Tensions flare at Viviers bail hearing

2013-02-21 19:03

Johannesburg - Tensions flared in the Krugersdorp Magistrate's Court on Thursday in the bail application of Roedolf Viviers, who is accused of the murder of a Muslim man.

Muhammad Fayaaz Kazi's family and friends reacted angrily when the court was told there would be no public outcry if Viviers was granted bail.

Viviers' lawyer Hendrick Nortjie, who was being cross-examined, said he had not seen any protests or marches about the incident.

"It's an interest, not a public outcry," he said.

During a short adjournment, members of Kazi's family voiced their fury.

"They want a public outcry, we will show them a public outcry," they said. "We have been quiet for too long and if the law doesn't take its course, we will."

Kazi's father-in-law Hashim Motara broke down in tears and asked: "They say he should be let go because his mother is ill.... What about a mother that lost her son?"

"We know where they stay..," he said.

A few minutes later, they returned to the courtroom holding placards. "No bail," read one of them. "Justice delayed is justice denied", read another.

Viviers and another man, Zayne van Tonder, 33, allegedly made racist remarks to Kazi and his friend Anser Mahmood about their beards, at a Chicken Licken outlet in Magaliesburg on 6 August 2012.

An argument and a fight ensued. Kazi was severely beaten and died in hospital.

Charges against Van Tonder were later dropped and he was released.

  • ANASKA - 2013-02-21 19:12

    Temper, temper!!

      Simphiwe Thwala - 2013-03-25 16:11

      Well! its obviois dat viviers behaviour, was perpetuated by racism, we, should not there by forget that, white people are pure racist. he shall suffer his concequeinces, justice must be served

  • timothy.crowley.14 - 2013-02-21 19:19

    No place in society for thugs like this, I hope he gets life, then he can attempt to take on all the prisoners he wants once he is behind bars, my bet is he wont fight too many!

  • yvonne.c.martin.71 - 2013-02-21 19:19

    Threats been flung around??

  • Lidia Dos Ramos - 2013-02-21 19:39

    Any life taken is a crime this person should not be given bail just like oscar is denied bail, this is not acceptable

      Timothy Smee - 2013-02-21 19:50

      Lidia South Africa is quickly seen as one of the most violent countries in the world people can do whatever they like this court case has IIuminati written all over A Crime is a Crime at the end of the day And Oscar should do time if I shoot someone in the head I'am guilty its not a accident I killed him!!! This Country is the laughing stock all other countries are viewing South Africa as a joke Bring Back the Death Penalty And USA are IIuminati but they executed their criminals the judges,and magistrates are not paid over like this South Africa is not the greatest country in the world we have a long way to go our Soccer Team can't win the AFCON we can't win the Cricket World Cup,this is a travesty.I wouldn't kill my gf.

      Heather Campbell Matthewson - 2013-02-21 21:07

      Lidia if this your opinion why are you protesting for a certain singer JS to be arrested!

  • johan.coetzer.52 - 2013-02-21 19:57

    Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law and in the pursuit of justice an accused has the right to apply for bail and only if the crime is a schedule 6 crime as contemplated in terms of the criminal procedure act , the accused has to provide exceptional circumstances why he should get bail otherwise it is up to state to prove that accused is not entitled to bail and will not attend his trial .i do not know the merits of this case but i cannot see that accused will evade standing trial and if the purpose of denying bail is purely to satisfy our sense of vengeance it will defeat the concept of being innocent until proven guilty .

      beertjie.peertjie - 2013-02-21 20:21

      I agree with you. Once the trial has run its course, and if found guilty, he will be punished. The purpose of bail is to secure the attendance of the accused. If there are doubts, bail can be denied. However, bail should not be denied in order to punish the accused.

      Nettie Potgieter - 2013-02-21 20:48

      Beertjie if only the people in SA are educated on the law they will understand the consept innocent until proven guilty until then we must put up with people who is totaly ignorant about basic legal matters.

  • Refiloe Thelma Shikwambana - 2013-02-21 20:36

    We know where they stay.he he he

  • Mandy Casey - 2013-02-21 20:45

    Hashim Motara is now making threats by saying he " knows where he stays" The fight was started by his son, by picking up a brick and calling the two outside to fight. The brick did not help him. No more violence. Excerpt from court hearing: " Mahmood said he had picked up a brick and called the two men, whom he described as the aggressors, to follow him into the street outside the fast food outlet."

  • jean.steyn.9 - 2013-02-21 20:52

    Viviers and Van Tonder don't strike me as intellectual giants. It will be a huge surprise if they have matric. I think they are big and strong bulleys (steroid gym junkies perhaps?) who were out looking for a fight that went horribly wrong. Probably not the first time they were in a fight together either. They are giving the good Afrikaners out there a bad name. Hope he gets life.

  • Latimer Francke - 2013-02-21 20:56

    He was being a races pig! and cause the death of another person. Now all off a sudden everyone once to feel sorry for him, because his mother is sick? I wonder what u all would've said if the story was in reverse. The other party would've been dead by now. Get real people. As hy sy bek gehou het, het die man nog geleef. Nou wil julle se hy het homself verdedig?

  • shamiel.mathews - 2013-02-21 22:50

    We need to take a hard look at how we deal in conflict situations. It seem the 1st thing we resort to is conflict and violence. Is that what happened with Oscar? If these men was less confrontational and possibly just walked away, a life could have been spared. And by saying that I dont know who started the fight. But the point is, we (as men) need to take a hard look at how we deal with conflict. Do we always have to be right even if the end result is a disater? Does it make us more of a man to overpower and even humiliate the other person? My condolences to Muhammad Fayaaz Kazi's family.

  • Tlotlo Phele - 2013-02-22 05:28

    He killed and must pay for his actions

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