Tell us about fake licences - officials

2011-10-18 22:35

Johannesburg - Gauteng officials have urged people to come forward with information about the sale of fake or fraudulently obtained learner's and driver's licences.

"Come out and tell us where the problems are," said transport department spokesperson Octavia Mamabolo.

Thapelo Moiloa, spokesperson for the department of community safety said: "We appeal to people to come forward. Give us the specific details, so we can work on these people as a matter of urgency."

Moiloa said despite monitoring efforts and crackdowns, the sale of fake licences and fraudulently obtained licences, and fake roadworthy clearances continued unabated.

"Those cars and those people will be using our roads. If they are not trained properly they are going to cause havoc on our roads," he said.

"If their vehicles are not roadworthy they will be responsible for carnage on our roads."

The Star reported that fake learner's and driver's licences were being sold for between R800 and R4 500 at four of the five City of Johannesburg testing centres.

They were primarily organised by car guards and instructors from "fly-by-night" driving schools, who worked with centre examiners, the newspaper reported.

Mamabolo said on Tuesday that the problem of fraudulent licences was "rampant".

Compounding the situation was the fact that some of the government's officials were complicit in arranging the licences.

"We need to really apply some unconventional methods," she said.

This might involve installing closed circuit television and investigating and vetting the examiners.

At worst, they might have to close some testing stations.

"People are consistently finding new ways of beating the system," she said.

"It is really a problem for the department. I'm not going to shy away from that."

Moiloa encouraged people who had bought a licence to contact the department anonymously.

"Give us the name of the testing station and the official involved and we will deal harshly with them."

The DA laid the blame on the testing centres' inability to cope with the numbers of people who wanted licences.

Moiloa invited people to send information to him on, 011-689-3826 or 084-805-2247.

  • Lauden Kirk - 2011-10-18 22:52

    Like every thing dir. Remind me why we pay you you??? To think. So please think before you ask.

      Michael - 2011-10-19 08:22

      The least thing they could offer a is a TOLL FREE contact number

      Gary - 2011-10-19 08:47

      since when are the options that he suggested unconventional......? do some bloody work for a change....

  • Klaus - 2011-10-18 23:08

    Thapelo Moiloa, get off your backside and do your own work, how difficult can it be? Ever heard of "Undercover investigation". Are you lazy or just plain incompetent?

      George - 2011-10-19 05:53


  • lukas2 - 2011-10-18 23:18

    Cant you investigate

  • Christo - 2011-10-18 23:22

    I don't know about fake licences but I do know a "Speedcop" in town who lets people pass the learner and drivers licence for R2000. No wonder he is driving a brand new BMW.

  • Phillie - 2011-10-19 00:06

    "Give us the name of the testing station and the official involved and we will deal harshly with them." Ha Ha Ha !!! There is no more ambassador posts available.

  • Mark - 2011-10-19 00:15

    I think this is a direct reflection of the terrible service one gets at testing centres. That, insufficient centres and predatory officials.

  • Ian - 2011-10-19 01:04

    Have you ever tried obtaining appointments for either a learners or a licence? Surely in this modern society we can have online bookings. Reason we don't is that this is probably were the first corruption starts. A few hundred bucks and they get you up in the line. I have witnessed this with our kid first hand. Make the system easier and people will do it the correct way. Unfortunately it seems as if the system makes it so difficult that the easier route is to pay someone.

  • Witbooi - 2011-10-19 04:12

    Now whistle blowing is acceptable?? Sheesh this ANC is seriously screwed up.

  • roger.v.powell - 2011-10-19 06:48

    This is indeed a matter that needs to be addressed urgently not to mention the staggering amount of drunken driving offences mentioned in the press yesterday. I believe the number was 20,000. Combine these factors with poorly maintained road surfaces and it is clear to see why we have so much carnage related to motor vehicle accidents. Reducing the national speed limit won't make a dent.

  • Dorothea - 2011-10-19 07:28

    Yet another example of how my hard earned money is not being spent correctly. It is bad enough that I have to pay for Private Health Care, Private Schooling and Home Security. Now, I am urged to play the role of the police???? Cant wait to leave this dump and at long last watch my taxes do some work for a change. Cant wait to live amongst a nation that actually contributes and does not sit back and continually remind themselves that they are ENTITLED to plunder, take and destroy....

  • - 2011-10-19 07:39

    wasnt the issue of fake license the exact reason these scumbags md\ade us change our old licenses to this new card system back when.. i recall the words that the new ones were supposedly being introduced to combat fakery and frraud.. the entire license thing si just another ANC scumbag milk the motorists.. let these officials revisit the issue as to why we had ot change outr old licenses to the new paying card doent work and is jhust another fraud poerpetrated on the public by the onwderful ANC and their corrupt buddy shabby shaik who no doubt had the ocntract tp supply these cards to the publiuc.. and make himself a tidy profit at the same time..

  • Hugh - 2011-10-19 08:02

    As an employer I am of the firm belief that the average South African that we are now forced to employ under EE laws is very good at being the criminal. I have thought if only they could apply their minds to working or being creative within the system they would go far. But it seems that easy money and no work are almost genetic.

  • memaritz - 2011-10-19 08:22

    Johannesburg? What about the rest of the country! Bribery and corruption is the NORM if you want a licence AND have money. Otherwise - no money no licence!!! Come to Durban and see what goes on here .... astounding to say the least!

  • Alwyn - 2011-10-19 08:25

    and with the proposed 4 year scheme even more will get forged as the system will have more admin and alot of ends to keep less time to monitor an already bad situation....

  • pmogala - 2011-10-19 11:01

    Why are people resorting to buying fake linences?

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