Ubuntu key to our society - Zuma

2012-09-22 18:05

Johannesburg - Without respect and ubuntu, members of society become hooligans, President Jacob Zuma said in Alexandra on Saturday.

"We believe that all human beings are equal and important...that they must be respected by virtue of their humanity.
"Once we lose respect for one another and ubuntu, what type of society will we be?

"If we build a society without these two, we are building a society of hooligans," he told the Alexandra township centenary celebration.

Zuma criticised those who spoke recklessly against others just because they did not share the same views.

"If we do not agree as people, let us argue with respect and not by violence, saying whatever we like to people.

"That does not build a nation. South Africans are not hooligans. We are a nation of very proud respectful people who stand up for their rights but do so without losing dignity and ubuntu," Zuma said.

He urged the community of Alexandra not to join the violent service delivery protests which engulfed some parts of the country.

The violent protests, Zuma said, reversed what had already been achieved through the struggle and by the democratic government.

"We must never allow anger to reverse the gains we have made through decades of struggle. The new violent protests...have no place in a democratic society. We cannot destroy that which we have built ourselves."

He commended the Alexandra township which was associated with great leaders such as Nelson Mandela, Moses Kotane and Joe Modise.

Other icons associated with the township included Orlando Pirates chairperson Irvin Khoza, the late Simon "Mahlathini" Nkabinde, Ntemi Piliso, Mahotella Queens and the Dark City Sisters.

Zuma applauded progress made by the Alexandra Renewal Project which was launched 10 years ago to rebuild the township and remove the legacy of its past.

The project started with a budget of R1.3bn and last year this was increased to R2.2bn.

Zuma earlier met Alexandra community leaders who submitted complaints over the issuing of title deeds in the area.

He committed himself to return to the township in October but urged the residents to celebrate what the township had achieved thus far. Zuma urged workers not to follow the path taken by striking Lonmin workers in Marikana when they refused to use recognised trade unions and caused negotiation process to be stalled.

"Let Alexandra be a mother, teaching people how they can solve their own problems."

The celebrations at a packed Alexandra stadium, were marked with poetry, dance and music.

Gauteng Premier Nomvula Mokonyane and Johannesburg mayor Parks Tau were among the dignitaries in attendance.

  • lownabester - 2012-09-22 18:14

    Zuma, Ubuntu begins at home, YOUR home, Look after the poor and we will have no problems.

      mihaip007 - 2012-09-24 13:00

      zuma - take that ubuntu and SHOVE it somewhere VERY DEEEP where the sun don't shine!

  • max.reynecke - 2012-09-22 18:16

    Zuma you make me sick, where is your Ubuntu compassion when you make your corrupt deals? Your wives and children are on hundreds of company boards where they continue to suck this country dry and you talk about Ubuntu. I see the poverty with my own eyes every day and see what it does to the people that believe your are a very sick human being.

  • Hendrik JJ Kruger - 2012-09-22 18:18

    No the key to society is good leaders setting good examples. Not raping and corrupting his own people and country. Liar!

  • henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-22 18:23

    Ubuntu = Keep cadres out of jail whilst growing swiss accounts....

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-09-22 18:30

    Ubuntu will not pay peoples' wages/salaries/insurance policies, including funeral policies/social grants/taxes to the governmet, or give people homes and jobs. We need the plain discipline of knowing that if you are not suitable for the job you find yourself in or if you are not doing your job, you either leave voluntarily or you get dismissed. Forget all the other BS. In the meanwhile the rest of society must suffer because Ubuntu is being neglected or not applied? What nonsense.

  • themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-22 18:34

    If “ubuntu” means screwing SA over and over and all over again the way you and your cadres have been carrying on, then screw ubuntu

  • kobie.nel1 - 2012-09-22 18:36

    Ubuntu was thought up by the lazy stupid ones, so they could sit back and eat. To be fed by the working intelegent ones. Such a shame that some intelegent ones fall for it.

      Hendrik JJ Kruger - 2012-09-22 18:59

      @kobie - so true man. Wish people would realize that you get somewhere in life if you educate yourself and work hard. A foreign concept in SA because people believe they are owed something, everything just because they are "special". Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country - JF Kennedy.

      blip.noodlum - 2012-09-22 21:32

      "Intelegent" (sic) people can spell.

  • Peter Zylstra - 2012-09-22 18:40

    Maybe zuma does not know it, but respect is earned a concept he is to thick headed to grasp!

  • Andre - 2012-09-22 18:47

    Ubuntu is most probably the single most important reason for failure by Africans in Africa. Ubuntu means covering up and protecting each other for their mistakes, corruption and all other shortcomings at the cost of good and fair governance and the well being of the citizens of the country. Ubuntu should be banned!

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-09-22 18:59

      Exactly. The weak (useless) protecting the weak (useless). And so the weak (useless) become the rulers and even weaker (more useless.) The cycle continues.

      nico.dejongh.90 - 2012-09-23 13:46

      Ubuntu where rapists flourish ... the sickest joke of the century .. from 'the man' himself.

  • braamc - 2012-09-22 18:54

    Let us start by giving back tax monies in the form of service delivery and not theft by yourself and your filthy thieving government, looking at the pic, you truly are the laughing stock

  • mo.chalale - 2012-09-22 19:01

    Look who's talking about respect #shocking

  • Sizwe Dlamini - 2012-09-22 19:13

    @Hendrik,where do live because look everywhere and u will see black people working hard,in mines its hard work hence u dnt see whites digging for gold,in farms who is working hard,factories all over,you think whites are where they are cause they worked hard? not at all they just got everything given to them,Viva Malema viva

      irvin.mkhari - 2012-09-22 19:22

      wow! what a concrete statement.

      mxolisi.nala - 2012-09-22 23:22

      i secong that Sizwe though i don't like Malema, but whites forced, i mean pushed me to support Malema.

      henk63 - 2012-09-23 08:14

      @mxolisi.nala - Whites pushed you to support Malema? Sorry I don't believe you. You supported Malema and his kind out of your own free will, the moment he started making noises to grab the so-called "riches" of the country. You support him because you also want a free ride, and you are probably as useless as he is. Don't blame your stupidity on whites.

      merven.halo - 2012-09-24 10:00

      Lol, stupidity and lack of reasoning force you to support Malema.

  • irvin.mkhari - 2012-09-22 19:16

    na wena u hava vumunhu na khambe a u xiximi vanhu van'wani,rhangela hi xikombiso.

  • khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-09-22 19:16

    Ubuntu! Neh!

  • Hendrik JJ Kruger - 2012-09-22 19:21

    Well if you aim for working hard in mines or on farms I guess that's where you'll end up? Have some ambition. I come from a very poor background, but my dad always said that has no money to give me, but he gave me life and that i should use it. I never knew what i wanted to be one day, but i knew i would go to university. Thats what i was taught. And for that i had to pay with bar jobs and many loans. But i wanted to make my dad and my family proud. Always trying. Have some self respect and stop believing in rapists and thieves. And by the way, I said people not blacks. If the shoe fits, well go ahead...

  • valerio.beserra - 2012-09-22 19:23

    The inconvenient truth is that the Ubuntu system is now broken and dying. Those entering the urban setting must adapt and absorb the Western individualistic system and values. Many are unfortunately stuck in the ladder, between their African worldview and the aggressive Western system. To make this inconveninent truth bearable we have the ethnic jokes: BUPPIE (Black Yuppie) speaking English and denying his mother tongue; the COCONUT, brown outside and white inside. Wake up, Mr. President.

  • Hendrik JJ Kruger - 2012-09-22 19:25

    And yes you are so right. There's no white people working in mined and on farms. Same man I feel for you. Good luck with that. Love and kisses. Xxx

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-22 19:37

      not even one white engineer? oh yes Bee.....

  • peter.mansfield.395 - 2012-09-22 19:27

    "Without respect and ubuntu, members of society become hooligans". So that is what happened to our leaders?

  • lovenergy - 2012-09-22 19:33

    I wish I had a big bag filled with wishes so that I could grant atleast have of these wishes the ANC makes so freely left right and centre. If only they believed the words that came out of their mouths every week this country would be less broken. Great leaders of the past had wisdom, compassion and passion, they were leaders because they were the best. Our leaders are jokes, they don't care about the future of our children; sorry to say but we are on our own.

  • charmaine.mcdonald2 - 2012-09-22 19:34

    Okay President Zuma, where in the scriptures does God say that you can HAVE MORE THAN ONE WIFE? But your people are backwards in your traditional beliefs, so what is God's Tradition? This is a new generation of Human Beings, and you are not a good example as a leader and a man.

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-09-22 19:54

      Solomon had many and the rules under the old Hebrews institagated by god were actually quite clear: You could toss your wife away if you did not like her. All there in the bible. You are on your own now. Sorry. Oh yes, the marriage age of male and female in Hebrew society at the time? Google it and live with the shock and reality. Not coming up for the president of this country now - but after all, let him marry as many as he likes right now, the retraction of all those benefits to the various relationships and their consequences WILL be still take place, shortly in fact, in our lifetimes.)

  • solanga.maluleke - 2012-09-22 19:37

    Zuma you must stop arguing with young boys cause you have already lost your dignity. By criticizing what the youth ''s opinions wont help you as you have promised 450000 jobs and failed to full fill your promises. When you see young man embarking on strike it means they are all unemployed do something to stop any ill gathering as you are a leader but your advisors are filling you with wrong ideas. None of them are feeding you with good minds other than blaming what others are doing. I invite you to my Church next week so that we can ask God together that what went wrong.

  • alaina.nel.12 - 2012-09-22 19:46

    All hooligans see the president is one and they become hooligans too.Look at the schools and crime and last on the list concerning you is the poor.

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-09-22 19:48

    We might as well be honest. VERY FEW people in this country care or take whatever comes out of Zuma's mouth seriously except if he indicates some punitive measure. The rest is just BS.

      Hendrik JJ Kruger - 2012-09-22 22:41

      I really won't mind if he used some of my tax money to employ someone to photoshop his mugshots into something more palatable. He manages to look moronic on all his pictures! Shame man!

  • Tim Elliott - 2012-09-22 20:03

    Yawn.Gulp.Which South African with a functioning brain can take Zuma seriously?It boggles the brain that he still has numbers supporting him.It all boils down to lack of intellect...that simple!

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-09-22 20:04

    And so speaketh the gentleman of high morals. Need I say more?

  • J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-09-22 20:05

    So it is, Jacob, but where is it taught in State schools?

  • squeegee.pilot - 2012-09-22 20:08

    N24 Nazis deleting my posts again...

  • tinyiko.ngobeni1 - 2012-09-22 20:27

    We are just sorry for our country because we had a hope that has Zuma as president Will change the country to be country that fight against poverty, but we were all wrong. Because instead of helping the poor you are busy fighting with youth such as Malima .

  • phuti.hlabane - 2012-09-22 20:32

    He is a rapist,wht a joke,

  • Raymon - 2012-09-22 20:49

    Most people in S.A. dont even own a PC. hahahahaha ..

      sally.lewitt - 2012-09-22 21:30

      If money was spent correctly ALL students would of at least have a basic pc with standard internet access for educational purposes and tutors on hand...

  • anele.mveku - 2012-09-22 20:57

    MR president with all due respect but you are being a hypocrite...when Malema was disrespectful other people you kept quite nw that the tables have turned u give a lecture abt respect? Plz.

  • Hendrik JJ Kruger - 2012-09-22 21:03


  • Raymon - 2012-09-22 21:15

    'The violent protests, Zuma said, reversed what had already been achieved through the struggle and by the democratic government.' So, what he's saying is that we are moving forward now, sinse we are all the time moving backwards, and the protests reversed that trend ..

  • blip.noodlum - 2012-09-22 21:30

    Ubuntu is a total myth. It may have existed in the 19th century but it is long dead now.

  • sally.lewitt - 2012-09-22 21:36

    With all due respect Ubuntu is popping its head up NOW cause if Juju goes to trail zoom zoom's spear is on the chopping block, so my gut feel is someone is grasping at straws.. Your knee deep JZ.. Oops!

  • Ernest - 2012-09-22 21:58


      sally.lewitt - 2012-09-22 22:18

      A chancer..

      susanna.smit.7 - 2012-09-23 08:17

      The South African president.

  • zolani.lubelwana - 2012-09-22 22:01

    Guys! I really want to urge most of you to understand one thing. You may hate someone and what he represent but respect him. President Zuma is our president. If you're in this country, he is your president. When you refer to your self as a South African, he is your president. I DON'T AGREE with most of what he says but I can not lash out on him with vulgar and hate as most of you do. If you are white and younger than 35yrs, you have no idea what your fathers and grand feathers were doing to us as blacks. But our fathers have moved on. If, say president Zuma was your father or grand father....yes you. Would you speak to him this disrespectful way,even if you don't agree with him? We, the youth both black and white are the future of this country. JZand those guys will die, is this how we are going to treat each other when we don't agree? RESPECT!!!

      chhpurdy - 2012-09-23 01:33

      Respect is earned, not given. When Zuma does something worthy of respect, maybe he will get some.

  • james.ilukena - 2012-09-23 00:55

    Mr president don't contravene your self last later this week you said that you don't create people now what are you telling us.

  • james.ilukena - 2012-09-23 00:59

    If the killing was in Zimbabwe zuma could ask his masters to investigate human rights abuse.

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-09-23 06:54

    Mr Stupid Zuma..if all people are equal why are the whites being discriminated against ?? Ubuntu se gat !!

  • mbusi.t.nzimande - 2012-09-23 07:06

    No one ascends to the presidency without intellect,but street smarts and political savvy won't run our country,we've been dearly entertained for the past 4 years but now he must hang-up his red nose and move on.

  • konfab - 2012-09-23 07:39

    I agree with Zuma Free and open source operating systems make people happy enough not to kill

  • social12345 - 2012-09-23 07:51

    It's the Nature of the Beast (in the DNA), Murderers, Rapists and Thieves. Their brains are designed to act on two impulses only, 1) Consumption 2) Destruction. The scourge of our planet, they are neither Human or Animal, they are "The Unreconstructable Neanderthals!"

  • fanie.smit.5 - 2012-09-23 08:32


  • Maketa Khayalakhe Khekhe - 2012-09-23 08:54

    lol hooligans, Ubuntu, dignity those words came from the wrong mouth, where were his advisers before saying this dramatic statements

  • jason.marshall.1804 - 2012-09-23 10:37

    Zuma, you earn respect. Not sure I respect anything you have done so far...

  • enlightened.bowman - 2012-09-23 10:48

    I am scared. I am really scared. The spear has lost it. What in the world is going through his head? Besides rape, fraud, corruption enrichment, polygami, that is?

  • emile.vanrayner.7 - 2012-09-23 11:52

    well would you look at that! the pres is actually doing something "good" for once...

  • bless.boswell - 2012-09-23 11:58

    You already have a nation of thugs you smug old a******e. Get out and make way for someone with both brains and morals to rescue us from this appalling mess you have created.

  • Bernadette Berney Phillips - 2012-09-23 12:15

    Seriously you!!!! Our country is a mess because of you and your fat buddys! Share your wallet then 3 armed robbers wouldn't have felt the need to walk into a restaurant and start randomly shooting killing one of SA's greatest boxers ever and a 21year old will never forget her 21st!!!!