Traditional leaders want cabinet posts

2012-12-05 22:19

Pretoria - President Jacob Zuma should consider appointing two traditional leaders to his Cabinet, the Congress of Traditional Leaders of SA (Contralesa) said on Wednesday.

This decision was adopted at the organisation's national summit in Kempton Park, Contralesa official Zolani Mkiva said.

"[The] meeting called on President Zuma to urgently and seriously consider the appointment of at least two traditional leaders to his Cabinet in order to ensure that this sector, like others, is fairly represented in the executive."

At the meeting, Contralesa also, among other things, voiced its long-held opposition to same-sex marriages. People attracted to partners of the same sex were urged to consult traditional healers, diviners, family and community elders.

It reiterated its support for polygamy.

"We fully support polygamy as one of our African marriage regimes, on condition that the man is capable of supporting all of his wives and children on an equal basis," said Mkiva.

Contralesa leaders from all nine provinces attended the two-day conference. Its national executive resolved that land should be returned "to its rightful owners". It believed that the best way to address the land question was state ownership on behalf of all people.

"The dependence by our people on social grants from the state is as unsustainable as it is undesirable. It takes away the people's dignity as human beings," said Mkiva.

Contralesa was disturbed by the levels of poverty endured by mineworkers and people living in mining areas.

It raised concern about corruption in the public and private sectors.

"It results in failure by government to provide services as basic as the provision of water and electricity, the building of schools, clinics and passable roads in poor communities," Mkiva said.

Contralesa urged the ANC's leaders to ensure the outcome of its Mangaung elective conference created "an environment necessary for unity, stability and continuity of all gains made in the new dispensation since 1994".

Mkiva said Contralesa resolved to canvass for the election of a minimum of four traditional leaders, who were ANC members, to the party's national executive committee.

  • WilsoWill - 2012-12-05 22:33

    OMG!!!!! Thr scary thought is this might even be 'mulled over'..

      frank.cornelissen.1 - 2012-12-06 09:20

      Yeah, we really need some more idiots, this time with clothes mimicking a leopard in a chicken coup, or alternatively in various stages of undress, throwing bones and hyena hair around to counter everything from peeved spirits to small genitalia to disgrace the already overstretched House of Clowns aka parliament.

  • grant.montgomery.5074 - 2012-12-05 23:00

    Ofcourse the traditional leaders want cabinet posts, who wouldn't? Great pay and perks, merceedes, travel, top hotels etc.

  • themba.maseko.568 - 2012-12-05 23:03

    Who said Contralesa has loads of undeducated people? People get your facts right!!!

      henk63 - 2012-12-06 06:50

      It is a fair deduction to make because they consist of historic cultural mumbo jumbo soothsayers and witchdoctors. What is so educated about that? Oh, me bad! You can teach someone a load of crap and also call him educated. Sorry themba.

  • ssegaetsho - 2012-12-05 23:03

    hahahahhahahahhha....... wait...... hahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha ...... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. OK let me be serious now..... hahahahahahahahahahaha.

      ron.lawrance - 2012-12-06 07:05

      Just checked my calender. Thought it was April 1. Noooo. It is not. So is this a serious thought????????? Hope not

  • anthony.richardson.961 - 2012-12-05 23:05

    God help us, or maybe the ancestors will, or the tooth fairy or the easter bunny. No wait, Santa are you listening? This would be the antithesis of Neil Armstrongs words of one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. This would be one small step for CONTRALESA, a slide back 300 years for SA. Please do not even apply your mind to this one Zuma

  • Tello Moleko - 2012-12-05 23:11

    i agree with them,things were done western way,now must be done african way. you born to be leader,educated or not,education cant make you leader.

      zach.vincent.37 - 2012-12-05 23:24

      Tello, you are dumb human. Education is what broadens the mind and allows decisions to be made based on knowledge of different scenarios and outcomes. Zuma is a troglodyte (look that up). If black guys are so anti-Westen ways, then you should switch off your cellphone, TV, radio, car, lights and go make a fire! Seriously, Africa must catch a wake up.

      john.morreira.9 - 2012-12-06 02:08

      Tello, get off the evil white man's computer/internet,disconnect your evil white man's electricity from your house, in fact take off your white man's clothes and stop using the white man's plumbing. I could go on and on and on............

      grootrot.vanzyl - 2012-12-06 05:35

      Zach, Tello, if truly traditional, must be told where to "look it up". Tello whilst you are at it, look up cell phone, TV, radio, car, lights and please switch off that PC of yours - the people who invented it had education and leadership. Ironic, do you not think? Oops - please look up "ironic" as well.

      henk63 - 2012-12-06 06:54

      Tello that's why you have terrible leaders who make mistakes every day. I agree common sense cannot be taught, for that you need a brain. Unfortunately those leaders who are "born" to it have neither common sense, nor education.

      gordon.trevat - 2012-12-06 09:29

      @Tello. The African way says I can use violence to any degree to take power and whatever else I want. (Much like the unions, taxi bosses, government, youth league, and criminals do). Are you sure you want us to move back to the African way, allowing the meek tax payers and poor to revolt and take immediate action to deal with these criminals regardless of some western legal process?

  • thebe.tau - 2012-12-05 23:31

    The so called cabinet in itself is a western idea, so how the hell do you want in on that, you said you want independence and your own set of rules and traditional courts, this is about money.

      henk63 - 2012-12-06 06:58

      Exactly thebe. There was even a call to make provinces smaller recently, thus making them more, thus creating more MEC's, local councils and what not. An already bloated government will just get bigger. They think the more people they appoint the better it will be.

  • diana.gill.18 - 2012-12-05 23:46

    Maybe its time to relocate the whole government of SA back to their traditional houses, i.e. grass huts and caves?

  • denise.wilshire - 2012-12-05 23:48

    Surely this was anticipated when Minister Baloyi introduced the concept of traditional courts? This comes as no surprise. More money down the drain! Wow! this little tax calf is getting skinnier by the second. FORWARD NEVER, BACKWARD EVER!

  • timothy.crowley.96 - 2012-12-05 23:57

    The gravy train keeps getting longer and longer. Getting paid more than their employers for doing little or no work!

  • Makhavele - 2012-12-06 00:06

    You are my home boy but you talk sh#t if you support polygam.

      mammudi.makgaleng.3 - 2012-12-06 02:55

      I respect your view.

  • dewaldt.duplessis.5 - 2012-12-06 00:19

    Screw the African way! There is a lot better ways to uplift the black communities. If the ANC wasn't so corrupt peoples lives would change for the better. And f#ck polygamy!Zuma is using our tax money to look after his 21 children and not sure how many wives the baffoon has. SA is for everybody not just Africans but for us whites aswell!

      khazi.cele - 2012-12-06 07:26

      If you have citizenship(obtained it legally or a natural citizen etc) for an African country, irregardless of your skin colour you are African. I never understood the mentality that White South Africans may not be considered Africans. South Africa belongs to all of those who live in it. Traditional leaders in Cabinets are a big CAPITALIZED NO!!! No wonder South Africans of all colour migrate!

  • ShotLeft - 2012-12-06 00:30

    Fnn farm

  • cyril.mpanza.1 - 2012-12-06 01:20

    Tradional leaders ... who are these people? Why should they be in our government? Who are proper owners of land? Today I am embarrased - these things like Contrlesa are not proper things.

      henk63 - 2012-12-06 07:00

      "Rightful" owners of land will be anyone but white people. Their agenda is clear.

  • johann.vanryneveld - 2012-12-06 02:14

    Traditional leaders what next ,witch doctors running the health department ,smelling out the opposition having them speared and fed to the vultures ,ama buya iafrica ,!!!! Freedom before education !!! Nothing new have been ANC policie for along time ,the only people I know that build a house from the roof downward .

  • leka.mad - 2012-12-06 02:24

    This is what happens when you use tax payers money to build a multi million rand mansion on traditional land!! Payback. Some of our pressing problems are a growing budget deficit, a pathetically dismal economic growth rate, high unemployment, a high crime rate, poor levels of education which will have long term repercussions. And the solution is to nationalise agricultural land? Wean homosexuals out of homosexuality? And oh yes, this is the cherry on the top. Polygamy! Our economy will be turned around with polygamy. These additional cabinet ministers will provide much needed insights into solving our problems! There is method to this madness.

  • mammudi.makgaleng.3 - 2012-12-06 03:10

    Youth of today SA needs our fresh minds to stand against this old cronies who are taking us 10 steps backwards everyday. They don't think of Economic growth but self enrichment. Where will we be in 10yrs. in a traditional governed society? Simply means we can't compete in a civilized world and what l see we will end up leaving in mud houses with no electricity and no education. Its time to fight for change in leadership, change to let intellectuals to lead us and grow the economy. Tired of this useless scum bags and their stupidity maan.

  • werner.luitingh - 2012-12-06 04:04

    I agree give the land back to the Khoi Khoi! The colonial thieves migrated from central Africa (Bantu Migration).

  • werner.luitingh - 2012-12-06 04:07

    I agree give the land back to the Khoi Khoi! The colonial thieves migrated from central Africa (Bantu Migration).

      themba.monare.5 - 2012-12-06 05:31

      Werner when you say colonial thieves, are you talking about your ancestors? Probably with other poor whites from Europe?

  • ben.lantz1 - 2012-12-06 04:54

    Way to go JZ the african way,let their cattle graze on the lawns

  • brionyl.french - 2012-12-06 05:02

    Oh great more stupid people in parilment.

  • JOHNY63 - 2012-12-06 05:12

    SHAME!!!! More Morons is Goverment. I must pay?

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-12-06 05:20

    15 million people on welfare already, now more parasites in the queue. Actual working taxpayers of around 4 million have to support this lot. And we wonder why we don't have service delivery. Too many people sitting around doing nothing and expecting someone else to pay.

  • Michael Kleber - 2012-12-06 05:32

    You want to go to parliament then you must stand for elections and get voted in , no free rides please .

  • minah.v.dlamini - 2012-12-06 05:54

    ooohhh somebody Plis pull my hair out, might as well look the part for this circus!

  • Berto En Petra Mostert - 2012-12-06 05:58

    Boarding the gravy train!!! Next stop Nkandla!! who else want a ride! Humpty Dumpy!?

  • colin.chaplin.14 - 2012-12-06 06:09

    This news headline would make for a great April Fools Day prank

  • motlalepula.moloi - 2012-12-06 06:23

    Ya, thats what he said remember, 'problems should be solved the African way' now his ''please everyone strategy'' is backfirering.

  • shaun.miekle - 2012-12-06 06:28

    Another bunch of imbeciles in the Cabinet

  • linda.duits - 2012-12-06 06:38

    Thats ok by me, can we then vote for Santa, the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy also to get seats in parliament? What a bloody joke!!!

  • Banele Xaji - 2012-12-06 06:52

    Oh no!!! Zuma's homophobes now want to be in the executive? Can someone tell them you cant change the constitution willy nilly, and besides, their buddy Zuma is likely to get recalled if reelected at Mangaung.

  • ThamiJeffrey - 2012-12-06 06:55

    Welcome to SA, the world's biggest village, run by a chief. Now his herdsmen want to join in on the counsel. There's definitely a zulu on my stoep. Lord help us...

  • Madeleine Meiring - 2012-12-06 07:00

    Might as well put King Simba the Lion, The Lord of the Apes and the African Queen Bee in gov too.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-12-06 07:06

    These stupid people shouldn't even be allowed to vote, now they want to sit in parliament. the circus gets bigger.

  • katlegojones.malemela - 2012-12-06 07:16

    To hell with Traditional Leaders, they serve no one but themselves! How many rural areas don't have basic necessities and yet the Fat Traditional leader has all the 21st electronics, speaking from where I was raised these selfish idiots must go have a job!

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-12-06 07:16

    Key to road to riches in SA, join the ANC!

  • dave.j.colquhoun - 2012-12-06 07:22

    Now they want seats in first class on the gravy train. It's not as if we don't have more than enough parasitic idiots hanging on to the gravy train who have contributed absolutely nothing towards society and have done nothing more that rape the economy with their theiving practices. Now the Traditional leaders want a piece of the pie. Not really surprising given the fact that they also want to rape the treasury for their own benefit.

  • Slindile Mamello Ngidi - 2012-12-06 07:38

    good thing contralesa is represented by Xhosa's not Zulus

  • sandy.sutherland.58 - 2012-12-06 07:51

    What they mean to say is that these so called 'traditional leaders' actually just want to suffle and grunt at the same tax revenue trough that zipper and his cronies do!

  • bless.boswell - 2012-12-06 08:05

    Oh Thami you are funny. Thank you for the laugh.

  • cecilia.vanderwesthuizen.5 - 2012-12-06 08:33

    Most of these a-wipes can't even read or write. This is a joke right?

  • DuToitCoetzee - 2012-12-06 08:59

    Minister of Spending and his deputy.

  • flysouth - 2012-12-06 09:03

    More pigs jostling to get to the trough!

  • sisie.indola - 2012-12-06 09:38

    You want our vote - you pay. And my guess is that they will be placed by JZ in his so called parliament - as if we need more incompetents in parliament. Or maybe it's because they just want the "money', having to choose 2 will cause such a bun fight amongst these so called "traditional leaders" that i would even pay to go and watch.

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2012-12-06 09:40

    Next these traditional leaders will be demanding not requesting. By what right do they think they deserve places in cabinet? Already we have numerous cadres in cabinet who are pretty much useless and should be replaced with people with the leadership skills and will to serve the nation, not just enriching themselves. Then they also want four ANC members on the NEC! All aboard the gravy train.

  • mfumbayelangabi.silwane - 2012-12-06 09:43

    this is the noise I would like to hear,this land was taken from our traditional leadership,hence it is important that we get representation.

  • peter.j.cock - 2012-12-06 10:35

    Oh No !!! Now they want to throw the bones to banish those who are in opposition to what they think.

  • kofi.ghanaman - 2012-12-06 10:42

    I guess the traditional president should be enough for now.

  • kofi.ghanaman - 2012-12-06 10:42

    too many roaches in the cabinet already!

  • Eterni80 - 2012-12-06 11:15

    more people to waste our tax money on and can sleep through parliament the cANCer is so far beyond a joke it's no longer funny.