Union boycotts Lonmin peace accord

2012-08-31 08:12

Rustenburg - The Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union (Amcu) will not sign the peace accord brokered by the department of labour, its president Joseph Mathunjwa said on Thursday.

"We have no fight with anyone. Let the police, Lonmin management and the workers signed the peace agreement," he said.

The labour department called for the meeting with Lonmin management, striking workers' representatives and four unions, including Amcu, to try and find a solution to the Lonmin strike.

The other unions were: the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM), Solidarity, and Uasa.

Put out of meeting

Speaking after the meeting adjourned on Thursday, Mathunjwa said he felt as if Amcu had been sidelined in the talks and it would be no part of them going forward.

"We were told to stay outside the meeting from 13:00. At 18:00 we asked how long will we be outside and we were told to wait for 30 minutes. We are now surprised to see delegates walking out of the plenary."

Mathunjwa said he suspected that striking workers' representatives were being "pushed around".

"The meeting did not deliberate on the issue raised by the workers," he said.

The National Council of Trade Unions (Nactu), to which Amcu is affiliated, earlier said the workers' demand was proper and legitimate.

Workers at Lonmin's platinum mine in Marikana went on strike on August 10, demanding a salary of R12 500 a month.

"We will negotiate for our members. The only barrier is the salary agreement signed, which Amcu was not party to. We want the parties involved in the agreement to unlock it so that Amcu can participate," said Nactu president Joseph Maqhekeni.

Workers' representatives’ spokesperson Zolisa Bodlani told workers in the morning that the unions had agreed to re-open salary negotiations.

Miners charged with murder

Two weeks ago, police opened fire on a group of protesting miners, killing 34 of them and wounding 78. In the preceding week, 10 people were killed, two of them policemen and two security guards.

Another 270 were arrested. They have since been charged with murdering their colleagues.

In a statement, the labour department said the issues discussed at the meeting were of a vast nature and had required several processes and various engagements with different constituencies in the process.

"The workers representatives will report back on Monday, and the plenary will meet at 14:00 [on Monday]," it said in the statement.

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-08-31 08:23

    These guys are just itching to destroy any remaining credibility for South Africa.

      john.jack.1612147 - 2012-08-31 08:39

      Nelson Mandela destroyed the credibility of South Africa when he introduced trickle down economics whereby he allowed corporates to continue with apartheid era oppression and exploitation

      larry.piggott1 - 2012-08-31 08:49

      And your name says it all, Moron.

      chris.novak.9235 - 2012-08-31 08:50

      Great negotiating skills our government has. Leave out a few players from the negotiation??!!

      yvonne.joseph.1612 - 2012-08-31 08:54

      Zambia nationalised the mines- Disaster. Zimbabwe did the same. Nyere nationised Tanzania- Disaster. Can't we avoid the same. Frank

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-08-31 09:00

      Phumi, whatever happens, unless you are well connected, me and you will never enjoy anything. Assuming you do any work at all, you will continue working hard, whilst the elite reap the benefits of the mineral wealth. It was like that in the Soviet Union, it is like that in North Korea, it lis like that in China. Communism or socialism is unimplementable in its rational theoreticl form, because it must be done by humans, who by nature are greedy, and will always look after themselves first. Look at the big communist Blade, he will give you all the reasons why it is ok to benefit from the privileges of being a minister whilst he claims he is a communist - it is in front of you guys but you chose to blame the guys who employ people and pay taxes, and you leave the guys who are actually living luxuriously through your taxes (if you pay any) alone!

      hermann.hanekom - 2012-08-31 09:06

      Don't nationalise, Mechanise.

  • john.jack.1612147 - 2012-08-31 08:31

    The behaviour of the ruling ANC cadres is worse than that of the previous white apartheid government. The police murders strikers and the strikers are accused of murder. Ther black police,men would never shoot and murder white strikers.

      tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-08-31 09:12

      @Jack to compare the ANC government to that of the Apartheid i think its way exaggerated you will never know the deeper damage that the apartheid system to left the many (i am not blaming apartheid for this merely correcting your statement) this is an issue that needs to be tackle and for the fact that we have people criticising and not being jailed or people drawing the president without beign crucified then maybe you did not understand the effect of apartheid because you were on the giving side not receiving

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-08-31 09:38

      @Tshepo, indeed the damage is much more than many people can perceive. It is deep rooted and will take a long time to heal. Unfortunately then some people, like Juju, are taking advantage of the situation to their benefit.

  • phumi.ntlabati - 2012-08-31 08:37

    The righfull owners of the mineral wealth beneath the soil of Marikana who are the workers must be given what is due to them. Where are those reserves that the owners of Lonmin made during the hey days of platinum proice just a moon ago? One load of a haul truck can afford to pay the entire staff of Lonmin including the workers and still get a change. What is difficult in giving the minum wage to those who demand what is due to them?

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-08-31 08:55

      Obviously you do not understand mining, dear. To dig up an ounce of platinum, you need to dig out about 20 tons of rock - that is many truckloads, not one as you allege. Secondly the rightful owners you are talking about, is that the people from Lesotho, Swaziland, Mozambique, etc ? who are you talking about? SO someone must prospect for them, do the drilling, put the plant, and they just reap the benefit, because someone shows them where to drill? They do get more than a minimum wage by the way - I am not saying it is sufficient, or it is just, there is a lot wrong, but giving in to demands will lead to anarchy, dear. It does seem that Bantu education really did a lot of damage, such that most of you cannot see the wood from the trees, hence you think nationalisation will lead to an "equitable" distrinbution of the proceeds - you have not even begun to think of how the formula should look like!

      sharon.houghton.984 - 2012-08-31 09:31

      Go and visit a communist country, which is the views would fall under (if there are any left) and try and stand up and have a say. You would not be even to express your views as you do above!

      oompie.netoompie - 2012-08-31 09:36

      If the Dutch and English never came to this part of the world there would not have been any mines. So who does it belomg to ?

  • Spiral - 2012-08-31 08:50

    "By Stephen Gunnion Aug. 30 (Bloomberg) -- South Africa’s rand is posting the worst losses among major currencies after the deadliest mine violence since the end of apartheid prompted investors to sell the nation’s bonds. The rand slumped 2.9 percent this quarter, compared with gains for commodity producing nations such as Australia, Canada and New Zealand. South African notes are the second-worst performing behind Greece this month as foreign investors sold 1.9 billion rand ($226 million) of debt since police shot dead 34 striking workers at Lonmin Plc’s Marikana platinum mine on Aug. 16." Nice one morons! So worried about your own pockets that you couldnt be bothered that your actions are running our country into the ground! Oxygen theives!

  • manningi1 - 2012-08-31 08:53

    Show the mines who is boss. Stay away from work so the mines go out of business.

      sharon.houghton.984 - 2012-08-31 09:32

      and we will all be poor - well done! Its only foreigninvestment and countries outside of Africn that bring in most of the money. What a stupid emotional statement to make,

      allan.keyzer - 2012-08-31 10:46

      All the mines will do is give your job to a machine or to one of the millions that are unemployed.

      kala.bafazi - 2012-08-31 11:32

      manningi - Assuming for a minute that you are not a troll, go back and read what you typed. Let's assume (again) that the mines go out of business. What will the miners then be earning. I'll give you a clue. It will be less than the minimum wage. So now the miners have no jobs because all the mines have closed and all the miner knows what to do is mine because he has no real education so he can't get another job. The rest of the country suffers because we have no income from our natural resources. The short of it is you, and those that think like you, are all tjops.

  • MarkSchrade1980 - 2012-08-31 09:01

    Geez I'm sooooo tired of this story already......

  • tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-08-31 09:06

    Good move by AMCU, i remember when the minister, NUMSA and other unions held their first meeting they said AMCU was not recognised by Lonmin management and they were not invited to that meeting and i was surprised by that bias move, whether some were recognised or not but everyone involved were suppose to be part of that from the onset why now they want your signatures? This just show how the politicians, unions and management disregards the fundemantal rights of the workers

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-08-31 09:41

      The governement, as a neutral arbiter should not have "taken sides" but called all involved to the table - whether recognised by Lonmin or not, the fact is they are an interested party!

  • pdilapiso - 2012-08-31 09:27

    According to me our Government including President Zuma qualify to answer to the International Criminal court (ICC) for the genocides of Marikana workers!

  • robynne.els.1 - 2012-08-31 09:54

    This was an illegal strike and to top it off many people were killed so I say fire the whole lot of them and give the jobs to somebody else! Then these fools can go beg to wash cars and work in people's gardens, maybe then they will learn to appreciate a job!

  • Phelamanga - 2012-08-31 10:42

    It would be a nice change if unions, instead of demanding higher wages, began to demand that government reintroduce subsidies on food, clothing and basic products produced in South Africa. By continually demanding higher wages for their members the cost of doing business in SA becomes too expensive, and direct foreign investment will go elsewhere. Unions should also demand that executive salaries be brought in line with South African conditions and not those of the developed nations. There should be a cost plus 10% on all products bought and sold,unless subsidised where no profit margin is calculated, and bank charges for people earning over R10,000 a month should be implemented thereby making banking affordable and free for the majority of the population. Monies raised from bank charges should be earmarked solely for education and training and health as part of a redistributive process. People, including the president of SA, earning in excess of R200,000 per annum should pay 30% plus 1% for every R10,000 over R200,000 in personal income tax. Bonuses should be only equivalent to one month's salary across the board and overtime payments should be tax-free. VAT on services and telecommunications should be scrapped. By doing this the country would become less expensive and goods and services would be more accessible. We must become a qualitative, not a quantitative nation. And scrap racist legislation so that all people can contribute to a working nation.

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-08-31 12:21

      Not sure which books you read! Bank charges by the way go to the banks and not the governement. Bonuses are used to try to incentivise people, whether its dne correctly is a completley different argument. Even horse trainers reward their horses for doing well!

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