooks on time, nevermind land. I would trust these uneducated fools to run a bath.

  • comurray - 2012-10-23 17:29

    There is another avenue that governs our local food prices that being the export market. the higher that is the higher prices we pay. Why should farmers supply locally when they make a much better return from the export market. Think about it.

  • angelene.pinfoldmammone - 2012-10-23 17:38

    Then Zoom Zoom sell your frigging Zumaville @ 50% and give it to the poor!! Whatever land you get your hands on will go to your few chosen corrupt cadres anyway - you really are a sick joker! Anyone with an iota of intelligence will tell you to go smoke some more socks!

  • mfana.sobukwe - 2012-10-23 17:42

    This is rite. It is about time dat we get what is owd to us. My ansestars was in dis country since da begining. Da whytes then came over from da US and tooken everything. I want my 5 bedroom house on my farm and da whytes should work on it while sit on my stoop. nxm

      brandon.mercer3 - 2012-10-23 17:54

      Please, educate yourself... the US?... if your going to insult me at least get my ancestry right you idiot. Oh and if you want a 5 Bedroom house GO F***in WORK FOR IT, moron

      tobydt - 2012-10-24 06:33

      How much land did your ancestors bring with them from Congo?

      ingrid.denzin - 2012-10-24 10:40

      I tink he be taken da piss.

  • steven.m.armour - 2012-10-23 18:04

    ZOOOOOOOOMMMAAAA is an ar53h0l3 and should be treated as such.

  • jackie.stone.501 - 2012-10-23 18:44

    Time to back land to people who can farm, this farmers are holding us ransom. Over pricing their product, how on earth can a 1 green paper be R20

      stefan.erasmus.756 - 2012-10-23 21:27

      Jackie you dont know what you are talking about. Farmers dont make the prices on their products.

  • Jillian Viviers Arnold - 2012-10-23 20:13

    Zimbabwean's are running to South Africa in their thousands looking for work and food after farm attacks and land grabs practically destroyed their economy. Where will South Africans run to...the sea? Who will feed and clothe the masses once sanctions are imposed????

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