Tutu slams Nkandla, govt

2012-12-12 08:21

Johannesburg - Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu has criticised the expansion of President Jacob Zuma's home in Nklandla, it was reported on Wednesday.

"Who in their right minds could have approved the expenditure of more than R200m? And to do it in that area, where you have this nice place standing up and just around there the squalor and poverty," said Tutu.

"What is the matter with us?"

The Star newspaper reported that Tutu was speaking at the unveiling of a bench and tree in memory of struggle stalwart Kader Asmal at the Kirstenbosch National Botanical Gardens on Saturday.

A video of the event was shown to reporters on Tuesday.

He told National Planning Minister Trevor Manuel, who attended the event: "You don't belong in this government."

Tutu expressed concern about the state of education, the failure to deliver textbooks in Limpopo earlier this year and the recently released results of the National Assessments, which showed that Grade 9 maths pupils scored on average 13%.

"Trevor, you tell your boss this old man who said he was retired, I am going to come back.

"You tell him that this old man is now going to pray like he prayed for the Nats [the National Party, which enforced apartheid]."

Zuma's private residence has recently been upgraded, at a reported cost of R200m. The matter is currently being investigated by a public works task team.

  • jono.qmann - 2012-12-12 08:24

    we ask the same question everyday Tutu!

      patson.nedzamba - 2012-12-12 08:36

      Rabble, how do u know that he voted for ANC? As far as I can deduce, he was very critical of the post Polokwane ANC.

      jacob.zooma.9 - 2012-12-12 08:36

      This is getting old.

      patrick.buckley.712 - 2012-12-12 08:36

      "Captain Reaction" states the obvious! What took him so long, this is already old news.....

      gideon.walt - 2012-12-12 08:44

      The moneyy has been spent, the compound has been upgraded. Nothing will get that money back and redistributed to the real people in need!

      lionel.armstrong.77 - 2012-12-12 08:53

      the moral fiber of this country has been reduced to a few words cast from the sideline by an elderly cleric who has very little influence or fight left in him... Loyiso Gola for president!

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-12-12 08:53

      @Patrick: I'd love to hear "Captain Reaction"'s reaction when he does the actual math. Add the "displacement costs" plus associated costs and you are looking at approximately 450 million +. Add the road and other infrastructure and it really gets ridiculous. How many resources for the poor have been sacrificed just so this man can entertain his woman and eat lunch in a bomb shelter?

      attie.mostert.9 - 2012-12-12 09:03

      Please goverment doesn't listen to their own people, why would ANC listen to you?

      Desilusionada - 2012-12-12 09:03

      Took you a long time to say something about it. So how about an international statement to some of your overseas mates?.......

      fussed.anderson - 2012-12-12 09:13

      Tutu only enters the frey on round 5023. Where were you at round 1.

      mike.brett.79 - 2012-12-12 10:07

      The ANC needs to chan

      greggail.garnie - 2012-12-12 10:45

      The ANC should hang it's collective head in shame .... let's hope they come to their senses in Mangaung and retreat from a disasterous leader and an incompetent cabnet ... well said Arch!!

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-12 14:24

      Rabblerouser, did you get in the ballot box with Tutu? I remember him quite distinctly saying Zuma did not represent him. He also criticised the Polokwane mob for electing Zuma. Talk about ignorance

      edward.patterson.923 - 2012-12-12 15:07

      @jacob.zooma.9 Yes it is getting old, but so is the non-response of the ANC to corruption. The R200m would have built 4,000 RDP homes and that doesn't count the ancillary costs that go along with a construction project and this is just one many projects like this going on right now in SA. BTW if you are going to immigrate to the US there are far better places than Harrisburg PA. Harrisburg...from beautiful SA...really. I know PA

      ian.dejongh.562 - 2012-12-13 09:02

      Quote by Thomas Paine: "The duty of a true patriot is to protect his country from its government." How true is this when considering whats going on in South Africa???

  • mariuskowie - 2012-12-12 08:24

    TUTU, watch out! Zuma just got a reward for bravery. He will smite you down.

      patrick.buckley.712 - 2012-12-12 08:37

      It was awarded by the: "Worn out penile foundation".

      patsy.smith.125 - 2012-12-12 12:33

      Bravery for WHAT, for God's sake. Being part of 'the struggle', That is ludicrous - what? 20 years later. Is this a JOKE or what?

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-12 14:26

      no patsy, for shagging an HIV + woman without protection and living for so long to tell the tale

      frikb2 - 2012-12-12 19:44

      This "brave" president of ours were once the head DIS, the ANC`s "Intelligence Unit" (ANC Intelligence = contradiction in terms), anyway, when the SA Intelligence hunted him in Swaziland, he narrowly escaped through a toilet window, running like a rabbit....thats how brave this man is....

      irma.white.9 - 2012-12-13 09:38

      I'm also part of the struggle... the struggle to keep my income higher than my expenses... the government is making that pretty darn difficult.

  • merry.martin.944 - 2012-12-12 08:25

    Good for you, Arch... keep up the good work. Maybe your voice will be heard.

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-12-12 08:31

      You get the government you vote for.

      chez.kri - 2012-12-12 09:28

      @Rabble. Do you ever have anything nice to say about anyone other than yourself?

      espanyol.mpumi - 2012-12-12 09:39

      @Rabble - you are an idiot.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-12 14:27

      Rabble, my bones say you were dropped on your head as an infant, retard!

      salee.sithwell - 2012-12-13 01:26

      Er, RabbleRouser, did you vote for this government, seeing as you've also got it?

  • kalabafazi - 2012-12-12 08:26

    He does ask some pertinent questions, but pray as he may I don't think we will get the answers. If he is going to pray for something then let it be for the quick demise of the anc and their thieving ways.

  • fussed.anderson - 2012-12-12 08:26

    You go Tuts, you may have better luck

  • BoyvandieSuburbs - 2012-12-12 08:27

    I love Desmond Tutu. Please speak up more Arch!

      patson.nedzamba - 2012-12-12 08:37

      You gotta love that old man!

      thatTallCPTgay - 2012-12-12 09:05

      I do. Whenever i see his face i smile lol :) He is right about Trevor Manuel. He shouldn't be in that party, neither should Naledi Pandor. They are too good for those morons.

      Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-12-12 09:19

      eissshhh, and many had been mistaken to believe that this unwarranted expenditure at Nkandla was based on YOUR "Tutu TAX SA's poor White people" to really show how rich a black president can suddenly 'appear'. At least now the world knows that 99% of SA is not in favour of zuma nor his racist, divisive, retrogressive tribal anti democratic dictatorship!

  • moko.brian - 2012-12-12 08:28

    Lmao, you go Tutu. "Trevor, you tell your boss this old man who said he was retired, I am going to come back."

  • joahan.smal - 2012-12-12 08:28

    TAKE THAT YOU SKUNKS! That will teach them Tutu. I bet Zuma and his cronies are shivering in fear. Sorry to say old man, but you wasted your breath. Where there is a lack of self respect and pride, words mean nothing. What are our alternatives?

      mzondistanley - 2012-12-22 07:42

      National Party of Aparthead days all have their Presidents retired and have Homes with security gadgets installed by Government but a Black Present and former Terrorist is not appreciated for doing the same. Even if you do not like the person you have to respect his office!! Africaan means beyond being born or being a settler on the African Continent!! You to be born indeginant, from the villages, suffer under Aparthead but if your skin and hair had an advantage for you not to be described as Black , then you trying to benefit from both sides of aparthead and post aparthead!!! In short you are a Hypocrit!!!!

  • christo.piek.5 - 2012-12-12 08:29

    Everyone one is talking about corruption, but nothing is happening. No one in this government has the balls to stand up and do, not say, something about it. Unless the ANC government is defeated soon, we will be another Zimbabwe in five year's time. That is for sure!!

      greggail.garnie - 2012-12-12 10:48

      Agreed ....

  • werner.nel.712 - 2012-12-12 08:30

    Ask the voters....

  • sagren.narain - 2012-12-12 08:31

    Desmond Tutu is the MAN. Always was and always will be.

  • danie.smit.587 - 2012-12-12 08:32

    Could it be that black culture need a show of power , bling and blue lights, to make black leaders feel powerfull and forfilled

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-12 14:30

      black culture and white culture too it seems. I saw Kortbroek also being chauffered around in his blue lights. Then I saw Derek Hanekom, then Pat Davies, then it was Andries Nel, then, then, then. What a warped minded idiot. I hope you were castrated at birth because it will be sad if you have passed on your stupidity to poor little kids

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-12-12 08:33

    99% of south africans critisise that expenditure but there is no one who's listening, come up with the plan.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-12-12 08:58


      ansie.fourie.940 - 2012-12-12 09:12

      You vote him in so now vote him out. MASS ACTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • debduplessis - 2012-12-12 08:34

    At last a member who does not agree with the decay of this country & its people under the current military styled regime

  • mshiniboys - 2012-12-12 08:35

    Is someone trying to become a politician? churches need you sir

      matthews.magodiela - 2012-12-12 09:30

      Mshiniboys you need to understand that there is no barriers in politics. Not only politicians are tax payers even Priests pay tax and as long as you are a tax payer you need to be concerned on how your tax is being used. Wake up unless if you are a tender benefiary

      robyne.peel.9 - 2012-12-12 10:22

      religion and politics are one in the same

      harald.voney - 2012-12-12 13:35

      You could have said the same when he was fighting apartheid... now he fights the ANC. Go arch....

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-12 14:32

      mshiniboys, are ministers not allowed to vote? Take your head out of your s so you can think before writing crap neh

  • hennsa - 2012-12-12 08:35

    Is it really such a surprise that the education system is in shambles? It's an age old tactic to retain power, keep your voter base uneducated and they will react and make decisions with raw emotions rather than with level headed thinking. For any tin pot despot an educated man is a dangerous thing, they ask to many questions. This "war" against corruption will never be won until we can get our people educated and free thinking, it is a lost cause at the moment.

      Judy - 2012-12-12 12:45

      Spot on... I said the same thing last week.. Fools never differ... keep them uneducated and you have a strong power-base. Keep them multiplying and give them promises. If they get out of hand.. give them a medal...

      marius.j.rensburg.3 - 2012-12-12 16:02

      No doubt Hennsa I aggree. But lately I wonder if education is enough. Lets put education aside for now: Surely "the masses" voting for the ANC must at one point or another figure out that they not getting what were promised and so much corruption, either being informed by / news papers / internet / generally talking to your fellow mates. Does it really take "education" to make you think for yourself and start to use plain logic, and then vote otherwise?

  • Sakhiwo - 2012-12-12 08:37

    Please invite me when you start with your prayer Mr Tutu so that i can pray with you

  • craig.decks - 2012-12-12 08:38

    Give that man a bells ... TUTU for president !!

  • PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-12-12 08:39

    You tell 'em, Arch. You tell 'em!!

  • Debbie Starr Mills - 2012-12-12 08:39

    Go Tutu, go! Well done, at least he can't be accused of being racist!

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-12-12 08:40

    Good for you Arch !! Nkandlagate is a disgrace !! Next we'll have 13 % as the pass mark for matric ! The ANC accepts mediocrity as the norm !! And peckerhead Zuma says SA is moving forward !!

      musa.kamashobane - 2012-12-12 10:14

      I would not have said it better Gerald. The worst hypocrite president of our era

  • ronny.mashigo.7 - 2012-12-12 08:42

    Mr tutu is now old but he can still see things better than us youth and he still feel and worry about our future but all do we do as young south Africans is to want to allow second term for this man ! Zuma and malema to take this country in to deep depth, we need change no more zuma n malema pls,we suffered enough

  • kortbroek.duplessis - 2012-12-12 08:42

    I agree with Tutu. How somebody with a reasonably good reputation like Trevor Manuel can still associate himself with these bafoons I really don't know. You know I don't think Helen Zille would mind having you around at the DA

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-12 14:34

      That's right Derek. Besides, what has Trevor and his huge nose ever said or done to dissociate themselves from the thievery that's become a culture in the ANC? Birds of the same feather ...

  • craig.decks - 2012-12-12 08:48

    give that man a bells tutu for president !

  • goyougoodthing - 2012-12-12 08:53

    Tutu is the REAL legend, not Madiba. He has ALWAYS said it like it is.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-12 14:35

      Madiba is very old and frail. He is not even aware of his surroundings. Please leave the old man in peace

  • bushknife.vasan - 2012-12-12 08:54

    TUTU, your thoughts are honourable, but you of all people should know that we need a good fearing Christian government. You can not open any Sovereign state parliament or oath evoking spirits of the dead ancestors, muthi, foreign gods etc... Where`s God in our schools, finance, health system etc... If we remove God out of these areas, then we will suffer like America and wonder how God allowed hurricanes, floods, Well we want God out and if His hand is out, how can we question our faith????

      goyougoodthing - 2012-12-12 09:24

      Which god do you want? God doesn't exist. Leave god out of it.

  • Eterni80 - 2012-12-12 08:58

    wow, Tutu needs to read his office memos/the news - more often.

  • AyGeewils - 2012-12-12 09:01

    - sadder still most south africans don't care a hoot ...

  • ian.robertreid - 2012-12-12 09:02

    Bishop Tutu i and many others support yr strong drive complaint against the cost expansion of Zuma,s khaya? Absolute negligence?

  • thulani.masuku.79 - 2012-12-12 09:09

    im not surprised by the little short Archbishop.He is the same man 4yrs bek who said he feels embarrased to walk on Wall street and say he's South African.You have never liked Zumz n we all kno t

      thatTallCPTgay - 2012-12-12 09:23

      Ja and what is your point? He may not be perfect, but he doesn't go around f**king countless women, having babies, and he certainly doesn't steal public money to fund his own private home.

      Justin - 2012-12-12 09:31

      Stick to the subject, who cares if he does or doesn't like Zuma. Incompetence, ineptitude is what the discussion is about. Get some focus

      colin.langley - 2012-12-12 12:46 should be ashamed of yourself. You show no respect for this man that helped in a big way to set YOU free. This is what SA has become. The arrogance and disgusting attitude to bite the hands that freed you! The bloody nerve!

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-12 14:36

      What's there to like in the womanising thief called Zumzum?

      irma.white.9 - 2012-12-13 09:39

      Lots of people don't like Zuma, we can't all be wrong...

  • hezekiel.lefopane - 2012-12-12 09:09

    This old man likes publicity like DA...maybe is the strategy to get donations...

      thatTallCPTgay - 2012-12-12 09:32

      And when Zumba dances and sings umshini, he isn't doing it for publicity? Please man, you are so deluded. Wake up and smell the coffee, jissis

      colin.langley - 2012-12-12 12:46

      Some organisation must raise money to educate you Lefopane

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-12 14:37

      Lepofane, are you high on Zuma's impepho?

  • dickenseze - 2012-12-12 09:10

    i think its high time these Bishops cme out wth their real colour other than disguising as men of god while they ar deep in politics.Why dont they engage de government instead of hurling stupid insults in public?Isnt it that they ar all out to install Hellen as an alternative,or theirs is to boost mothlathes support ahead of mangaung?

      solo.mathe.5 - 2012-12-12 09:17

      Why on earth would they support the madam?...

      thatTallCPTgay - 2012-12-12 09:33

      The madam... racist much? I guess it doesn't matter that she played a role in the struggle, and helped expose what happened to Steve Biko? Oh ja, i forgot, it's always easier to shift the blame and make excuses.

      colin.langley - 2012-12-12 12:47

      Dumb and Dumberer

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-12 14:38

      clerics are not supposed to take active political membership you idiot. That is because their churches house members of all political parties. They must therefore not be seen to be supporting any particular party, but have a duty to speak out and fight against injustice such as apartheid and anc thieving

  • Novo911 - 2012-12-12 09:12

    Pray realy? we need more than prair we need a capible government with values that have the intrest of the nation at heart that has the insight foresight and will to make this country what it can be PROSPEROUS AND TRUELY FREE

  • clarence.bock.9 - 2012-12-12 09:12

    As long we have a bunch of greedy people in govt. I don't think anything is going to happen till govt coffers are milked dry by these looters who call themselves leaders.

      sandi.mblashwa - 2012-12-12 09:19

      tutu is got facts what he said.

  • brionyl.french - 2012-12-12 09:12

    Tutu go and tell that fool ZUMA yourself... you have access to him where as the man on the street doesnt, mind you the man on the street would kill him if they had access to him.

  • Rhulani - 2012-12-12 09:13

    They won't hear you Tutu, actually they don't care about citizens but themselves

  • Sabelo Nathie Zulu - 2012-12-12 09:14

    agga wena mkhulu ndini...who the hell you think you are...vice Jesus or Moses or prophet of some kind?? wena tutu you the most hypocrite person i ever seen, you use God's name in vain. i wonder what messages you preach to you church members because you are empty old-man. you dont know how to pray but how to criticise Zuma. God does not work like that....

      wo0two0t - 2012-12-12 09:37

      No one criticised your precious Zuma please read again "Tutu has criticised the expansion of President Jacob Zuma's home in Nklandla" He is saying why would government spend over 200million on one person who is already rich while there are people with next to nothing living next door who need it allot more – make sense? Tell me Sabelo – if Zuma wasn’t Zulu would you still be so loyal. What makes him such an honourable president? What has he done that is good for every South African?

      mammone.tau.5 - 2012-12-12 09:51

      Maybe you choose to listen to the things he stands for only when he talks about Zuma. And what does Zuma stands for anyway???

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-12 14:41

      Here is another one drunk from Zuma's impepho? If you not high, why not state facts and stop making up stuff about the Arch? On what basis is he a hypocrite? How is he using God's name in vain? How is he an empty old man? How does God work? Make sure you have sobered up from Zuma's impepho so that we can debate properly neh :)

  • matthews.magodiela - 2012-12-12 09:16

    Viva Archbishop Tutu Viva. Let them hate you for voicing up your mind. We know they are now busy strategising on how to attack you because they are very good in defending their wrong doings. South Africa need men and women who are brave enough to speak the truth without fear of being victimised or attacked.

  • thabelorale - 2012-12-12 09:20

    Woh woh woh ! Were you trying to write R20m and added one more zero ? Damn, South Africa is a filthy rich and sick country! People live in shacks and poverty is ravaging yet those entrusted to lead squander the taxpayers money! Lesotho is poor but the gap between the rich and the poor is not so huge and we do not have people living in shacks, shacks are made for animals !!!

  • chez.kri - 2012-12-12 09:25

    These comments amaze but don't surprise me. A short while ago all you naysayers were complaining about Tutu, saying that he must talk about the wrongs in this country and not about the rest of the world. Now he does just that and STILL you are determined to find fault with him. At least he has the corage to stand up and shout. He fears nobody and should be commended. What will we do if/when he stops saying these things? Who will take over as the moral watchdog? All you negative whining nafs? Heaven help us. Viva Tutu Viva!!!

  • masego.mahalefa - 2012-12-12 09:29

    What really even makes me more angry is the fact that 4000 people are going to determine the fate of the country in Mangaung.4000 ANC members out of +-50Mil RSA residents.Some members of the ANC are right,we need change,but it must be anything except ANC.I am black as they come and sick and tired with our government blaming apartheit.Aprtheit didnt spent 200M renovating Nkandla.Come the next elections,ANC can kiss my A*S with my vote.i love my country and im not going anywhere.Its not Rebublic of ANC,they think they are in power,i will show them who really has the power in 4years time.they must enjoy it while it last,cause i have had it with this bullS.

      thatTallCPTgay - 2012-12-12 10:12

      ^ What a man :)

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-12 14:44

      Amen Masego. Let's kick these corrupt old men and their lackeys out power in 2014

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-12-13 10:37

      Yep and those 4000 people are going to vote for the one that will give them the most gravy. It will be business as usual for the fat cats at Mangaung because Zuma will have to pay them back..

  • paul.korb.9 - 2012-12-12 09:30

    Why has it taken so long to speak out! We look to great minds like yourself to speak on behalf of the silent majority and the poor, but it is just as much about politics within the faithfull! As none of them have said enough is enough! The ANC is rotten to the core! And they Know it..............!

  • John Aris - 2012-12-12 09:30

    why we d blacks only think of ourselves only? In Nigeria there is no difference. God will see us 2ro by His grace.

  • kofi.ghanaman - 2012-12-12 09:34

    This old man is great! The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in times of comfort and convenience but where he stands in times of challenge and controversy-Martin Luther King.

  • dlayani.tivani - 2012-12-12 09:37

    Pray forus Dr.Tutu we r in trouble! We don't know what will happen after Magaung , what will happen after Zuma received His second term ? Trevor Manuel Sir ! We know u there why sidelined ? Its because of yo colour ? We need a good leader like u ! U r the one who can save the sinking ship !CRY THE BELOVED COUTRY !

  • teboho.martin.3 - 2012-12-12 09:38

    Tutu Good I am with you on this one,this clueless must be stoped.

  • corneliusz1 - 2012-12-12 09:42

    God doesnot answer stupid prayers Mr Archbishop.

      Erna - 2012-12-12 09:53

      God also doesn't like corruption and lies!

      Annette Jacobs - 2012-12-12 10:16

      God do answer people's prayers like he did in the bible. if we all turn back to God and ask him to save us from this faction in the anc that want to play god and even want to punish their own for not agreeing with their acts. Zuma asked the church people to pray for him and the goverment, we do Zuma but not for you, we pray for all our innocent and suffering people to be saved from you. nothing to do with an curse. Madiba also said if anc go wrong to to anc what anc did to apartheid. get rid of anc

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-12 14:46

      God also does not like thieves who inhale impepho and bewitch their followers to vote for them either, just like Zuma did two weeks ago in preparation for the ANC zombies to elect him to continue screwing SA for another term

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-12-13 10:39

      Tutu is going to pray for a new and effective government and we the voters are going to answer the old man's prayers!

  • Mzondi Wakwa Maqina - 2012-12-12 09:43

    Tutu the ANC stopped respecting you when you started to stand against them. I'm sorry that you are preaching to the rock that don't care what you think. ANC is rotten to the core and there is no coming back. The only thing we can do as South Africans is to vote them out of power.

      steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-12-12 12:13

      Mzondi, you are so right. Individuals can shout from the rooftops, but it is the voters that ultimately have the power to collectively force change. It doesn't matter who governs, as long as they are aware that public servants are just that, there to serve the people with honesty and integrity. There will never be another apartheid, but unless the voters vote for change and soon, we will have another apartheid, this time by way of a cANCer dictatorship.

  • Erna - 2012-12-12 09:50

    This government is so arrogant that they don't listen to anyone. You'd think that after all the allegations, as well as all the proven wrongs, against zuma, he'd hang his head in shame. But does he? No! I used to be embarrassed by the old apartheid government and am now embarrassed by our president and government.

  • mzi.mdondolo - 2012-12-12 09:54

    We are at the same boat Desmond Tutu. It shows that the current crop of the ANC leaders are for themselves. but what did we expect when votig for a person like Zuma. South Africa- Wake up!

      Smangaliso Nkosi - 2012-12-12 10:07

      This Bishop of Nottingham is nothing but a sell out. We know he never liked Pres Zuma even before Polokwane. Your sick tendencies never worked and will not work even in future. Go do your prayers, hope you die still hoping you silly wicked man!

      grant.montgomery.5074 - 2012-12-12 12:38

      The electorate did not vote for Zuma. The majority voted for the ANC whose NEC elected him as president.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-12 14:47

      How anyone likes that thief is a mystery Nkosi. Maybe it's the impepho that he uses to cast spells on anc zombies