Toilet protesters torch cars

2012-05-10 12:12

Johannesburg - Two cars were torched during a protest over toilets in Kwa Thema, on the East Rand, police said on Thursday.

Warrant Officer Tommy Tomlinson said the cars were burned on Wednesday evening. No other violence was reported and the area was quiet on Thursday.

"A community meeting was held on Wednesday afternoon to address the situation."

He said councillors asked residents during the meeting to remain calm and to grant them two weeks to address their demands.

Police were told protesters took to the streets after a contractor, who was supposed to build toilets and develop a drainage system in the township, left the area.

The protests began on Tuesday night after a community meeting.

  • Stirrer - 2012-05-10 12:27

    WHAT?! No toilets? Helen Zille, please apologize! (Oh, sorry, the ANC cannot blame this on the DA...)

  • Alan - 2012-05-10 12:38

    The mind "Bog"gles!

      roberta.keeling - 2012-05-10 13:22

      Very clever. 10 out of 10 for you!

  • stefaans.blaauw - 2012-05-10 12:45

    The country is Litterally BURNING, protests in different townships all over SA, some violent ones. They are unhappy about the poor services or NO services. They are burning down classrooms, cars, buildings, and blocking the roads by burning tyres. And we are only concrned about a racial tweet posted by some idiots. In 58 towns the water is not fit for human consumption the minister said, people should not drink the water. While we spend time commenting on the racial issues......... Wake up South Africa, the country is burning!!!

  • Stephen Radebe - 2012-05-10 13:09

    We are living in danger on this democracy of now day that is in crisis.

  • rayno.grever - 2012-05-10 13:21

    I for one do not feel sorry for these people. They vote for this every election. Keep it up, soon you will have nothing left to vandalize. Ofcourse after this they will run to the Western Cape, palms out crying: 'give me what you worked hard for' God forbid you don't give them hand-outs and you'll be labeled a racist. Why do they need two more weeks to sort things out? They already had 18 years

  • Erna - 2012-05-10 13:26

    I was under the impression that only the DA didn't provide toilets! Was I wrong? (tongue firmly in cheek)!

  • Stephen - 2012-05-10 13:32

    So we are back to the old "Politics of Plumbing" routine again. It figures given this totally apathetic,inept and corrupt ANC goverment.

  • Khetha Hlophe - 2012-05-10 13:33

    If you vandalize the infrastructure you are double dom. people must learn to use Mahatmas strategy.

  • Andrew - 2012-05-10 13:48

    Just typical of our blacks. Destroy whatever you have and demand more.

  • Gregory - 2012-05-10 13:54

    I would love to see Zuma and his six wives live in a community with no toilets and give him his machine gun.

  • Rob - 2012-05-10 13:54

    So now they still have no toilets and now two members of their community no longer have vehicles. Well done, you should be so proud.

  • Nigel - 2012-05-10 13:57

    Protest about toilets = burn cars ??? Of course, why didn't I see the logic right away?

      Mike - 2012-05-11 07:42

      Protest the contractors - burn OTHER people's cars. Perfectly logical.

  • Chris - 2012-05-10 14:15

    Do they want the toilets to use the way they are ment to be used. Or do they want them just to have something to decicrate.....

  • Dhavandran - 2012-05-10 14:37

    this is what you get for still believing in the struggle. catch a wake-up, we are 18yrs into democracy and you have the power to vote the right party in . its time we put an end to believing we still have to fight is dead and the anc needs to move on and so do we. we need service delivery and not to be steeped in sentiments of the past.bon voyage ANC , the people will vote with their heads and not their hearts.

  • RObert - 2012-05-10 14:48

    Why Not go and burn that Loot-a-lot house and stop touching innocent poor cars.

  • Kgotso Motsoane - 2012-05-10 15:25

    It sure sounds like the Journo in this instance was at the Rupert Murdoch school of journos, how do you call people Toilet Protestors, not unless you want to side with the government and belittle people. Damaging property can never be justified but this is not a black South African phenomenon but a world wide one, when media does not objectively make politicians accountable like in this instance by reporting fairly, people (not black people, people in general) will damage property, we saw it in Spain early this year, we see it in Greece, they did it in London last year, Nigerians did it when protesting about the fuel price hike. the French are also very good at damaging property during strikes/protest. Even if it was the DA in government or Democrats / Republicans, we will see protests, even during the occupy wall street protest, property was damaged in both the east as well as the west. But it is only when politicians are accountable where we see less or no damage at all. Even in this case its not even reported whether these cars belong to local residents, government or business, not that it makes it correct but some have made judgmental claims about other citizens loosing their cars, yet the article says nothing of ownership of this property. If you are not smart you will then think its only blacks that go on strike.

      Hester - 2012-05-10 16:08

      So Kgotso, how many whites do you think live in Kwa Thema? How many whites took part in the protest.

      Kgotso Motsoane - 2012-05-10 17:50

      @Rayno. was it that obvious in France? if so why did they need runoff election which resulted in leftist Francois Hollande,winning. Are you saying blacks voted for the former and whites voted for Hollande, how smart is that. @Hester i know of two whites that leave in the area where the strike originates from. The thing about poverty is that it chooses no colour. Just read the last sentence of comment and think long and hard about where you fit in.

      rayno.grever - 2012-05-10 18:22

      Kgotso there is a huge difference in the situation in France and here in SA. I imagine most French have toilets. There seems to be huge relief now that Sarkozy is gone. Europeans don't wait 18 years to change their situation, if it doesn't work they change it with the power of their vote. I understand this happens everywhere but for pete's sake how long must our people wait for the most basic of needs. No Khotso, the ANC supporters' mentality is a little flawed

      Kgotso Motsoane - 2012-05-10 19:36

      @rayno you have got to have an appreciation of the fact that change should be of the mind first, thus the role that media has to play can never be underestimated, the issue I am raising is that of the Media, who in this case have sided with the government, just like you have, belittling protestors, underestimating the better inches of their minds, calling them toilet protestors instead of reporting objectively. Instead journos stand outside the doors of the powerful waiting to be lied to, rather than clearing out the rubble of ideology that smothers independence of mind, they are also wolves in sheep skin simpering loyally to the powers that be whilst they, journos suppress. Their reporting methods allow ignorant attitudes to fester , resulting in damages even to the very right to strike which should be jealously guarded and the most valuable means of progress. Support for the ANC is not shallow it is a very deep and principled one, for ours is a tragic history which will never be easily forgotten

      rayno.grever - 2012-05-10 22:46

      Kgotso that is unfortunately how the media operates as controversy, racism and headlines that touch nerves sell like hot cakes. Its not nice but its not illegal and I believe its a style adopted worldwide. Freedom of speech and all that. In my opinion voting for the ANC was noble in 1994 as the majority of South Africans had hope for a brighter future for the first time in their lives. 18 years on not much has changed. In fact we have witnessed a massive dent in public service. The media reports R30bn is lost annually as a result of ANC corruption. People may not appreciate the media's style of reporting but it does not make their stories less true. 'Support for the ANC is very deep and principled, for ours is a history which will never be forgotten' Yes your history is tragic, ours as coloureds too but with all due respect that's exactly what it is, a history. Remember, lament and celebrate it but why should people's emotionally-driven votes halt the progression towards a fair South Africa. Nobody benefits that way, least of all the poor black ANC voters. Its well documented and general knowledge by now. I know you're talking about the media- how it manipulates our thoughts and forces a reaction but I am too irritated not too stress the point of emotionally-driven yet mindless support for a party that's a mere shadow of what it used to be. Change is good, not something to be feared

  • Pixi3kid - 2012-05-10 16:56

    This is not a matter of "black and white", but rather what the your goverment promises you and then turn their backs! See the DA had a deal with the township people... the DA said they can only build X amount of toilets, but the people were unhappy with these numbers so they said... build more toilets and we will "cover" them. So the DA build more toilets thinking that the people will honor their part of covering it. THEY DID NOT and the DA got the blame. i dont agree with burning stuff to get your way... its like a small child throwing a TANTRUM the more attention you give it the more they will go on! MEDIA people, thats whats its all about! If no one comes running to every burning tyre what will happen? I understand the situation about being angry about this, but take it up in a correct way! its like yelling at your kids, when you are actually angry with your husband... it might make you feel better but the problem is still there. Just Saying...

  • Dooie - 2012-05-10 17:23

    Well, ok. The next time I am pissed off with our government I will go burn down their homes. Why would they burn and throw stones at other peoples property who also live with the incompetence of our government?

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-10 23:57

      Probably because the people they are attacking have cars, and toilets

  • Ted - 2012-05-10 17:41

    When we try to engage in fair and honest debate about what we can do to uplift these communities,people quickly give a thumbdown. Not that we care about the disapproval. We would honestly be trying to engage at a debate level. This country is full of poverty. These people are demonstrating for toilets!? Do you really believe that a person without a toilet is human. Do they have anything to lose? If you tell these people that invading private properties will make the homeland worse they will care? They do not care about things getting worse because these people are really not what we all want them to be. There is no worse life for them. They deserve an uplifting from all of us. The empty-pot brains on this forum will quickly try to point out corruption etc, but that is a tired tune. You can now see that people can do unbelievable stunts just because of toilets. Any politician who promises these people a toilet will win. We may be blinkered because we are privileged or better-of, but as sure as the sun rises everyday, we will rue the chance we have now to engage, assist and be informed about how even going to a toilet is just such a luxury in some of our communities. There will be a time when there will be unstoppable protests for some more profound issues and we will not be laughing then.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-10 21:04

      Why is the councillor for that area fighting this battle for them? Maybe the hawks must do a lifestyle audit on the councillor - maybe they'll find the reason why the toilets have not been completed. One can't blame people for rioting when they don't even have the most basic of facilities. They are being treated like dirt- must make them super unhappy!

      Pixi3kid - 2012-05-11 07:59

      "we are privileged or better-of" i dont know about you guys, but i will work my butt off just to NOT DEPEND on goverment and then the less fortunate will look at us as "rich people". im i right by saying you can choose the life you want? so they choose to stay where they are and keep on depending on the very same people who let them down time and time again.

  • Isabel - 2012-05-10 20:58

    THEY NEVER LEARN... KEEP voting for the ANC... Thats what you will get... NOTHING.NO ROADS NO CLEAN WATER> AND SO ON.. WHAT CAN I SAY...

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-05-10 23:54

    What is really sad us that these people had to resort to violence in order to be heard - and their need is one that is a basic human right. Their own kind are in charge of this country and they have failed their people BIG TIME. It's an absolute disgrace that in 18 years not everyone has access to decent sanitation. By the way, why are RDP houses built with toilets outside? These are houses built for black people by a black government - where are their human rights?

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