Tuks turns away top matrics

2011-11-08 22:39

Johannesburg - Another seven top matrics who between them have about 50 distinctions, have been turned down by the University of Pretoria's faculty of veterinary science on account of "poor academic performance".

That's according to AfriForum Youth, and follows a decision by the faculty to deny admission to Kiara Haylock, whose mathematics mark was 92% and that for science 86%.
The youth organisation on Tuesday asked Higher Education Minister Blade Nzimande to intervene as a matter of urgency.
Tuks is the only university in South Africa where the course is offered.
AfriForum Youth's Charl Oberholzer said one of the seven, Rozelle Zamudio, had been under the impression that she had been accepted.

She had an average of 91% for  mathematics and 90% for science - two of the main subjects for admission to the course.
"Top students are leaving the country because they are not being given the opportunity to follow their calling," said Oberholzer, the national chairperson.

"Students who were born in 1993 are being asked to stand aside, regardless of the contribution they would like to make to the country's skills crisis.
"UP is blaming the demographic targets set by the department of higher education, while the minister throws the ball back in the university’s court.
"In the meantime the skills crisis is not being addressed," said Oberholzer.
He asked the minister to relieve the shortage of veterinary surgeons in South Africa by giving all top achievers the opportunity to compete.
AfriForum Youth last week asked the UP to make the academic achievements of the successful applicants available in terms of the Access to Information Act to determine whether these applicants had in fact performed better than learners who had been turned away.

  • Adam - 2011-11-08 23:01

    Don’t panic, there are many veterinary schools overseas that will gladly take you with results like these. The bonus is you will not have to look for work and relocate after you qualify, you will be already there. The added bonus, you will be able to ply your skills towards pet owners who are in tears about the ill health of their pets opposed to crying your own tears over animals that have been doused in fuel and set alight, half buried alive or “sodomised” to near point of death.

      Dirk - 2011-11-09 06:30

      You are right but that does not change the fact that this is sick and a sad reflection of a dying society and an incompetent regime whose "policies" result in this. Disgraceful, to put it mildly. Where is the opposition? Or are they to afraid to "offend" voters who they wish to attract.

      Michelle - 2011-11-10 09:14

      Yes and a Veterinary degree in England for example will set you back 1 million rand for the 5 year coarse.. and no, thats not an overexageration.. as an international student it costs about 25000 pounds a year.. I looked into it after not being accepted to Veterinary Science at UP.. But after 2 extra years of perseverance I was finally accepted after my 3rd year of selection and it was the best descision I ever made. In the UK there are 700 Veterinary graduates every year and they all have to fight for Jobs! And lets be honest... there's animal cruelty in every country, not only South Africa! Going overseas is not the answer! They need to accept more people and not make it about race!

  • thys.louwrens - 2011-11-09 01:16

    Just because they white, it is a racist thing.

  • Andries - 2011-11-09 01:46

    Get used to this kind of thing or get out. I think the answer is pretty obvious.

  • RokitScience - 2011-11-09 04:33

    Because they are white, it's not racist! My cousin was turned down by SAA for their piloting program, it was his life long dream and he also had top results coming out of high school, as well as a study loan... "Sorry sir, black intake only" is all they said. That's honesty and not racist... We can all agree that AA should be around, because this that blah blah... However denying the future of SA their dreams and ambitions (especially if they have the skills) is ridiculous, and is definitely an "eye for an eye" approach. Sad and B.S!

      Guy - 2011-11-09 07:29

      Tell your cousin to join the Air Force. They have a shortage of whites.

      Azande - 2011-11-09 11:02

      @RokitScience, I have a different view to you opion about AA. In this country we are still struggling with equity. the pilot space is more than 80% white dominated. females (white and black) account for less than 20% in executive position both in private and public sector. It is not easy indeed when AA implementation hit you hard, but think about the other person who is benefiting rightfully and legally. My friend did not a job which he was already hinted that he got, reason being he is a black male. He had to live with that. I support AA and I think it is a good mechanism that will bridge the huge gap in equity in our country.

      sxp - 2013-10-15 09:07

      Azande, it will end the end lead tot he downfall of the country as the best will not reach the levels they can. In the end we all then loose and their is nothing left to share.

  • Fred - 2011-11-09 05:04

    ANC legislated end enforced racism will eventually degrade everything to the level lowest common denominator.

  • JL - 2011-11-09 06:29

    What happened to Mandela's vision of a South Africa where everyone has the same rights? These kids worked for their impressive marks and could make a huge contribution to this country, yet nothing else matters but 'getting the numbers right'. Short-sighted doesn't even come close to describing this mentality. Hope this reaches world newspapers that people may witness the pitiful discrimination - the sad legacy of the dead dream of a united RSA.

      Merven - 2011-11-09 07:53

      Mandela never had a dream of where everyone has the same rights, it was just a marketing trick to fool foreign investors and general public. Look how his family is pocketing in this 'New SA'. It is all about money, nothing else.

      JL - 2011-11-10 06:16

      @Merven. It is certainly starting to look that way - that whites fell for the biggest con in history. But regardless - I would rather see a united RSA, than the alternative. What many black people don't realize is that mentorship is the best way to learn. So they should not be threatened by educated whites, they should learn from and with us. Instead, but now barring top white students from universities, they force people to leave the country and racial division and hatred thrives. Tit-for-tat has never achieved anything worthwhile. We've already lost the edge as far as being the powerhouse of Africa. The impact of this type of discrimination is going to be massive and the skill shortage is going to start biting harder and wider. But I guess people will only start thinking differently when we’v hit rock-bottom. Sad, sad state of affairs for every citizen of this magnificent country.

      sxp - 2013-10-15 09:08

      It was just talk, but behind the scenes that was never the plan.

  • Azurite - 2011-11-09 06:48

    The ANC are Racists!

      ChiefGalaktus - 2011-11-09 08:27

      TUKS is racists!

      Makatikamusona - 2011-11-09 09:21

      @ChiefGalaktus you might be correct because last time I checked there were still lecturing in Afrikaans there

      Azande - 2011-11-09 11:04

      Tuks staff is still dominated by whites, 70% they account for.

      Michelle - 2011-11-10 14:15

      @Makatikamusona. All Lectures at Tuks are in English! The only lectures that are still lectured in Afrikaans are the really big courses like BComs and then there is usually more than one class and you have the choice between english and Afrikaans. Get your facts straight!

  • Andrew - 2011-11-09 07:10

    I can relate with these stories as about 5 years ago my grandson was advised he would not be accepted at any SA univarsity for accountancy as there were too many applicants. Shortly thereafter my daughter and family decided to emmigrate to NZ as they saw no future for my 3 grandsons in RSA other factors were also responsible . On submitting his application to Auckland Uni was accepted immediately and is one of the top students with NZ's biggest bank as sponsor.

      makesuthink - 2011-11-09 11:31

      makatikamusona Where is it mentioned that the child was Grade E. What you have written shows that you could not have got more than F for english but a for bullsh1tting

  • raath - 2011-11-09 07:10

    This is so clearly a race thing.

  • shane.primmer - 2011-11-09 07:20

    Strange, my son was declined Enviromental Sciences at TUKS cause he can't speak Afrikaans.

      Guy - 2011-11-09 07:31

      His lack of Afrikaans shouldn't be a problem. Almost all lectures are in English at TUKS

      Shane - 2011-11-09 10:21

      Sorry, people nust have misunderstood me, It's not that we dont "SPEAK" Afrikaans, it's that my son doesn't do well in Afrikaans at school.

      Azande - 2011-11-09 11:05

      Tuks is afrikaans institution.

      Dumazile - 2012-04-15 09:16

      Mayb Afrikaans was his language of instruction that means he should have done better I suppose

  • Silver - 2011-11-09 08:21

    My sister is studying at TUKS right now. She is in her final year and she said she can’t wait to “get out of there”. The things she told me and what is happening on campus is disturbing to say the least. She will further her studies elsewhere, hopefully in Australia as most of her friends are already studying in Australia. One is a brilliant geologist that has been snapped up by the mines there but here he was denied. Hypocritical government! To the students, there is hope. There are places that are more than willing to assist you where politics does not restrict you, where you are allowed to study and where you are welcome. As I asked my sister once: Do you want to stay here and be subjugated or do you want to go where you will be allowed to flourish and live to your full potential? She should have listened to me from the start. Luckily the realities of the New South Africa are showing her the way and I will sleep better knowing she has a brighter future awaits her free from all the rubbish here.

      Makatikamusona - 2011-11-09 09:36

      @Silver You are not proudly South African I guess. Well some of us love this country so dearly and I think it will be fair if you elaborate on your statement "...The things she told me and what is happening on campus is disturbing to say the least..." Tell us what it is instead of just trying to tarnish our beautiful land with this baseless statement.

      Herman - 2011-11-09 09:40

      @ Makatikamusona...tell us how we as whites must be proudly South African, tell us what the new regime and all it's issues has brought to SA that will make us proud.....if you can.

      Azande - 2011-11-09 11:09

      @Herman, better life to the poor, opportunities to the majority. there u go, i hope it enlightens u.

      Dumazile - 2012-04-15 08:51

      People this is our chance now. You can know see that universities are racist by giving preference to a certain group but you were also given that in the past\ what goes around comes around\

  • Deon - 2011-11-09 09:08

    We need lots more doctors in SA, but getting into a medical school is also difficult if you are white.

      Azande - 2011-11-09 11:09

      Why is it difficult?

      Brigitte - 2011-11-09 12:18

      @azande - it is difficult if you are white as even if you have a 90% aggregate they are only taking 30 white applicants at UJ for example and the other places must be for other races eve if they only got 60% aggregate. Who would you rather be treating you? The sad thing is that many of these who get accepted will fail and will have denied top students places which they will never get back!

  • goughdd - 2011-11-09 09:13

    Where was Afriforum when young black students couldn't study at a university of their choice? Or weren't able to get into any university? Merely because of their colour. Any discrimination is unacceptable and it is a great pity that top students who will pass are denied access

  • Makatikamusona - 2011-11-09 09:24

    I think Minister Blade Nzimande together with Dr Motsoaledi have cleared this one already but let me remind you what they said. There are a certain number of students universities could admit per semester and that result in having a stricter admission criterion. So until universities are able to admit more student preference will be giving to those students who got even higher marks like 95% to 100% I think it is just a matter of space. Well this is probably not fair for students and it should not be their problem by their government. So if that is the only course they are willing to enroll for, then I think the interim solution is for government to negotiation some kind of deal with the other countries which are offering the course to take in our student. I am sure we all don’t expect the government to overcrowd the universities to an extend where two students have to share PC in a computer lab for example.

  • Nastassja - 2011-11-09 10:45

    As a student I can say that this is a problem everywhere. Not just at TUKS. It is sad that more deserving and hardworking students have to be pushed aside for people that just get accepted because of their historic background. Every year it shows that some of these students just can not compete with other students. I am very glad to see that people has started making a noise about this. If they want to call it racist, so be it. But racism goes both ways.

      Azande - 2011-11-09 11:13

      Why are these students not accepted by Tuks?

  • Roelof - 2011-11-09 17:31

    I had 8 distinctions and couldn't get in at UP to study Vet-science... Going to study Zoology now and try again... and again... and again...

  • michelle.freeman2 - 2011-11-09 17:51

    Were they really top performers? Unfortunately the matrics of 2010 set a concern in universities. Many were handed 25% extra and this caused chaos in universities in 2011. People who should have been applying for BA's were applying for PHD's. Our government created a tragedy for the future of our children by handing out pity marks. No one knows who is a "top performer" anymore, and true "top performers" won't be able to get a chance at becoming something big, as the universities will be filled up with people who 'MAY' be top performers. What a mess

  • Michelle - 2011-11-10 09:25

    I'm a Veterinary student and I was turned down 2 years in a row and was finally accepted after I had completed my honours. The selection then for white people was solely based on academics. Selection has to mirror the demographics of the country i.e. of the 100 people they select every year, more than 80 should be non-white. Luckily for us, there were only about 10 non-white students every year that applied and were immediately accepted no matter what their marks were.. leaving the remaining 90 spots for everyone else (i.e. the other 300people applying) to fairly fight over. They have now changed the curriculum and are accepted people based on their Matric marks instead of 2nd year Varsity marks and are really pushing for non-whites to apply to correct the Quota. This is not UP's fault, they are doing this because they are being pressured by the government.

      skootzie - 2011-11-17 12:36

      I'd really love to know how they think forcing Uni's to accept people with sub-par grades is going to improve the lot of South Africans. All it will do is create a larger workforce of people are inept at their jobs, and/or will waste their money and Uni's time because the students simply couldn't keep up with the curriculum. If they received sub-par grades at school HOW are they to succeed in their tertiary education? Come Government, riddle me this.

  • yummyhamster - 2011-11-19 14:41

    This country has become sad indeed.10 years ago after i studied and got high marks i need to start at the bottom as every one else does.But i could not as the only people they where taking for those positions where non whites. Unless you had a Degree. I could not afford to go to a university but i did what i could.When you look at job adverts these days there are more than enough ads to prove how racist this country is towards whites as they openly specify that it is a non white position or that only black or only indian people should apply. I managed to find a great job with a foreign company that does not see race but takes people on potential and skill. White people are blatantly being worked out of the country by this racist government.

  • sxp - 2013-10-15 09:04

    Where politicians get involved, the standard always drops. We need to remove them completely from education and let educational specialists run the show.

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