Taxpayers to fund 'Zumaville'

2012-08-03 12:40

Pietermaritzburg - The government is planning a new R2bn town in President Jacob Zuma's home village of Nkandla and taxpayers will have to pick up half the tab, the Mail & Guardian reported on Friday.

Initial estimates were that the government would have to direct more than R1bn of taxpayers' money into the development.

Another R1bn would be needed from the private sector to make the project viable.

It was the brainchild of Masibambisane, a rural development organisation Zuma chairs, which the Democratic Alliance has described as a "hand-out scheme used by Zuma to curry favour".

But the department of rural development and land reform had taken up the project with apparent enthusiasm.

In July, expelled ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema accused him of building a "New York City of KwaZulu-Natal" in Nkandla.

So the "Zumaville" plans could plague the ANC leader as politicking as the party heats up in the run-up to the party's elective conference in Mangaung in December.

But Zuma's spokesperson, Mac Maharaj, described the criticism as "reckless" and "without basis in fact".

"Rural development is one of the priorities of the government and is not restricted to one area," he was quoted as saying.

The construction would transform what is a dusty backwater with basic government buildings scattered among isolated rural homesteads into tree-lined avenues and covered walkways connecting modern, architect-designed buildings, the newspaper said.

Last year, Zuma came under fire for a multimillion-rand upgrade to his homestead, which apparently included underground living quarters.

The IFP accused the president of giving Nkandla preferential treatment in government's rural development programme.

  • peter.j.cock - 2012-08-03 12:46

    WTF !!!! more of my money being wasted by the ANC

      ahenriquesfernandes - 2012-08-03 13:02

      I am SO SICK of this!!!! Money spent on rubbish to line the pockets of questionable tender companies just so the fat cat politicians can suck down more of the countries wealth well they are in power!!! Maybe first track down some of that R5 Billion before starting on an expensive half brained project!

      derick.coetzee.56 - 2012-08-03 13:07

      he really deserves it, i mean he really works hard, and he's such a likable guy, father jacob to so many, a wise man, a great speaker, he is crucial in the development of this country especially the war on poverty and HIV, rumors say that he's a great lover and respects the right of women and children everywhere, and above all he supports the boks. Right kom ons duik..

      zimbobwe.mugabe - 2012-08-03 13:20

      @msendi to show that this is not a political point scoring projects why didn't he choose winterveld or mokopane for his projects??? It has to do with politics and making sure his buddies pockets are full before he leaves office!!! - 2012-08-03 13:21

      Wake the f*%$ up Mesendi. How stupid are you?

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-03 13:22

      This is obscene in the extreme. Who is this man Zuma?

      ahenriquesfernandes - 2012-08-03 13:26

      @msendi I understand where you are coming from but I don't think you are looking that the full picture here. Why don't they use it in another area? Why must it be JZ hometown? Politicians ALWAYS have ulterior motives. JZ is in this for himslef and his friends. You might say I am being unfair to label as I have but if the track record of corruption, mis-management, and lack of delivery, are anything to go by then you can't blame me. Government has proofed they don't care after tax payers; actually they don't care about anyone in this country except their buddies. WTF happened with the text book saga? Why most those children's education suffer? In the meantime some MEC in KZN gets 2 new cars for R1.5million??? WTF???!!!! Get your house together Gov – we are fed up with this nonsense

      Badger - 2012-08-03 13:30

      Hey Msendi ??? I'm sure you and your kids live a great life, don't you ???? Why don't you ask shower head for a couple of his billions he is squandering ?????

      judith.taylor.56 - 2012-08-03 13:44

      Msendi - you can't even spell the place's name correctly

      kala.bafazi - 2012-08-03 13:51

      What ever happened to the Jet he was supposed to get???

      mantothieve.missingman - 2012-08-03 13:51

      At least they will get a school , without text books that is , and it will be burned down before next election because it wont have water !

      adrien.mcguire - 2012-08-03 13:55

      We don't need fancy... we need the basics. The money spent on some obscure rural town coud benefit many more people elsewhere ! If they were building a fancy school, I would feel a little better.

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-08-03 13:57

      SA citizens are knowingly becoming accessories to crime by funding a shady gang of confidence tricksters, fraudsters, embezzlers & petty thieves known throughout the criminal underworld as “the South African government”. According to recent estimates, around R100-billion is stolen by corrupt public officials every year, thanks largely to a massive annual heist known to government criminals as “tax season”. Every year during the ‘tax season’ heist they rake in about R350-billion of swag. When you fill in that tax return & write that cheque, you know that 30% of your money is going straight into the slush fund of some self-entitled mouth-breather with a Grade 9 education & a cousin in the Youth League. Once the loot is safely in SARS’s vaults, the “Government Gang” usually steals between 25-30% of it, depending on the current price of BMWs, the amount of patronage they need to buy from regional ANCYL commissars, & the number of political opponents they need to assassinate in Limpopo & Mpumalanga. Expect no mercy if you willingly fund organised crime – or extremely disorganised organised crime. Do the right thing. Stash your salary under your mattress & if you see anyone who works for the government, from a local councillor right up to cabinet ministers, do not approach them but rather go to a safe place, keeping your money well out of sight.

      mbambo.shi - 2012-08-03 14:00

      @ Lerato, that private sector is returning the favour for having been awarded the tender of arms deal and to deliver textbooks to Limpopo schools.

      helmut.smrz - 2012-08-03 14:05

      If you run naked around a tree at a speed of 185,999 miles per second there is a distinct possibility of f---ing yourself - or vote for the ANC to obtain the same effect. Albert Einstein.

      msendi - 2012-08-03 14:10

      @gerhard.kress.3… Why an insult from such an old man? Or you are just a teenager using the profile picture of his father… Respect yourself… please…

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-08-03 14:15

      Msedi - obviously you have never gone into a class where they were teaching economics. Yes people of Nkandla need devlopment, but the 2 bn ZAR will just be wasted. Development happens becasue there is a need - unless there are enough people, then it can be pushed by the Govenement creating a town - like they created Abuja from the ground or another example in South Korea next to the Grand Prix Race track. There the population is large enough and has money enough to sustain the town once built. Inkandla - it will just be a white elephant. I do not blame JZ to think like this, he never went to School, so he cannot link certain things - excuse him. The private people - its expediency, it makes buiness sence, but leave our money alone - pay for the e-toll bill instead.!

      msendi - 2012-08-03 14:24

      @nosiphom.mazibuko… Mwelase… I also don't think that Zuma woke up and decided to build, what some call it a town. I don't think that economists were not consulted in the process… I also don't think that we always have to agree in opinions, but lets wait and see…

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-08-03 14:29

      Msedi - as to whether he woke up and decided - I have inside information where he equates rural development to building malls in rural areas without due consuderation that non-one will buy from those Malls. He never consults - remember he can't read, let alone analyse! We may never agree there you may be right, but the truth is you will witness fro yourself that there will be no devlopment, as the people will not have the money required to sustain the town. there are many similar artificisl projects created by the boers to try to force people to stsy in the homelands - all those artificial developments are skeletons now - even Babalegi is suffering - becasue it is artificial - not driven by need.

      trav.seeker - 2012-08-03 15:02

      @lerato.kay.3 - "If we want to be really objective, the fact that the private sector is willing to incur 50% of the costs suggests that the project is viable! There is no way the private sector will splash a billion rands just for the sake of it." Don't know where you got your education (if indeed you got any) but please re-read the article before commenting and making a fool of yourself as usual. I'll make it easy for you - Third paragraph from the top: "Another R1bn would be needed from the private sector to make the project viable." Nowhere does it say that the private sector is willing to incur the 50% costs.

      lerato.kay.3 - 2012-08-03 15:16

      @trav.seeker If you are an educated guy as you suggest and follow PUT and PLS on the stock exchange you would have realised that at least 3 companies registered on the JSE are willing to partner the government in this deal. Funny enough you rush to use titles like fools but I can clearly see you know nothing when it comes to finance. As for me am very well read I have the maximum NQF our country has to offer so I guess I don’t have to state my highest qualification. Take time to look at 3 of the property stocks read their financial statement and you will pick this anticipated project. A bit of research before you comment can do you good. You must know that usually such massive developments will only get to the media when much ground work has been done, I can even tell you consultants who did the groundwork, none of them are BEE by the way!

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-03 15:34

      We are dealing with a criminal government here. Endemic government sanctioned kleptocracy.

      mholthuysen - 2012-08-03 16:12

      @ Msendi - how much is going to be wasted on backhands, tender irregularities, Zuma's own pocket, his lapdogs Mac's pockets and how much will eventually benefit the people of Nkandla... Just recalling Limpopo, Eastern Cape, Gauteng irregularities; eThekweni's books in shambles and the list goes on and on and on and on and on.... Another day in cANCer Corruption Nepotism Gravy Day

      gail.hayesbean - 2012-08-03 17:12

      @msendi. Could you enlighten me as to where exactly in KZN Inkandla is situated? North, South of Durban? I really have no idea where it is and would appreciate your input on this. Are there access roads etc there or will those have to be built? Who is currently the owner of the land where this Zumaville is to be built and will anyone be allowed to live there? In principle I do not mind empowering people in rural areas but it does kind of remind me of the apartheid policies of selecting an area out of a hat and developing it with toilets and factories etc a la Dimbaza which turned out to be a huge white elephant. What would make this Zumaville sustainable in the long term if at all? Sugar farming, proximity to factories or a large railway junction or what? These are the sort of things which attract people because unless they can earn good money there this will become just another white elephant. Is it an area which tourists will be attracted to from all over the world and what exactly is the attraction other than for people who practise polygamy? Urban developments usually arise for a significant reason and they will not work unless there is a very strong magnetic reason to attract industry there. Bisho is a case in point. A fortune was spent in that area during apartheid years but it never took with people and most of the buildings are in dire disrepair today. ?

      victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-03 18:06

      Detractors say build new infrastructure....So we do and look at the comments once it is being accomplished. This is the tune here in RSA, Seems some are never happy in their nasty lives. The prophecy of failure in a Black ruled RSA is null & Void, Assimilate or leave. As for you Peter, You don't understand what spume has driveled onto your Keyboard....Your money ( Tax is the Government funds to run this country )......Wasted, Since when is building homes for the rural dwellers wasteful. Use you head before posting shyte.

      phuti.hlabane - 2012-08-03 22:21

      What is new?this government is corrupt but hey DA is not the answer cos they r 4 white folks.

      Vince.York - 2012-08-04 01:26

      Can zuma spell "megalomaniac" and "Grandiose delusions"? Does zuma know he is out of touch with reality? Does zuma know who "John Galt" is?

      mihaip007 - 2012-08-04 02:39

      This 2bn rands look very much suspiciously the same amount he was going to use for the plane! His royal spearness is now really looking for it from us! Ultimately the tax payer's edge is getting pushed closer and closer to an edge until there is no more room for us to move! I have seen it with the revolution in my country! I have seen the arab spring, now Zuma will also see something if he doesn't watch out...

      ian.flack2 - 2012-08-04 08:40

      "the department of rural development and land reform had taken up the project with apparent enthusiasm". This is the same department with one of the most dubious spending, isn't it?

      alf.pop - 2012-08-04 17:24

      Of course we fund Zumaville! Zipper Zuma has no idea how to handle money, that is why he wantedto become president! We foot the bill for his children and his Sumo Wrestler harem! Get6 rid of him and stop the suppoert for him and his family. All of a sudden you will see a family slim and trim, because he is not capable of providing for them!

      Genet - 2012-08-05 11:26

      Well, then, if this is going to happen, then all the shack dwellers in the country must move to Zumaville, and get their services and jobs up there.

      daniel.jacobs.3766 - 2012-08-06 09:33

      That'll be a frosty freakin Friday!

  • Sonnyjakes - 2012-08-03 12:51

    Nkandla MAFIA!!!!!!!111111

      wbschorn - 2012-08-03 13:47

      IF the 2Bil was spent properly then yes...but we prob gonna get some tenders, bribes...and some poorly built developments. eish

      celtis.africana - 2012-08-03 14:04

      I guess all the houses will have room for at least 4 wifes and 4 showers. Zumaville or Zumaland or Disneyland.

      clifford.sithole.5 - 2012-08-03 14:34

      Syria , Egypt , Libya here we come...........

  • joyce.kweyama - 2012-08-03 12:53


      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-08-03 13:03

      Joyce : We do not have time for this nonsense. We have many places to go to in this world. There are many hotels we have not yet visited. There are some of us who still have less than R500m in our bank accounts. Less than 3/4 of us have properties abroad. Our glorious ANC has not yet tasted all the luxuries and pleasures of this world. There is still so much to do. Please tell those peasants that they must be thankful for the water in the toilets and stop bothering us with such menial things. They must just remember to vote for us.

      Cavefacio - 2012-08-03 13:25

      Joyce, this is the same man that supposedly lies awake at night thinking (instead of doing something), about poverty, education etc. Building anything for him cannot be morally justified and tells me he is not in the Mother Theresa league if he approves. Or just maybe he is preparing for a bad outcome later this year in Mangaung? Either way he is so far removed from reality that he cannot conceive washing cups in toilets. Neither can he understand poor roads as he flies everywhere. (Busy, busy busy). The concept of greatest good for the greatest number was not included in his education. This country now has as much reason to cry as pre-94. And yes! the impact of the apartheid then and the current poverty, corruption, unemployment, education etc etc is starting to equalize, despite all the "triumphs" during the past 18 years. Should the ANC perhaps start understanding that even scrapping AA/BBBEE will still not provide enough SKILLED manpower to sort the THE ROADS PUBLIC TRANSPORT THE CRUMBLING GOVT OFFICES WHERE STAFF HAVE TO WASH CUPS IN TOILETS... sic, as you so eloquently put it. (I share your anger, helplessness and frustration). All which is a far cry (pun?) from a Zumaville...

      Msika - 2012-08-03 13:25

      Bwahahahahaha!! Dude you cracked me, @maseratifittipaldi. Joyce you heard the man, tell them to keep those votes comming.

      sheralee.jones - 2012-08-03 14:20

      Please make sure your vote counts in the next election. You can voice your opinion there and make a difference to SA at the same time.

      luke.dekoker - 2012-08-04 11:56

      joyce you are right, just vote RIGHT (DA) the next time.. @maseratifittipaldi, I see you have a lot of thumbs up?? I hope by your statement "They must just remember to vote for us" means DA.

  • nicolas.gombert.16 - 2012-08-03 12:53

    No money for education? No wonder! Rural development: that is surely ALL rural areas and not THIS one chosen by JZ!

      Junebugg - 2012-08-03 14:04

      KZN New York city smh

      Poloyatonki - 2012-08-04 10:40

      Money well spent...

  • veronica.prinsloo1 - 2012-08-03 12:55

    Dear President please donate this R2Billion to the education department surely we need this money more than a villa for your hometown wat a disgrace and fatal money spending or are you prepare this place for your retirement next year

      carla.vittori3 - 2012-08-03 13:20

      Are you sure you want that money to be placed in the control of Angie?

  • irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-08-03 12:56

    I think it's time we all stopped paying tax.

      aarchaic - 2012-08-03 13:03

      If only it was that easy... You pay tax when you get paid your Salery You pay tax to put petrol in your car you pay tax to buy food And shortly it looks like E-toll will be back... then Sars comes and says you need to pay this and that...

      justin.massyn - 2012-08-03 13:05

      I am with you, and i think there are many many more out there that feel the same way. They might need votes to stay in power but without money to squander it wont be much fun for the greedy parasites.

      mantothieve.missingman - 2012-08-03 13:20

      Its long passed that time

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-08-03 14:09

      As far as we can tell there’s a front operation, fairly legit, they’ve got offices and everything. There’s a big blue sign over the door that says ‘SARS’, and every year during the ‘tax season’ heist they rake in about R350-billion. - 2012-08-03 15:20

      ...You pay tax when you get paid your Salery You pay tax to put petrol in your car you pay tax to buy food And shortly it looks like E-toll will be back... then Sars comes and says you need to pay this and that... " ONLY if you remain in SA - soon Gordham and Zuma can kiss my bucks goodbye...

      victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-04 18:02

      Please stop paying tax , I need more homes for Auction...

  • thebe.tau - 2012-08-03 12:58

    Guess what? All the ANC comrades will approve of this because they also want their stealing to be overlooked,sies man.

  • TSR01 - 2012-08-03 12:58

    No, I refuse to accept this! It is an unconstitutional waste of money earmarked to UPHOLD the constitution by providing basic services, housing, education and quality of life! DOWN WITH THE ANC!! GREEDY MONEY HUNGRY PIGS!! VOTE FOR CHANGE!!!

  • alan.cargen - 2012-08-03 12:59

    So.. Instead of spending R2 billion on a new jet, they've decided to spend the same R2billion on a new house.

  • busani.mabunda - 2012-08-03 13:00

    No text books please....Just Zumaville ..nxa NXA NXA!!

      msendi - 2012-08-03 13:44

      There is no problem of textbooks in KZN, blame Limpompo for that…

      peter.jeffrey.581 - 2012-08-03 14:47

      msendi - Please dude educate yourself what kind of response is that? Do you know how government works? Basic education as a whole is falling apart are you too blind to see this? oh wait do you live in Nkandla?

      victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-04 18:04

      This one has turned..............rotten , Throw that away...hehehhee

  • lynn.syme.1 - 2012-08-03 13:05

    How lovely. But there is no money for BASIC education! WTF is going on here?

  • michael.bushes - 2012-08-03 13:06

    haaaaaaaaaa hahahaha Thats why I kick back with a cold one and laugh my backside off when they burn tyres for lack of services. I dont feel sorry for them anymore Go to Hell !!!

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-08-03 13:13


      geraldsebanda - 2012-08-03 13:20

      I agree with you Michael. And soon you will be able to have a cold one in a fancy sports bar in Zumaville and watch the ungrateful peasants burn tyres outside.

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-08-03 14:43


  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-08-03 13:07

    Another BIG tender scam!!! They really do have active imaginations when thinking up new ways to procure tenders! Keep the population "dumb" by failing to provide basic education,then scamming is easy!

  • mart.botha - 2012-08-03 13:07

    This is exactly the kind of talk that could spark a civil war. The fight for freedom in this country may only now be beginning !

      michael.bushes - 2012-08-03 13:10

      Race relations between coloureds and whites are way better relative to black-white south africans, and what ever animosity exists between us will be dissolved as we prepare to fight our way to freedom together, in the cape province, against a common, destructive and greedy enemy.

  • sisie.indola - 2012-08-03 13:09

    I wonder if this was sanctioned by King Goodwill - he won't be pleased to have another "king" pissing in his pot.

  • geraldsebanda - 2012-08-03 13:10

    A commercial metropolis for starving, sick and uneducated people.... and this is a Brainchild!

      msendi - 2012-08-03 13:24

      Last time you checked, they were uneducated. Visit those places, maybe you will have positive stories to tell…

      geraldsebanda - 2012-08-03 13:32

      I hope you are right msendi but if its anything like Transkei where I am then its a tall order

      kirsten.aird - 2012-08-03 13:50

      Msendi - have you even been there?? I have as an architect doing a small factory and let me enlighten you on Nkandla - not Inknadla by the by: - there are 4 chiefs in the area who squabble bitterly every single time there is a hole to be dug over which cousin will do the work. - JZ's "home" is a typical mugabe type mansion surrounded by old, delapidated mud rondawels - almost none with running water or electricity. - as for educated people - well YOU go see for yourself and report back to us all. Sorry for the wake up call!

      msendi - 2012-08-03 14:02

      @kirsten.aird… Thanks for the enlightenment… But what I know is that some rural people, including Inkandla are now taking education very serious. We cannot just say they don't deserve any form of development because they are starving and uneducated.

      kirsten.aird - 2012-08-03 14:16

      Damn right Msendi - the rural areas are where we most need education - and they are truly desperate for it - but believe me that R2bn development does not have "the peoples" ideals in mind - it is a purely self-serving capitalist venture. Give me 10% of that R2bn and I'll build 10 schools - stock them with furniture and books and pay full wages to the teachers for 2 years - do you really think that this proposed Zumaville will provide such? I honestly wish it would - but maybe i just got my reality cap on today. But again I agree with you that education and services should take priority over single family mansions and bunkers.

      victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-04 18:05

      Bitterness in your voice is unavoidable.....Bitter lil' Lime.

  • UNITY - 2012-08-03 13:10

    Oh no... Zuma must go!

  • sekwati.robinson - 2012-08-03 13:10

    ''a brainchild of masibambisane for which showerhead chairs'' geeeeez this clown of a president is freaken unbelievable...1st it was the multimillion upgrade of zoo village and now he's going to take our money'again' without our concern and build a bigger zoo for his many wives and kids...

  • sizwe.nyembe - 2012-08-03 13:11

    I live in Bushbuckridge, my foreparents are from the rural outskirts of KZN. I have neva been to KZN, I only see Inkandla on TV. Those people need this development.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-08-03 13:30

      Our children need books so that they can get an education and make something of themselves, but they can't now since the funds are being used for this town. Im sure they need help, but i think the children are more important.

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-08-03 14:21

      Those people need condoms! Now if he was serious about development he would build a hospital and HIV/education facility. Perhaps an orphanage for all those aids orphans?

      victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-04 18:07

      Of- course they do, Detractors can't stand the fact of Rural development and that the real majority are now afforded proper infrastructure. The bitterness is inescapable.

  • roftyleroux - 2012-08-03 13:11

    I can't wait to see Zumaville burned to the ground by hungry, unemployed, homeless citizens. You ANC-voting idiots! If I hear "Apartheid's Fault" one more time I am going puke on our national flag.

      victor.tamaranui - 2012-08-04 18:08

      Prime ol' Detractor. Hoping for failure of this country, Yous can never hide your spots ....hey Oom ??

  • sizwe.nyembe - 2012-08-03 13:11

    I live in Bushbuckridge, my foreparents are from the rural outskirts of KZN. I have neva been to KZN, I only see Inkandla on TV. Those people need this development.

  • claudia.petersen.3958 - 2012-08-03 13:11

    Almost like the Sims Game "Zumaville", also cheat the (system) to get loads of 'money' to WASTE AND SPEND on things not necessary. Get REAL Zuma & co!

  • EthanDade - 2012-08-03 13:12

    South Africa's very own version of Disney Land.

      derick.coetzee.56 - 2012-08-03 13:21

      hahahahaha that sounds awesome!!

      Odicito - 2012-08-03 15:23

      janine, so people will ride 'The spear'?

      luke.dekoker - 2012-08-04 12:11

      odicito.. they will get the big H or will a Shower do?

  • ally.oh.7 - 2012-08-03 13:15

    Good!! and then all the land invaders in Western Cape can be sent immediately to this new development so they can toyi-toyi for services to their hearts' content and ultimately live in luxury in Zuma's backyard.

      msendi - 2012-08-03 13:17

      You really hate those people…

      william.letsong.5 - 2012-08-03 14:05

      Yes msendi, they came from the Eastern Cape, invade private land and than they threat to make the city and province ungovernable. Why didn't they do it where they come from? Bloody stupid idiots they are just like you, you fool (taken from your comments here).

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-04 10:54

      Msendi, so far your arguments held water. By coming out with a lame statement like 'you really hate those people' you are lackingin maturity. No one hates no one, just let everyone have the same responsibility for his/her life and for goodness sake stop demanding without doing anything for themselves.Playing the victim is not going to help anyone, including your victims.

      luke.dekoker - 2012-08-04 12:12

      msendi, we do not hate "those people" we just dislike your anc crooks.

  • Watkykj - 2012-08-03 13:16

    And yet \ basic education not possible now\ due to budgetary constraints........eish..... It was annoying but now its just entertaining seeing the government make such fools of the masses!

      wo0two0t - 2012-08-03 13:52

      how stupid can one get?

  • anri.tredoux - 2012-08-03 13:16

    I'm done with this country.. Why don't you just take the clothes from my back and shove your country up your ass!!!!!!!

      derick.coetzee.56 - 2012-08-03 13:20

      amen brother

      Frank - 2012-08-05 12:04

      entering the green card lottery right after this...

  • mantothieve.missingman - 2012-08-03 13:19

    Why would all these anc "leaders" build under ground living cabins ? They see the writing on the wall ?

      raath - 2012-08-03 13:34

      Sadam also had those, and it didn't help. - 2012-08-03 15:25

      They didnt consider that petrol runs DOWNhill and always seeks the lowest point to form pools...

  • darryl.maze1 - 2012-08-03 13:20

    Why am I not surprized. This is just the everyday way of the ANC at how to waste money. They are the oly party that believes money grows on trees. Zuma and all the corrupt ANC ministers are just gonna keep wasting our money for there on happiness. A refurbished house for the president is more important than building more RDP houses, a plane is more important than building new schools, the president and all his ministers 12% salary increse is more important than a civilservices little 6% salary increase. But what does the ANC care, so long as they are in power, have big fancy cars, planes and houses and there brainwashed members keep voting for them in power well thats where the taxpayers money is gonna go.

      wo0two0t - 2012-08-03 13:54

      The scary thing is that its all true.

  • ofentse.thole - 2012-08-03 13:21

    and yet 'Basic education not possible now' sigh cANCer

  • bleskido - 2012-08-03 13:22

    gat this moron cant rest until SA is the next zimbabwe,hes an opportunist hu hve best skills of manipulation.ppl hu wil vote him for 2nd term will be the worst fools eva

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-08-03 13:36

      Anyone who votes for cANCer regardless of who the leader is, is a fool.

  • Michael - 2012-08-03 13:23

    what is the problem here? if you dont support this innitiative, you are actualy saying rural area must remain under developed. Why? Verwoerd ensured better future and development for all his people,if you dont live in rural area just keep quite and go home,its Friday. You dont know what it means to travell kilometers to go buy groceries.

      antoinette.jordaan - 2012-08-04 08:49

      No, we are not saying that. It's just that they want to put 2 billion rand to build something that is not needed. Education is needed, but we don't have money for that. If the people gets education, they can get a better job than scrubbing floors. Then they can contribute to the tax base, which then gives more money to the government to do developments like this - IN DUE COURSE. You cannot FORCE the've got to BUILD the future from the ground up........EDUCATION. That little basic thing.....

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-04 10:56

      Michael, rural people need development not a shopping mall.

  • maokeng.mankge - 2012-08-03 13:24

    Lol now d criminal has proved wht h is capable of tnx 2 Malema 4 willing 2 die 4 hm..W r left wth a real prblm.Whr is Cosatu hv dey been bribed nt 2 say a thing ¤dis project nid 2 stop immediately

      raath - 2012-08-03 13:27

      *the *what *he *thanks *to *for *him *We *are *problem *Where *have *they *not *to *this *needs *to This isn't Mxit, it's a public forum. Grown-up words please.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-08-03 13:37

      WTF? Did you go to school or are you talking chinese?

      daleen.prinsloo - 2012-08-03 13:53

      ok, lets give it a shot... Lol now dead criminals have proved that they are capable of thanking Malema's will, dying 2 times just before 4am. So why are we left with a real problem? Why is Cosatu being bribed to stay for 2 nights in Zumaville if he doesn't stop immediately! ... think I got it?

      luke.dekoker - 2012-08-04 12:22

      maokeng, you are right (SMS lingo in all). Seepferchen, thanks for the correct interpretation..this makes a lot of sense.

  • fanie.gerber1972 - 2012-08-03 13:24

    OK no new aircraft, so lets waste it somewhere else

      sekwati.robinson - 2012-08-03 13:34

      lol Fanie just hold on....more is to come....we are going to build a run way for his plane after the completion of zoo town....the plane is still on the cards,just you wait and see....

      antoinette.jordaan - 2012-08-04 08:50

      Sekwati.....thx for that giggle!

  • luvo.luvos - 2012-08-03 13:25

    If this report is true then lo and behold! Anyone who ever thought the ANC were to serve selflessly they are to fall flatfaced.

  • monique.jackson0 - 2012-08-03 13:26

    I am so excited to give Zuma more money! Where does one sign up???????

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-08-03 13:26

    I just feel so sorry for the millions upon millions of brainwashed Votas.

      raath - 2012-08-03 13:31

      Edit: Millions upon millions sick, homeless, hungry, service-and-infrastructure-less brainwashed voters

  • SteVmphO - 2012-08-03 13:26

    for real about inoocent,hard-working citizens we dnt submit our tax-returns to SARS this season..coz anyway our dear public servants chawed R%bn, nw they want R2bn

  • deon.joubert.777 - 2012-08-03 13:27

    Any of the readers that was born back when basic things such as reading, the ability to make sums in your head without it going into shutdown mode, and basic respect and decency was not something you had to look up in Wikipedia, will recognize the following term:"Bread and Circuses" - I quote from Wiki : "is a metaphor for a superficial means of appeasement. Juvenal decried it as a simplistic motivation of common people and hence the political strategy implied.[1] In the case of politics, the phrase is used to describe the creation of public approval, not through exemplary or excellent public service or public policy, but through diversion, distraction, and/or the mere satisfaction of the immediate, shallow requirements of a populace". This rather admirably describes the present political environment, and yet the raping and pillaging of our hard-won shekels continue......

  • fanie.gerber1972 - 2012-08-03 13:27

    Thuli Mandonsela...Over here please, he is at it again

  • kevin.pitzer - 2012-08-03 13:29

    2 billion for this and 2 billion for that and while you not looking a slip 5 billion for this and that ....But we dont have money for kids basic education or even pajamas in the hospitals....

      raath - 2012-08-03 13:32

      And they keep whining about SANRAL's debt...

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-08-03 13:30

    Oooooooh , this is what Juju was referring to as " The nu york cidiiii of Nkandla". I'll rather support e-tolling , not this lost city in the sticks of Nkandla

  • obakeng.molobi.75 - 2012-08-03 13:30

    No money 4 education but there's money 4 Angie's weave, billions for Zuma's kraal and jet...another billions for a 'theme park'? What about other villages that are still struggling with basics? God, please help!

  • harald.voney - 2012-08-03 13:30

    insanity rules....

  • Msika - 2012-08-03 13:31

    Charity begins at home, right?

  • wisani.mathonsi1 - 2012-08-03 13:31

    First it was the proposed R2bn vip jet now he wants to change nkandla into a village? Come on now, we are being held hostage now, no this man must go. He does not know where his priorities should lie... God save us from thim man Who think we owe him. He is not a good leader, he is not a good leader.

      geraldsebanda - 2012-08-03 13:38

      are you suggesting that he may have access to R2bn tax money that needs to be shared among himselves

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-08-03 13:39

      Don't blame Zooomer alone. cANCer as a ruling party is not a good party, but unfortunately you're all too brainwashed and ignorant to realise it.

  • mlamli.tshaka.7 - 2012-08-03 13:33

    We often hear people telling others to build their own because this and that was built by prev regime. Now when Zuma is doing just that they are still complaining ha ha ha ha ha lol.

      wo0two0t - 2012-08-03 14:09

      mlamli what is 1+1?

  • bonolo.b.dikgole - 2012-08-03 13:33

    What the HELL is wrong with this man???????? I'm starting to think that his shower head is not okay!!!!!!

      hannes.boshoff.92 - 2012-08-03 16:12

      ...and he is smoking yesterdays left over carpet glue..

  • jane.naidoo.37 - 2012-08-03 13:33

    What a shame!!! How many homes will R2bn build for the poor living in shackes??? Imagine a South Africa with no informal settlements...It is possible if our politicians stop lining their pockets and think of the poor for once.

  • thulani.b.kiviet - 2012-08-03 13:36

    Yah well, it's part of rural development which I am in favor of. I have a lot of family in the rural areas and I know what the living conditions are like there. So it's easy to disagree with this sort of development if u have never been there. People from the rural areas to have the right to the privilages that people in cities have. And it wud be great for job creation. I just think maybe it's a conflict of interests that it's being done in Zuma's hometown while he is still president of RSA.

      margaret.brand.12 - 2012-08-03 13:47

      and so do many others have the right to housing in their areas..... why only in Zuma's homelands??????????

      thulani.b.kiviet - 2012-08-03 14:00

      Look, I'm a proud south african and I love this country as well as the people who live in it. If R2bn is going to go towards improving the lives of 5ook to 1mill disadvantaged south africans, I'm all for that, regardless of whether it's in Zuma's homeland or anywhere else. This aryicle is so sensationalised it's not even funny. From the heading itself. Like really

      william.letsong.5 - 2012-08-03 14:21

      Idiot, do you have to repeat yourself?

      kent.paulsen.79 - 2012-08-03 17:15

      Zuma's village, occupancy is 160,000 people.

      antoinette.jordaan - 2012-08-04 08:53

      Again, we're all in favour of it, but you don't start by building a city for people who actually want basic roads, water, electricity and schools. Build what is needed, and the rest will flow naturally....that's how it works. It just sounds like he's building a city around his retirement make his life easier, not really for the people in Nkandla.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-04 11:01

      Thulani, people in rural areas needs homes, jobs, schools, roads, water, electric power, sanitation and everything else we take for granted. How could they enjoy you big city without this stuff?. Where will the money come from to spend at the mall?.

  • obakeng.molobi.75 - 2012-08-03 13:36

    Prince Mashele wrote; The Worst Shall Govern, and he was attacked. I wonder what are those people saying now.

      morton.christie - 2012-08-04 02:34

      If you are black and speak against them, you are a counter or anti revolutionary or a DA supporter or a coconut, if you are white you are a racist. if you leave them to join another party you are killed, remember Sifiso Nkhbinde from Richmond who left to join the UDM? just to mention one example. yet they call the IFP the warlords!!! who started MK and who carried out the necklace killings, the IFP??? funny there are anc offices in Zululand, yet the IFP may not open offices in the Eastern Cape.