Tolls: Motorists 'reduced to cash cows'

2011-08-12 12:46

Johannesburg - The working class and the poor must stand up against Gauteng tolling because it is an elite driven, money making scheme, the SA Transport & Allied Workers Union (Satawu) said on Friday.

"There is no compelling reason why the working class had to be overburdened by toll fees when they are still fighting for decent living wage," national spokesperson Mamokgethi Molopyane said.

"The Department of Transport has failed to understand the needs of the South African public.

"We call on the working class and poor to unite and stand side by side in fighting this e-tolling monster. Through our marches, demonstrations and pickets we will bring this behemoth to its knees," she said.

Toll tariffs

She said motorists would end up with empty pockets and it made no sense to be tolled on something residents were already taxed on.

Cabinet approved reduced toll tariffs for the Gauteng freeway improvement project (GFIP) phase A1, on Thursday.

Motorcycles would pay 24 cents a kilometre, light motor vehicles 40 cents, medium vehicles R1, and "longer" vehicles R2, Deputy Transport Minister Jeremy Cronin told reporters after Cabinet's regular Wednesday fortnightly meeting.

Qualifying commuter taxis and buses would be exempted entirely.

In addition to the 31% e-tag discount, other discounts applicable would be a time of day discount available to all vehicles, and a frequent user discount for motorcycles and light motor vehicles fitted with an e-tag.

Cabinet had agreed that Transport Minister Sibusiso Ndebele should give effect to the approval in terms of the SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) and National Roads Act.

Motorists 'reduced to cash cows'

Civil rights group AfriForum CEO Kallie Kriel said motorists were being reduced to cash cows.

"It is outrageous that the burden to finance the toll roads now lies with ordinary motorists," Kriel said in a statement.

"Considering that taxis and buses are completely exempted from toll fees."

The situation had worsened since motorists would not be able to claim back their toll expenses from taxable income, unlike transport companies and taxis who would be able to, he said.

"Despite income tax, fuel levies, vehicle licences, and toll fees which motorists have to pay, they will also be expected to pay VAT on toll fees.

"If tax was an investment, it would have been a poor investment, since a large group of tax payers enjoy little - if any advantage from their tax money," Kriel said.

AfriForum will ask its legal team to investigate the possibility of taking legal action against the unfair way ordinary motorists were being discriminated against, he said.

The Young Communist League said it was disgusted over the approved tariffs and asked government to scrap the project entirely.

The league would also mobilise its membership and communities if their call was not heeded, national spokesperson Mafika Mndebele said. 

  • - 2011-08-12 12:51

    If we did maybe something would actually work. If the unions and everyone else can do it, i dont know why we dont. Maybe then, just maybe, we (working class) will be looked at in a different light and they will know they just cant go and take our money when ever they want. We do let them get away with it. I dont know when we are going to eventually stand up for our rights too

      Daemos1 - 2011-08-12 12:53

      we should find out how to fight this really

      sganja - 2011-08-12 13:08

      I'm also on. We are on these together let's stand up. No to Toll.....

      tshepo.theman - 2011-08-12 13:17

      I say no to tolls on A SERIAS note..... government can go to hell if they think i am paying for this... i am not going to pay not once sent... the e tag and the tolls as well as the person coming to claim the money from me for the tolls can go straight to hell.....

      Vlermuisman - 2011-08-12 13:23

      For once tshepo I can agree with you!!

      Born To Fish - 2011-08-12 13:23

      JUST DO NOT PAY! Their is nothing to fight about......Just do not pay

      Kenno - 2011-08-12 13:28

      @Tshepo- you are OK Taxi's are exept!

      cliffarc - 2011-08-12 13:30

      - Tshepo - so then all that other nonsense you normally wright is not serias. Thanks for clearing that up.

      O-Kay - 2011-08-12 13:32

      It would be interesting to see all South Africans finally taking a stand together, against something which is really just another money making scheme. I would join a march to this effect, and I wont even be affected. It's the principle, when do we stop being taking advantage of by the current leaders?

      WiseOwl2 - 2011-08-12 13:35

      This regime is definitely asking for an uprising !

      McDaNife - 2011-08-12 13:37

      Every motorist has to stand up to the government if we want this to succeed. We are being ripped off big time and most of us barely earn a good living salary in the first place.

      Atilla - 2011-08-12 13:39

      @O-kay - I was just thinking the same thing .. finally something we can all agree on that is not race driven!

      sganja - 2011-08-12 14:03

      Today we are united. Viva!!!

      tshepo.theman - 2011-08-12 14:09

      wasp my taxi business is one thing and me driving in my range rover sport is another.... i am not paying a single blaady cent whilst driving to work in pretoria in my range rover sport....

      The Wonderer - 2011-08-12 14:10

      I get charged property tax living in a complex, noisy people both sides & above, so let's see, property tax, salary tax, 14% VAT on top of that, expensive electricity, patrol levies, TV licence, car licence, toll road tax, NHI tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax.... Did I leave anything out?? Pretty soon our entire salary will just go to tax...oh wait, that sounds like a communist the ANC a communist organisation???

      O-Kay - 2011-08-12 14:20

      @TheWonderer, don't you pay tax if you're married, or not married?? ...and surely there's tax for breathing! lol

      Deckard - 2011-08-12 14:32

      Just don't get the eTag. Simple as that. Their system will just clog up and die if they have to send notices to 5 million motorists. - 2011-08-12 14:41

      I wish we couls actually plan a rally like the unions do. how do they do it? how do they get everyone involved from different provinces? get our bosses to give us time off for a cause that could change a few things? (i would even put in leave for a rally like this). we need to plan something, and something soon! - 2011-08-12 14:46

      Even people from western cape and everywhere can march too, this is something we should all unite in and stand up against the government, not just about the tolls, but everything..well the tolls will be a start.. but we need to do something soon rather than just sit back and watch

      Uthando - 2011-08-12 15:15

      Nuff said! I for one will not pay the "bill" & it they insist through legal action, i'll gladly ask the judge to comprise a installment budget. I'll pay that 44c every month till the bill is settled. If I happen to get more bills during my 'arrangement', I'll just put them aside till I've paid the first bill. Fair for me. Who gives a f*ck if it's not fair to them! Nobody said they should take a loan without my consent (and they expect me to pay for that same loan) *shrug* What's the worst that can happen - arrest me? For what? For struggling to make ends meet?? Ha!

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-12 15:15

      I already avoid highways and only take backroads, so that when the tolls come into effect, I have no need to panic - and also no need to pay. The ANC and SANRAL can go to hell - we pay enough already!!!

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-12 15:20

      BTW would I be right in assuming that the tollroads come into effect on a given date - there are highways that are far from completion yet have tollgates. Just drive to Boksburg on the Witbank highway - it's super-dangerous with the way they're doing roadworks - would they be tolled despite not even being decent, let alone finished?

      birdman - 2011-08-12 15:51

      All toll roads are an abomination devised by big construction comapnies and a willing government. Big construction (BC) "put up" the roads in partnership with government (who pay nothing for the road). BC then has carte blanche to charge tolls on "their" road ad infinitum, raking in billions over the years. For example, the Fields Hill bypass toll was the first proper toll road in SA back in 1983. "They" said that as soon as the new road section was paid for, the toll gate would be removed. The road was paid for in 18 months! So for 27 years "they" have been creaming it! We don't want their toll roads! What happened to the Dept of Road Works who were charged to building roads? Note to government (ANC) All roads in this country have been paid for IN FULL - For more information, about this, see TAX PAYER! The N3 to Escourt was always there as motorway. Then "they" tolled at Mooi River - on a road that was alway there! It is rediculous that we pay and pay and pay. This must stop now! Like the special "gees" that brought the peoples of our country together for the Soccer World Cup, this may be another time when we as a nation can stand together and fight for our right not to be taxed to death!

      Bewildered - 2011-08-12 17:37

      I think if all working ppl took their monthly paycheque and handed it to the government, they still wouldn't have enough money. We can't afford our government, they are too expensive

      Henk - 2011-08-13 08:05


  • Goose - 2011-08-12 12:54

    For the 1st time ever....I am prepared to take leave from work and march in the streets to fight this toll system to the death! I will NOT pay the tolls and will ignore the bills received in the post! We as the citizens of SA, say so. The ONLY solution acceptable is to pay maybe 10c a litre extra on the fuel price. Sorry, but ALL road users(including taxis and buses) must pay as they use the roads! I don't think I have ever felt so strongly about anything in the new SA. The ANC can get stuffed if they think I will contribute to this blatant theft!

      Dros - 2011-08-12 13:11

      Well said Goose and hope that we can show in one voice that we are sick and tired of being taxed to death - i share your fustration and will not contribute in the manner they propose - do i now let my kids future be compromised to fund their incompetence... i don't think so.

      Snowbuddy - 2011-08-12 13:13

      If they can't get it right with the tolling system to suck more money from us, they will definitely incorporate it somewhere else like only they know how - we already pay more than enough for petrol and taxes and still there is no improvement of any service, in fact the contrary is true ... there is absolutely NO service in this country. The money is just disappearing on " them living the life" that WE must pay for! With the previous government at least the country was still in one piece, there was still law and order, people still had control of the country's finances and service delivery was still something to be proud of ... look at what's happening now ...! Never before has so much money gone to waste!

      David - 2011-08-12 13:15

      With you mate

      cliffarc - 2011-08-12 13:17

      - The days of screwing the soft target civilians in this country is over. It's time to say no to this thieving government.

      Marc - 2011-08-12 13:18

      Well done Goose - fully endorse your passion and intentions. I'll be next to you and they'll be hundreds of thousands of others too. I wouldn't even give these worthless thieves, the ruling junta that is, one further zack for fuel either. Widespread civil disobedience on this one. The next target of our passionate distaste and civil rebellion is the National Healh Insurance. Yet another communist (you thought socialist!!) ploy to steal ever more hard-earned cash from the productive part of society. Patience is at an end. Sod them all.

      Peacock - 2011-08-12 13:26

      @ snowbuddy - money is not going to waste, Stupid thought, It will find its way into somebodys bank account. AND DO NOT FORGET about the NHI that we are going to be taxed on!. ALL tax payers will pay for that so that ALL can get free health. Mmmmm 8% to support 100% also how much extra will we be taxed for a programme that has failed else where in the world, and when it fails, we will STILL be taxed because that "tax" is supporting the corrupt gov't life style. Don't forget Malema will want his share of the pie as well. So 2 new taxes on top of everything else!!

      YasButIDunno - 2011-08-12 13:37

      I'm in. I travel on the N3 every morning, for the past 10 - 12 weeks all the overhead lights have been burning 24/7 on the stretch between London Road and Gilooly's Interchange. Who the hell is supposed to pay for the electricity? If they can't even program a timer switch, just how do they hope to administer a tolling system that even the Aussies couldn't get to work? Sorry cadres, no money from me.

      asitis - 2011-08-12 17:10

      lets circulate a call to everyone we know via facebook or BBM to take to the streets for a peaceful (and i emphasize Peaceful) protest March. Let's take to the streets.

      tryanything - 2011-08-13 07:04

      Do not register for an etag...Whatever you do .They battle to send aarto notices because of the cost and this will help cripple them..

      tryanything - 2011-08-13 07:07

      Do not register for an etag Rather wait for the bill in the post

  • DW - 2011-08-12 12:55

    Poor people dont own cars so wont be affected. They wont strike against this. Working class people who use taxis wont be affected. They wont strike against this. If you are middle class, own a car and have a job, welcome to the world of the cash cow - YOU! YOU are now responsible, by means of every tax possible, to pay for all the schemes the ANC promises to their voters. Either vote against them or live with it.

      Kenneth - 2011-08-12 13:06

      Wrong, what about the trucks that deliver groceries to pick n pay etc, tell your people who don't have cars how it'll affect them, educate them...

      PrinceCharle - 2011-08-12 13:17

      Yep, watch those prices rise...

      Johan van Zyl - 2011-08-12 13:18

      Poor people will be affected as trucks being charged R2 a kilometer will offset that costs from supplier to distributor to wholesaler to retailer down to the customer.

      Stevie - 2011-08-12 13:38

      The poor will indeed be affected indirectly. They will see the toll gantries as their taxi drives under them, and they will see the price of food increasing, but will they put 2 and 2 together... I wonder. When it comes to understanding the economic impact of policy, the poor are notoriously bad at making these calculations, as well as notoriously quick to get behind the first charismatic radical that claims to have their interests at heart. Like it or not, the poor are fickle and I would not rely on them to "do the right thing".

      Boerseun - 2011-08-12 15:41

      How about the trucks blocking all the roads, like in France. It is time that government is made the way it should be: Scared servants of the people.

      Anonymous - 2011-08-12 16:38

      DW you very wrong there!!! They will, if you charge companies extra on their transport fees, that means food will go up, petrol will go up, products will be more expensive, So think carefully, its not only gonna affect motorists it will affect everyone, and diminish the middle class and we will only have rich people and poor people!!! No Middle class... It is time for people all over SA to realise that it does not only affect one thing, it affects the cost of everything!!!

  • Lab-Rat - 2011-08-12 12:56

    Give me a date and time and I'll be there with my 'picket'. This is crazy and hopefully we'll all be able to stand together on this one.

      David - 2011-08-12 13:16

      with you

      Marc - 2011-08-12 14:01

      Good one Lab Rat. The hassle in the past getting the productive part of society in SA to "take part" - it's a bit like herding cats.

  • Njamme - 2011-08-12 12:56

    Sis, while they'll be using it free. And we'll be paying for them to get rich. Soon they will make us pay for going to the next street on foot. Agaaaa mann

  • Dros - 2011-08-12 12:56

    Now this is one Toyi-Toyi demonstration i will support and all in Gauteng can shout in one voice of our dissaproval.

      Sceptic - 2011-08-13 18:26

      +2 (me and wife)

  • JacobR - 2011-08-12 12:56

    Nothing new, we are used to being cash cows!

  • daaivark - 2011-08-12 12:58

    Use public transport like the real poor of this country.

      Poloyatonki - 2011-08-12 13:05

      I bet you have never been in a taxi.

      Wayne - 2011-08-12 13:13


      PB - 2011-08-12 13:15

      You like stirring, don't you? If there was reliable public transport, there would be much less cars on the road. But there isn't - twat.

      daaivark - 2011-08-12 13:15

      With respect, I did away with my car some years ago and now use trains and taxis on a daily basis.

      Dal68 - 2011-08-12 13:15

      Why should I use public transport like the poor if I work hard to gain the priviledge of driving my own car?

      Poloyatonki - 2011-08-12 13:19

      Dal68..then pay the toll fee and shut up.

      Mercenary - 2011-08-12 13:20

      @ daaivark Talk your SH*&T somewhere els.

      Dal68 - 2011-08-12 13:22

      @ Poloniwanki are an idiot

      Wayne - 2011-08-12 13:27

      @daaivark - Are you perhaps the gom sniffing bum on the corner of voortrekker?

      Dal68 - 2011-08-12 13:33

      @ Poloniwanki, sorry no idiot on this side, but you make it obvious you are one. Now go play outside on the highway

      Atilla - 2011-08-12 13:47

      To use your own words .. "how is that comment helpful". Finally we have an issue that most people agree on, can't you see that?

      daaivark - 2011-08-12 13:48

      Mercenary and Wayne. No.

      ReThan - 2011-08-12 13:48

      I really really thought you had died Polopo3s. When is the day coming when you roll in a Taxi and you guts gets spewed all over the highway? because the road will have more reason being there than you. STFU you piece of sh1t.

      daaivark - 2011-08-12 13:57

      So very civilised.

      daaivark - 2011-08-12 14:02

      Atilla, so are you saying that becasue everyone else here is in agreement I should also agree? Are we sheep? I disagree with them because I think they are wrong, so no, I will not agree.

      cliffarc - 2011-08-12 14:08

      - daaivark - with a name like that ,I'd go easy on the use of the word civilised.

      Dal68 - 2011-08-12 14:09

      @ daaivark, I again ask you the question why should we use the public transport (none existant at best) if we work to achieve the priviledge of buying our own cars?

      O-Kay - 2011-08-12 14:26

      @Daaivark, if we all stop using our cars, and use public transport, how do you suppose the government will pay for the toll system they have just installed at an exhorbitant price?? That's right..... more tax! I for one, being a woman will not catch a taxi as I value my life and would like to come home to my children every night. Secondly, I will not put my children into a taxi full stop, never mind the fact that South African law expects us to strap our children and oursleves into a vehicle. I love my children so your suggestion doesn't work for me. ...and no, there is no train service from my home to where I work.

      Shrek - 2011-08-12 14:32

      I have been here for a while reading your comments and you remind me of an over the hill language teacher that has been refused Viagra. You do not want to retire as you don't have any hobbies and would be dead in a week. Please try to stay of intelectual forums and go play bowls or something.

      cliffarc - 2011-08-12 14:35

      - daivark - I'd say your argument did'nt hold up to close scrutiny.

      Candy - 2011-08-12 14:58

      @Daaivark With no disrespect I dont know where you are living in SA that it is actually safe to take public transport, I, myself I am too scared to even walk on the streets of most areas in fear of theft, murder or rape. I own a car to be safe (and even then with the mongrals in this country that isnt even promised to me), Ask any person on a taxi or train if they would rather have their own transport or if most of the time they fear they will either be driven around neglegently, get robbed etc. I bet we know most of their answers

      Peg-Leg-Sven - 2011-08-12 15:58

      Candy, he lives in the western Cape and works for one of the provincial hospitals. Spends most of his day here in cyberspace with the full permission and understanding of his superiors. Or at least that is what he maintains.

  • Civil_Rights - 2011-08-12 12:58

    Bomb the Toll Gates

      PB - 2011-08-12 13:16

      Why do you want to sink to gutter-style fighting? There are other ways.

      Civil_Rights - 2011-08-12 13:37

      PB what other alternative do you have in mind. They reduced the price from 49c to 40c, that's is a mere drop in the price. Government has already given the go ahead, so what alternative can they possible be at this stage. Fighting the toll gates the legal way will be time consuming and costly.While we are battling in court the tolls will be effective and will be losing money through the courts and toll gates.

      Stevie - 2011-08-12 13:43

      That would be breaking the law. Remember the gantry cameras can also be used to calculate average speed so still have their uses with regards to catching speedsters. It's the arbitrary tolls that need to go.

      Marc - 2011-08-12 14:03

      Its only a matter of time.

      asitis - 2011-08-12 17:12

      We then stoop down to their level...CRIMINALS

  • Prof - 2011-08-12 12:58

    We have voted them in and this is how the thank us. Come 2014 I will vote for a different party.

  • Tina - 2011-08-12 12:59

    Enough now, we are getting sucked dry with all we have to pay. Enough already!

  • Mayaziwe - 2011-08-12 13:00

    I see you guys at NEWS24 read as well. This story (same title) has been on timeslive for quite a while. Very original.... Just had a thought...maybe start my own news site and just cut and paste from everywhere...or is that how it works?!

      rdeacon - 2011-08-12 13:17

      are you a moron? its called SAPA, they all pay for the same story....

      Mayaziwe - 2011-08-12 13:57

      Oops sorry - then maybe NEWS24's payment was a bit slow or delayed or short or ....My recommendation is read rather...they appear to be paying quicker or more for the same news. Just a thought...use it don't use...from one moron to someone else.

      O-Kay - 2011-08-12 14:29

      ....good ad!

      Mayaziwe - 2011-08-12 14:36

      No ad...just someone who likes being informed quicker than the average NEWS24 reader it appears.

  • Zizo Snr - 2011-08-12 13:00

    For once afriforum is tackling an issue that affects all races, but I still have my reservation. They remain a k*k forum for blacks.

      Mercenary - 2011-08-12 13:06

      @Zizo No sir, They are not k&k. They are fighting against inequality and unfair practices by government for all. It might be your perception because it is a “white union”

      Zizo Snr - 2011-08-12 13:24

      They have been fighting against farm murders, provide with a case where they fight for farm labourers' rights....

      Taboo - 2011-08-12 13:29

      Thats how i feel about the ANC.

      Mercenary - 2011-08-12 13:36

      @ Zizo You are talking about murder here Zizo. Come on man, you can't be so dof!!! Think clearly man....I know you can. I don't need to spell it out.

      Boerseun - 2011-08-12 15:43

      No, a truth forum for blacks. Not selective truth or lies like you believe.

  • CC - 2011-08-12 13:00

    Get yourself a minibus taxi, register as a "qualifying" taxi, a couple of bumbper stickers and there you go :-)

      Sonneblom1971 - 2011-08-12 13:37

      And don't forget to drive like a idiot!

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-12 15:20

      Spray your plates with 3 coats of varnish - the flash bounces back...

  • letsee - 2011-08-12 13:00

    Here is Jeremy, a communist made deputy minister who became a capitalist! I counted on him to protect my interests, scrap the toll gates and he is the one that took it to the cabinet !!!! Jeremy you let your fellows down and I cancelled my SACP membership. Down with you and the SACP. You sold your soul for a salary in the government.

  • Thandi - 2011-08-12 13:00

    Oh dear - I still don't know when I have to start using my false number plates. I sincerely hope that the roads are going to be completed before they start charging. Judging by the rate at which progress is being made, i reckon it should be about another two years before all work is complete. The 'freeways' we are currently faced with are extremely dangerous, what with sudden 'steps' where tarring is in progress, changing surface, no visible road markings and so-called safety barriers that in themselves present extremely dangerous situations. Pay to drive through construction sites at freeway rates - you must be kidding.

  • William - 2011-08-12 13:02

    Who cares what the cabinet says. They are bunch of illeterate corrupt politicians caring less about the poor. Let more tenders come and their stomach grows pigs. I do not care what they say. They do not care for us anyway.

      Weetiemeer - 2011-08-12 13:39

      I care what they say, because they are living of me and you ....

      Weetiemeer - 2011-08-12 13:40


  • neo_acheron - 2011-08-12 13:02

    Perhaps the entire working class should strike for a whole day. Looks like its the only way for this retarded government to wake the hell up. I will join in, as these toll roads will affect me and almost everyone else where I work. To the rich, this is just another "fee" to pay so they can race down the highway at 160km/h in their BMW X5s, where for me this would almost double my traveling costs in my fuel saving hatchback. When on the highway travelling at a constant speed of about 110km/h my car can get approx 6l/100km fuel consumption, that's about R60 for every 100km and 60c per km on petrol alone. With these retarded tolls, it would be R1 per km. How the F&%$ do these IDIOTS justify this???

      Kevin - 2011-08-12 13:45


      Marc - 2011-08-12 15:16

      Hey Neo, here's how they justify it. Check out on 'terrestrial television', you know, the one you get to watch in return for your annual licence fee and get to view only 200 Dettol adverts per night for no extra charge..... anyway, on those channels, you will see lots and lots of ANC propaganda about the awful past and all the terrible stuff that was done to them......this is why they feel justified in taking from you. They have convinced themselves with their slanted recollections, and gross exaggerations, that no amount of robbing you will ever repay they for those continuously reminisced "bad old days", so that means they can take and take and take and still be morally justified in doing so. They believe they have a monopoly on human suffering.

      Bambi - 2011-08-12 16:45

      @Marc and doesn't it just make you sick when they demand things like food even when you're suffering too, you say the word no and they act like you're the biggest piece of crap to ever walk God's green earth. I try not to get angry or to hate but government makes it hard not to hold on and let the anger and resentment fester - I could easily walk to Zuma's house right now and scream abuse at him through the gate - this makes me sick!!!

      tryanything - 2011-08-13 07:17

      A perfectly legal way is to fill a leave form for a designated Toll Day protest. Sit at home and empty the Freeway do some other type of chilling at not register for e tag or discounts ...

  • rustic - 2011-08-12 13:03

    Watch out SA Gvt! When one has Left and Right and Black and White singing the same song, they are more powerful than your greedy tendencies.

      Atilla - 2011-08-12 13:50

      I like your thinking!

      Mr Hobbit - 2011-08-12 14:23

      Hell yeah! I can't believe that the Government has united us all, finally. Hah ha ha - Mhlungu's agreeing with SATAWU and the Young Communists League! By exempting Taxis and buses, arch communist Cronin thought he could pull the teeth of opposition to his capitalist pillaging of the poor. Oh my soul! ROLLING ON THE FLOOR...

      Boerseun - 2011-08-12 15:44

      Now that is a fact. We should make them scared and be servants of the people. Where have you ever seen a servant drive a Hummer or Merc etc/ it is sick.

  • jeremy - 2011-08-12 13:04

    It's not just the "working class." It's everyone who uses the highways. I appeal to all those who oppose the tolling of the highways to stand together and stop slagging each other off. And can someone please come up with a realistic idea as to HOW we can all oppose these ruinous fees, so we call join in.....

      Gustav - 2011-08-13 09:52

      Dont pay and dont register for e-tag. Lets see how the government deals with 5 million road users refusing to pay the fees

  • Wigwam - 2011-08-12 13:07

    I've never toyi-toyi'ed before, but I think its time I started! If Government could afford to grant a 2.5bil loan to Swaziland, they can afford to pay for this themselves. Especially seeing as how it took them 3 times as long [at a cost of 3 times more no doubt] to re-do a highway that was fine to begin with. Resulting in longer commute times during the work and then bumpy roads which still had to be re-done twice over afterwards! And we still need to now pay for this?! Hell No! Government need to realise that just because someone has a job, doesn't mean they have secret millions stashed in their back pockets.

  • Peacock - 2011-08-12 13:09

    Why should the taxi's be exempt? Just goes to show how scared the Gov't is of the Taxi ass'ns. A light car with 4 people will be charged R 10 per person per km. A Taxi with 20 people will be charged R 2 per person per km So why are we being ripped off and the taxi's allowed to get away scot free - Bluddy discrimination. Once again it will be apartheids fault and the whites will be blamed so therefore they must be punished. It seems that the gov't can not uplift the poor, so they are taking the established DOWN to the poor level.

      As-it-is - 2011-08-12 13:17

      The toll costs will reach all final consumers after transport companies pass on their costs.

      tryanything - 2011-08-13 07:19

      One of the biggest problems in this country is white apathy

  • Arno Oosthuizen - 2011-08-12 13:09

    Why in the name of SUPER TAX are we tolerating this? Its not like we are working our asses off and paying exorbitant amounts of tax on everything but taking a piss.Before we know it they'll taxing that as well.I pay my taxes so the roads can be built and maintained,so the running costs of the country can be covered.NOT or some bureaucratic jerk off to run around in his bloody fancy car en suck down expensive booze in his over sized house with a bunch of prostitutes,and then charge me again for the thing I've already paid too much for. Mark my words.People will tear down these toll booths,and there will be another tax hike to pay for the damages...when will it end people?When will it end?

      Stevie - 2011-08-12 13:53

      How about 2014?

  • MrDC - 2011-08-12 13:10

    Perhaps we should let them switch the tolls on. Once they're on, there may be a guarantee that a group of disgruntled tax payers will burn and destroy every toll gate down, just like they do the buses and train stations when they unhappy with them.

  • Henry - 2011-08-12 13:11

    Where is all the money that they collect on taxes from petrol????

  • As-it-is - 2011-08-12 13:11

    The people must unite and burn down these toll structures.

  • Stryder - 2011-08-12 13:11

    Buy the E-Tag and then leave it at home. When they send you the bill tell them that the e-tag is not working. If enough people do this life will be very difficult for them.

      tryanything - 2011-08-13 07:20

      Do not get an etag...full stop..

  • 1gascan - 2011-08-12 13:12

    For the first time ever, I will march, and I will block the highway and toyi toyi. I am sick of the government using our taxes for their own enrichment. I already pay 5-fold for the roads I use.

  • As-it-is - 2011-08-12 13:13

    Sbu Ndebele should be fired for coughing up these ridiculous fees. Where do this people think the money must come from? Burn Burn Burn toll road structures... VIVA

  • Henk van Tonder - 2011-08-12 13:13

    I hope someone takes a 12 bore shotgun and shoots every single camera on those numberplate ID booms each and every time they fix them until they get the message. Or better still steal the cable leading to them.

      As-it-is - 2011-08-12 13:20

      I have a shotgun. where can we meet?

      Stevie - 2011-08-12 13:57

      A shotgun? That's like dissecting a mosquito with a panga. Just shoot the lens out with a .22, or if not, paint it with a paintball gun.

  • Cheekiechops - 2011-08-12 13:13

    Time to buy a TAXI .

  • Mark - 2011-08-12 13:14

    The taxi associations seem to govern the Government... If the government cant even control one man julius malema, how the hell are they going to control thousands of angry taxi drivers - bullying by the taxi associations clearly works.... It shows that the rest of us must stick together and do the same...

  • mzanzirules - 2011-08-12 13:15

    Now if only we as South Africans can really unite on this and show government we're not push overs it will be one of South Africa's best days yet, obviously I shout from the top of my lungs we do so peacefully, no intimidation not fighting no violence but a peaceful protest to indicate to government that taxation is not a wealth creation scheme but a poverty accelerator!

  • mogirl - 2011-08-12 13:16

    I smell a london type of strike looming

      Stevie - 2011-08-12 14:00

      I sincerely hope not. We are not "unemployed delinquent youths". We are the middle class foundation of the economy, thus we do actually have something to lose by breaking the law. A lot to lose, in fact.

  • Kradenko - 2011-08-12 13:16

    Go for gold... I for one am not paying this... hopefully people will see this and push this all the way back. I for one object to being abused financially.

  • Freddie - 2011-08-12 13:17

    At last the ANC has united the country... against it. Let's hope this is just the start.

  • mogirl - 2011-08-12 13:18

    The govt really does not think. Don't they know basic economics? toll gates= increase in expenses for delivery companies= increase in the price of foods (among other things)= inaffordability of food by the poor= hunger. Simple, but not so for the government because they area bunch of MORONS!!!!

  • John - 2011-08-12 13:19

    Yes just let the public fork the bill for useless solutions as always promote the failures -- Instead of finding real tangible value adding solutions and thereby fostering innovation and economic growth. Tollgates = FAIL

  • Inferno - 2011-08-12 13:20

    It's time to finally do something!!! Where are we gonna strike?? Let's see what happens when the working class stops working!! BOYCOTT THE SYSTEM!!! THEY WILL NOT SEE A CENT OF MINE!!!!

  • Daveza - 2011-08-12 13:21

    We've had RDP housing, now it's time for JDP tolling. Just Don't Pay.

  • erazor - 2011-08-12 13:24

    We can ALL do something to protest. I will be doing two things and I invite everybody to join me. Firstly, slow down to the freeway minimum speed of 40km/h as you pass toll gantries. If only a few people do this the freeways will be permanently gridlocked. Secondly, do not buy and e-tag and do not set up a toll account. Let them fine you and don't pay anything until summons is issued. If we all do this then Sanral will never be able to enforce all the summonses. Get up, stand up!!!

      tryanything - 2011-08-12 19:44


  • Inferno - 2011-08-12 13:25

    And what a kick in the teeth that the taxi's don't have to pay!! Because they they'll have a violent problem, so let's pick on those who let themsleves be picked on!!! STRIKE!!!! LETS TURN THE TABLES FOR A CHANGE!!!!

  • Marius - 2011-08-12 13:26

    Its very simple: VANDALIZE these toll gates!

  • wandilec - 2011-08-12 13:26

    maybe its time to overthrow this gov cause it aint working for the working class, i am not for violent but clearly the minister of transport is an idiot therefore one cannot reason with him. why should i listen to a system that never listen to me?

  • Centronix - 2011-08-12 13:27

    Let's stand united in this. We. Will. Win

  • Michael - 2011-08-12 13:28

    actually the implemetation of the toll gate was to encourage majority of the people to use public transport. and they won't be any traffic on the highway so that THE PRESIDENT & and his ministers won't be stuck in the traffic

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-08-12 17:26

      What PUBLIC transport mate??? Lets get real here... Who amongst the "working class" would drive to work if there was a safe and reliable PUBLIC transport system...? I'd LOVE to catch a train to work each day and chill instead of dealing with the road systems in SA and some of the other fools using them! The so called "public transport system" in SA is actually a privatized enterprise... Government figure heads have strong connections to these PRIVATE enterprises, lets not all act silly at once!!!! The Actual public transport provided by the Government is a total mess and not worth a damn! It's far too dangerous and unreliable to be used by average Joe and his wife and kids! We all know this! We are being monopolized here BY THE GOVERNMENT, the consumer protection act which was implemented by these fools must cover monopoly as well and will be the death of their tolling system... ie: I am just NOT satisfied with the product I purchased/used and I DEMAND my money BACK/REFUSE TO PAY! I haven't searched it yet but I'm interested to find out just how highly we are taxed in SA on a whole including VAT/PAYE/Business tax/Levies/Rates/Tolls/UIF/ETC in comparison to other countries and then also I'd like to have our Government services we receive back for our taxes evaluated and given a value by an independent entity and see if we are even close to "GETTING WHAT WE PAYING FOR"?!?!

  • Kevin - 2011-08-12 13:31

    I was so hoping some pissed off group would yank down all the toll towers . Show those Brits we can be just as bad as them .

  • Thorn - 2011-08-12 13:32

    Add to the list of direct & indirect taxes that we South Africans have to put up with, considering that we have to pay for services that one would normally expect a well run country to provide or at least subsidise: Income Tax PAYE UIF VAT Fuel Levy RAF Contribution Tolls Sin Taxes Private Healthcare Private Security Private Transport ...

      Anso - 2011-08-12 13:42

      and the list goes on......

  • Lisa Kane - 2011-08-12 13:33

    Why shouldn't we pay tolls? Roads are a public service just like electricity and water. It's just a freak of history (and thanks to lots of lobbying by Ford, GM and the boys in the 1920s and 1930s) that's it's been free for so long.

      mogirl - 2011-08-12 13:37

      Maybe if we earned a decent living we wouldn't be complaining. You obviously live a posh lifestyle hence a R700+ off your salary per month is peanuts.

      Anso - 2011-08-12 13:43

      We are paying for the roads thru Fuel levy...

      Wayne - 2011-08-12 13:56

      Lisa Kane are you stupid or what? The tax that we are currently paying is for the maintenance of the road (Fuel levy etc), this tolling system is just another way for the government to milk more money out of us. How you are able to consort in an intellectual discussion with your husband is beyond me!

      daaivark - 2011-08-12 13:58

      YES LISA!!

      Chuck Norris - 2011-08-12 14:34

      Lisa, Are you serious!? For every R10.00 you earn, the government is already taking approx R6.00 and still they want more. Are you happy with the R4.00 you are getting?

      oldpilot - 2011-08-12 15:06

      At least R20 BILLION is taken from motorists in Fuel Tax alone, annually - this does not include other taxes on fuel such as: Equalisation Fund levy Customs & Excise levy Road Accident Fund (RAF) Slate levy All taxes on fuel presently represent no less than 30% of the price of fuel! The Fuel Tax is in fact supposed to pay for road improvements and maintenance but has for many years been diverted to the general fiscus for use elsewhere. Thus motorists are double-taxed by these new tolls. Double taxation is generally seen as an unacceptable and unjust means of raising revenue by all governments. Lisa - if your argument was correct, then why should not other beneficiaries of roads be directly taxed as well? - people who buy stuff in shops which has been transported by road should then be paying, on top of VAT, a separate "Road Delivery Tax", and companies receiving deliveries by truck should have a tax added to that cost and so on! No - these tolls, at any price, are unacceptable and must be stopped by protest action. If that means violence, which I think we will see happen, then so be it. But a first step will be to NOT buy an e-tag and thus bring the entire system to a halt by forcing non-electronic methods of cash collection. The entire imported first-world technology used relies on the sheeple playing by the 'rules' and using e-tags - without this it is doomed to fail and to cost more to administer than it is worth!

  • SabaticalG - 2011-08-12 13:34

    where when and how?? im willing to take off work run around and break some stuff and burn some tires and bomb the told road machines.... but where how when...