Two teens held at place of safety

2012-03-01 09:00

Cape Town - Two teenage boys are being kept at a place of safety under the direction of the Bishop Lavis Magistrate's Court after they allegedly stabbed a 16-year-old boy to death, Cape Town police said on Wednesday.

Lieutenant-Colonel André Traut said the boys, also 16, were arrested after a Valhalla Park pupil was killed in a school yard argument on Tuesday.

They were assessed before the court procedure because they were minors. The victim was named as Raylin Fortuin, a grade nine pupil at Beauvallon Secondary School, provincial education MEC Donald Grant's spokesperson Bronagh Casey said.

Traut said a third 16-year-old involved in the argument was being treated in hospital and would make a court appearance later.

  • Katlego - 2012-03-01 09:11

    What is wrong with these teenagers, thats scary We should watch out for boys of around 16 years, they realy need help

      JohhnyBGood - 2012-03-01 09:54

      It is the youth in general. There is no respect. No respect for life, for elders, for discipline. No respect for enything. This is the result of the society we live in.

      Thelma - 2012-03-01 11:55

      Agree 100%. Our youth is out of hand!

  • Rebaone - 2012-03-01 09:49

    What is wrong with our youth? The youth of today should be checked to see whether they are alright upstairs or not.

  • SGL - 2012-03-01 10:04

    RIP Raylin. This makes me so angry - what on earth is going on with our youth!? Somehow I find myself blaming Julius Malema and his gang, absent parents and South Africa's stance on discipline! When I was 16, you got a damn good hiding (we weren't slapped or punched but the seats of our backsides would burn - this was not abuse) and/or were grounded for bad behaviour. And we respected our parents, teachers and fellow scholars. Now the youth run amock because parents and teachers are no longer allowed to discipline the children.

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-03-01 10:42

      have you experienced the youth in the UK and eastern Europe? not just SA youth!

      Trudy - 2012-03-01 11:02

      " parents and teachers are no longer allowed to discipline children"? What a load of bull. Spanking is not the only way to discipline children. I do think that parents and teachers should be taught alternative ways to discipline children. This is the second? time in one week that we read about teenagers who committed murder. The question does arise as to what kind of society are we. Judging from the hatred that we spew on a daily basis on this site, it seems that we ALL have some soul-searching to do

      MissGremlinSays - 2012-03-01 12:01

      @ Trudy - sorry, I disagree. I simply can't see how giving these boys detention for murder, is going to turn them into normal citizens. We have left our teachers powerless with the removal of corporal punishment. I would rather deal with one or two teachers who can't tell the difference between a hiding, and child abuse, than I would deal with and entire generation of thugs and bullies who have not been taught moral guidlines.

      Trudy - 2012-03-01 14:08

      Ms Gremlin nobody said anything about giving these boys detention for murder. I simply responded to an absurd statement. While I understand why many people feel that corporal punishment should be re-introduced into our schools, I do not agree with it. Children do not learn how to handle conflict humanely when spanked. They might even learn that violence (hitting other people) is ok. Respect for an adult and fearing an adult are two different things. What we need is for our children to learn respect. Some misbehaving children might simply be acting out. If we hit them instead of attending to their needs, we do more harm-they could become angry and resentful and perhaps violent teenagers. I certainly don't have the answers, but I believe spanking is the easy way out and that too many teachers do not know the difference between a hiding and abuse. One last point, these teenagers are the children of a generation of people that were given hidings!

  • Trudy - 2012-03-01 10:23

    RIP Raylin. Condolences to the family.

  • Muneer23 - 2012-03-01 10:35

    I drive pass Beauvallon Secondary School every morning. That school looks like Pollsmoor prison (no kidding). It's really a sad reality to see a place of knowledge and education being turned into a Maximum security camp because of its surrounding enviroment.

  • MissGremlinSays - 2012-03-01 11:56

    Mother nature. Place of Safety? For their safety or ours? What cages were these boys raised in, that kicking a person to death over a soccer ball is appropriate behaviour?

      Trudy - 2012-03-01 12:17

      You were quiet on the other (three) teenagers who stabbed an older man to death. I wonder why? Because you "know the difference between right and wrong"?

      MissGremlinSays - 2012-03-01 12:27

      Don't have the luxury of being able to trawl news sites all day long, I did not see the story.

  • Zain - 2012-03-01 12:50

    It is easy to blame the youth for everything, it is time that we looked at our behaviour as adults. Youth did not invent the gun, the kinfe, the bomb or violence; these are age old things. We need to start taking responsability for what we teach our youth, how we role model for our youth and the time we spend with them. As adults it is our job to guide, discipline and show the youth how to behave. I work with youth in the townships everyday and everyday I start to understand why they are so angry, why they do the things they do for the attention they receive. Remember that attention whether positive or negative is still attention.

  • Dan - 2012-03-01 14:37

    Why the hell are they being kept in a place of safety. Hulle was mos dapper groot manne. Give them to the community, and the parents of the deceased. RIP Raylin. :'-(

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