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Top cop, sangoma and wet dog

2013-06-23 20:38

Johannesburg - Gauteng police chief Lieutenant General Mzwandile Petros has allegedly roped in a sangoma to investigate after a break-in at his Parktown, Johannesburg, office.

Captain Nomathemba Mgwebile, the sangoma who works as an executive secretary in Petros' office, was brought in to "sniff out" those responsible for the burglary on Monday.

Petros' office was broken into on the eve of Major General Tirhani Maswanganyi's murder, but nothing was stolen from it.

The suspects dug a hole through the ceiling of one of the toilets and walked into the police chief's office.

Three independent sources told City Press that Petros called Mgwebile to perform sangoma rituals in an attempt to identify those responsible for the incident.

Mgwebile, who is known as “Vumani Mahosi” and moved with Petros to Gauteng when he was appointed from the Western Cape in 2010, told a team of investigators she smelt "the smell of a wet dog" in Petros' office.

"But we don't know what she meant by that. I think it's sangoma language," said a police officer with direct knowledge of the investigation.

The officer said Petros had refused to use his office since the incident as he suspected spy cameras were planted and his office line was bugged.

Detectives combed the entire office looking for any spy cameras, but found nothing.

Petros’ spokesperson, Brigadier Neville Malila, didn't respond to specific questions about Mgwebile's role, her involvement in criminal investigations and whether part of her job is to advise Petros. - Additional reporting by Adriaan Basson, City Press

Comments
  • Pieter Pohl - 2013-06-23 20:46

    African solutions for african problems?

      Mduzo Loco Santana - 2013-06-23 21:39

      you got that right, it's one of those.

      Jones Mkandawire - 2013-06-24 06:27

      And im a proud african if my culture finally gets recognition in mainstream national duties. Halala Mzwa

      Maartins Siphiso - 2013-06-24 07:18

      A Sangoma is a barbaric & backward fable - Your culture needs to be transformed - Get a proper education, not a failed ANC matric passout.

      Kortbroek Du Plessis - 2013-06-24 07:52

      These comrades must really be the envy of Scotland Yard, lol I think not!

      Marinda Hibbers Pretorius - 2013-06-24 08:11

      @Jones...eish...look at the calender, it is the 24/June 2013 not the 24 June 1713

      Tgif Wtfaw - 2013-06-24 09:45

      Slowly on the Puza there Petros you are starting halucinate

      Willem de Haan - 2013-06-24 10:17

      Perhaps there is more method in this madness than meets the eye. Remember that many blacks still believe in the presence of tikoloshe and impundulu and abantu bomlambu and other wonderful sprites. If the perpetrator(s) were black this sangoma might just put the fear of hell into them - being smelled out usually ends in death by fire.

      Erich Goosen - 2013-06-24 10:56

      I notice that the sangoma came with the General from the Cape. I just wonder if he should not get a second opinion, this sangoma probably knew the layout of his office. It not my dog. She gets only bathed in the summer!!

      Gideon Van Der Walt - 2013-06-24 11:28

      I also smell something....BS

  • AntikZa - 2013-06-23 20:48

    Bwhaaaaaaa. What a joke. So just replace all the detectives with sangomas. Obviously where the top bras place their confidence.

      SharonE - 2013-06-23 21:34

      "But we don't know what she meant by that. I think it's sangoma language" Don't forget to also employ sangoma translators, as the police don't seem to understand sangomaspeak..

      Erich Goosen - 2013-06-24 11:05

      This is a serious case which not even Piet Beyleveld can solve. In view of the 'wet dog' clue, I suggest that they engage the dog squad to try and sniff out this wet dog.

  • Scouter Four-One - 2013-06-23 20:49

    No hope whatsoever with this type of mentality at work in the Police.

      Kortbroek Du Plessis - 2013-06-24 08:00

      Well the commander in chief is a Zulu herd boy, what did you expect!

      Erich Goosen - 2013-06-24 11:07

      Let us be fair to the sangoma. The chances of this case being solved by the SAP are NIL. That is why the General decided to call on the sangoma, chances are much better to get a positive result.

  • proudlysa - 2013-06-23 20:50

    I thought the SA Police are supposed to investigate burglaries and catch the "crooks". Eish. No wonder we are the laughing stock of the world!! What a joke

  • Xolile Namane - 2013-06-23 20:53

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

      Theo Schoeman - 2013-06-23 21:21

      The smell a wet dog is the TOP police dog that wet himself when he smelled the burglars

  • Wikus Erasmus - 2013-06-23 20:54

    I'll also put my money on the sangoma.... Petros knows the calibre of his detectives.....

  • John Smith - 2013-06-23 20:55

    SHAME

  • Sello Molekwa - 2013-06-23 21:01

    If that's true then it's an admission by the top cop that you cant just rely on the police. Makes the rest of us think, doesnt it?

  • Stan K Mupesa - 2013-06-23 21:01

    Requesting 4 ur services in Zim

  • Nicholas Skhumbuzo Vilakazi - 2013-06-23 21:05

    I wonder how much is the consultation and who is going to pay, the Top cop or Government?

      Sterling Ferguson - 2013-06-23 22:36

      Many people in Africa don't know that voodoo priests and Sangomas have more influence over the people than the government. This is true for most of black Africa and Haiti. This is why Aristides felt at home when he was living in SA. The small black elite all try to pretend that they have moved beyond this superstition beliefs, but many of them are running around putting curses on people. Superstition in Africa is what keeping Africa backward, and the leaders in Africa aren't trying to lead the people away from this crap. The media in SA is always trying to explain events from a Western perspective, but in black Africa superstition is what counts.

  • Garth Baldwin - 2013-06-23 21:11

    he sounds a bit paranoid too!! bugged office.. hidden cameras.. maybe even a dead dog in his top drawer??

      Patricia Dewet - 2013-06-23 23:33

      They are all paranoid, moving around with body guards, to scared to walk down the street alone. Living in a dream world, a sangoma to do what, they are only living off the superstitions of the people.

  • Akash Singh - 2013-06-23 21:12

    Is this a joke?

      Marinda Hibbers Pretorius - 2013-06-24 08:14

      Sadly no...

  • John Smith - 2013-06-23 21:13

    Criminals fear the powers of the sangoma far more than the police.

  • gratton.rush - 2013-06-23 21:14

    I smell a rat

      vicki.scheepers - 2013-06-24 05:24

      No, not rat .... Wet dog

  • JMaree - 2013-06-23 21:14

    Explains alot...

  • HJS - 2013-06-23 21:17

    Oh Boy.... now we need to be really concerned about the SAPS in Gauteng.

      Sakhekile Sakieman - 2013-06-24 03:27

      i disagree

  • Muke Matshaba - 2013-06-23 21:28

    Oh poor Mzwandile,,,The guy cant trust his own ditectives its a shame. Next time i rather run to sangomas instead of my nearest cop station just like our lietunant general .

  • Sapper_Coetzee - 2013-06-23 21:28

    So if sangomas investigate break ins. What are the tax payers paying the police to do?

      Thanduxolo Galada - 2013-06-23 21:51

      Hehehe some people are simples!

  • Petro Jahnel - 2013-06-23 21:34

    That explains a lot!!

  • Zuki Tshwete - 2013-06-23 21:38

    Isn't it ironic - don't u think?

  • Justin Aguy - 2013-06-23 21:46

    What a joke

  • Rory Neil Price - 2013-06-23 21:46

    Wow, all we need is Sangomas, fire the Police, at least it will prevent corruption

  • Tiaan Truter - 2013-06-23 21:50

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA a sangoma !!!!!!! omg thats funny

  • Waggie - 2013-06-23 21:56

    Wet dog? Smelling his top lip. Back to the bush with you lot please.

  • Mokgethoa Molelemane - 2013-06-23 22:00

    What is this, some kind of a prank. He has been surrounding himself with buddies and homies now its a sniffer. Whats her job discription?

      Ebony Love - 2013-06-24 11:17

      wet dog detector!!! LOL

  • Meagan Anastasia Juries - 2013-06-23 22:02

    BWAHAHAHAHA!

  • Mpho Leopeng - 2013-06-23 22:03

    Witch hunt!!!

  • Adepoju Mosebo - 2013-06-23 22:08

    I had a bad sunday but this story has made my day! CRAP!

  • Vagn Nielsen - 2013-06-23 22:11

    Woof, woof!

  • Aniel Poolaraj - 2013-06-23 22:12

    Hahhaaha lmfao dnt call police 2 a crime scene call sangomas and nyangas,dumb idiot just appointed as general cos of ur skin colour and u friends wit zuma,I know cops who hav 35 years service and are inspectors and can't b promoted u a blady joke ,and they know more den u,embarresment 2 saps.u jus called a sangoma cos u know its ur junior members who broke in and wants 2 destroy evidence against him in his departemental trial,and 2 make dem scared u so weak,general joke

  • Ali Motaung - 2013-06-23 22:14

    Does that mean he doesn't trust his colleaques to investigate the matter!? Makes one wonder ...

  • Richard Alberts - 2013-06-23 22:24

    The whole world is run by witchcraft and, like what happened at Marikana and the President's actions at the ANC centenary celebrations along with Jesse Jackson (i.e. the 'cleansing ceremony'), this incidence just confirms what we already know. Which 'god' do you think we should pray to for Mandela's health, Mr President? Yours or Jesus?

      GB Garratt - 2013-06-24 03:50

      So what is the difference between believing in Sangoma's, witches or Jesus? Really now. They are all superstitious BS for the stupid.

  • Mahlatse Patience - 2013-06-23 22:27

    Lol.......is this some kind of joke in news24?...... ''i smell a fried fish''

  • NewsLover - 2013-06-23 23:05

    I wonder if he's written just ONE Police exam to get his rank. This tells me..... Not! Not many left who've written a single exam, dog eats dog, eish. C'mon those in power, it's twenty yes since free promotion was brought in to rectify and balance the ranks... Surely it's time to make em study again????

  • potevan - 2013-06-23 23:15

    What a joke SA has turned into. Since when does the police not investigate crime anymore??? Since Zuma has started taking us back into the dark ages of witchcraft etc!!!

      Samuel Khazamula Bila - 2013-06-24 04:02

      Yeah Zuma is breeding other idiots like him.remember whn he went to Mangaung he first consulted his,ancestors n perfomed ritual cleans so tht he win the race.So petro learned frm his master

  • Mongezi Consilia Mohope - 2013-06-23 23:17

    'Vumani bo' as i throw my Bones on the floor...kwaaaaaaAaaa

  • Michael Ian Wright - 2013-06-23 23:49

    Seriously?

  • Richard Brune - 2013-06-23 23:51

    Fillet of a fenny snake, In the caldron boil and bake; Eye of newt, and toe of frog, Wool of bat, and tongue of dog, Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting, Lizard's leg, and owlet's wing,— For a charm of powerful trouble, Like a hell-broth boil and bubble. Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and caldron bubble.

      Annemarie White - 2013-06-24 02:45

      Sounds about right. Thank you, I've forgotten that one in my old age.

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-06-24 10:56

      Abridged Thinking. That took me back to a childhood, long gone.

  • Tommo Too - 2013-06-24 00:02

    But what about using sangomas to smell out corruption? Now that idea I like.

      Erna Westdyk - 2013-06-24 05:38

      That'll be too easy!

  • Michael Mooketsi - 2013-06-24 02:15

    I won't be suprisd 2 read de report dat de tax money ws used 2 pay 4 consultation

  • Sakhekile Sakieman - 2013-06-24 03:32

    news24 you are running out of news and now you report unnecessary things,,,

      Wikus Erasmus - 2013-06-24 05:55

      Just because its embarrassing doesnt mean it should go unreported. Hilarious!

  • Warren Black - 2013-06-24 03:55

    I think I just invented a new drinking game called "you know its time to immigrate when..." Here, I will start; You know its time to immigrate when... your chief of police has more faith in his witchdoctor's ability to solve a crime, than he has in his own police force. Now your turn!

  • Samuel Khazamula Bila - 2013-06-24 04:19

    Guys Petros leanerd this frm Zuma,remember Zuma consulted his Sangoma n performed some rituals cleans in preparation for Mangaung conference.even during the Polokwane conference whn he deathrone Mr Mbeki.So it seems to be wrking for the idiot Zuma.check out in december this yr Zuma will perform some stupid ritual in preparation for 2014 Election watch out

  • Funwithgoats - 2013-06-24 05:57

    Why even have police force, why not just use sangomas ???

  • Denzile Roux - 2013-06-24 06:11

    so what he is actually saying is that the police CAN'T do the job...

  • Arthur Salvado - 2013-06-24 06:53

    Speechless . No need to plant anymore bananas. This is ridiculous. Now watch for his promotion. The sad thing is that he is only one of thousands who rely on these bone throwers. Sad

  • Leon Alhadeff - 2013-06-24 07:05

    May the force be with us.....although the appear to have left the building already!

  • Ntombi Baloyi - 2013-06-24 07:23

    This is a joke,right?? Hahahaha so we expected to trust him and his team when we have a similar problem but he goes to a sangoma hahaha unless m missing something here,classic!!

  • Gareth Morgan - 2013-06-24 07:26

    Guys this can be viewed in a very different light , think about it he might be really clever , a certain part of the population is very fearful of sangomas and the "trickery " they spew so perhaps the "thief" will expose him/herself due to the fear of being exposed by the sangoma ... or its just the general state of the nation as spoken about in other posts .... thing is as far as I know I have yet to come across a sangoma who has done something right ... Marikana, etc etc

  • Ntombi Baloyi - 2013-06-24 07:28

    My sangoma smelled a wet cat in my office hahahahahahahahaha SA is the place to be