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Teary-eyed Oscar Pistorius leaves court

2013-02-15 13:00

Pretoria - Oscar Pistorius's murder case was postponed to 19 February in the Pretoria Magistrate's Court, after a highly charged first appearance on Friday.

He will stay in police custody at the Brooklyn police station until his appearance on Tuesday.

With jaws clenched, Pistorius heard the State intended pursuing a case of pre-meditated murder against him, following the shooting of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp at his home on Valentine's Day.

"Is the State's argument pre-meditated murder?" asked magistrate Desmond Nair.

"Yes," said prosecutor advocate Gerrie Nel.

Charges

The postponement was granted to allow the defence time for further preparation, and to properly categorise the charge against him in terms of the Criminal Procedure Act (CPA).

The celebrity paralympian walked into the packed courtroom wearing a dark suit, and began crying when Nair greeted him. Nair asked him to be calm and he sat down.

He is expected to bring a bail application next week.

There is also expected to be clarity on whether the crime he is charged with falls under Sections five or six of the CPA.

In terms of Section five, dealing with "serious" offences, the accused may only be granted bail if he produces evidence to satisfy the court that the interests of justice permit the release.

Section six deals with "extremely serious" crime and requires exceptional circumstances for bail to be granted.

As Pistorius walked out of the dock, his father Henke reached out to him.

Pistorius just walked on, teary-eyed.

Comments
  • conway.reynolds - 2013-02-15 13:13

    My heart and sympathy goes out to Oscar. Love is a funny thing. Jealousy and frustration plays havoc with the human mind. The deed committed was out of charactor. I would not be surprised if he dies of a broken heart before the trial God, bless and guide him in these hours of need.

      Anton Dekker - 2013-02-15 13:27

      Why doesn't your heart go out to Reeva Steenkamp and her family. Our celebrity obsession is superseding our humanity! A young innocent girl has died, and you are obsessed about the one who caused her death! Innocent or guilty is not the point as yet, but the death of an innocent victim is the point!

      Flippncool - 2013-02-15 13:28

      You feel sorry for him but don't even mention Reeva's family? Whether intentional or not, he still pulled the trigger.

      shelly.britz - 2013-02-15 13:30

      Conway do you personally know Oscar? If yes then your statement that he reacted out of character may be true, if you only know about him like most of us commenting here as a public figure then your statement is made out of your admiration for a man that has really done well in his sporting but nobody really knows the man privately and there for can not just start making excuses for his horrible deed. Murder is murder whether you are unknown and poor or rich and known all over the world. No matter how jealous a person gets you do not have the right to take a life.

      clint.henry.965 - 2013-02-15 13:37

      What about the lady, my heart goes out to her father if this was my daughter he would've by already have no arms as well. His previous behaviour has to count against him.I believe it was crazy accident.He lived his life like a Macho man trying to making up for his disability (Gun Crazy) poor people's family what a nightmare

      alexa.hoffmann.9 - 2013-02-15 14:27

      Why are you assuming jealousy and frustration had anything to do with this?? Stop assuming people.. we need to wait for the full story

      john.silver.3572846 - 2013-02-15 16:39

      I feel - F-ALL for him. Men who cannot cannot handle their jealousy to the point of killing their partner deserve a life of prison. Last week the SAME thing happened in Bredasdorp and all you people wanted to hang and castrate. There is no difference here. NONE>

  • Nazo2010 - 2013-02-15 13:13

    Oscar, must go to jail finish and klaar!

      Jesus - 2013-02-15 14:50

      That's not a nice thing to say

  • carol.otto.94 - 2013-02-15 13:13

    Gee Oscar you had it all what could have been so bad that you had to shoot her 4 times even if you did think that it was an intruder wow 4 shots is a bit excessive don’t you think

      ohbizz.chabata - 2013-02-15 13:35

      @ Adrian and you would be spending this very weekend in Jail if not for an even longer time. You see the law cares less of what you thought but rather what the truth in fact was

      dmitri.dumas.9 - 2013-02-15 13:36

      @adrian - that is overkill. By your comment I know that you have been spared been woken up at night by intruders. I hope it never happens to you.

      xboxs.guru - 2013-02-15 13:37

      adrian.strydom - Then you shouldn't own a gun because you can't think responsibly. The first thing they teach you about guns is self control,fire a warning shot first. Oscar was thirsty blood ,intruder or no intruder.He aimed and fired with intent to do grave harm.

      jayson.wolhuter - 2013-02-15 13:38

      Learn to use reading signs...

      clint.henry.965 - 2013-02-15 13:40

      4 shots = 3 seconds Criminals normally comes into people's homes at that time. They say its the time your mind is in limbo. It actually happened to me, they came in 3:30 almost shat myself.One does not think straight your mind makes you do crazy things. ----Other than that we don't know what actually happned

      CelesteH - 2013-02-15 13:57

      uhm excuse me, he couldnt have thought she was an intruder. Security cams show she was there the entire night. Security was called out 2 hours earlier after disruptions in the house were reported. He knew she was there! No mistaken identity here, no need to question and answer whether to fire warning shots or not. You dont have to be a sherlock holmes to use just the few FACTS that have been released to build a picture. This has nothing to do with intruders and protecting your home dammit.

      adrian.strydom - 2013-02-15 14:23

      dmitri.dumas.9.....like most people on here your assumptions are totally incorrect. I have been woken at night by intruders in my house, who proceeded to steal very valuable equipment of mine. My wife and I hid in our bedroom, and my son in his room, while I tried to call the police. Note the word 'tried.' Thankfully, they were more interested in a quick getaway. I have also had a gun held at my head by a hijacker, while his buddy held my son on the ground with a gun to his head. Ever felt totally helpless and terrified ? I have ! Until you have been in that situation don't preach to others whose own experiences you have no knowledge of. Just think for a moment and put yourself in Oscar's position. You're lying in bed, all alone, at 3am in the morning, and you become aware that there is someone in your house when you don't expect there to be anyone there. You HAVE NO LEGS ! Getting up and investigating is NOT an option like normal able-bodied people have. You do, however, for protection, have a gun at your bedside. What would you do ? Just a thought. I don't know if this is a true scenario or not, but for goodness sake people, stop speculating, condemning, demanding the death penalty etc until the facts are disclosed.

  • poshm.mis - 2013-02-15 13:14

    eish if only..... but, then again actions cannot be reversed.

  • kortbroek.duplessis - 2013-02-15 13:14

    Well Oscar you do the crime you gotta do the time. Just be thankfull the death penalty isn't around. What a shame, what a waste......

      jayson.wolhuter - 2013-02-15 13:29

      Korny!

      thando.gqabaza - 2013-02-15 15:07

      If the death penalty was around , would people want it implemented here ? That's an interesting question

  • donald.dykman - 2013-02-15 13:16

    This story is getting boring now twitter and social media way to slow, should have tried and sentenced robocop by now.

  • frankgerald - 2013-02-15 13:19

    Don't play with fire because it can results in serious irrepairable damage to your self and others. I really feel sorry and sad for all concern especailly the families of the young lady whose life which was cut short unnecessary.

  • artur.winiecki.1 - 2013-02-15 13:19

    I would also cry knowing that my as i know it is over, just cause i could not keep my temper in check thinking i would be above those lowly normal people.

  • prada.ledger - 2013-02-15 13:20

    2 ppl were at the residence, 1 was shot 1 shot the other, Oscar is the shooter, he admitted that, he just didnt say why. whether the court find him guilt or not he took a life, he is the one that did it.

  • Hansie.Crook - 2013-02-15 13:22

    In similar cases like this, you will find "rape, women abuse" organisations protesting around the court and opposing bail for the accused. Were they present during Oscar's court proceedings? Where were they?

      Gruntus Maximus - 2013-02-15 13:38

      They were........not needed.

      clint.henry.965 - 2013-02-15 13:41

      Nobody know's what happened yet. Hearsay Could've been a ma se accident

      Hansie.Crook - 2013-02-15 13:43

      Gruntus, why were they not needed? is this not domestic violence against a woman by a person not a stranger to domestic violence?

  • dekkeranton - 2013-02-15 13:22

    Roscoe 'Fatty' Arbuckle, Gig Young, Paul Kelly, Sid Vicious, O.J.Simpson, Rae Carruth, Phill Spector, Robert Blake and now Oscar Pistorius! Is it possible? Is that the list of names his name belongs to? Who knows? Time will tell!

      ClassWarTrotsky - 2013-02-15 13:50

      RIP Sid Vicious.

  • nicholas.fermor - 2013-02-15 13:23

    wait for the evidence before assuming he's guilty

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2013-02-15 13:28

      . I don't get it!! WHAT MORE you want to know ????

  • fnxusani - 2013-02-15 13:27

    may be he is innocent the girlfriend intrude with the aims of suprising him on a valentines day.

      ClassWarTrotsky - 2013-02-15 13:50

      Apply logic, Comrade.

      CelesteH - 2013-02-15 14:00

      She was there the whole night Sherlock!

      mdluli.vusi - 2013-02-15 14:07

      The police were called @1am they were having an argument then @ 3am for gun shots.

  • jayson.wolhuter - 2013-02-15 13:27

    Moron or Murderer?

  • NicolasGombert - 2013-02-15 13:28

    From macho man to crying baby in 24 hours. I'm not pre-judging Oscar, but to everyone out there: for every action, there is a consequence, if not now, then later, but don't play the poor victim if you've done something wrong.

  • estee.mente - 2013-02-15 13:28

    clearly Oscar did something wrong that morning, I'm just surprised by the attitude of commentators here, whom all of the sudden have realised that people are actually innocent until proven guilty, something I have not seen on news 24 in a while. All those who are saying Oscar is innocent until proven otherwise, do take time to apply the same principle when news 24, reports other crimes...or is it just a case of love for Oscar.

      ohbizz.chabata - 2013-02-15 13:41

      Been thinking the exact same thing. I'm actually starting to think our moral bankruptcy owes to our double standards or even lack thereof. We dont seem to have clear principles at all. E.g Nobody for a moment even entertained the claim by Jub Jub that he was trying to avoid his co-accused's reckless driving when those kids in Soweto were ploughed into but today the goal posts have shifted and innocent until proven guilty and seeing good in humans are very popular songs

      karin.hattingh.96 - 2013-02-15 14:52

      Everybody is innocent until proven guilty. Whether it is Oscar or Malema. That's the way the justice system works. It has nothing to do with News24 or the commentators here or anywhere for that matter. He hasn't even been asked to plead yet. So, he is innocent of murder, being held on suspicion of murder. That's all there is to it.

      psalm.proverb.3 - 2013-02-15 14:56

      @ estee.mente, While your point is well-made, it is short-sighted and unrealistic. I am not inclined to apply some moderation in respect of an accused whose positive impact on the country is unknown to me. There will, quite naturally and understandably, be some clear bias in favour of Oscar by many readers. He is a guy who, despite his various personality flaws, made many South Africans proudly South African and whose story of grit and determination has inspired and thrilled many around the world. Yes, there are plenty of accuseds out there. But I feel no emotinal connection with them. They've never won awesome medals for SA. They've never inspired SA. They've never moved non-South Africans watch a disabled South African compete in the Olympics and still move them to root for him. Honestly, Oscar is loved for a reason - a good reason. Permit us (the Oscar fans) our sense of shock and disbelief at this state of affairs concerning Oscar. We are NOT the magistrate or judge tasked with adjudicating this criminal matter and, hence, we do not need to be objective. That's the court's job. Not ours. So, while clearly a sign of double standards, allow us the luxury of hoping (perhaps against hope) that our beloved Blade-Runner is not so flawed so as to commit pre-meditated murder. Our affection for Oscar and sheer shock, horror and disbelief at this does not diminish our sense of loss at Reeva's tragic death or our empathy for her grieving family. Not at all.

  • leon.young.9003 - 2013-02-15 13:29

    remember just one thing people he shot and killed a woman he should pay with his life

  • Yandisa Rwaai - 2013-02-15 13:30

    When I heard that he broke down in court and if he's granted bail im really scared as to what he might do to himself. I dont think he is strong enough for prison.

      dmitri.dumas.9 - 2013-02-15 13:40

      He put four rounds into her. Even in "self defense" you do not pump 4 rounds into someone not more than 10 meters from you (presuming the distance). Good grief. If he is guilty of pre-meditated murder he should sit, whether strong enough or not. If he is innocent, kindly explain the excessive force used

      luviwe.jay - 2013-02-15 14:10

      @Yandisa, you are right. I too really wonder if he is not going to commit suicide if I understand your point. Yerrrr I neva thought I will comment in this forum again just because of them and us mentality.

      bheki.dladla.756 - 2013-02-15 14:25

      so you believe he is strong enough to kill a person though????? come on he is old enough to know whats right and wrong so why the hack would he be not strong enough for prison!!! if he was strong enough to pull the trigger not just once or twice, then he better be strong for whatever might happen. and walking out on this one is highly unlikely....what he did was just wrong!!!

  • mpho.c.moreki - 2013-02-15 13:31

    Why is he hidding his face? We all know him.

  • STEPHEN.A.SHARPE - 2013-02-15 13:32

    I hope he doesn't end up in Zondervater prison

      ohbizz.chabata - 2013-02-15 13:43

      why? What's up there?

      stefanus.nel.50 - 2013-02-15 13:49

      there's no water

  • kelu.lamont - 2013-02-15 13:34

    @iYesss;John is not dealing with whether its right or wrong to own a gun(and a knife) for that matter,it is the mentality that develops once you decide to acquire that weapon.you start living on edge,weary that someone might shoot you before you have the chance to "defend yourself".when an innocent soul get murdered,the decision did not start when the trigger was pulled,but when the need for such weapon was felt and justified.

  • Nyati_Photo - 2013-02-15 13:37

    This fools true character is starting to show, where there is smoke there is always fire !!

  • lwando.memani - 2013-02-15 13:38

    Where is that organisation POWA they whould be dancing in the court yard against Oscar. Why DA is so silent about this?

      franco.matinas - 2013-02-15 13:43

      gd question bt i thnk we knw y DA z so quite...

      karl.vanrooyen - 2013-02-15 14:01

      Because they are letting JUSTICE run its course .that's why !

      CelesteH - 2013-02-15 14:06

      @ClassWarTrotsky, yeah DA dont ride the donkey like cANCer and make EVERYTHING a political issue to find ridiculous reasons to blame their supporters shortcomings on.

  • franco.matinas - 2013-02-15 13:39

    wat oscar did z wrng but lets remember hez nt da first person to kill nd wt he did its not lyk he dd on purpose but he mst pay the price jst lyk everyone hu commited a crime.

      adriaan.venter.180 - 2013-02-15 13:51

      and in English ?

      karin.hattingh.96 - 2013-02-15 14:55

      Huh?

  • Davidsto - 2013-02-15 13:39

    Well why does he close his face now ? to late!!!! Media get real what about the poor Girls parents that was killed It is all over Just the blade runner wrong !!!!!!

  • musamoyo2004 - 2013-02-15 13:39

    This lightie looks like he gonna confess

  • rikhoula.joy - 2013-02-15 13:40

    He tok the world by storm for all the rong reasons, shame dont cover your face Oscar we know you already

  • Kwanele Mzwanele Masoka - 2013-02-15 13:40

    Domestic violence is so much rife in the streets of Mzantsi!!!!!!!

      ClassWarTrotsky - 2013-02-15 13:52

      And in the homes.

  • mhla.nombembe - 2013-02-15 13:47

    Im not feeling well at all . . .This is sad shocking suprise . .

  • TheSuperC - 2013-02-15 13:48

    Hansie, Joost, Lance, Oscar...

      stefanus.nel.50 - 2013-02-15 13:50

      Tiger

      graham.booth.581 - 2013-02-15 14:05

      Hansie didn't kill anyone and he came out with truth. The great Nelson Mandela said Hansie is one of us and we must forgive him. Joosts sex life is his and who ever cares about that needs one of his own. Don't compare human life to all these peoples mistakes it doesn't compare.

      julien.afonso.5 - 2013-02-15 14:24

      OJ

      dekkeranton - 2013-02-15 14:54

      Neither Hansie nor Joost or Lance killed anyone! Fallen heroes, yes, killers ,no! Why even mention them in this contex?

  • claire.wrightkunene - 2013-02-15 13:49

    If only Oscar thought about the consequences before pulling the trigger he wouldn't be in this situation. Lets hope any other human being will learn to respect one another's lifes.

  • gillian.sanderson - 2013-02-15 13:49

    a very sad day indeed - for everyone!

      hbongie - 2013-02-15 15:07

      So sad indeed. To lose sum1 that we look up 2. He may still be alive but he'll neva b the same Oscar we loved and cheered 4. He was a hero that we were gonna look up 2 4 years 2 come. Now his memory, his achievements will all be tainted, ruined by this terrible tragedy. May Reeva R.I.P.

  • sandy.kroukamp - 2013-02-15 13:50

    Why do you all jump to conclusions. ?????????????

      ClassWarTrotsky - 2013-02-15 13:54

      Jumping to the conclusion that a woman died from gunshots inflicted by a weapon that he fired? That is fact and not contested.

  • Warren May - 2013-02-15 13:50

    The moral of this story,however it may end is that we can all be super stars,have everything and be loved by everyone today,and be a complete nothing tomorrow,due to either our vanity,our arrogant nature,a mistake or selfish intention.

  • tlotlo.phele - 2013-02-15 13:52

    @ natalie if the public can accuse Zuma for corruption due to media coverage without having any proof, the same will go down for O a woman died, there is no side of story crap, he killed her

  • mhla.nombembe - 2013-02-15 13:54

    Im not condoning crime . . Sometimes the way we talk about people who find themselves in terrible situation we throw stones as if he has been bad person his whole life . . . Oscar is not as bad as we describe him . .

      graham.booth.581 - 2013-02-15 13:59

      We are all just gat vol of people taking others lives

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2013-02-15 14:51

      If he can do what he did and try to defend himself, then he never was a good man, he simply fooled a lot of people

      Kwanele Mzwanele Masoka - 2013-02-15 15:07

      Stop being stupid Mhla, this man killed a human being a woman for that matter and went on by trying to cover up.

  • helenjeanette - 2013-02-15 13:56

    This is an all round tragedy. An icon has got feet of clay and a beautiful woman has lost her life. I think we are all moved by this turn of events. What have you done Oscar???

  • dineo.molebatsi - 2013-02-15 13:57

    #pissed4dayz doesn't oscar know that once u kill ur spouse u immediatly turn da gun on urself...now we wnt stop hearing about oscar da hole year Aaarg!!!!!

  • tlotlo.phele - 2013-02-15 14:02

    @ dineo lol, he thought he will be forgiven

  • lee.parker.39142072 - 2013-02-15 14:03

    Maybe it was self defence. Just saying

  • gary.desousa.5 - 2013-02-15 14:20

    And so the law must take its course and the punishment fit the crime.

  • vpeterf - 2013-02-15 14:21

    Very,very sad. A loss of a life (may her soul rest in peace) and the loss of a promising career. Why, why, why ?

  • makwena.k.lapane - 2013-02-15 14:21

    This incident goes to show that violence in our country knows no colour and that it has reached the ceiling,as Oscar the guy has made his bed so its time for him to lie on it!!!

  • boitumelo.mpitsang - 2013-02-15 14:21

    I mean really now Oscar shooting his GF 4 times at close range and still says he thought it was an intruder,...that's one of the amest lie ever, She was such a beautiful girl with blonde hair, that hair glows in the dark hey... he wants to tell me he couldnt see it was her. Anyway I dont feel any remorse for Oscar... sorry, people tend to do things out of anger then later when they calm down they realise what a mess they have put themselves into.

  • Lanfear - 2013-02-15 14:22

    Ag shame, next thing he will be bringing a bible to court with his pastor in the first row.

  • bruce.gauld.5 - 2013-02-15 14:28

    There are two types of executions, the ones who we don't feel sorry for and the ones we do feel sorry for. It is tragic however, I stand by my words. Murderers and rapists get Death Penalty!! I don't care if she cheated on him, I've been cheated on before but I did not kill. I got over it.. Death Penalty is the only way here. If he thought it was fitting for her, then its fitting for him as well..

  • Peter Zylstra - 2013-02-15 14:31

    So he shot her through the bathroom door and yet they say he shot her at close range. Only our highly (un)qualified SAPS can make such a silly finding. He is guilty as sin but will due to the lack of evidence be a free man soon. Condolences to the girl's family.

  • patrick.hankey.5 - 2013-02-15 14:35

    Considering what he did, he wont have a leg to stand on........

  • wishfull.abraham - 2013-02-15 14:38

    Like all the other pigs that abuse an Murder women this prick is none the Same,the police are pushing for murder And if guilty which i feel he is,this Prick should serve a long sentence,he took a lovely ladies dreams away

  • zip.reeper - 2013-02-15 14:39

    can we visit pistorius at the brooklyn police station? or should people rather pay their respects at the morgue?