Top cops fear Mdluli's return

2012-04-03 10:37

Johannesburg - A sense of fear is gripping the crime intelligence office because of Richard Mdluli’s return, a report said on Tuesday.

Officers told the TimesLive on condition of anonymity that they feared Mdluli would target those who investigated him for fraud and murder charges.

Mdluli was suspended last year after he was charged in connection with the 1999 kidnapping and murder of his ex-girlfriend's boyfriend.

He was also charged with defrauding the police and a Pretoria car dealership of more than R90 000, and for causing it to lose a further R1.28m. The Specialised Commercial Crimes Court has provisionally dropped the charges.

His reinstatement comes a month after the National Prosecuting Authority served suspension papers on top anti-corruption prosecutor advocate Glynnis Breytenbach for her alleged "abuse of power" but it is believed she was being punished for refusing to drop the fraud charges against Mdluli.

A Hawks official told the TimesLive that senior officers had been assigned to investigate both the fraud and the murder cases and that the withdrawal of charges and the lifting of the suspension have left a bitter taste in their mouths.

Another Hawks official said it had fought for the case to remain on the court roll, but the withdrawal of both the murder and fraud charges was beyond its control. Both officials said their investigations were not politically motivated.

  • Randomhero6661 - 2012-04-03 10:41


      IAnon - 2012-04-03 11:24

      They probably fear that their slice of the Cake is going to become considerably smaller ;-)

      Spyker - 2012-04-03 12:51

      WELCOME TO INSANIA... I say: LET US TOPPLE THE ANC BY NOT BUYING E-TAGs. It will bankrupt the ANC's (supposedly the state's) pension-fund and will turn the masses on the ANC. Let the monster they created turn on them.

  • Twain - 2012-04-03 10:43

    Blatantly and openly corrupt.

  • Azande - 2012-04-03 10:44

    Welcome back. I hope you are really innocent.

      Wimpie.Haefele - 2012-04-03 11:09

      Please read the above article esp paragraph 5 and 7

      Azande - 2012-04-03 11:20

      I read the article. There is nowhere it says this man was found guilty of the charges levelled against him. Until the court convicts this man, he will remain innocent in my eyes.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-04-03 11:30

      @Azande, wow....

      justice.mpho1 - 2012-04-03 11:33

      What happened to the principle "innocent until proven guilty" or does it apply primarily to whites? I didnt hear of any charge that sticked to what has been alleged towards Mdluli,have you?

      clinton.bowden1 - 2012-04-03 11:37

      Yes but in order for him to be declared innocent, the courts have to be able to hear and assess the evidence that support the accusation made against him. Once presented a decision is made of Guilty or Innocence. The problem here is its not going to happen due to political inteferrence. So really how do we know he is innocent because he has never had to prove his innocence and nor has the law had the opportunity to prove he has may not be. It's like me as an employer just firing you for doing a bad job because some one said you did a bad job but then didn't bother to listen to yourside of the story. Maybe you had a reason not to be fired but because I was just told to fire you I did so. Had I listened to your reason I could have otherwise made a well informed decision to retain you as employee. But because I don't need to prove innocence or guilt you are F-ING FIRED !!!

      richard.hipkin - 2012-04-03 12:04

      @justice, explain what this has to do with race? Or are you so obsessed?

      malcolm.molver - 2012-04-03 12:28

      Justice is a racist retard. Don't mind this uneducated dumb@ss fool. He's an insignificant pr!ck

      schewitz - 2012-04-03 12:53

      how will we ever know if he is indeed guilty if charges are dropped due to his political connections. its is plainly obvious that the charges are being dropped because he is a supporter of zuma.

      Azande - 2012-04-03 13:22

      U guys have never been accused of something u didn’t do. Wait until that happens to you, then you will realise how bad it is to prejudge on allegations against someone before the case is heard. Secondly, Mdluli never laid charges against himself. so, if the court does not hear the case of NPA, it’s not his fault. Political foul is a total speculation and I won’t entertain it until someone comes with evidence that supports the claim. I won’t allow myself to be mind skewed because of certain people who are just howling “political foul play” without putting facts on the table.

      Don.Tandy - 2012-04-03 13:46

      Azande - you sound like a typical South African, fostering the belief that you are not committing a crime unless you get caught.

      Azande - 2012-04-03 13:58

      @Don, sorry if I offend you, but that assertion of yours is stupid and ridiculous. U sound like a typical European.

      justice.mpho1 - 2012-04-03 21:44

      Azande whatever your implying is true although influenced by certain sentiments...but i also want to apologise for that faulty reply,i for one have reasons to believe that political influence played a role in the discharging of the allegations levelled against mdluli.what imparative is that we have to see the picture as a whole and remember that the NPA is also a separate body and has its procedures and so is the office of presidency.i hardly believe that Zuma is a dictator...speculations about his charges will swing left and right until the decision by a court settles everything and by doing so we will all have peaceful nights.we all know that the NPA can withdraw from any allegation that is "absurtd".

  • Piet - 2012-04-03 10:45

    He's not cured... He wil steal an lie again... When will Showahead open his eyes...????????

      clinton.bowden1 - 2012-04-03 10:53

      Uhh...he is a close ally of the Showahead so its not a matter open-eyes. It a matter of Master and Dog.

      Herman - 2012-04-03 12:30

      Showaheads eyes are wide open, he knows this is his best mate

      brian.mashigo - 2012-04-03 12:56

      Showahead? This word is not necessary to get your point across. It is an insult. You are clearly partial. As for General Mdluli, I agree that he has not been found guilty of anything. This makes him innocent. The RSA CONSTITUTION SAYS SO. In other words, it is the rule of law. This rule applies to all races. It is only fair to regard General Mdluli to be an innocent person as far as the NPA have not successfully prosecuted him. If you are dissatisfied with the NPA's decision to withdraw the charges, then you must pull a DA. Get it?

  • Sharon - 2012-04-03 10:45

    And we thought Bheki Cele was the bottom of the barrel! I think they have managed to scrape even lower. Impossible, but true...

      Rob - 2012-04-03 11:10

      Sharon, every week we see/hear of more and more blatant examples of corruption and nespotism. I for one expect it to continue getting worse and worse until, and only until, I see it all as normal. I hate that situation, and it may well force me to go..... and wash my hands at the airport.

  • Marion - 2012-04-03 10:50

    Ja well no fine... this is SA where we can hang our heads in shame for the things that our most senior safety and security individuals are accused of. Wonder where it will all end. Hope Interpol don't ever make the mistake of making a South African president again.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-04-03 11:32

      @themba, wtf are you on about, you ramblings resemble nothing of what is being discussed... Go troll sowetanlive..

  • Don.Tandy - 2012-04-03 11:04

    Never mind the top cops being in fear - what little part of SA's population that is still civilised should be shaking in their boots with fear. Yet another example of "Anarchy Nepotism Corruption" being thrown in our faces.

  • Phumi - 2012-04-03 11:06

    Where is this hatrad towards a man who has served the police service for over thirty years eminates from is really mind boggling? Richard Mdluli has all the right credintial and skill to carry out the job of being a National Commissioner with due diligence. Only those who are obsessed with and have personal hatred against president Zuma would want Mdluli to fail getting this position. He has everyright to be appointed to that position becaue one he qualifies to and secondly there are no charges against him that stick! This media campaign against a hard working career cop must come to an end!

      Rob - 2012-04-03 11:19

      Phumi...reasonable doubt....Sure he has not been convicted thus reasonable doubt. That does not make him innocent. At the same time his apparent association with a whole lot of suspect issues brings to me reasonable doubt that he has the integrity to lead anyone, let alone police services.

      Peter-Peter - 2012-04-03 11:20

      Is this an 'open support' for corruption message? you do realize that years of service has NOTHING to do with how honest he is? it just open up more questions like 'how long has this been going on for'. Open your eyes Phumi, he has been caught out red handed. The law is the law. He broke it. A person who should be in the front line against corruption, is corrupt himself. Those are the facts, and corruption must be stopped...hence, the reason why HE DOESNT DESERVE TO RETURN!

      Mark - 2012-04-03 12:21

      @leonardb1 what a stupid comment you've made. You've just labelled whites as eurocentric (better thinkers) and blacks afrocentrics (stupid or behind). I know you are going to say you didn't mean like that but remember you are not talking to your garden boy and maid who believe everything that come out of your stinking mouth

      Marina - 2012-04-03 12:33

      You're obviously family living in one of the safe houses.

  • Bongani - 2012-04-03 11:12

    In short these cops are saying they charge Mdluli before investigating him. That is wrong, why investigate a person if you have taken a decision already. i am not saying Mdluli is innocent, but he deserves fair trial like everybody else.

      Azande - 2012-04-03 11:28

      my point exactly. People must give Mdluli a break please.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-04-03 11:35

      A break from what, he is was charged for serious crimes and suddenly they were dropped, are you so blind?? Really?? Wow... but this kinda answers why we see so many protest, because you believe in someone even though the country screams foul and then you are disappointed when they turn out to be a complete failure - then you stand there in disbelief while we all just shake our heads - everytime.

      tshekiso.saul - 2012-04-03 12:32

      Pointblack I would assume u have some level of inteLligence, thus with him being charged does it confirm guilt. Because if u look very well all appointments are politisised cause of blackness and nobody pays attention when its of a different code.

      Chris - 2012-04-03 13:13

      tshekiso.saul - the issue is not one of race. its one of integrity. a position such as this, being one of the top cops in the country, demands absolute integrity. the moment there is some level of doubt - that position become untenable. integrity is not negotiable. saying he hasnt been found guilty is not good enough. he was implicated in huge list of transgresions - this alone is enought to get any person of his position fired on the spot, thats the way it works in 1st world countries and its the reason why south africa remains a 3rd world country.

      Azande - 2012-04-03 13:34

      @pointblank, 1. "the country screams foul", that is not a fact. its certain few individuals who are making these claims. So check your facts before making a general claim dude. 2. "he is was charged for serious crimes and suddenly they were dropped", does being charged make you guilty? is it the first time that a court strike a case off the roll when there is no material evidence? The court does not waste its time to nurse the ego of people like yourself. Until somebody comes with evidence that "dropping of the charges" was politically influenced, Mdluli must enjoy his time and by the way, he needs to sue the state of unfair labor practise and defamation of character.

  • Rob - 2012-04-03 11:13

    I wonder, is this criminality and arrogance simply a part of the 'big man' concept...and if it is do some/many in SA society see it as a sign of strong leadership?

  • Chervonne - 2012-04-03 11:27

    Another person conducting corruption into the system. They get arrested charges get dropped , they get sentenced and then they get sick and laws get changed what is the people of this country hiding,but if it was one of our family members a ordinary citizen of this country they where going to be in jail and if they sick end up dieing in jail.

  • Phumi - 2012-04-03 11:38

    In a democratic country the Executive has every right and a constitutional mandate to appoint whoever they feel appropriate to key strategic position for the betterment of the republic. However in this country you have those reactionary elements togethor with their press who want to dictate what the executive must or must not do. Unfortunately those enemies of democracy who are hell bent of taking us backwards to the dark days of colonialism will never win! Crime affects everyone in this country and more prevelently those who are poor and black. To the majority of us who care a lot about our safety rumours about Mdluli are not important! Just like what we did appointing Mogoeng Mogoeng the president must take a stand on this issue and give us our commissioner! The appointment of a career cop in that position is long over due!

      richard.hipkin - 2012-04-03 12:06

      Anyone else think this is a load of nonsense - you studying politics? Want to be a politician? Sounds like it to me, you trying too hard here - you bringing up issues that have nothing to do with the case in hand..

      Tony Lapson - 2012-04-03 12:35

      @pointblank Most of the time it's not about what is right, but what is best for the connections, business interests and law evaders.

      Marina - 2012-04-03 12:38

      @Pontblank. It's scary isn't it. That's why we find ourselves in this mess. It's a form of "wannabe 1st world tribalism".

      Chris - 2012-04-03 13:19

      Phumi - you need to ask for a refund of your tuition fees - youve been robbed. I'll repeat my reply from elsewhere: Comrade Mdluli's integrity has been breached - he is no longer fit to sit in that position. People resign / get fired / got to jail for lesser if your a G5 country. Its political appointments like this that keeps South Africa back.

  • Ian - 2012-04-03 12:29

    They must resign. They thought they were burying the man alive.

  • - 2012-04-03 13:10

    You have made Rat the guard at the henhouse. Oh this will not end well!

  • Matshidiso - 2012-04-03 13:12

    Does any one remember that Mdluli was considerd Presidents Zuma's friend and that charges will never stick against him and now the charges are scraped it is said that the president is the one who persuaded the case after Mdluli. You conspiracy theorists should realy keep track of you lies. You sound disoriented and un-intelligent. Internal invetigations will be done to address those crimes and will remain innocent until proven guilty. There is no country pure of corruption. We should be greatfull that in our country it is exposed, charged and found guilty when appropriate.

  • butch.poulter - 2012-04-03 13:41

    Wheres theres smoke theres fire. ACCOUNTABILITY ??????????

  • Gregory - 2012-04-03 21:14

    Zuma obviously has no ambitions to stop corruption and nepotism. He must get out of our government. SA will never improve with a rapist thief in the driving seat. I will never understand why the ANC selected him in the first place.

  • billidp - 2012-04-04 07:52

    Heaven help South Africa!

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