Use MK cadres to fight poachers - MEC

2012-03-16 14:41

Durban - The KwaZulu-Natal agriculture and environmental affairs MEC has proposed incorporating former Umkhonto we Sizwe cadres into anti-poaching units, according to a report on Friday.

Speaking in Dundee on Thursday, Meshack Radebe said poachers operated with military precision and often have great resources at their disposal, ECR Newswatch reported.

He said authorities needed to fight fire with fire to curb rhino poaching.

The department's Jeffrey Zikhali added that criminals often flew into parks with helicopters and escaped quickly after killing the animals.

He said many former MK operatives were unemployed, and were highly trained in intelligence gathering.

Zikhali said people living on the East Coast were blessed with natural wildlife and needed to actively preserve this heritage.

"We in KwaZulu-Natal are especially privileged to have all these parks and natural resources ... and I think if people are educated on how valuable this is, not only to us but also to future generations, I think it could make all the difference," he said.

The Rhino War News Bulletin, run by Tim Condon, a former KwaZulu-Natal game ranger who is now based in Canada, reported on Monday that 109 rhinos had been poached in South Africa since the beginning of 2012.

  • tom.vorster - 2012-03-16 14:47

    Now theres a brilliant idea, theyve been sitting on their butts for nearly 20 years, are fully fit, bushwise and broke. Bye bye rhino!

      John - 2012-03-16 15:14

      Not only that......check this "....MK operatives were unemployed, and were highly trained in intelligence gathering....". It doesn't sound that someone is willing to patrol. This is a "paid" commercial. I wonder when we will read about COSATU "special forces" value proposition in anti rhino poaching.

      Hugh - 2012-03-16 16:32

      or the ANCYL special operations unit?

  • natasha.fukuchi - 2012-03-16 14:53

    I think this is a brilliant idea!

      John - 2012-03-16 15:18

      It is a brilliant long there are any bridges that MK can demmolish and chebeens which can be attack to "rescue their brothers".

  • bradleybrits - 2012-03-16 14:55

    Planting bombs might not be the best tactic to tackle rhino poachers :p

  • chris.faurie - 2012-03-16 14:59

    The cadres is useless.The only thing they will hunt is grants and handouts.

      Irene - 2012-03-16 16:06

      Obviously the clowns in charge don't want the rhino poachers caught if they want to use the MK fools.

  • Dennis - 2012-03-16 15:08

    All M K ever did was blow up Wimpy's and sub stations !!

  • Bloodstone - 2012-03-16 15:09

    I wonder which would be the better disciplined and better trained in bush warfare:- ex MK or ex SADF? But I doubt if there are any of the latter sitting around waiting for watch me getting shot down in flames

  • Robert - 2012-03-16 15:09

    i thought they joined the SAD(f) years ago...

      John - 2012-03-16 16:09

      They joined but not for long. Discipline and army principles are not for them.

      Jonathan - 2012-03-16 21:08

      I had 8 ex MK members in my platoon in 1994. They lasted a week. no diccipline, no training, no education just plain useless. They reqeusted a transfer and did gaurd duty at the gate. Even this they could not do properly and ended up cleaning the base. I don't know what hapened to them after I left. Propably became generals.

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  • Hans - 2012-03-16 15:22

    Hey batho! that what I would call quick extermination - of the Rhino's.

  • Antipoaching - 2012-03-16 15:24

    I think this offer should be thrown open to ex-MK and ex-SANDF. Appoint Commanders from both to lead the squads and send them in with a "one bullet, one poacher" ethos and standard operating procedure.... then let the poachers fall where they may

      Francois - 2012-03-16 18:30

      The problem is that you will need to send a Rottweiler along and there are precious few ex SADF (the N came in only after 1994) commanders still sitting around, that leaves pretty much the ex MK soldiers that were so good at gathering intelligence in the 1989 battle of the Limpopo that it drove the SADF all the way back to Voortrekkerhoogte as far as I can remember. How are the MK soldiers going to find there way back to the Kruger without a Rottweiler?

  • Jeffrey - 2012-03-16 15:25

    Good idea. Right now any help is needed. Give them licence to shoot anyone caught in possession of rhino horns. No court process needed. Let them instill a bit of fear into these syndicates.

  • Jacques - 2012-03-16 15:31

    Oh my word everyday there is some clown making ridiculous statements. These clowns cant even look after themselve what about a rhino. Criminals will bribe these highly trained clowns and the speed of which these animals are poached will increase rapidly.

  • Nigel - 2012-03-16 15:33

    No use them to hunt the ANCYL, LOL

  • lew.james1 - 2012-03-16 15:38

    Then there were on Rhino's - you have got to be joking wanting to use those gooks.

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-03-16 15:39

    what about former APLA operatives ?

      Bloodstone - 2012-03-16 15:51

      No need for sarcasm Mgayi!

      Ze Don - 2012-03-16 15:57

      @Bloodstone: Classic... ROFL!

      Franklyn - 2012-03-26 11:00

      That was pretty damn funny..LMAO

  • John - 2012-03-16 15:51

    This clown can't be serious. Has he any idea what these MK Operatives are capable of .... waaaahahahahaha

  • John - 2012-03-16 15:56

    Just put a meaningful bounty on each poachers head as well as a penalty, deducted from the bounty, in each of the area being monitored when rhino is killed.

      Bloodstone - 2012-03-16 15:59

      Good one let's give the cadres a couple of days to try and figure out what you have just said.

  • Aubrey - 2012-03-16 16:04

    This mans gotta be kidding within a month or two, no wildlife will be left. Maybe he could enlighten use what training they underwent. Two weeks learning the art of using a kattie, and a week throwing a knob kerry. God forbid.

  • Mike - 2012-03-16 16:14

    Stopping rhino poaching will require a multi-pronged solution: 1) Downgrade rhinos from Cites 2 to Cites 3 status, thus enabling controlled sale of rhino horn. 2) Sell the stockpile of horn in official warehouses, thus helping reduce the prices being obtained by illegal sales. 3) Use the money obtained to fund additional anti poaching measures. 4) change the laws so that convicted poachers are given harsher sentences. 5) ensure that suspects are not given bail.etc etc Add your considered ideas to this list.

      Jonathan - 2012-03-16 21:15

      When you get to "shoot the poachers" let me know.

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  • Hugh - 2012-03-16 16:35

    Please, MK Vets highly trained? In what? they have only learned how to plant bombs in shopping centres shoot up the local pub, or church, and when confronted with a single civilian with a revolver, fled like the cowards they are. Grand standing.

  • Ringeta - 2012-03-16 16:45

    MK Vetarans are good guys and they are discliplene. They listened when Mandela told them to put arms down. Please you racists commenters respect these people, We do not want commandos. VIVA MEC. Employs them to do the job. Viva MK.

      Bloodstone - 2012-03-16 16:56

      uhm...I really don't know how to reply to your comment and I don't want to embarrass you, but keep up the good work Ringeta (and practice, practice, practice...)

      Aubrey - 2012-03-16 17:18

      Respect murderers you must have your head red.

  • david.lebethe - 2012-03-16 16:55's a reflection of mental bankcruptcy on the part of the anc government. Imagine Cappy Mphatsoe running after a young and fit poacher or rhino, for that matter?!

  • Mart - 2012-03-16 16:58

    This idea has merit. I would like them however to be deployed externally to hunt down the Mozambican and Zimbabwean poaching hitmen as well as make their presence felt on the doorstep of the end users in the east. If not to perform COIN ops then at least information gathering worldwide may be the route to go.

  • Clive - 2012-03-16 17:15

    Is it April 1st? This guy has to be kidding. Using MK "cadres" would only hasten the end of the rhino.

  • ProfAndyZulu - 2012-03-16 17:25

    At least something more concrete is being proposed... This is not a bad idea! Apart from the obvious pitfalls (a. they become prey to corruption and increase the problem, b. they just sit in the sun doing nothing, ...) we are going to lose our Rhino in very short order if we do not take action. All the naysayers, say something constructive before pooh-poohing a more positive approach.

  • Mosa Sasa Pakade - 2012-03-16 18:21

    Thats a good suggestion, MK gloriously fought SADF

      Aubrey - 2012-03-16 18:25

      @mosa Give us a few examples.

      Frederick Erasmus - 2012-03-16 19:07

      I worked with them after 1994 and let me inform u\r\n1.1 out of every 2 were HIV pos\r\n2. Paydays more then 3/4 were drunk and remain in that stage like that untill they had no money left\r\n3.No dissiplene at all\r\n4.LAZY\r\n5 could pass any mill subjects (dum and stuped)\r\n6.Could never pass shooting excercises.\r\n7.During deplouments rape the local villagers\r\n8.Taken bribes from illegal immigrants\r\n\r\nAnd so we can go on and on

      Bloodstone - 2012-03-16 21:18

      C'mon Mosa, how old are you? You live in a dream world - the facts are all against you. Where and when did they actually engaged the SADF in a fire fight? And your answer will be...waiting in anticipation comrade Pakade.

      Jonathan - 2012-03-17 07:17

      Hey Comrade Mosa - when, where, how? Wake up sunshine, you are dreaming!!

      Mark - 2012-03-17 08:29

      In your dreams

  • Mark - 2012-03-17 07:34

    Yup, can just picture that bunch running around in the bush, with AK's, looking for poachers, or something to eat, in full view of tourists who they would then beg money from, or hijack. Oh yes, this sound like a wonderful plan. Perhaps they should put JuJu in charge and offer the public an incentive of some kind.........

      Kevin - 2012-03-17 10:01

      They would immediately become the poachers to inflate their wages, I think that most of the poaching is already done by MK already with full support of the ANC leadership. We already hear enough of the Rhino what about the White ou!

  • james.kukard - 2012-03-19 08:25

    There are only a few mk soldiers available seeing most of them are already used in transito heists and farmer killings

  • Jonathan - 2012-03-19 08:35

    I have been saying for years that the old Commando system would have been the perfect answer to stop the Rhino poaching. The only problem is that it would mean that the cANCer Government must provide guns and equipment to highly trained former white SADF members and that would create sleepless nights for them. They have slowly but surly de-armed the white population in many ways and this would be a reversal of their policy.

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