Teen, aiming for robbers, kills friend

2011-08-04 15:08

East London - A teenage boy trying to shoot robbers allegedly killed his friend in Butterworth in the Eastern Cape, police said on Thursday.

Captain Jackson Manatha said the 14-year-old boy was held at knifepoint in his home by three robbers on Wednesday.

The three men stole a DVD player and ran away. Manatha said the teenager allegedly took a firearm from his father's safe, chased the robbers and started shooting at them in the street.

His 15-year-old friend came from the direction the robbers were running in and was shot in the upper body. He was taken to hospital where he later died.

The robbers escaped unhurt. No arrests had been made. Police opened a murder case.

Manatha said prosecutors were still deciding whether the 14-year-old's father would face criminal charges related to the boy getting his gun.

  • Mdavu-zn - 2011-08-04 15:13

    Arest the killer.

      ReThan - 2011-08-04 15:19

      arrest your mother.

      farmworker - 2011-08-04 15:37

      Agree he must be arrested, he is not even allowed to hold a gun, and his father should be arrested too. Unless his father is so rich and thinks he can just fabricate the whole thing

      McDaNife - 2011-08-04 15:38

      Mdavu sure you were not one of the robbers uh! you moron

      Gallows - 2011-08-04 15:49

      Thats what you think, but of course we know the lady who cleans out the loo.

      Nepster10 - 2011-08-04 15:56

      Thats where you get it all wrong South Africa. Guns are not toys. Where does the teen get the gun? What does the teen use the gun for. To practice robbery? Arrest the teen and his parents.

      Orcanda - 2011-08-04 16:14

      Why is it that some people revert to verbal abuse and ricist remark when they dont agree with each other or attack the other ones mother. Really people grow up. This behaviour is this of pre teens and teenage boys and girl. You are afterall adults arent you.

  • Wayne - 2011-08-04 15:18

    Brave but also stupid

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-08-04 16:03


      Shistirrer - 2011-08-04 16:20

      Shame, the laaitie is in so much sh*t. The SA firearms law defends the criminal. The laaitie, who is supposed to be the victim, will now face the following: First, getting the firearm AFTER being robbed is attempted murder (his life wasn't endangered anymore). His dad will probably be criminally charged for letting the laaitie have access to his gun safe, also losing all his gun licenses forever. The laaitie will also be charged with manslaughter for unintentionally killing his friend. Add to that the charges of discharging a firearm in a residential area, illegal posession of a firearm (it wasn't his), etc. etc. And the robbers got away scott free. Makes you think, doesn't it?

  • Daemos1 - 2011-08-04 15:19

    guns don't kill people....

      Kevin King - 2011-08-04 15:21

      Rather sit back when they come to kill you.

      morentebo - 2011-08-04 15:23

      innocent child died because of a gun

      farmworker - 2011-08-04 15:38

      @morentebo who killed the innocent child

      Andre Grobler - 2011-08-04 15:53

      No, you see, An innocent child died as the result of a robbery which prompted a boy to retrieve his father's firearm and chase after, and shoot at these robbers whilst they were running in the direction of said innocent boy, who got hit, -ACCIDENTALLY-, by a bullet. I repeat: Robbers rob boy -> Boy retrieves gun -> Boy retaliates -> Friend dies accidentally. Now. Let's remove the gun. Robbers->Robbery Great! No one died. Now let's pretend the 15 year old victim happened to be a 29 year old male, and use our imagination to determine the outcome without a gun at hand. Robbers-> Robbery-> Murder. Guns are scary, but removing them does not break the chain of events that threaten your security. We're lucky to live in a world where you can decide what you do, even if what you decide goes against all the evidence that proves it's a moronic choice to make. So go ahead: Remove your gun from your home, pretend you're safe, and take my advice: Prepare for a horrible wake-up call.

      iamasouthafr - 2011-08-04 16:02

      @Andre just disconnect your telephone so you do not receive the horrible wake up call.

      RH - 2011-08-04 16:05

      @Morentebo...if guns kill people spoons make you fat and pencils make spelling mistakes.

      iamasouthafr - 2011-08-04 16:09

      Oh so speed does not kill it is the sudden stop. OK I understand.

      PunkBuster - 2011-08-04 16:29

      U're right Daemos, its not the guns, its the bullets...

      morentebo - 2011-08-04 16:36

      you use a gun to shoot, you don't throw a bullet at a person and think they are gonna die All they are gonna say is OUCH

      Michael Caine - 2011-08-04 22:08

      @morentebo Switzerland has one of the highest gun per capita rates and yet it is one of the safest countries in the world - in 2001 statistics noted that there were about 420,000 assault rifles stored at private homes. Switzerland has around 40 gun-related incidents per year as opposed to our gun-related incidents which run into the hundreds of thousands so please don't fool yourself - guns don't kill people, people kill each other.

      Xavier Fritz - 2011-08-11 23:50

      people kill people

  • Who Cares - 2011-08-04 15:21

    Teenagers of today are just DUMB!!

      Enigma - 2011-08-04 15:33

      Was he dumb or angry and sick of these thugs who think they can do as they please. Sorry for the friend that died and I wish he had got those bastards!

  • Shadoz - 2011-08-04 15:22

    I wish he hit the bleeding thieves. What a shame another innocent killed because people can't work for there money. as far as i am concerned i would have done the same except i am a good shot.

      Kitkat24 - 2011-08-04 15:32

      cause you are thought to shoot and kill at a small age, camouflage with hunting of kudu's etc..

      farmworker - 2011-08-04 15:39

      Eish Shadoz who said the thieves were bleeding

      Shadoz - 2011-08-04 15:49

      farmworker lol it is just a slang for another word.

      lollie sue - 2011-08-04 15:54

      @Farmworker, eish you, lol..

      morentebo - 2011-08-04 16:00

      @Shadoz Did you say you are a good shot? lol

      Wayne - 2011-08-04 16:12

      @kitkat - Yes we are taught to think at a young age, you are absolutely correct.

      Orcanda - 2011-08-04 16:20

      My heart goes out to this boy who thought at that moment that what he did was the righ thing by taking his dads gun, and now must live with the consequince for the rest of his life. It was an accident and it does not make him a murderer so in the end it will come down to manslaughter.

      farmworker - 2011-08-04 16:21

      @Shadoz Which other words help a farmworker out

  • BokomoWeetbi - 2011-08-04 15:24

    Damn, everything happens in the Eastern Cape

  • iamasouthafr - 2011-08-04 15:30

    Thats OK you will get away with it. Just the other day and ANC member fired rounds at a thief that stole is cell phone and killed a child and there are no problem.

      seanler - 2011-08-04 15:34

      Poor children. One dead and the other scarred for life. Hope he gets off as lightly as the ANC oke did.

  • Bok Fan - 2011-08-04 15:31

    Words cannot begin to................. One can only weep for sorrow.

  • Paralegal - 2011-08-04 15:33

    Ag shame! That poor boy has to live with this mistake for the rest of his life. Prayers are with you, son.

  • Derrick - 2011-08-04 15:34

    These comments conform to the 80-20 rule. 80% stupid, 20% normal

      iamasouthafr - 2011-08-04 15:38

      Yip and yours just changed it to 79-19 rule. But thats ok this is South Africa - The Wild West - anything goes. Tomorrow you will be a HERO.

      Voltage - 2011-08-04 16:02

      81-19 .. but who is counting :-D

      iamasouthafr - 2011-08-04 16:11

      LOL - Shot for the correction!

      maseratifitt - 2011-08-04 20:17

      But I thought stupid IS normal. So, 100% normal.

  • P!NK - 2011-08-04 15:36

    Come on man, what's a 14year old doing with a gun any way? Shame on him and the father - No DVD, HI-FI, cellphone etc, is worth losing a life - just think of the trauma this whole thing has put him through as opposed to just losing a dvd

      Orcanda - 2011-08-04 16:24

      Pink it is a child and a child dont think like you. For a teenager its his things that got stolen and the anger and helplessness he must have felt with the knive against his throat was the last straw for revenge was on his mind. Teenagers are not stupid they can figure safe locks out and they know where you hide what.

      Mr Incognito - 2011-08-04 16:32

      Ever got robbed Pink? Ever suffered the indignity of having your possessions taken by a lazy-@ssed bum by force and who doesnt work cos he knows you are there to top up his pocket? Its not about losing a DVD, etc, its about taking back your basic human dignity. Pity the kid shot someone else and not the robbers. Now the anti-gun campaign will ride this one for all its worth.

  • lollie sue - 2011-08-04 15:39

    Poor boy trying to fight crime on his own, accidentally kills a friend. RIP.

  • Shaylene - 2011-08-04 15:41

    If the gun is kept in a safe, why does the child know the combination? Is that not telling the child you are welcome to use the gun whenever you want to?

      Kenko - 2011-08-04 16:01

      Any person living in a house has a right, and duty, to know where the keys to the safe are (or the combination). The father did nothing willfully wrong, as did the boy. The robbers should be held accountable.

  • Gore - 2011-08-04 15:41

    Eish, whats in today with the teens, another unlicenced one ran over kids with a Tazz.

  • sponkie - 2011-08-04 15:42

    Don't blame guns. Blame crime - if the bastards hadn't robbed him, this never would have happened. People in the country have reached a boiling point when it comes to crime. Very sorry that it happened.

      iamasouthafr - 2011-08-04 15:44

      I agree, let's arm our youth.

  • Fedup - 2011-08-04 15:46

    I wonder how much crime this poor kid has seen in his day to try and fight it himself, shame poor thing I hope the courts are lenient on him

  • markblack10 - 2011-08-04 15:47

    Stupid ass kid

  • amith.authar - 2011-08-04 15:57

    this is possibly my first post and i tell you im tired of seeing people pick on race colour political party arent we supposed to unite? During the World Cup everyone was Kumbaya come people stop whining and give unbiased comments advice.

      Wayne - 2011-08-04 16:04

      You have a better chance of winning the lotto 10 times concurrently than having peace among different races here in SA.

      iamasouthafr - 2011-08-04 16:25

      Ok well only the political party was mentioned. RACE i agree we must unite but there must be constructive criticism when it comes to political parties don't be so dramatic.

      Dries - 2011-08-05 10:47

      amith.authar - August 4, 2011 at 15:57 wrote: "....this is possibly my first post and i tell you....." POSSIBLY your first post..... Are you possibly blonde, my girl?

  • Djack - 2011-08-04 15:59

    @ Mdavu-zn. When an adult ANC Deputy Manager kills a child, shooting at a cell phone thief, then gets off sct free, it's ok? This was a child who's life was threatened.

  • RH - 2011-08-04 16:02

    Dont childproof your gun...gunproof your child.

  • Agent Bastad - 2011-08-04 16:06

    Even if he hit the robbers, he would have been charged with murder/attempted murder. Under the stupid SA law, you are not allowed to shoot at a fleeing thief, even if he already assaulted or raped you.

  • jacogreeff - 2011-08-04 16:22

    The father should face charges. Doesn't matter how much you would like to shoot someone for stealing your belongings, you can not shoot someone that is running away and not endangering your life. A 14 year old child might not know all the aspects/rules/etc. of owning a firearm and should not be able to get hold of one.

  • MnrFotograaf - 2011-08-04 16:26

    This is so sad, but I still think the child did the best he could at the time. Even cops with years of training shoot people by accident, so how can this child, living in a super violent country, be blamed?

  • Denzil - 2011-08-04 17:00

    In law under "Causation" the suspects will have to be charged for the murder of the friend. If they didnt commit the initial crime - one person wouldn't have been killed.

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