Tshwane metro 'changed naming policy'

2012-04-11 10:06

Pretoria - Just weeks before new street names for Pretoria were approved, the ANC-controlled Tshwane Metro Council changed a policy requiring consultation with residents, it was reported on Wednesday.

The original council document concerning name changes, which was approved in September 2007, was not adhered to, Beeld newspaper reported on Wednesday.

This document required that at least 51% of registered voters in a street give written consent for a new street name.

However, the Tshwane metro changed this requirement in January. Two months later, Tshwane mayor Kgosientso Ramokgopa made an announcement concerning 25 new street names.

The 2007 document also required that new street names be put to residents via local newspapers, but there was no public participation on the 25 names announced.

Last week, civil rights lobby group AfriForum sent Ramokgopa a lawyer's letter pointing out that he was showing contempt for justice by trying to force the name change issue.

Ramokgopa's office said AfriForum's letter had been sent to the municipality's legal department.

  • Kala - 2012-04-11 10:12

    The ANC show contempt of the court. Never... It is the Courts who show contempt for the ANC. (Being sarcastic) But finding out that the ANC does things under handedly is hardly new or surprising.

      CharlesDumbwin - 2012-04-11 10:27

      The ANC are very sneaky and underhanded. Typical behaviour from this corrupt regime !!!

      Atholl - 2012-04-11 11:02

      Another overule by the courts :: ---- Bill of Rights -- Section 33 says :: Administrative action must be [ reasonable ] and [ procedurally fair ].

      Christopher - 2012-04-11 11:22

      All this time, meetings, money, more meetings to change a few road names?? And you will get some idiot in the middle of all this ie: Kgosientso Ramokgopa and Mike Sutcliffe that thinks he is a hero himself for orchestrating such an "important" and "invaluable" step in the lives of all South Africans...are they so simple minded that changing road names takes over their world.

      Eric - 2012-04-11 12:05

      And they wonder why we don't trust them? It's because they are not trustworthy!! :(

      Georg - 2012-04-11 13:05

      Well, if you can't build something yourself, you rename what others built.

  • Ricky - 2012-04-11 10:14

    Moving the goal posts to force this rewrite of history eh anc. "I have no culture or history, so i will destroy yours" mentality.

  • siyadyosiba - 2012-04-11 10:23

    No comment.

      malcolm.molver - 2012-04-11 11:24

      Typical ANC comment. Corrupt, racist idiots...

      mnbain - 2012-04-11 13:06

      Malcom, how on the basis of no comment, can you assume the person is ANC?

      siyadyosiba - 2012-04-11 13:19

      @mnbain, thanks. I'm baffled. @Malcom, sorry for not commenting. I will next time.

  • Ben - 2012-04-11 10:24

    Changing towards dictatorship?

      CharlesDumbwin - 2012-04-11 10:28

      Dictators eventually die anyway. Look at Gadaffi, Mugabe, etc ...

      Eva - 2012-04-11 10:37

      And what's left of Libya and Zim? Do we really want to see SA go the same way?

      Pravda - 2012-04-12 15:09

      @charles dumbwin they take too blerry long to die.

  • alu.ntsandeni - 2012-04-11 10:28

    Well, Malema did warn that we are ruled by dictators.

      CharlesDumbwin - 2012-04-11 10:31

      That rich coming from him. He's a dictator in the making.

      raath - 2012-04-11 11:38

      More like dictator without the tator.

      MastersVoice - 2012-04-11 12:15

      I am very grateful he did! Two birds with one stone, you see. Firstly, he made all his followers aware that Zuma is dangerous, and secondly he removed himself from the ANC! Its a win-win!

  • Balanganani - 2012-04-11 10:38

    ANC likes to waste time. Where is service delivery?

      Ben - 2012-04-11 11:03

      Yes, you are right. We are sick and tired of politicking. What about the things that really matter.

      Miesies - 2012-04-11 11:21

      My centiments exactly.... and also proving their incompetence level by the lack of priorities on service delivery, as if the poor will benefit by name changes. Who are they fooling here?

      Kala - 2012-04-11 14:01

      There is far less effort in changing a road name than providing good quality service. Also this furore caused by this street naming scandle diverts everyones attention from the lack of service delivery.

  • Gavin - 2012-04-11 10:44

    no surprise here, the C in ANC will soon be changed to Communists so that they can start their thousand year reign...

      Gerald - 2012-04-11 11:13

      Sorry Gavin you are wrong ANC And Now Chinese

  • Ian - 2012-04-11 10:47

    I bet if I go to Pretoria there will be some who does not have a house but we have people preoccupied with changing names. What is the priority here Mr Mayor? It is important but not a priority. Check the need of you people first. I have a suggestion people, you can take me on this. My suggestion is let scrap the local govt elections to elect political leaders to run municipalities. We should appoint people who are academically qualified to run municipalities. The provincial govt should act like board of directors. Mayors should be like CEO's. what is the significance of politicizing local governance. If my neighbor is DA and I am ANC, we both need the same services. Mayors should go through an interview process like in the private sector. Same thing with councillors. It does not matter where councillor might be from, as long as he or she is qualified and is prepared to deliver on the mandate. Municipalities should be run private sector model.

      Michael - 2012-04-11 10:57

      I agree 100% but this is far too logical and intelligent an idea for the ANC to do something like this. They don't want efficiency, just corruption and jobs for unqualified pals.

      Ze Don - 2012-04-11 11:53

      I concur! The problem with this would be that the anc wouldn't be able to take credit for someone else doing what they're supposed to do anyway.

  • Davin - 2012-04-11 11:02

    Create a city and create streets and then you can name them. The only reason these name changes happen is because they don't have the intellect to do any other part of their jobs. How terrible and sad this situation has become.

      Michael - 2012-04-11 11:25

      And Davin....... who do you think gets the tender to produce the new maps, street signs etc etc etc??? This is what it is all(and always) about....... MONEY!!!!!

  • Nicholas - 2012-04-11 11:16

    Typical ANC behaviour. One always gets the feeling that the irrepressible dictatorship tendencies are just wanting to burst forth. The law and the media must be the bain of their lives. Its a pity they don't use this same energy to deliver services that rate payers are paying for.

      Pravda - 2012-04-12 15:16

      the media is a small drop in the ocean. look at the arab spring. there the media was muzzled. more information got out on you tube than the bbc could hope for.

  • Dhavandran - 2012-04-11 11:17

    tranparency is not in the vocabulary of the ANC.they are non-believers and their religion is denial and corruption.ANC another name for corruption.

  • Breinlekkasie - 2012-04-11 11:23

    Why so much effort into something that has such a low priority? It would be more appreciated if they put the same effort into service delivery and fighting corruption!

  • Jayb - 2012-04-11 11:24

    changing street my a*s why cant they use the same money to fund e-tol project

  • Clive - 2012-04-11 11:27

    JM was right this is turning out to be a dictatorship right down to the lowest level it seems - dictated by people with total diregard for their employers ( The tax paying public) as well as the law. What is this ? Banan Republic - sure looks like it's heading that way. Clive

  • Phalo - 2012-04-11 11:37

    This is a waste of time and money that could have been used more productively. It is my opinion that we should not completely erase our past. Those individuals to whom these streets were originally named played vital roles in building this country. Therefore we should not try to erase them from our heritage. Instead, we should build new roads, new centres etc and name these under the new breed of heroes and leaders. Why change and waste when you can build and honour your heroes? The ANC is truly being petty on this issue. Build new roads and name them accordingly, don't trash other's history where there is no known malice on their part.

      Thando - 2012-04-11 13:05

      Change..change....change......u dnt find Adolf Hilter square in Hamburg.....

      E - 2012-04-11 16:23

      Thando, there never was one. Anyway, Hitler & cronies renamed many old street/place names, which were promptly changed back to the originals when they lost the war. Same with the communists in Russia & all over eastern Europe. Just wait ... History will catch up with you ...

  • chiepner - 2012-04-11 11:46

    ANC bending the rules to suit them? NO!!!!

  • Cassandra Olivier - 2012-04-11 11:57

    What a waste of money; my vote is no

  • tobydt - 2012-04-11 12:20

    This mayor is a scumbag. Its the equivalent of changing the constitution so that voting is removed.

  • jamesrwicks - 2012-04-11 12:31

    Are you telling me you are going to spend millions of rands on street names????? WTF!!!! There are people in this country who are starving, there are towns with potholes the size of the great canyon, there is crime everywhere! And you are wasting your, I mean our money on this!!! For pete sakes do not one of you have any morals!?! They are street names!! Who cares what they are called, new towns will be built, put those street names there! This is utterly ridiculous!!! GROW A F**KEN BACKBONE AND FIX THE PROBLEMS, THE STREET SIGNS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM!!!

  • Jacqui - 2012-04-11 12:39

    The ANC rules, and create rules to serve itself. A dictatorship is what we are having. May the rot set in soon.

  • Mark - 2012-04-11 12:52

    Pretoria Mayor, Kgosientso Ramokgopa and his ANC accomplices masquesrade as the City Fathers, while illegally changing the rules under the table. Since this bunch already have no credibility to protect, I guess you could call it normal Cadre behaviour. Ineresting to note, that he fears the Pretoria Ratepayer, but nonetheless bites the collective hand that feeds him.

  • - 2012-04-11 13:02

    If Kgosientso Ramokgopa pays for this out of his own salary, I am more than happy with the changes.

  • Cassius - 2012-04-11 13:26

    Black and White History are just parallel and we are all contributing to it. It is my view that there is a need to highlight black history if Name Changing is an option is ok but it doesn’t mean white Africans shouldn’t be acknowledged for both Good and Bad they did while in power. Unfortunately we cannot erase history at all. Rather create balance to highlight the true parallel of history

  • Lulie - 2012-04-11 13:42

    Extreme waste of money. Why don't they rather use that money wisely and, say, feed and house people. Just this very week there were issues at Marabastad where people have been waiting weeks for service. But the words 'use money wisely' and 'ANC-ruled municipality' is sadly something never used in one sentence.

  • Paulo - 2012-04-11 15:53

    Here's an idea, why doesn't the city let the people decide? any who pays rates go vote on wether or not it's Pretoria or Tshawne-end of

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  • phathuchicos - 2012-04-11 18:44

    What constructive does Afriforum do inthis country?

      mastersvoice - 2012-04-11 19:20

      Well, they got that funny Malema guy into court over some song promoting the murder of farmers, then there's the fact that they keep the Pretoria so-called Tshwane municipality on their toes by exposing their blatant disregard for the people they're supposedly representing. You know - little things like service delivery and illegal name changes...

  • Iscariot - 2012-04-12 08:48

    change is good - transformation up front.

  • ria.duplessisstoddart - 2012-07-29 18:55

    They are all hiding under the same umbrella ....... nothing will come of anything and everything will be as they want it to be.

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