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Toll vandals will be punished - govt

2012-11-29 08:18

Johannesburg - Any person who damaged property during the scheduled e-toll protests would have to face the law, government said on Thursday.

"Government calls on marchers to exercise their right to protest within the ambit of the law," said spokesperson Thabo Masebe.

The warning followed reports that Cosatu's provincial secretary Dumisani Dakile had stated that they would demolish the tolls if government failed to listen to them and scrap the tolls.

"I think if government doesn't listen, then people will have no choice but to go and demolish those toll-gates," he said at a press briefing on Wednesday.

Misunderstood

Speaking to Eyewitness News on Thursday morning, Dakile, however, said he had been misunderstood and explained that he meant to say that government officials who tore down houses in Lenasia several weeks ago should also tear down the tolls.

The houses had reportedly been illegally constructed on land meant for government housing.

The anti-toll protests would be staged on Friday by members of the Congress of the SA Trade Unions and the public in Johannesburg and Pretoria.

Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi said this was just the beginning.

"On the 6th of December we are not only going to march, but give the government a little dose of what to expect in March if they pass that law and try to force implementation of the e-tolls," he said.

Government officials said they would be closely monitoring the demonstrations.

Meanwhile, the North Gauteng High Court is yet to deliver its verdict on the fate of the tolls.

The Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa) wants the court to review and set aside the SA National Roads Agency Limited's decision to declare sections of Gauteng's freeways as toll roads.

Comments
  • webstorm.isp.5 - 2012-11-29 08:22

    Hahaha, good luck with that one. If the people dont want it they destroy it! This should be a lesson to the government, stop trying to steal our hard earned money for your own riches and everything will be fine, isnt our millions and millions of rands tax money enough? STOP STEALING and we will STOP DESTROYING!!!

      saintbruce.bruce - 2012-11-29 10:59

      Actually the system works with tag sensors using RFID technology and cameras to photograph numberplates. Simple mine marking spray paint can fix that camera system! No picture = no evidence of a violator passing through the gantry! Mine marking spray paint is designed to squirt a stream up to 6 metres. Or set off chinese lanterns under the gantries at night to block the cameras - it will look pretty! [ tie parachute silk between them and launch each side to make a ribbon ] Happy Christmas SANRAL !!

      ronald.stilianou - 2012-11-29 12:03

      EMP.

      heathway.master - 2012-11-29 14:45

      Saintbruce,I am going to fill my whole garage with mine marking spray. With over 3.5 million potential customers, I will easily be able to retire early.

  • ec.van.niekerk - 2012-11-29 08:23

    Just think of the job opportunities here ... 2 guards per tower per shift ... shift 6 hours ... 4 shifts per day so wow just created 8 new jobs!!! now times that with the ????? toll structures on the highways ... image !!!

      stefan.vanrensburg.94 - 2012-11-29 08:52

      Hehe; one small thing: forget about winning that tender, broer.

      mark.higgens.9 - 2012-11-29 09:10

      Yip and then they will increase the toll charges to pay for security, snowball effect

  • Blackpoison - 2012-11-29 08:26

    HKGK

      colin.dovey - 2012-11-29 09:50

      ICUY?

      colin.dovey - 2012-11-29 09:50

      @#?&* ?

  • goodwin.dale - 2012-11-29 08:27

    Well they are already punishing all of Gauteng by making us pay to drive on roads! So whats the diffs? I will NOT pay tolls and I support the toll gantry's being taken apart and sold for scrap! All proceeds can go towards funding of housing development for the poor.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-11-29 08:42

      Might add Zumaville to that. I say nationalize that property and rent it out to African leaders looking for a bomb shelter or a hiding place. They will pay top dollar for such services. Then use the money to build houses for the poor.

  • michael.bushes.5 - 2012-11-29 08:28

    Go FORTH copper thieves

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-11-29 08:39

      ... and do what you do best. Never thought I'd actually support them. Who knew.

      vambozha.mutemi.9 - 2012-11-29 12:00

      copper buyers may you please raise the buying price of copper stolen from places near or on toll structures...

  • Thabisoul Motsome - 2012-11-29 08:30

    Bring it on!!!

  • thembinkosi.jozie - 2012-11-29 08:31

    If Ramaposaa is a shareholder then Cosatu should think twice

  • Tebz001 - 2012-11-29 08:31

    So the ANC is the one that is planning to punish those who are fighting for freedom. It's funny how things change.

      colin.langley - 2012-11-29 12:28

      Good one Tebz!

  • dragonfire47 - 2012-11-29 08:32

    yeah they will be punnished, no gravy for you but hey destroying private property is all good, freaking savage criminal morons

  • eland.snitbul - 2012-11-29 08:34

    Burn them to the ground...! hehe it's time the people of the country force the government to serve them instead of us serving the government.

  • robes.spear - 2012-11-29 08:36

    (Sigh) Why can Zipper's "African way" not be through the ballot box instetad of violence??? Vote DA!! ANC supporters - the DA is your path to ensuring economic freedom and delivery of services.

  • Brian Radebe Dorning - 2012-11-29 08:40

    what about the vandals that damaged the mines? the farming stuffs in the cape? the government property and transporter's property?

  • linda.duits - 2012-11-29 08:40

    Surely we will have a better outcome if no one pays toll fees? I don't think they will have the manpower to look for people or summons them, that way we will be able to withhold money

  • kingswing69 - 2012-11-29 08:42

    you people in the Government are crippling the country , when you wake up and realise the tolls are going to have a negative effect on everyone.becausr you the ANC have screwed everyone out of money and you filled your back pockets before heping anyone else.now there is no money.

  • Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-29 08:44

    As an entrepreneur inside this communist state of the nation of South Africa see the opportunity's this presents to young people! Land invasions around each toll gantry. Tjondoza shacks spread around creating a state grant funded community which can monitor impimpi style anyone carrying the means to destroy your livlihood, the gantry! Bunkers to slaughter 12 head of cows to ensure the longevity of the venture. Kilometers of highway verge to breed lucky rabbits for miners. Additional kilometers of verge for your eastern cape refugee's to move onto and burn down the nearby businesses and libraries and schools. Extra parking for your gov relative to park the feet of black BMW's & Mercs when arriving to orchestrate counter revolutionary revolts. Helipads for the king of nkandla with acolytes fransman & ehrenreichz's to use when offloading unfaithful wives on swap basis. ATM's by banks that offer inexplicable loans and "bonds" on shacks or rural palaces. eissshhHHH, get onto NYDA quickly to set this up.....

  • koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-11-29 08:45

    I’m willing to sponsor an angle grinder. You can keep what you grind!

  • adrian.snyman.16 - 2012-11-29 08:47

    OK, so where is the heavy handedness when there are other protests ?

  • neil.ross.5473 - 2012-11-29 08:47

    If anyone blows up a toll gantry, they must be treated exactly the same as the loyal anc cadres who blew up substations, shopping centres, churches and bars in the name of "fighting against an oppressive and corrupt government" - they must be made national heroes and have streets named after them. Only fair.

      brendaanne.anderson - 2012-11-29 12:39

      Absolutely well said , Neil.

      patsy.smith.125 - 2012-11-30 12:05

      I'd really like to know the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter. Perhaps I'm naive but my understanding is that a terrorist targets the innocent, whilst a freedom fighter wil target government installations and government members?

  • ziso.maziso - 2012-11-29 08:49

    Damaging infrastructure is wrong and counter-productive. Fleecing people of their hard earned money in these tough times is equally wrong!

      flysouth - 2012-11-29 12:45

      There are times when extreme measures are necessary and justified. A recent example of this is the 'Arab Spring' where leaders who have used their country and repressed their populace to enrich themselves and their families for 30 years and more were violently overthrown - but only following many years of peaceful attempts to get them to step down. Also I would ask you - were you in favour pre-1994 of the damage and intimidatory violence perpetrated by the ANC in their quest for power? If you were then STFU!

      patsy.smith.125 - 2012-11-30 12:09

      It's worse, Ziso. The people are trying to survive. This new 'infrastructure' is purely to line back pockets which are already fiiled to overflowing

  • neil.ross.5473 - 2012-11-29 08:49

    If anyone blows up a toll gantry, they must be treated exactly the same as the loyal anc cadres who blew up substations, shopping centres, churches and bars in the name of "fighting against an oppressive and corrupt government" - they must be made national heroes and have streets named after them. Only fair.

  • rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-11-29 08:51

    100% AGREE. Causing damage during a protest is criminal behaviour and should be met with swift and effective action. Arrest, fair value fine, maybe improsonment and community service. AND THIS SHOULD BE APPLIED IN EXACTLY THE SAME MANNER TO ALL INCIDENTS OF THIS TYPE REGARDLESS OF THE PERPRETATORS. Including damage to schools, offices, municipal buildings, mines and anywhere else. Having shouterd out the PRINCIPLE the government must now show that they do have some integrity left and enforce it without exception.

      rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-11-29 09:35

      Seriously, thumb downers you are entitled to your say....but on what principles do you object to my post...bad spelling maybe?

      Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-29 09:50

      Not to mention ensuring illegal blockaders as around Nkandla get arrested instead of LEGAL EVALUATORS. Those police should all be in jail by now for preventing Zille and her "6 person army" from nearing the nkandlagate house of thievery! Nathi, any comment? - you pagan zuma tribal lapdog!

  • graeme.aitken.545 - 2012-11-29 08:53

    Drive by Paint ball guns ...Paint Balls filled with enamel paint...how do the camera's work splattered with paint...what a great idea, VIVA PAINT BALL VIVA

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-11-29 08:59

      Hey, that is not a bad idea, not bad at all.

      HenryMoorcroft - 2012-11-29 09:06

      He he he...now you are thinking like a true African...I just love this cantree

  • Forgotten - 2012-11-29 08:55

    BLA BLA BLA!!!!!!!!! Go to bed thieving government!!! Stop robbing us!!!

  • christo.bokhorst - 2012-11-29 08:57

    But its ok for you to vandalise our wallets/finances

  • mmangaliso - 2012-11-29 09:00

    random i'm hungry aren't you?

      Forgotten - 2012-11-29 10:02

      @mmangaliso, yea I am also hungry. Whats for lunch?

      mmangaliso - 2012-11-29 10:45

      fish and chip at nkandla

      Forgotten - 2012-11-29 13:31

      Sounds wonderful!!!! :D

  • aspruyt - 2012-11-29 09:00

    The government must be punished! No E-Tols! Burn it to the ground!

  • njdejager - 2012-11-29 09:01

    Strikes never face the law. Police just monitor while they are breaking and burning???? Why is this different? Oh wait cause it Gov property. When its private property or roads that tax payers pay for then it does not matter my bad. WTF? is our Govnt thinking????

      cemahanyele - 2012-11-29 09:07

      It's somehow going to affect inkandla fundings. You never know.

  • ashley.stroebel - 2012-11-29 09:07

    LOL they gonna arrest whole of Joburg???

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-11-30 09:17

      And Pretoria?

  • davesheer - 2012-11-29 09:10

    ANC = ALL THE NATIONS CRIMINALS!!!!!!!

  • georgi.mcguire - 2012-11-29 09:11

    All vandals should be punished, or is the law only applicable where Government property is concerned?

  • tobie.schalkwyk.7 - 2012-11-29 09:17

    I'll never support the e-tolls in any way whatsoever, but hooligans and vandalists should be behind bars! Take Cosatu to court and let them pay for every sent of damage! In fact, anyone challenging a government with upcoming public violence should be locked up already - before the damage is done!

      carryn.whittaker - 2012-11-29 20:14

      Not advocating hooliganism or vandalism here. However, history is full of downtrodden people that had to threaten and actually commit acts of violence to get a fair shake in life. They are all around you. I bet some of them even live on your street. What should people do when all other avenues have been explored bend over and touch their toes?

  • werner.dippenaar.77 - 2012-11-29 09:21

    Burn it , Burn it, Viva

  • kuno.tschumi.5 - 2012-11-29 09:22

    when do we hear that Government will be punished for thieving, corruption, nepotism, lying, stealing and any other criminal activities and that the law will take its course. These bunch of morons are very good in threatening others, as long as nobody points a finger at them. Well government why dont you do your job for once and follow the law which you try to push down everybody else's throat. We the taxpayers and as your employers had enough.

  • eyesears.handsfeet - 2012-11-29 09:22

    How are the government going to stop EVERYONE who is aggrieved with this e-toll saga, to not distroy "public property"? Numbers in masses, ain't that the saying. Are they going to put every single tax paying citizen into jail. Wonder who will grease their greedy bleddie hands. Strike people strike. The government will be forced to have security at the toll gaantry's 24/7 and the tax payer are NOT going to foot that bill. If government can go on like a bunch of greedy kids, then so can each and every single person of this country. Do what kids do best. Play and break!

      Thabiso Davis Davis - 2012-11-29 09:32

      who ever told this idiot spokesperson what to say must think again: imagine taking the whole Gauteng/rather All tax payers to jail: is that possible? he must heck is ass to his office

  • mat.dewey.33 - 2012-11-29 09:23

    suddenly now they are giving ultimatums about damaging property, where has this attitude been for the last how long??? Wake up government.

  • Dipstix Dup - 2012-11-29 09:26

    Then why the F did u not say what u meant Mr. Dakile. If u cant speak english then dont speak.. If u cant think before u speak then shut up. I bet u will change ur story again because u will realize that u made another mistake again.

  • cathy.vanvollenstee - 2012-11-29 09:27

    So only when it can hurt governments pockets do they decide to actually do something about the lawlessness during the strikes/marches in this country. If however, you own a farm or a mine the police can stand around and watch???

  • lulama.mkunqwana - 2012-11-29 09:28

    It vivid in mind that the people have spoken against the tolling system. The govenment is placed by the people and the people now say no to this form autocracy. Please do not make this country a pay through one's nose country.

  • Dawn Campbell Gibson - 2012-11-29 09:31

    What a pity all the murderers and rapists dont get to face the law.

  • furlong.lubisi.7 - 2012-11-29 09:32

    It does not want to be vandalised. It needs to be chain saw or a grinder

  • JohnDough - 2012-11-29 09:34

    Punish me when you charge Zuma on all his outstanding charges.

  • brendan.r.murphy.9 - 2012-11-29 09:34

    let the tolls BURN!!! Let the rocks fly towards the cameras mounted on the tolls!Bring your angle grinders to mowe the e-toll sings down....for once in my life destruction to property is the way forward haha

      brendan.r.murphy.9 - 2012-11-29 09:36

      anyways seeing as we paying for it we have a right to break it too.

  • henry.peng.98 - 2012-11-29 09:37

    From Reading the comments here and following the court case. Sanral Claims millions support thier E-Toll Project. It suprises me when I see see no one in favor of the e-tolls. Where is the millions of supports they cliam? we are 49M? and not support message for SANRAL. It is only the poor people that read the news and the high rollers dont care? Sanral must stop lying about they are getting support from the public. and the advert that I heard that you only pay R550 and rest of the month free.. I MEAN WTF! Show US that there are alternative roads! (that wont get traffic jams) Let your BLUE LIGHT CONVOY Travel on these roads too.. WHY NOT? So does this mean when we drive on the paid high ways.. we paid to use it.. and we dont HAVE TO MOVE FOR YOUR BLUE LIGHT CONVOY! we can be angry but do you think the public will really do it? Its just saying pay up! and live with it..

  • rudi.debeer.5 - 2012-11-29 09:39

    Come on cable thieves... If they could steal Gautrains cables, surely e-toll won't pose any trouble

      aarchaic - 2012-11-29 11:16

      I heard a rumor that the structures have been made from 100% pure copper...

  • thabo.manganye - 2012-11-29 09:40

    If you think you are more powerful than the mass, we will see u at the ballot box , think its high time we show these people who is the boss, we put u there and we will take you down.

  • wperold - 2012-11-29 09:40

    The sooner it is implemented, the sooner we can start boycotting it.

  • benson.mzwamadodamadala - 2012-11-29 09:46

    I think if the SANRAL was build those road maybe separate from the one we are using it was right to claim their money from those they are going to use. But the problem is one they just extend the one we have been used. If they claim that money they have to speak with goverment not to claim from the motorist. As I said they have to make their road on air not the one that we still need goverment to build from our tax is not from their pocket thats our money. You SANRAL you have to go to hell with your f@@@cken suggestion we are not a readymix track asinyimali.

  • rufus.manyama - 2012-11-29 09:52

    phansi ka e-tolling phansi! viva cosatu viva!

  • AbrahamsTT - 2012-11-29 10:12

    Now SA is turning into a WAR ZONE... What do we do as Citizens? What happens if oneis caught burning or throwing a stone on the Etolls? Will Zwelinzima Vavi Bail us out?

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-11-29 10:13

    There may be a handful of idiots who try to damage the gantries. Your bigger problem is the thousands who will refuse to pay tolls. The question is, can you win the fight against them? Please do not under-estimate the tenacity of the average South African. We may not be special, but what we work hard for is special to us and woe betide the thieves and corrupt government officials who try to take that little away from us. See you on the battle field.